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Title: Minnesota mom who gave cannabis oil to son will not face trial - drug warriors furious
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St. Paul Pioneer Press
URL Source: http://www.twincities.com/localnews ... a-brown-madison-has-signed-off
Published: Apr 17, 2015
Author: Tom Cherveny
Post Date: 2015-04-20 21:21:27 by Deckard
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Views: 39047
Comments: 118
Angela Brown of Madison, Minn., has signed off on an agreement that will lead to the dismissal of a child endangerment charge against her for giving her 15-year-old son cannabis oil to treat his seizures and pain from a traumatic brain injury. Brown said her attorney, Michael Hughes of Bend, Ore., informed her a week ago that he and Lac qui Parle County Attorney Rick Stulz worked out an agreement that will allow for a "continuance for dismissal'' of the child endangerment charge. If she pays a $100 court fee and has no violations for 90 days, the gross misdemeanor charge will be dropped. Brown said she signed the agreement Thursday and expected it to be entered in court by the Lac qui Parle County attorney. Brown had been set to stand trial on the charge Wednesday. "I was shell-shocked and actually upset; he's getting exactly what he wants,'' said Brown of her initial reaction when asked by her attorney if she would OK the agreement. Brown learned of the agreement while in the Twin Cities on April 10 for the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Film Festival and the debut showing of "Pot (The Movie),'' which documents the fight for medical marijuana, and in which she appears. By approving the agreement, Brown said she spares her son Trey the trauma of having to testify in the trial. The prosecution intended to subpoena Trey, according to Brown. She said it would have been traumatic for her son to have to testify. She said her attorney filed statements from her son's medical provider warning of the harm it could cause him. Brown was charged in June with child endangerment after surrendering a small amount of cannabis oil to law enforcement. The family had traveled to Colorado to obtain the oil to treat Trey. He suffered the traumatic brain injury when he was struck by a baseball at age 11. Brown and her husband, David, believe their son would be eligible to receive the cannabis oil when use of medical cannabis for some medical conditions becomes legal in Minnesota on July 1. The legal fight has been a financial blow to the family, and the ordeal very stressful for the parents and their three children, Brown said. They have been fearful that she would be taken away and put in prison. She and her husband have a gofundme.com fundraising site to accept funds for their medical and other costs, and now the costs to move to a new home. Brown said they have decided to move to Colorado where David has accepted a position with his former employer, the Corrections Corporation of America. The ordeal has put Angela Brown into the limelight as a spokeswoman for those calling for laws to allow for the use of medical cannabis. While it has been difficult for her family, she believes the ordeal has served some good in that she has been able to call attention to the issue. She remains committed to it. "I'm going to continue to fight. It's not done,'' she said. 
Angela Brown, left, visits with supporters, including Patrick McClellan, outside the Chippewa County Courthouse in Montevideo, Minn., in September. McClellan, of Minnesotans for Compassionate Care, testified at the Legislature for the bill that will allow the use of medical cannabis. He made the trip from Bloomington to show support for Brown. Forum News Service: Tom Cherveny
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#11. To: Deckard (#7)
Her son's doctor said it could harm him. Is the doctor delusional also?
This was that Charlotte's blend, the one made from hemp that doesn't get the user high. It is what is used to treat epilepsy and brain injury patients. Even lardass Christie, dead-set on continuing the full War On Drugs, signed a bill to allow it. If you can't get high from it, it isn't recreational and, given the cost, will only be taken for medical reasons. Almost every state is moving to decriminalize that particular medical strain, generally as soon as there is a patient that needs it in their state, usually children having multiple major seizures per hour. The pols don't want to be seen denying medicine to a child who is suffering so badly. So this is not recreational weed. That changes the discussion considerably.
Those are my only choices, huh? Either he uses cannabis oil or he suffers.
How costly is it?
To be clear, this is about cannabis oil. Plus, Minnesota only approved cannabis oil for certain patients. So yes, I realize that were not talking about smoking dope to get high. There is a strain out there called "Charlotte’s Web" which is high in CBD. Then again, so is Sativex and Epidiolex, but those drugs are from the eeevil pharmaceuticals. And we all know that it's much better for patients when they are taking an unknown amount of unpurified medicine.
I understand. But nowhere in the article did it say that it helped this patient, only that cannabis oil was given to him (over his doctor's objections).
Last I heard, around $300 a month for most medical users and nearly all of them are kids with a particular and really severe type of epilepsy. Only certain growers in Colorado have a good reputation for producing the right Charlotte blend. This Charlotte blend is also different from the kind used by the glaucoma and cancer patients. They use the recreational weed. They still call it medical marijuana but it is also recreational.
As with early versions of pharaceutical THC, they just aren't as effective. I notice the parents of these kids don't seem like the hippie types. They just want the most effective medicine to stop the seizures. They think their kids have suffered enough. Maybe you should stop carrying water for Big Pharma and consider the suffering of these kids instead. Let their parents make the choice for their treatment.
Why should I be furious? That Angela Brown “self-medicates” her son with a marijuana strain rich in cannabidiol (CBD) that “can increase the risk of serious psychiatric disorders and long-term cognitive problems” is her personal problem and one her conscious has to deal with under the laws in her state. If she feels she is capable of prescribing medication for her son, then she probably also feels she can handle any “harmful effects from these CBD-rich marijuana extracts” that takes hold on her son. It is up to her to totally disregard the messages from the “scientists and physicians who have been quick to warn of the dangers of the marijuana extract because CBD use in people with epilepsy has yet to be clinically evaluated.” If she wants to say “screw you” to the “FDA for having classified the cannabidiol” she is giving her son as “a Schedule 1 drug, the strictest level of regulation for a controlled substance”….then she can say, “screw you FDA.” Why should I be furious? The first-of-a-kind drug being developed from marijuana plants specifically to treat early childhood epilepsy is epidiolex….derived from cannabidiol. The FDA approved a series of clinical trials to test Epidiolex’s efficacy to treat epilepsy. “The research revealed that more than 50 percent of the 137 epileptic children and young adults continually treated with Epidiolex over a period of three months saw a reduction in their seizures.” Furthermore, there is no evidence presented anywhere that cannabidiol cures the causes of seizures, prevents reoccurrence of seizures, or alleviates all pain and suffering resulting from seizures. Tell me, “Doctor Hondo”….how you know her son is “not suffering.”
Uh - no she's not. As has been already explained, this is cannabis oil, specifically created to eliminate the psychoactive effects. I guess they didn't cover that in "Reefer Madness" did they?
The evidence is overwhelming that CBDs dramatically reduce the number and intensity of the seizures, in some cases preventing them altogether. What gives you or the government the right to to decide how parents decide to treat their own children? Marijuana stops child's severe seizures Epilepsy Foundation Calls for Increased Medical Marijuana Access and Research
You say that "cannibis oil" is NOT a "Schedule 1" drug? I'm sorry, I must have missed that in “Reefer Madness.” So, will you provide your source that shows Administrative Controlled Substances Code Number 7360 (a number assigned to cannabis and listed on the schedules created by the Controlled Substances Act as defined in 21 CFR § 1308.03) in NOT a “Schedule 1” drug? Thank you in advance for this enlightening information.
CBD use in people with epilepsy has yet to be clinically evaluated They don't want your ObamaCare prescription! How much stock do you own in this ObamaCare Epidiolex? It's an herb that's been under evaluation for thousands of years. Big Pharma and the FDA ignore the research because they don't hold a patent on this natural God given product.
According to ... who? The users of smoked marijuana or cannabis oil? Sorry, but I question their objectivity. "They just want the most effective medicine to stop the seizures." I read their demands as legalization of the drug, not simply obtaining it for their children. Big difference. "Maybe you should stop carrying water for Big Pharma ..." I'm saying we should treat marijuana as medicine the same way we treat any other drug. Why are we making an exception for marijuana? Marijuana cures nothing. And any symptom it relieves can be duplicated by at least 10 other drugs already FDA approved. "Medical" marijuana is a scam . It's a backdoor approach to legalizing recreational marijuana, which we see happening now. Minnesota only approved cannabis oil. Let's see how many people sign up. Wanna bet it will only be a fraction of the people who signed up for smoked marijuana in other states? Maybe because the people are healthier in Minnesota.
Does that mean they can't make money off it? Or, does that mean they lose money because of it?
Excellent post.
Interesting theory. Gatslime does like to brag about his stock portfolio. It wouldn't surprise me if that's one of the companies he is invested in. He'll never get it - his mantra is : "Big Government/Big Pharma" GOOD, Parents deciding how to best treat their children - BAD.
Sorry, sport, but you cannot take cases where there is a small number of anecdotes presented and call them “overwhelming.” You don’t get to cherry-pick what you call typical cases that have a large chance of being unreliable based on emotional testimony. You must learn that anecdotal evidence is considered dubious support of a generalized claim. I’m sure this is something Alex neglected to teach you. This is understandable….since when did you two bother with facts?
Or, does that mean they lose money because of it? Yes because God invented weeds, and it's becoming a free market with lots of competition. They lose sales of their synthetic proprietary product. They're lucky to break even on the money they spent developing the fake hash oil that Gatlin's pushing.
Then there is the case where the 1-year-old infant girl died when her family attempted a home remedy for head lice. They slathered mayonnaise on her hair and scalp and then placed a plastic shopping bag over her head. Several hours passed during which the girl was left unattended. When the family discovered she was not breathing, they called the police. There are other cases of the same nature with the same horrific results
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover ~ Mark 16:18 King James 2000 Bible Your ignorance knows know bounds. Typical ploy of the semi-literate, take two completely unrelated subjects and pretend they are the same.
Parents deciding how to best treat their children - BAD. I say, you betcha….far too many times!!! Thanks for continuing to admit that you view the almighty Sate as god. Bet you're thrilled about this as well. State Lets Police Take Teenagers Away From Parents If They Are Left Home Alone
What's the CBD content of that blend? Any other cannabinoids in that blend? What about dosage and frequency of use? Any drug interactions? What about drug side effects? Are there any contaminants in that oil? Nobody know the answers to those questions. Yet I'm considered a bad parent if I DON'T allow my child to ingest this substance? No one cares if my kid lives or dies except me. The people who are pushing for the legalization of these "medicines" are uncaring, ignorant fools, using the sick and dying to push their hidden agenda of legal recreational marijuana. “We are trying to get marijuana reclassified medically. If we do that, we’ll be using the issue as a red herring to give marijuana a good name.”
LOL !
Si vis pacem, para bellum
The main side effects is that he feels much better and doctors/pharma has lost some profit. Very evil!
The main and only purpose of the government is to secure profits for the corporations and and the rich.
Right back at you with that. You sarcastically stated: I documented cases where patents deciding to best treat their children were definitely "BAD" ... in fact they killed them. Now respond without your poor attempt at DEFLECTION!
I say, you betcha….far too many times!!! Thanks for continuing to admit that you view the almighty Sate (sic) as god. Thanks for admitting that you will not acknowledge that some "parents deciding how best to treat their children is BAD" ... and in fact KILLS them. That you cannot address the issue and must simply copy and paste an unrelated article is pathetic.
How about just one case where the government acted (supposedly) in the "best interests" of children. Mt. Carmel, Waco Texas. Do you find about 165 kids in ERs every day because of the ignorance of their parents something to also “LOL” about? I sincerely hope not. Furthermore, do you believe parents should give their child drugs of their personal choice that have not been approved by the FDA for quality and purity … and that the parent should arbitrarily decide on the strength dosage and frequency of application? I am sincerely interested in your answer.
You CANNOT properly address the point....you can only continue to copy and paste for DEFLECTION. That's pathetic...
I did address the point, Reno apologist.
Like Hell you did, Alex's Ass Kisser.
I was only laughing about the quote: "Gatlin, furious drug warrior, hall monitor, narc " Nothing more, nothing less.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Don't try and pretend that you have any concern for children
Stop assuming you know the proper medication for seizures.
What the facts here show is that CBD's reduce the intensity, duration and number of seizures. You drug warriors are pathetic.
Stop assuming you know the proper medication for seizures. --- Gatlin We'll have to leave that pretension to 'Major' gatlin...
"Major" Gatty is the only one who believes that lie.
Parents May Overestimate Marijuana's Effects on Kids' Seizures by Laura Geggel, Staff Writer | December 08, 2014 03:42pm ET In a recent trend, parents of children with some forms of epilepsy are giving marijuana to their children in hopes of alleviating the seizures, but researchers say cannabis is not a proven treatment for childhood epilepsy, and people should wait for rigorous studies to decide whether the drug is safe or effective. In fact, parents with high expectations may overestimate the effects of marijuana on children with epilepsy, said the researchers, who presented their data today (Dec. 8) at the meeting of the American Epilepsy Society in Seattle. In one study, the researchers surveyed parents in Colorado whose children had epilepsy and were treated with marijuana. Parents who had moved to the state because it is legal there to use pot recreationally were three times more likely to report that cannabis helped their children, compared with families who already lived in the state. [11 Surprising Facts About Placebos] I can imagine these poor families, who are just desperate for anything to work," said the study's senior researcher, Dr. Kevin Chapman, an associate professor of neurology at the University of Colorado. However, it's concerning that the researchers found "that the biggest predictor of whether you respond was whether you actually moved from out of state." Cannabis contains a number of chemicals that are thought to exert effects on the body and mind, said Dr. Shaun Hussain, the director of the University of California, Los Angeles Infantile Spasms Program. The two big players are the compounds tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabidiol (CBD). THC is associated with the high that comes with taking cannabis, and has also been shown to reduce nausea and increase hunger, Hussain said. "It has traditionally been thought that CBD didn't do a whole lot, but attention has focused on CBD as the chemical that may reduce seizures," Hussain said. But research has yet to determine CBD's usefulness. "From a physician standpoint, it's kind of daunting because we don't know anything about it," Chapman said. "We don't know about side effects, we don't know about drug interactions, we don't know whether it works or not." Parent surveys Some evidence is beginning to come in from surveys of families who have given the drug to their children. In one study, Chapman and his colleagues looked at 58 children, average age of 7, who received marijuana for their epilepsy. The parents of 18 of the 58 children reported that the number of seizures their kids suffered was reduced by half while they were taking the drug — suggesting that about 30 percent of the kids benefited. In addition, 29 percent reported their children showed improved alertness and improved behavior. But the researchers had brain wave readings called electroencephalograms (EEGs) for 16 of the 58 kids in the study that were taken before and during treatment with marijuana. They found that just two kids showed signs of improvement, the researchers said. This translates to 12.5 percent of these kids seeing a benefit. And meanwhile, negative side effects occurred in 47 percent of all the children in the study, with 21 percent of them having more seizures than before, 14 percent having sleepiness or fatigue, and 10 percent having more severe effects, including one child who needed intubation to help breathing, and another who died, although the researchers felt the death was unrelated to the cannabis. One potential problem with the study is that some doctors took children off other medications they were taking when the children started taking cannabis extracts, which may have altered the chemistry within their bodies, Chapman noted. Also, cannabis may affect the concentration levels of other drugs the children are taking, which can also change how they respond to their epilepsy, the doctors said. Marijuana from dispensaries may also have varying concentrations of its chemicals, and parents may be unsure of what dose to give their children, the researchers added. [11 Odd Facts About Marijuana] The findings highlight the need for controlled studies, Chapman said. "By doing more placebo-controlled trials, I think we're going to get a better feel for whether it's beneficial for epilepsy," he said. Another parent survey, by Hussain and his colleagues, also found the need for rigorous trials. That survey was given online to 53 parents of children who have infantile spasms or Lennox-Gastaut syndrome, who had taken marijuana extracts containing CBD. The researchers found that 92 percent of parents said their children had fewer seizures after taking CBD, and 13 percent said their child was seizure-free. The kids had tried eight medications, on average, and had not been helped. The parents also said the drug helped their children sleep, and increased alertness and mood. But these results should be taken with a grain of salt, Hussain said. "This is generally a pretty desperate group of patients and parents, and I think they are highly invested in the belief and the hope that these cannabis extracts are truly effective," he said. Several clinical trials on cannabis' effects on childhood epilepsy are slated to begin in early 2015, Hussain said. Doose Syndrome The third study is a case report of a family who began giving CBD to their 4-year-old boy with Doose Syndrome, a type of epilepsy that causes classic shaking as well as jerking muscles during seizures. The boy had at least 10 seizures a day, said Dr. Jeffrey Gold, an assistant professor of neuroscience at the University of California, San Diego, and a neurologist at Rady Children's Hospital-San Diego. When the boy started CBD, his seizures initially got worse. But it turned out the CBD was increasing the child's blood levels of valproic acid, another anti-seizure medication he was taking. Doctors immediately reduced the child's valproic acid medication, and he continued to take CBD. Within four months, the boy's seizures disappeared, which was confirmed with EEGs. "We don't know why that happened," Gold said. "Maybe it was the valproic acid. Maybe it was the cannabinoid." Doctors still can't recommend CBD as a treatment for children with epilepsy, but Gold encouraged families to be upfront with their doctors if they choose that route. The drug may interfere with the child's other medications, and informed doctors can monitor the child's response, he said. Future work will help doctors determine whether cannabis is a useful drug, experts said. "We lack safety data in children, and there should be carefully done safety and efficacy studies on any drug given to children," said Dr. Orrin Devinsky, the director of the New York University Epilepsy Center, who was not involved with any of the studies. "We desperately need this data." He continued, "There is a naturalistic fallacy in which people believe that natural things are safe. There are many poisons in plants as well as animals. Some are very natural and very lethal. These studies are a call for more carefully designed studies. http://www.livescience.com/49048-cannabis-marijuana-epilepsy.html.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest"You really are delusional."
#12. To: misterwhite, Deckard (#6)
Where did you read he was no longer suffering? Where did you read this snake oil actually worked?
#13. To: Deckard (#7)
"My guess is that if you did, you would rather let them suffer rather than use an "unapproved" medicine."
#14. To: TooConservative (#12)
If you can't get high from it, it isn't recreational and, given the cost, will only be taken for medical reasons.
#15. To: TooConservative (#12)
"So this is not recreational weed."
#16. To: TooConservative (#12)
"It is what is used to treat epilepsy and brain injury patients."
#17. To: Fred Mertz (#14)
How costly is it?
#18. To: misterwhite (#15)
So yes, I realize that were not talking about smoking dope to get high. There is a strain out there called "Charlotte’s Web" which is high in CBD. Then again, so is Sativex and Epidiolex, but those drugs are from the eeevil pharmaceuticals.
#19. To: Hondo68, misterwhite, Deckard, Promoters of Fraudulent or Ignorant Medical Practices (#2)
You're furious that the kid is getting medicine…?
… and not suffering?
“Research suggests medical marijuana could reduce seizures in children”….nowhere has any evidence whatsoever been presented that cannabidiol “prevents” seizures in children.
#20. To: Gatlin (#19)
she is giving her son as “a Schedule 1 drug, the strictest level of regulation for a controlled substance”
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#21. To: Gatlin, Hondo68, misterwhite, TooConservative (#19)
“Research suggests medical marijuana could reduce seizures in children”….nowhere has any evidence whatsoever been presented that cannabidiol “prevents” seizures in children.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#22. To: Deckard (#20)
She is giving her son as “a Schedule 1 drug, the strictest level of regulation for a controlled substance”
Uh - no she's not.
As has been already explained, this is cannabis oil…
I guess they didn't cover that in "Reefer Madness" did they?
#23. To: Gatlin, drug pusher, ObongoCare, Epidiolex (#19)
Epidiolex
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#24. To: TooConservative (#18)
"As with early versions of pharaceutical THC, they just aren't as effective."
#25. To: hondo68 (#23)
Big Pharma and the FDA ignore the research because they don't hold a patent on this natural God given product.
#26. To: Gatlin (#19)
#27. To: hondo68 (#23)
They don't want your ObamaCare prescription! How much stock do you own in this ObamaCare Epidiolex?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#28. To: Deckard (#21)
(Edited)
The evidence is overwhelming …
#29. To: Fred Mertz, Gatlin hash oil (#25)
(Edited)
Does that mean they can't make money off it?
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#30. To: hondo68, Snake Oil Merchant (#23)
It's an herb that's been under evaluation for thousands of years. Big Pharma and the FDA ignore the research because they don't hold a patent on this natural God given product.
Here is a method of healing that has been around for just long. They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover ~ Mark 16:18 King James 2000 Bible
I don’t see too many people grabbing hold of a diamondback and laying hands on someone to heal. Oh yea, I know there‘s a Pentecostal Church in Kentucky where they do this. But wait! Jamie Coots, the “snake handling" pastor died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a weekend church service. Oh well, so much for that healing method. We are still waiting to see the long term results of CBD….aren’t we?
#31. To: Deckard, hondo68. The Dynamic Duo Medical Whiz Kids (#27)
He'll never get it - his mantra is :
Speaking about “parents deciding how to best treat their children” …
"Big Government/Big Pharma" GOOD,
Parents deciding how to best treat their children - BAD. There is the case where two young children died after their parents refused to treat them with medicine. They believed only in faith-healing. After the second child dies, Philadelphia Judge Benjamin Lerner told the couple: “You’ve killed two of your children…not God, not your church, not religious devotion — you.” He then sentenced Herbert and Catherine Schaible to between three and a half and seven years behind bars. At the time of the second death, the couple were on a 10-year probation for the death of their first child. About a dozen U.S. children die each year when parents turn to faith healing instead of medicine,
So you say … with tongue in cheek: Parents deciding how to best treat their children - BAD.
I say, you betcha….far too many times!!! And I ask you: “Who never gets it?”
#32. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#30)
Here is a method of healing that has been around for just long.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#33. To: Gatlin, hondo68, misterwhite (#31)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#34. To: TooConservative (#17)
"Only certain growers in Colorado have a good reputation for producing the right Charlotte blend."
-- Keith Stroup (founder of NORML), Emory University, February 6, 1979
#35. To: hondo68 (#2)
" Gatlin, furious drug warrior, hall monitor, narc "
#36. To: Fred Mertz (#3)
I wonder if he has the munchies as a side effect
#37. To: Fred Mertz (#25)
Does that mean they can't make money off it? Or, does that mean they lose money because of it?
#38. To: Deckard, hondo68 (#32)
Typical ploy of the semi-literate,
"Parents deciding how to best treat their children - BAD."
#39. To: Deckard, hondo68, misterwhite (#33)
Parents deciding how to best treat their children - BAD.
#40. To: Gatlin (#38)
I documented cases where patents deciding to best treat their children were definitely "BAD" ... in fact they killed them.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#41. To: Stoner, honda68 (#35)
" Gatlin, furious drug warrior, hall monitor, narc "
This thread is about a mother who “self-medicates” her son with a drug untested and not approved by the FDA….against the advice of her doctor.
LOL !
Stoner posted on 2015-04-21 It’s a stunning fact that 4 busloads of kids (around 165 young children) are seen in hospital ERs after getting medications….while each case is preventable.
#42. To: Deckard (#40)
#43. To: Gatlin (#42)
You CANNOT properly address the point
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#44. To: Deckard (#43)
#45. To: Gatlin (#41)
#46. To: Gatlin (#44)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#47. To: Deckard (#46)
#48. To: Gatlin (#47)
Stop assuming you know the proper medication for seizures.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#49. To: Deckard (#46)
---- Don't try and pretend that you have any concern for children
#50. To: tpaine (#49)
We'll have to leave that pretension to 'Major' gatlin...
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#51. To: Deckard, hondo68, Fred Mertz, misterwhite, TooConservative (#50)
Brown said they have decided to move to Colorado ...
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