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Title: Eagles signing Tebow on Monday
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Published: Apr 19, 2015
Author: NBC Sports
Post Date: 2015-04-19 19:27:00 by A K A Stone
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He’s back. After a two-season exile, the man who took the Broncos to the divisional round in 2011 before being summarily dumped for Peyton Manning will have a new job in the NFL. Per Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, Tim Tebow will sign with the Eagles on Monday. (Yes, Glazer has the scoop, even though Tebow works for ESPN.) Traded to the Jets in March 2012, Tebow had a single, disastrous season in New York. Cut by the Jets, the Patriots gave him a look in the 2013 offseason, training camp, and preseason. Tebow didn’t make the 53-man roster, and he hasn’t been heard from again. The Eagles gave Tebow a workout on March 16, and they reportedly would be inclined to sign him only if Matt Barkley were traded. Barkley hasn’t been traded, and the connection never made sense; with 90 roster spots in the offseason and plenty of quarterbacks needed to distribute the ball during practice sessions. Tebow arrives with the opening of the offseason program in Philadelphia, rejoining Mark Sanchez and a depth chart that also includes Sam Bradford, Barkley, and G.J. Kinne. With Bradford still rehabbing a torn ACL suffered last August, Tebow becomes as a practical matter the fourth quarterback who is able to participate in practice session that will begin after a two-week lifting/conditioning period.
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I'd love to see Tebow back in action again. He deserves it. How is a QB (with NO seasoning) who led his team into the playoffs, and QB'd his team to a AFC Championship game by ANY measure considered a "failure"?? ANSWER: the know-it-all know-nuthins, anti-Christians and atheist whiners deemed it so.
Yeah - I like the way they set up the story too.Traded to the Jets in March 2012, Tebow had a single, disastrous season in New York. The Jets had a "disastrous" season (6-10 )- Tebow didn't. In fact it is my contention that if they HAD played Tebow, it's likely they would have made it too the playoffs.
It should be interesting to see how he can play if he is better matched to a team and they tamp down most of the Virgin Quarterback coverage which was pretty silly stuff. Seems odd that Michael Vick and Hernandez and other NFL animals are fine to play but Tebow was singled out as just plain unacceptable to liberal sports media. They hated him for no good reason.
The Jets had a "disastrous" season (6-10 )- Tebow didn't. Ha! Yeah. Can't blame Tebow for their disaster. So d*mn disingenuous and intellectually dishonest a critique. We know what they did -- they purposely buried and blackballed him. In fact it is my contention that if they HAD played Tebow, it's likely they would have made it too the playoffs. We'll never know...(that's the way they wanted it) but he sure would have been better than Sanchez.
It could be that Tebow just doesn't have the pro moxie to play at the top level of the NFL. Like the Michael Sams didn't have the chops to play pro ball. We'd never have even heard of either one except that one was the Virgin Quarterback and the other one was the First Openly Gay Football Player. In other words, the most attention they got as players had nothing to do with their professional sport. People get emotionally invested in these sideshow issues because of all the media coverage, most of it intended to get fans to react viscerally rather than rationally.
I followed Tebow closely when he was in Denver. He is a great athlete but definitely not a NFL quarterback. He probably could have made it in the NFL at another position (e.g. - receiver) had he had the background.
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Tebow has mostly "signed with the Eagles" as a practice dummy. He's #4 out of 4 quarterbacks for the Eagles. The Eagles are looking for a fourth quarterback for their offseason program. After spending time with Tebow's quarterbacks coach Tom House, the Eagles are convinced he's improved a lot, Glazer reports. Tebow, who hasn't played in an NFL regular season game since 2012, was brought in for a workout for the Eagles last month. "I've always been a fan of Tim," Kelly told NFL Network last month. "We bring in a lot of players for private workouts, it's just he's the one that everyone keeps talking about. We brought in Terrelle Pryor for a workout and Thad Lewis in for a workout. When players are available for you to work them out, it's the same thing of going to the veteran combine or going to the super regional combine. "It's getting an exposure to a player so that when you have to make a decision and say, 'Hey, what are we going to do now?' you say, 'I don't know anything about these players. Let's bring them in and work them out,' and it may be too late at that point in time. So all we're doing is just doing our homework." The Eagles traded for quarterback Sam Bradford earlier this offseason and signed Mark Sanchez to an extension. Matt Barkley currently sits third on the depth chart. Tebow hasn't played in the NFL since he was with the New York Jets in 2012. He was released by the New England Patriots before the 2013 season and spent last year working in television as an analyst for the SEC Network and ESPN. It's a little premature to get lathered up over the Second Coming Of Tim Tebow.
I'd also followed Tebow's QBing exploits closely, and watched NFL football for a good 50 years. NEWSFLASH: Tim Tebow IS a Quarterback. That's the position he's excelled at. True, he wasn't nearly the prototypical QB. But he IS an "NFL QB." You don't go 8-3 if you're not an "NFL QB. It's impossible. OR win several games during Crunch Time through sheer will. What kind of "expert" dismisses ANY quarterback who wins 8 out of his first 11 games, including a playoff game? Moreover, people somehow forget that Tebow was a rookie with virtually NO seasoning. He doesn't QB a single game for the Jets, yet the media proclaims HIM a "disaster"?? On what planet is that the case...when you don't even play?? Tebow has some obvious mechanical problems, as well as problems reading defenses. Again, typical. He's made strides to improve his mechanics; *Only* experience will help any QB read defenses. For SOME reason, teams don't want to give this guy a chance to become the winning QB and leader he is (*cough media*) And THAT reason is Tebow's open Christian faith (somehow deemed "polarizing" by the heathen media) worn on his sleeve. So now the situation is such that what we have is the Liberal Media not only deciding which laws are enforced and changed (*cough Indiana*)...as well as which players are quarterback.
.....that and he was the first college sophomore to win the Heisman trophy. He was also the MVP of a national championship team. He held the Southeastern Conference's all-time records in both career passing efficiency and total rushing touchdowns . As has already been mentioned ,he went on to lead the Broncos to the playoffs in his rookie season after the team had gone 1-4 before he became the started . I'm not saying he'll ever be a great NFL QB . But the system that the Eagles run looks tailor made for Tebow's style of play .
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
It's a little premature to get lathered up over the Second Coming Of Tim Tebow. Ok, cute reference ("Second Coming" -- HA, we get it.) Coach Kelley and his coaching staff have obvious liked what they've seen and heard from Tebow. They do realize he's a winner and brings a different dimension. With the way QBs get hurt and under-perform, Tebow is a valuable asset. Kelley runs a QB "system," so it's possible Tebow's set of skills will work much like a "special ops" for situations. Can Tebow win a #1 QB job? Why not?
As has already been mentioned ,he went on to lead the Broncos to the playoffs in his rookie season after the team had gone 1-4 before he became the started . I'm not saying he'll ever be a great NFL QB . But the system that the Eagles run looks tailor made for Tebow's style of play . Worth repeating. The Eagles are a team who runs a system. You can be sure it'll take advantage of Tebow's skill set. Btw, how many QBs are used to winning close games? THAT is on Tebow's NFL resume.
HUH?? "Moxie"?? Are you sure you understand the definition of that word? Tebow has it to the nines. He's *already* "played at the top level of the NFL." Where you been?? Like the Michael Sams didn't have the chops to play pro ball. Seriously -- do you watch football much? Sams ballyhooed college sacks were accomplished vs. bad teams. Totally overrated and chosen co-Defensive Player of the Year in his conference ...BECAUSE he was gay. He stinks. LBs are a dime a dozen. We'd never have even heard of either one except that one was the Virgin Quarterback and the other one was the First Openly Gay Football Player. In other words, the most attention they got as players had nothing to do with their professional sport. Now I know you're clueless on this subject.
Dream on. His passing stats tell it all. His career QB rating is a pathetic. You can't be a NFL quarter to begin with, and certainly not for long, on just you running ability. He's a terribly inconsistent passer. His mechanics will never make the grade. This is my last word on this subject. You may have the final words. Hopefully you would like to bet on him if he gets the job?
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He was born in the Philippines? Interesting factoid.
Eagles signing Tebow on Monday Young Mr. Tebow is really not an NFL quarterback. IMHO by this time next year, he will be coaching under Urban Meyer at The Ohio State University.
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
You know what they say about stats, right? In his case, they "tell" the story of a winner. Regular season record: 8-6. Post season: 1-1. Won several games in final drives AGAINST NFL defenses. You say stats? 17 TD passes, 9 INTs. His 2011 season was one most rookies (which practically NO seasoning) can only dream about. You can't be a NFL quarter to begin with, and certainly not for long, on just you running ability. He's a terribly inconsistent passer. His mechanics will never make the grade. Firstly, he's ALREADY proven his style is a winner. FOR HIM. And his teams. Secondly, yes, he's an inconsistent passer -- as are most rookie QBs. Bradshaw stunk it up for his first few years. Many other QB have stunk as well....BUT *they* were given a chance to improve and watch. And yes, improve his mechanics. Why not wait on Tebow?? (we know the reason: POLITICS.) Hopefully you would like to bet on him if he gets the job? Bet on what? That he'll be a winner?? You bet. He's never failed. The man possesses a proven, extraordinary will and leadership quality.
Funny then how the Denver Broncos not only won their division with "no NFL QB" at the helm, but beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in a playoff game. WITH "No NFL Quarterback." In fact, "No NFL Quarterback" threw 3 TD passes in that game. (check that -- 2 TD passes.)
Yeah....I notice Mr. Tebow no longer works for the Broncos. I like Tim Tebow. He's a great athlete and from what I've heard a really good guy. I saw a clip of him hitting a golf ball 340+ yards. He's awesome. He's also not an NFL QB. He'll be a great coach, I look forward to his arrival in Columbus.
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
Replaced by some unknown, unproven journeyman QB....Peyton Manning. Heard of the guy? I saw a clip of him hitting a golf ball 340+ yards. He's awesome. Yeah, saw it. Tebow could also be a pro-golfer if he wanted to. That said, his passion remains QBing an NFL team. He's also not an NFL QB. You're not understanding this fallacy; He already IS. But he's been blackballed. How many young winning QBs in the history of the NFL have ever suddenly NOT found ANY team interested in them? With the number of crummy QBs out there?? Never say never as it concerns Tebow. One of the greatest things I have ever witnessed in sports was watching so-called "expert" pundits from ESPN and elsewhere glumly eat their words EVERY week as Tim Tebow pulled off SIX last minute 4th quarter victories during his last year as an NFL quarterback. Not even the great Peyton Manning has ever done that. If fact, I challenge any of you to find a QB in the last 50 years who HAS done what Tebow's had done. SIX 4th quarter comebacks in the final minutes is NO fluke. It's the will of a tremendous leader. AND QUARTERBACK.
He'd make a great coach. If and when he's ready. I've got a feeling Tebow's goals are bit higher and more important than as asst coach of a college football program.
Ridiculous. Enjoy your fantasy.
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
If you don't let people know you are a Christian you can get away with what he did... “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
I wonder how Tebows stats compare to a QB like Trent Dilfer. Who by the way was released from his team right after he had just won a Super Bowl. And the reason for his release "He isn't a very good NFL QB, we are going to get someone else"!! Well guess what they haven't won a SB with that "supposedly better QB". ROTFLMAO... Then on the other hand you have "GREAT NFL QBs" who didn't win schitt. Lets see Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, Dan Fouts, Sonny Jurgensen, Fran Tarkenton and a few others. Moral of the story all you have to do is be able to drive the bus not push it all by yourself.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Dilfer -- though not statistically very good but mediocre -- did come up big and did not make mistakes when the moment was big in 2000. Even for just that single year. Dilfer QB rating of 76.6. (2000, Super Bowl year) Tebow QB rating: 72.9 (2011) Dilfer has a QB rating of 83.7 during his Super Bowl playoff run. Went 7-1 during the reglar season, and 4-0 in the playoffs. AND THE RAVENS CUT HIM! For who? Elvis Grbac, who went 8-6, made it only thru the 1st round of playoffs. Yeah, it took the Ravens a looong time to get back to the Big Show. Sometimes it's about...chemistry and leadership. NOT stats. Dilfer was a good fit. Then on the other hand you have "GREAT NFL QBs" who didn't win schitt. Lets see Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Warren Moon, Dan Fouts, Sonny Jurgensen, Fran Tarkenton and a few others. Moral of the story all you have to do is be able to drive the bus not push it all by yourself. Great moral. And yeah -- look at those names of great QBs who NEVER won a Super Bowl. And at that, even Peyton won only ONE Super Bowl. I'd still like for somebody to help me understanding exactly how they can dismiss the accomplishments of Tebow's 6 4th Q comebacks, helping the Broncs win the division, and helping beat the Steelers in a playoff game. But claim Tebow is "not an NFL QB."
Indeed. Whatever Tebow lacked that season in "NFL quality QBing" he made up for in leadership and intelligence. Tebow is Christian, conservative and white to boot. That is his 'problem.' I only heard wonderful gushing from the leftos at ESPN and NFL.com when the dog beater and killer QB got out of jail and trying to make a come back. If I remember correctly there was some weepy eyed come back vids the NFL promoted in his comeback. With the press given Tebow, you would think he shot a litter of puppies and used their skins to make footballs. Leftist rubbish. Will be poured in the lake of fire with all the other filth of this world.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
Yes indeed. Now with Demaro Murray in the backfield and the high tempo offense, yes an athlete like Tebow is welcome on the Eagles.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
I take it you don't watch much of SEC college football.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
Good point. Jerry Jones I think combs the paroll officers and State Pens for his players. Why not get a good back up for Romo who does not have felony convictions?:)
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
The dog hangman and raper certainly got lots of attention. They also think he's suffered enough and that he should be allowed to own dogs again. If it were up to me, he'd still be in prison.
Tebow is Christian, conservative and white to boot. That is his 'problem.' All valid observations as well as THE truth of the matters. And isn't especially galling to hear that fake meme that Tebow is "polarizing"?? Is he too humble? Too much into personal responsibility and sacrifice? Or is it his discipline in not being a man-whore? Tebow's very existence threatens and reminds the im-moralists that good men...good white men (who run well), and good openly Christian men make for excellent leaders. They just can't have that narrative hemorrhaging in public. It might encourage too many young people emulate such a man. I only heard wonderful gushing from the leftos at ESPN and NFL.com when the dog beater and killer QB got out of jail and trying to make a come back. If I remember correctly there was some weepy eyed come back vids the NFL promoted in his comeback. You remembered correctly. Vick was admired and forgiven for his noble "rehab" and remorse by those sanctimonious jock-sniffing ESPN/ NFL.com hypocrites. Vick even mentioned "God" as part of the reason for his remorse. All well and good, but why was the mention of God in that context ok? And WHY was a creep like Vick someone to get all weepy eyed and excited over? Wouldn't have anything to do with a racial bias, would it? Is it ONLY former-villains whose humility, remorse and penance is acceptable? With the press given Tebow, you would think he shot a litter of puppies and used their skins to make footballs. Leftist rubbish. Will be poured in the lake of fire with all the other filth of this world. Beyond insane is the way we should regard this unjustified hatred and animus for Tim Tebow. They'd HATE him for petting puppies. That's how sick the Left is. He's a proxy target for Jesus Christ and ALL Christians. That hatred and resentment is based solely NOT on his performance, but on the fact that he's a popular, unabashed Christian athlete performing in a high-profile position, on a huge stage. How dare he!!?! In this perverse culture, we're only supposed admire and emulate the imperfect, the whores, the liars, and gluttons. My theory is that Tebow and his sincere demeanor makes the hateful and habitually sinful feel....ashamed. They want nothing more than to see him fail, get hurt, and get tripped up by a single sin unnecessary. So then they can pull out the "HYPOCRITE!" card and feel better about themselves. (sorry for the length of rant)
Yup. Could be a great fit with Murray. AND strike absolute fear into a defensive coaching staff's game plan. Even IF they don't use Tebow, his offensive sets and plays will have to be prepared for.
All good and accurate.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
I take it you don't watch much of SEC college football. Must be the case. Tebow notoriety is merit-based as a QB of Florida U's and two national championships on the Big Stage and a Heisman. And then of course leading the Denver Broncos to a Division Championship, an improbably six late comeback victories, and additional playoff victory over the Steelers. Sam is co-winner of a flimsy conference Defensive Player of the Year in what was obviously an AA award. PERIOD. His homosexuality was an open secret. The extent of sharing ANY compelling similarity of notoriety is purely a matter of the pro-homo agenda media's obsessive, endless promotion vs. their derision and ridicule of Tebow. Sam's notoriety is as result of his proclaimed "First Openly Queer College Player" to step out of the closet and flaunting his homosexuality and kiss on TV.
ROFL!
So, according to you, a bunch of NFL teams would much rather lose than to have Tebow leading them to victory. Because they don't actually care about winning. I think that if they thought he could win, he'd be their #1 QB. But they don't so he isn't. Instead, he's #4 QB on a so-so team. And Tebow and Sams are still very similar in that their fanbois drive all the coverage of them.
Not really. However, there was much to be a 'fanbois' about Tebow's college career. He actually led a team to two national championships. And he did lead a hapless Broncos to after going 1-4 to a Division championship and went one victory deep in the playoffs...not to mention against the mighty Steelers that year. Tebow in one year did what Tony Romo could not do in the playoffs in almost 8 years...Win a playoff game.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
So, you are with Liberator in the "every NFL team would rather lose than have Tebow as their QB" camp? So, if Tebow raped some chick or slapped his girlfriend around on camera or ran a dogfighting ring, the NFL would finally love him? I don't think Tebow is that hated. I think his performance has not impressed the decision-makers. The same goes for Michael Sams. Of course, it is easier and more palatable for fanbois to say "they hate Tebow" or "they hate Sam" than it is to admit they don't have top-rank talent in the eyes of the coaches and owners of NFL teams. Most college ball players don't make it in the NFL. I don't see why Tebow (or Sam) are so different other than the religion or gaiety angle and their hordes of fanbois.
He spent a good deal of time taking instruction from Tom Brady's coach Tom House this year . Perhaps his throwing motion was corrected . House said :"He went from being a little inaccurate and didn’t throw a whole lot of spirals, to throwing very accurate and real good at spinning the ball"
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Certainly, it is possible for Tebow to up his game during this down period. It would help to explain this modest comeback. The NFL doesn't have a lot of comeback stories.
Jerry likes controversy, glitz and glamour that's why they didn't start drafting decent players until his son got more involved. Since they picked up Hardy the need for a DL isn't as great I think they will draft a corner in the 1st if a good one is available. I think they are going to try to get Bryce Petty (Baylor QB) in the draft this year, he's ranked 91 and the boys draft at 91 (3rd round). On the other hand they might go after Petty in the 2nd round (just to ensure they get him) since there a bunch of RBs available in the 3rd (which they need also). After that they will draft a PK/KR and a bunch of the best defenders available, in which order well I have no clue.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Then that means he will try to trade up to get Jameis Winston!
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
The NFL as a whole no, certain owners yes.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Exactly - and his resume speaks for itself. I think if he gets a fair chance, he's going to surprise a lot of people.
I want to disagree with you but I'm not so sure. The NFL stopped selling Aaron Hernandez jerseys but they sold out of their large stock of them and now they're going for $250 and up on eBay.
Remember what he did to the Jets while with the Broncos.
It is my opinion that doors closed to Tebow that would be open for other QBs in the league. We have had QBs work on a team an entire career without registering a playoff win. NFL team owners are businessmen. So I understand them striving and dealing to get the best QB to lead their offense. However, I don't understand their bad business decisions with Tebow. Most NFL fans are also College Football fans. Tebow was one of the best players in College football and SEC history. That is income for an NFL team whether they start Tebow, try to convert him to another position or have him as back up QB. The Eagles seem to know this is a good business and football decision. Tebow will be a solid #2 as he proved he can take a competitive team and lead them to the playoffs and into the playoffs. Your comparison to Mike Sam is way off. Sam was no "Tebow" of the defense. Tebow did not get drafted high because he was a Christian and did not lobby to be drafted because he was a Christian. Sam tried the gay thing to make his name known to a larger audience. Tebow did not have to do that as he was a proven champion in the VERY competitive SEC. Now let's analyze our society a bit. We have a QB who led his team to two national championships, presents a moral example parents would like their kids to emulate and to quote Dennis Miller "Tebow is the type of guy I want my daughter to marry." We have this champion example of a man and he happens to be a Christian. He is defined by our society as 'too divisive' and 'too controversial.' On the other hand we have more than a few NFL players each year suspended for domestic violence, drugs and one for murder. We have an average LB who no team would consider drafting other than ESPN and the liberal press trumping his homosexuality. Thus the homosexual lobby holding a loaded gun to GM's and owners heads. It took them a lot of PR work to take their message directly to the American people that Sam would get a look but was not draft quality. Yet one team did burn a draft pick seeking positive business exposure. Sam was cut. Draft pick wasted. Tebow's greatest success might be showing America how really down the road to hell her morals have gone. One final comment. I loved to watch RG III play for Baylor as they are not far from us. He too a Heismen winner turned out to be a top NLF draft pick. There were some who said of him "he's a runner more than a passer" but that was not mentioned much. Some said he is a balanced QB but physically won't be able to handle the hits of NFL defenders. Yet after two injuries and so so seasons no one is saying much.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
Two National championships make them quite different.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
Whether you want to admit it or not, Tebow has a certain amount of baggage he brings with him to any NFL franchise. Legions of fanbois. And legions of others who don't like him, maybe because he's a virgin, maybe because he prays, whatever. A QB of equal talent might have already found a club to call home, as you mention. But Tebow probably hasn't because he has all that baggage. And the NFL teams are going more in the direction of the Michael Sams than the Tim Tebows. I'm not sure why you expect anything more of the NFL. Were you under the impression they are Christian-friendly? I never thought so.
Having legions of intense fanbois despite rather modest records does make them comparable. Ever see how Teh Gheys drool on over Sam and obsess about him? I don't think that particular circus made him any more attractive to owners/coaches. They just don't want such a notorious young player. Admittedly, they did let Vicks come back after prison but he was money in the bank for his team, a proven major talent also with his own fanboi base.
His 15 minutes of fame are up - he was last seen as a contestant on "Dancing With The Stars"
Some kind of odd payback for killing the Jets? Great memory...Monday Night. Typical Tebow Time. 00.58 left on the clock. He was good enough to beat a competent Jets team in 2011, but NOT good enough to QB their team in 2012 when it was clear that a Sanchez-led Jets team was a loser. You got me utubing a bunch of Tebow's last minute winning drives. Good stuff.
Did they make him dance with a woman? I don't watch that show, although I saw a minute or two of it one evening at the local tavern TV. Some guy with one arm was dancing. We called him Stumpy.
Absolutely the case. EVERY NFL team is making money hand over fist, regardless. The collusion to blackball Tebow was more important...even more important than profit. The Left is more than willing to sacrifice profit (*cough MSNBC*) in exchange for advancing an agenda. In case you were wondering, the NFL has become a vehicle for political and social change. Tebow and his popularity were a deterrent to that goal. I think that if they thought he could win, he'd be their #1 QB. But they don't so he isn't. Instead, he's #4 QB on a so-so team. Depth charts mean nothing at this point. Frankly, I believe politics and the Left's agenda is going to dictate whether or not Tebow makes the team or plays -- NOT his skill level. And Tebow and Sams are still very similar in that their fanbois drive all the coverage of them. Uh, no. The media's goon-squad of hitmen has driven the coverage of Tebow. ONLY to ridicule and marginalize him and his base of fans (of whom coincidentally are largely comprised of white Christians and/or God-centric people.) Btw -- how and why do you think "polarizing" became THE one word used by the media to describe Tim Tebow? We've noted the very same media phenomena and parallels in the coverage Palin. WE refer to what should be called, "Pavlov's Media Dog." In Sam's case, there ARE no "fanbois" to speak of -- other than counting the MSM's fake, contrived, forced interest and non-stop gay promotion. His "fanboi" base is 3% of the population who buy Sam's jersey AND Leftist/gay-centric media(of an NFL team for which he failed to make, nor has ever played a single game.) Tebow's retains "fanbois" for good reason -- his accomplishments are legend. His ethics and morals, and commitment to excellence and discipline are greatly admired. OTOH, Michael Sam's has accomplished NOTHING. His main "accomplishment" is his admission that he is a sodomite. Yet is ridiculously promoted by a media committed to a queer wannabe contrived, non-existent "NFL career."
And he did lead a hapless Broncos to after going 1-4 to a Division championship and went one victory deep in the playoffs...not to mention against the mighty Steelers that year. Tebow in one year did what Tony Romo could not do in the playoffs in almost 8 years...Win a playoff game. Yup. ALL of that. And yes, imagine that -- those who say Tebow is "no NFL QB" led his team to a playoff win. His first time at the big dance. Something it took the great renown QB Romo 8 years to do. Leading a team to a victory in an NFL playoff game is no small feat. We might be belaboring the point, but if someone on "our side" is incapable of understanding and discerning the respective proper difference between Tim Tebow and Michael Sam -- as well as the coverage respective accomplishments and reason for admiration -- the extent of the media's saturation propaganda campaign is wildly successful. AND disheartening. I'm hoping TC is just not a observer of sports. But it still gives pause to who is swallowing (no pun intended) the media's respective memes.
Oddly phrased question. If the Tebow (we know and love) did such things, the militant heathens, atheists, and moral relativists would be relieved that such a standard bearer had failed epically. The Leftist, pro-queer run media would LOVE Tebow were that the case. He'd be their hero. So to answer you question, IMO, YES. The NFL would then not be compelled to blackball a "fallen" Tebow. I don't think Tebow is that hated. I think his performance has not impressed the decision-makers. The same goes for Michael Sams. Tebow IS "hated." By militant heathens, atheists, and moral relativists. And by envious "purists" and "experts" who can't explain Tebow's success by the numbers. Loved by everyone else. THAT scared the aforementioned detractors. Again you've conflated Tebow and Sam as though they are part the same coin. It's not even close. Most college ball players don't make it in the NFL. I don't see why Tebow (or Sam) are so different other than the religion or gaiety angle and their hordes of fanbois. (Tebow's accomplishments are already documented: ACCORDING TO THE RECORD HE'S A WINNING NFL/COLLEGE QUARTERBACK.) Michael Sam's claim to fame is that he's a loser, NOT NFL material, and a professional whining sodomite who wails that he's a "victim" of "homophobia."
That's the report. If true it's great news. The question will still remain: Have the NFL owners permission from the pro-Homo and Left's PTB to give Tim Tebow a REAL chance to re-establish himself?
Was it his son who helped straighten out the quality of players in Cowboy-land?? Yeah, problem is Jones was/is an attention whore with few scruples. He's an owner for whom a strong dislike can be embraced ;-) It was fun watching my Jints ruin many a year for Jones.
HA! That'd be hilarious!
I think if he gets a fair chance, he's going to surprise a lot of people. Amen on that resume. It's still a big "IF" on whether Tebow is given a fair chance. Coach Kelley seems to travel to the beat of his own drummer and seems immune to media criticism (which was also one of the fears of coaches in playing Tebow....BUT curiously coaches aren't so much criticized by media for playing a bunch of thugs who beat wives and GF, rapists, and the drug-addled.)
I'm not sure why you expect anything more of the NFL. Were you under the impression they are Christian-friendly? I never thought so. I was pointing out the hypocrisy and double standards. "Baggage?" When has living a clean life been called 'baggage?'
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
That circus DID get Sam drafted. If there was not a circus Sam would have been sent straight to a practice squad or walk on try out for pre-season. The NFL appeased the lobby by having the Rams waste a draft pick.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
Was about to mention Palin. It seems SNL's two favorites to ridicule are Palin first then Tebow.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
OTOH, Michael Sam's has accomplished NOTHING. His main "accomplishment" is his admission that he is a sodomite. Yet is ridiculously promoted by a media committed to a queer wannabe contrived, non-existent "NFL career." Target hit!
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
If the Tebow (we know and love) did such things, the militant heathens, atheists, and moral relativists would be relieved that such a standard bearer had failed epically. The Leftist, pro-queer run media would LOVE Tebow were that the case. He'd be their hero. Maybe if Tebow had a long line of women he bedded and a few kids out of wedlock and paid for abortions to boot then he would be in the club.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
Rumor or legend has it that Jerry Jones had Johnny Manzel's 'card' in his hand to drop for the draft and his son took it out of his hand and put it away:) There's hope for the Cowboys.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
I think they are going to try to get Bryce Petty (Baylor QB) in the draft this year, he's ranked 91 and the boys draft at 91 (3rd round). On the other hand they might go after Petty in the 2nd round (just to ensure they get him) since there a bunch of RBs available in the 3rd (which they need also). After that they will draft a PK/KR and a bunch of the best defenders available, in which order well I have no clue. Good run down. Did not know they were looking at Petty...Good business decision to boot. Local boy 'down the road in Waco (Baylor), will sell more season tickets and gear. But oh no, Bryce is a Christian and recently (2012) baptized. He better not genuflect on the field! Bryce Petty's Pursuit of Inner Peace Has Baylor in Pursuit of History "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” (1 Peter 1:3)
Evaluating Tebow is not easy. It is undeniable that he won games. He took a 1-4 Broncos team and turned them into must-watch football every Sunday. Love him or hate him, he put fans in the seats and brought viewers to the tube. His passing was another story. He missed open receivers repeatedly. For 55 minutes. Then he threw dimes for 5 minutes. A good defense kept games close and helped Tebow. Tebow did not turn the ball over and helped the defense. You might say he won ugly, but he won. For some interesting reading about Tebow's time training with Tom House, see the following lengthy article: APR 20, 5:42 pm Mike Garafolo reports on Chip Kelly's possible reasons for signing Tim Tebow and Tebow's chances of actually making the team. When I first saw colleague Jay Glazer's report Sunday that Chip Kelly's Philadelphia Eagles were about to sign Tim Tebow, I thought, This might break the Internet. [...] Before I started working on my book "The QB," I had no intention of writing anything about Tebow in there. However, one of the main characters in the book, Tom House, a former journeyman major league pitcher who has turned into the country's leading sports biomechanics guru, had been working with Tebow for months. Every day for hours. This was after Tebow had been released by the Patriots two years ago and Tom Brady, who has become a protege of House's, recommended the former Broncos QB see House at USC, where he has an office above the third base line. [...] The "fixing" of Tim Tebow, the quarterback, would take some three months. House's diagnosis of why Tebow was inaccurate all came back to timing issues with his body. Once they could get his body in sync, the mechanics were actually pretty easy to fix, the former major league pitcher said. "He still does what he's always done with his throwing arm. We just fixed the front side and gave him a better posture to do it and made him time it better." Beyond that, House said Tebow learned why he would misfire whenever he did, which “The Professor” said was vital for anyone to be at their best. "We allowed him to understand why the ball goes right or left, why the ball goes high or low and how to spin the ball and how to physically prepare from feet to fingertips and to take it out and make the dynamic movement work for you and not against you. Does the term muscle-head make sense? He muscled everything. He can muscle it when he needs it, but now he's got kinematic sequencing. He's muscled down for efficiency." Another underlying problem that tied into Tebow's issues in the NFL that House ID'd: The former All-American quarterback had no confidence in his throwing ability. "He didn't think he could make that throw, so he went to what he was confident in, and that was his legs," House said. For some 2011 history of Tebow Time, http://www.nfl.com/features/freakonomics/episode-8 How does a team that ranks second to last in passing yards with a QB who completes fewer than half his throws continue to win? Stephen J. Dubner has the answer. Tebow Time By Stephen J. Dubner Tim Tebow led six fourth-quarter comebacks in his first 11 starts. That, not surprisingly, is an NFL record. Also not surprising: It led to a full-fledged outbreak of Tebow Fever. As Tebow ran his record as the Broncos' starting quarterback to 7-1, it was hard to turn on the TV or pick up a magazine without catching a case of it. In this installment of "Football Freakonomics," we look at the numbers behind Tebow's remarkable surge. We've all heard it: Tebow is not the kind of quarterback who looks good in practice. As it turns out, he doesn't look very good in the first three quarters of games either. Just how bad is he in the early going? In the first half of what ultimately became a Week 10 win against the Chiefs, Tebow missed all four of his attempted passes, making Denver the first team to take a lead into halftime without having a completion since the Packers did it against the Bears in 1994. (The quarterback in that game, by the way, was Brett Favre.) As bad as Tebow has been in the first 45 minutes, the fourth quarter has plainly been Tebow Time. During his 7-1 run, his fourth-quarter passer rating was 111, third-best in the league. In the critical final five minutes of games, his passer rating was a whopping 124.5. [snip]
Interesting analysis. We'll see if Tebow's new passing skills can help him climb over 3 other QB's to become the Eagles' #1 QB.
You sure mention the word "white" a lot. Like Tebow is the Great White Hope or something. You didn't do the math. Assume it's only 2% of the population but that all of them are ready to line up and buy a Sams jersey and be his fanbois. That could make him the biggest player in the NFL by the time you toss in some guilty white libs desperate to support the latest gaiety. Except Sams doesn't have enough skills to make it in the NFL. He'll have a minor career as a gay sports icon, Dancing With The Idiots, Oprah's venues, write a book or two, maybe get an announcer job. If nothing else, he can do some porn.
And some of them are so scared of negative media attention they draft players they wouldn't ordinarily draft just because the media thinks it would be a good thing, think the Rams and Sam. Speaking of the Rams remember the schitt storm the media raised when Rush made it known he was thinking about buying into the Rams about 2 years ago? WOW did the MSM have a big hissy fit over that, dropped every card in the deck trying to make something stick.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
They brought him in and interviewed him after his Pro Day about a month ago. Since he hasn't been running a pro offense in college it would take him a couple of years to get up to speed, just in time for Romo's retirement.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Not really cause he's gonna be a big failure, he will end up in orange before it's over with... “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
His passing was another story. He missed open receivers repeatedly. For 55 minutes. Then he threw dimes for 5 minutes. A good defense kept games close and helped Tebow. Tebow did not turn the ball over and helped the defense. You might say he won ugly, but he won. This was an excellent assessment and overview. Tebow made for "Must-see-TV." I was checking out the TV schedule for Bronco games. That 55/5 minute observation is spot on. Tebow was brutal for too much of a typical game. But too so was your observation that he didn't hurt the team by turning the ball over; it did help the "D" which played as though it were on a mission. Yup, "winning ugly" was definitely the case (although the last 5 minutes of a Broncos game was the most exciting 5 minutes in sports that year.) Tebow Time Tim Tebow led six fourth-quarter comebacks in his first 11 starts. That, not surprisingly, is an NFL record... ...As bad as Tebow has been in the first 45 minutes, the fourth quarter has plainly been Tebow Time. During his 7-1 run, his fourth-quarter passer rating was 111, third-best in the league. In the critical final five minutes of games, his passer rating was a whopping 124.5. Mind-blowing stats. The overview on Tom House's recalibration of Tebow's mechanics as well as addressing Tebow's confidence problem -- good stuff. Be extremely fascinating to watch how he fares.
Lol...nice tweaking :-)
Like Tebow is the Great White Hope or something. Really? How many times is considered "a lot"? You may not know this as one who hasn't followed sports too closely, BUT, sports has become VERY PC. As a matter of fact, it's been noted that Tebow's style as a "running QB" has been resented by many pundits (and many ex-NFL players) -- both white AND black. They apparently feel threatened because that style has traditionally been considered the sole domain of a "black"-styled running QB. It's a style that pundits and experts have long routinely criticized as "un-winnable" for a pro NFL QB as opposed to a "pocket-passer" (usually used to describe the white "style" of QBing.) Tim Tebow made it work. Oooops. But what is NOT discussed is the component of his leadership and courage that's required. You didn't do the math. Assume it's only 2% of the population but that all of them are ready to line up and buy a Sams jersey and be his fanbois. That could make him the biggest player in the NFL by the time you toss in some guilty white libs desperate to support the latest gaiety. Except Sams doesn't have enough skills to make it in the NFL. He'll have a minor career as a gay sports icon, Dancing With The Idiots, Oprah's venues, write a book or two, maybe get an announcer job. If nothing else, he can do some porn. Yes, I *did* do the math. That 2 or 3% of queers aren't usually huge sports nut demo, so how many are actually going to buy his jersey of a team he did NOT make? Sure, we can toss in the gay-friendly, "enlightened" psychologically coerced libs and leftists into that mix of "fanbois" of the un-accomplished Michael Sam. However I'll reiterate -- *his* Fanboi-dom (or Cult) is based SOLELY on their mutual identification of same-sex homosexual preference. Penis-worshipers are not so much NFL/football fans as much as social-change queers looking to support their own crusade, "Moses" and role model. He'll have a minor career as a gay sports icon, Dancing With The Idiots, Oprah's venues, write a book or two, maybe get an announcer job. I'll (not) go out on a limb and say Sam's career will be as a network sports "pundit" or host of some homo-run/themed show. And yes, a future author who may have his own TV series. A bio flick will definitely be in the works.
Yup. As with politics and politicians, the media now intimidates, threatens, and coerces parties into their choice of candidate OR afflete OR issue. OR ELSE. As in the case of Michael Sam. He was an utter waste of a draft pick. But at least most savvy observers *knew* his selection was purely political to avoid the promised bad publicity and homofascist blackmail of the NFL. Speaking of the Rams remember the schitt storm the media raised when Rush made it known he was thinking about buying into the Rams about 2 years ago? WOW did the MSM have a big hissy fit over that, dropped every card in the deck trying to make something stick. Great point and memory. The lib-leftist fascists did hammer Rush with every race card in the deck. Why wasn't depriving Rush of NFL ownership considered "intolerant," "racist," and "bigoted" in that case? He was the victim of character assassination and blackmail. And the media hyped that portrayal until it was clear he was out of the ownership picture. Not only that, remember when he worked for ESPN for what -- 5 minutes before getting fired by his gay overlords? For noting that the PC media seem to be obvious in going out of their way to talk up Donovan McNabb...because they wanted a black QB to succeed.
No doubt. But lib bastions ESPN and NFL.com will pull for the entitled QB rapist and thief until then. Cuz he's "been unfairly maligned and deserves a chance."
Since he's done Dancing with the Stars it should make him fully qualified to host a homo spin off of it. It might even rival CNN or MSNBC for viewership. (I can just imagine what the costumes would look like).
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
That was just to help make up for the Rush debacle, the owner wanted to be back in the good graces of the MSM. Which kinda surprises me that they cut him, but never fear "Media Whore Jerry" rode to the rescue and picked him up for awhile. So I wonder how much money SAM made for his part in being the NFLs "Trophy Homo"?? Hey maybe Hilary will pick him up as an adviser/showpiece for her presidential run!!
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
The word hypocrisy is not a word in the Lefts dictionary when it comes to describing themselves. If you accurately describe them using words such as uncaring, apathetic or antipathy they will try to hang you up by your nutsack. The Left has such an aversion to the truth you know.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Which in other words means "his dumbass got caught".
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
That's a pretty limited statistical basis.
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
Mebbe, but I reckon that if Tebow could post a 111 passer rating for eight consecutive fourth quarters, his lack of similar success in other quarters cannot be attributed to an inherent physical inability to throw the ball.
#2. To: Liberator, A K A Stone (#1)
How is a QB (with NO seasoning) who led his team into the playoffs, and QB'd his team to a AFC Championship game by ANY measure considered a "failure"??
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
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#3. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#4. To: Deckard (#2)
Yeah - I like the way they set up the story too.Traded to the Jets in March 2012, Tebow had a single, disastrous season in New York.
#5. To: Deckard, Liberator, A K A Stone (#2)
(Edited)
In fact it is my contention that if they HAD played Tebow, it's likely they would have made it too the playoffs.
#6. To: TooConservative, Deckard, Liberator, A K A Stone (#5)
It could be that Tebow just doesn't have the pro moxie to play at the top level of the NFL.
#7. To: A K A Stone (#0)
The Philadelphia Eagles plan to bring in quarterback Tim Tebow and sign him Monday as they begin their offseason program, FOX Sports NFL insider Jay Glazer reports. Multiple outlets later confirmed the report.
#8. To: SOSO, TooConservative, Deckard, A K A Stone, redleghunter, CZ82 (#6)
I followed Tebow closely when he was in Denver. He is a great athlete but definitely not a NFL quarterback. He probably could have made it in the NFL at another position (e.g. - receiver) had he had the background.
#9. To: TooConservative, Deckard, Liberator, A K A Stone, Redleghunter (#5)
We'd never have even heard of either one except that one was the Virgin Quarterback
#10. To: TooConservative (#7)
Tebow has mostly "signed with the Eagles" as a practice dummy. He's #4 out of 4 quarterbacks for the Eagles....
"It's getting an exposure to a player so that when you have to make a decision and say, 'Hey, what are we going to do now?' you say, 'I don't know anything about these players. Let's bring them in and work them out,' and it may be too late at that point in time. So all we're doing is just doing our homework."
Let Kelley make a football decision; not a social decision.
#11. To: tomder55, TooConservative, Deckard, Liberator, A K A Stone, redleghunter, CZ82 (#9)
....AND he was the first college sophomore to win the Heisman trophy. He was also the MVP of a national championship team. He held the Southeastern Conference's all-time records in both career passing efficiency and total rushing touchdowns .
#12. To: TooConservative (#5)
It could be that Tebow just doesn't have the pro moxie to play at the top level of the NFL.
#13. To: Liberator, TooConservative, Deckard, A K A Stone, redleghunter, CZ82 (#8)
Tebow has some obvious mechanical problems, as well as problems reading defenses. Again, typical. He's made strides to improve his mechanics; *Only* experience will help any QB read defenses.
#14. To: SOSO (#13)
#15. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#16. To: SOSO (#13)
(Edited)
Dream on. His passing stats tell it all.
#17. To: Jameson (#15)
(Edited)
Young Mr. Tebow is really not an NFL quarterback.
#18. To: Liberator (#17)
#19. To: Jameson, SOSO, Deckard, A K A Stone, redleghunter, CZ82 (#18)
(Edited)
Yeah....I notice Mr. Tebow no longer works for the Broncos.
#20. To: Jameson (#18)
He'll be a great coach, I look forward to his arrival in Columbus.
#21. To: Liberator (#19)
But he's been blackballed.
#22. To: Liberator (#8)
For SOME reason, teams don't want to give this guy a chance to become the winning QB and leader he is (*cough media*) And THAT reason is Tebow's open Christian faith (somehow deemed "polarizing" by the heathen media) worn on his sleeve.
#23. To: SOSO, Liberator, Jameson (#13)
#24. To: CZ82, SOSO, Liberator, Jameson (#23)
I wonder how Tebows stats compare to a QB like Trent Dilfer. Who by the way was released from his team right after he had just won a Super Bowl. And the reason for his release "He isn't a very good NFL QB, we are going to get someone else"!! Well guess what they haven't won a SB with that "supposedly better QB". ROTFLMAO...
#25. To: Liberator, tomder55 (#8)
NEWSFLASH: Tim Tebow IS a Quarterback. That's the position he's excelled at. True, he wasn't nearly the prototypical QB. But he IS an "NFL QB." You don't go 8-3 if you're not an "NFL QB. It's impossible. OR win several games during Crunch Time through sheer will. What kind of "expert" dismisses ANY quarterback who wins 8 out of his first 11 games, including a playoff game? Moreover, people somehow forget that Tebow was a rookie with virtually NO seasoning. He doesn't QB a single game for the Jets, yet the media proclaims HIM a "disaster"?? On what planet is that the case...when you don't even play??
#26. To: tomder55, liberator (#9)
I'm not saying he'll ever be a great NFL QB . But the system that the Eagles run looks tailor made for Tebow's style of play .
#27. To: TooConservative, tomder55, liberator (#5)
We'd never have even heard of either one except that one was the Virgin Quarterback
#28. To: Liberator, tomder55, CZ82 (#19)
How many young winning QBs in the history of the NFL have ever suddenly NOT found ANY team interested in them? With the number of crummy QBs out there??
#29. To: redleghunter (#25)
I only heard wonderful gushing from the leftos at ESPN and NFL.com when the dog beater and killer QB got out of jail and trying to make a come back.
#30. To: redleghunter, tomder55 (#25)
Whatever Tebow lacked that season in "NFL quality QBing" he made up for in leadership and intelligence.
#31. To: redleghunter, tomder55 (#26)
Now with Demaro Murray in the backfield and the high tempo offense, yes an athlete like Tebow is welcome on the Eagles.
#32. To: Liberator (#30)
(sorry for the length of rant)
#33. To: redleghunter, TooConservative, tomder55 (#27)
(We'd never have even heard of either one except that one was the Virgin Quarterback)
#34. To: redleghunter (#28)
Jerry Jones I think combs the paroll officers and State Pens for his players. Why not get a good back up for Romo who does not have felony convictions?:)
#35. To: Liberator (#30)
My theory is that Tebow and his sincere demeanor makes the hateful and habitually sinful feel....ashamed. They want nothing more than to see him fail, get hurt, and get tripped up by a single sin unnecessary. So then they can pull out the "HYPOCRITE!" card and feel better about themselves.
#36. To: TooConservative, liberator, tomder55 (#35)
And Tebow and Sams are still very similar in that their fanbois drive all the coverage of them.
#37. To: redleghunter, Liberator (#36)
#38. To: TooConservative, redleghunter, Liberator (#37)
#39. To: tomder55 (#38)
#40. To: redleghunter (#28)
Good point. Jerry Jones I think combs the paroll officers and State Pens for his players. Why not get a good back up for Romo who does not have felony convictions?:)
#41. To: redleghunter (#28)
Good point. Jerry Jones I think combs the parole officers and State Pens for his players.
#42. To: TooConservative (#37)
So, if Tebow raped some chick or slapped his girlfriend around on camera or ran a dogfighting ring, the NFL would finally love him?
#43. To: Liberator (#11)
Btw, how many QBs are used to winning close games? THAT is on Tebow's NFL resume.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#44. To: CZ82 (#42)
The NFL as a whole no, certain owners yes.
#45. To: Deckard, Liberator, A K A Stone (#2)
The Jets had a "disastrous" season (6-10 )- Tebow didn't.
#46. To: TooConservative, liberator, CZ82 (#37)
So, you are with Liberator in the "every NFL team would rather lose than have Tebow as their QB" camp?
#47. To: TooConservative (#37)
I don't see why Tebow (or Sam) are so different
#48. To: redleghunter (#46)
#49. To: redleghunter (#47)
Two National championships make them quite different.
#50. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#49)
Ever see how Teh Gheys drool on over Sam and obsess about him? I don't think that particular circus made him any more attractive to owners/coaches
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#51. To: nolu chan, Deckard, A K A Stone (#45)
Remember what he did to the Jets while with the Broncos.
#52. To: Deckard (#50)
His 15 minutes of fame are up - he was last seen as a contestant on "Dancing With The Stars"
#53. To: TooConservative, tomder55, redleghunter, nolu chan, CZ82, Deckard (#35)
So, according to you, a bunch of NFL teams would much rather lose than to have Tebow leading them to victory. Because they don't actually care about winning.
#54. To: redleghunter, TooConservative, tomder55 (#36)
However, there was much to be a 'fanbois' about Tebow's college career. He actually led a team to two national championships.
#55. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#37)
So, if Tebow raped some chick or slapped his girlfriend around on camera or ran a dogfighting ring, the NFL would finally love him?
#56. To: tomder55, TooConservative, redleghunter (#38)
He spent a good deal of time taking instruction from Tom Brady's coach Tom House this year . Perhaps his throwing motion was corrected . House said :"He went from being a little inaccurate and didn’t throw a whole lot of spirals, to throwing very accurate and real good at spinning the ball"
#57. To: CZ82, redleghunter (#40)
Jerry likes controversy, glitz and glamour that's why they didn't start drafting decent players until his son got more involved.
#58. To: CZ82 (#41)
Then that means he will try to trade up to get Jameis Winston!
#59. To: Deckard (#43)
Exactly - and his resume speaks for itself.
#60. To: TooConservative (#48)
A QB of equal talent might have already found a club to call home, as you mention. But Tebow probably hasn't because he has all that baggage. And the NFL teams are going more in the direction of the Michael Sams than the Tim Tebows.
#61. To: TooConservative (#49)
Ever see how Teh Gheys drool on over Sam and obsess about him? I don't think that particular circus made him any more attractive to owners/coaches.
#62. To: Liberator (#53)
The media's goon-squad of hitmen has driven the coverage of Tebow. ONLY to ridicule and marginalize him and his base of fans (of whom coincidentally are largely comprised of white Christians and/or God-centric people.) Btw -- how and why do you think "polarizing" became THE one word used by the media to describe Tim Tebow? We've noted the very same media phenomena and parallels in the coverage Palin. WE refer to what should be called, "Pavlov's Media Dog."
#63. To: Liberator (#53)
Tebow's retains "fanbois" for good reason -- his accomplishments are legend. His ethics and morals, and commitment to excellence and discipline are greatly admired.
#64. To: Liberator, TooConservative, tomder55 (#55)
Oddly phrased question.
#65. To: Liberator, CZ82 (#57)
Was it his son who helped straighten out the quality of players in Cowboy-land??
#66. To: CZ82, tomder55, liberator, TooConservative (#40)
Since they picked up Hardy the need for a DL isn't as great I think they will draft a corner in the 1st if a good one is available.
#67. To: Liberator, Deckard (#59)
It's still a big "IF" on whether Tebow is given a fair chance. Coach Kelley seems to travel to the beat of his own drummer and seems immune to media criticism (which was also one of the fears of coaches in playing Tebow....
What is Chip Kelly doing by signing Tim Tebow?
Tebow timing
#68. To: nolu chan (#67)
#69. To: Liberator (#53)
The media's goon-squad of hitmen has driven the coverage of Tebow. ONLY to ridicule and marginalize him and his base of fans (of whom coincidentally are largely comprised of white Christians and/or God-centric people.) Btw -- how and why do you think "polarizing" became THE one word used by the media to describe Tim Tebow? We've noted the very same media phenomena and parallels in the coverage Palin. WE refer to what should be called, "Pavlov's Media Dog."
In Sam's case, there ARE no "fanbois" to speak of -- other than counting the MSM's fake, contrived, forced interest and non-stop gay promotion. His "fanboi" base is 3% of the population who buy Sam's jersey AND Leftist/gay-centric media(of an NFL team for which he failed to make, nor has ever played a single game.)
#70. To: redleghunter, Too Conservative, Liberator (#46)
NFL team owners are businessmen. So I understand them striving and dealing to get the best QB to lead their offense. However, I don't understand their bad business decisions with Tebow.
#71. To: redleghunter (#66)
Did not know they were looking at Petty...
#72. To: Liberator (#58)
#73. To: nolu chan, CZ82, tomder55, redleghunter, TooConservative (#67)
Evaluating Tebow is not easy. It is undeniable that he won games. He took a 1-4 Broncos team and turned them into must-watch football every Sunday. Love him or hate him, he put fans in the seats and brought viewers to the tube.
#74. To: TooConservative (#68)
We'll see if Tebow's new passing skills can help him climb over 3 other QB's to become the Eagles' #1 QB.
#75. To: TooConservative (#69)
(Edited)
You sure mention the word "white" a lot.
#76. To: CZ82 (#70)
And some of them [NFL owners] are so scared of negative media attention they draft players they wouldn't ordinarily draft just because the media thinks it would be a good thing, think the Rams and Sam.
#77. To: CZ82 (#72)
He's [Winston] gonna be a big failure, he will end up in orange before it's over with...
#78. To: Liberator, Too Conservative (#75)
or host of some homo-run/themed show.
#79. To: Liberator (#76)
(Edited)
He was an utter waste of a draft pick.
#80. To: Liberator (#76)
(Edited)
Why wasn't depriving Rush of NFL ownership considered "intolerant," "racist," and "bigoted" in that case? He was the victim of character assassination and blackmail. And the media hyped that portrayal until it was clear he was out of the ownership picture.
#81. To: Liberator (#77)
Cuz he's "been unfairly maligned and deserves a chance.
#82. To: nolu chan (#67)
#83. To: no gnu taxes (#82)
That's a pretty limited statistical basis.
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