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Title: Video Captures Violent Attack on St. Louis Train That Began After Michael Brown Question
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URL Source: http://ktla.com/2015/03/27/cellphon ... -question-about-michael-brown/
Published: Mar 29, 2015
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2015-03-29 08:11:24 by out damned spot
Keywords: St. Louis, Brown, attack
Views: 20257
Comments: 82

WARNING: THIS VIDEO CONTAINS IMAGES AND LANGUAGE THAT MAY OFFEND SOME VIEWERS.

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When one man sat down next to a second man in a St. Louis light rail car late Monday and asked him his opinion on the shooting of Michael Brown, it was not the beginning of a discussion.

It was the start of an assault, police said.

The second man, who was white, didn’t want to answer the question. Then the first man, who was black, boxed him in the face. Two more African-American men joined in the beating, according to a police report.

It was caught on surveillance cameras on the MetroLink train and a passenger recorded it with a cell phone and posted the video online. It has gone viral.

Police confirmed to CNN affiliate KMOV that the online images came from Monday’s attack.

Late commute

The victim, 43, was commuting home when a young man in a red T-shirt and cap walked up to him. The victim asked not to be named in media reports.

The man asked to use the victim’s cell phone. He declined, and the young man sat down beside him.

“Then he asked me my opinion on the Michael Brown thing,” the victim told KMOV, “and I responded I was too tired to think about it right now.”

The suspect, in his twenties, stood up.

“The next thing I know, he sucker punches me right in the middle of my face,” the victim said. The video showed the suspect unleashing a barrage of punches at the head of the victim, who covered himself with his hand and forearms.

The two other men, also in their twenties, joined in, police said. As the train pulled into a station, a security guard saw part of the beating and alerted police.

The man in the red T-shirt could be seen on video kicking at the victim’s face before the train’s doors opened and the assailants ran out.

Faces on camera

The train’s surveillance cameras captured clear images of their faces, which MetroLink passed on to journalists. Police are looking for the three men.

They face possible charges of third-degree assault, police said. It is a misdemeanor under Missouri law.

The victim was left with bruises on his face and forehead, police said. The first punch dug the frame of his eyeglasses into the skin of his nose, the victim said. He declined to receive medical treatment.

But then there was the emotional pain. On the video, people could be heard laughing while the man was beaten.

“I think it was disgusting that people were sort of laughing and smiling about it,” the victim said. “And no one offered to help. No one seemed to call 911.”

Condemnation of the beating has spread across social media, including from people who protested the shooting of Brown last year by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. The officer was not indicted in Brown’s death. St. Louis alderman Antonio French, a vocal community leader in the aftermath of Ferguson, tweeted his disappointment in the beating.

“Mike Brown question sparks MetroLink beating caught on video,” he wrote. “This is disgusting. We have a major problem, STL.”

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#43. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone (#17) (Edited)

Aren't Jehovah Witnesses considered "Christian" like you?

At your age and degree of "knowledge," it'd behoove you to study up on the difference between faiths claiming to be "Christian," and those which veer into cultist status. All deception is contingent upon the perception and subtle subversion of truth.

I understand that when that wall of resentment and hatred of God goes up, it's kind of difficult to care one way or another. THAT is on YOU, Bucky.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-29   12:01:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone (#37)

Again, where is the supporting evidence [of the Bible]?

And once again, the "proof" has been jam-packed into witness after witness in the Bible and Gospels, citing the same events, places, and people.

But you...regard it all as "myth"?

In *your* opinion, is Plato "myth"? The Greek Empire? Caesar? Nero? Pontius Pilate? The Roman Empire? Alexander the Great? Charlemagne? At exactly WHAT point should any history NOT be regarded as myth? 100 B.C.? 500 A.D.? 1787 A.D.? Exactly WHEN?? And whom shall be the arbiter of "history"? Atheists and agnostics?

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-29   12:09:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: misterwhite, out damned spot, sneakypete, All (#5)

n my opinion that elevates it to second degree assault -- a felony -- since the shoe could be considered a deadly weapon and the intent was to cause bodily harm.

It's a f*cking hate crime. But it woill not be acknowledged as such by anyone.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-03-29   12:34:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A K A Stone (#28)

There are lots of good black folk.

I agree, Stoney. I know two who I consider my friends, one of whom had a couple guys do a home invasion on him. Robbed him of his cash, jewelry, weed and video games. As they left, they shot him in the leg because he didn't act scared enough. I asked him if they were homeboys that might have known him and he said "Nah, man. Them was niggaz that done that shit."

Logsplitter  posted on  2015-03-29   13:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Logsplitter (#46)

Yeah. But when you say entire neighborhoods are the N word. That is judging everyone of them for the actions of some of them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-29   13:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: buckeroo (#11)

Did you watch the video?

Yes.

Why do you ask?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-29   13:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Liberator (#14)

This isn't a "problem," this is a disaster waiting to happen.

No kidding. Just wait until the white people get fed up and start hating blacks on the same level that blacks hate whites now,and things will start getting "Medieval"

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-29   13:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: GrandIsland (#18)

Just give me the justification for DPF... I know how to testify.

Far be it for me to be the one dictating good judgement,but that's a public pronouncement you could come to regret.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-29   13:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: sneakypete (#48)

The event was completely planned right up to the moment of exit. The other thugs were nothing more than "backup" for any struggle.

The timing was all about exiting without being confronted. You wouldn't have had a chance in HELL to save your skin.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-29   13:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: misterwhite (#20) (Edited)

I saw one of these animals interviewed some time ago. He said flat out that he has no respect for white people who refuse to defend themselves and, because of that, they deserve it.

I agree with him,as long as the white people are ones who are male and have the ability to fight back.

IMHO,if you won't even fight to defend yourself against attack,you don't deserve a place at the dinner table. Go out in the yard and eat scraps with the dogs.

BTW,I mean no insult to dogs,who are noble creatures that will fight to the death to protect their families.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-29   13:13:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#24)

One example. They say there is no Hell.

Good point!

After all,what good is Christian Love and Understanding without a Hell being available?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-29   13:14:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: A K A Stone (#40)

What teachings of Christ do you find to be incorrect or immoral?

Yeah, that "turn your other cheek" stuff doesn't work in modern America in the inner cities and on publick transportation.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-29   13:15:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Logsplitter (#25) (Edited)

Avoid nigger neighborhoods and areas and events niggers are known to frequent.

And just exactly how would you go about doing that as a normal part of your day in most US cities?

You DO understand that not all black people are niggers,right? Please tell us how you can tell the difference by just looking.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-29   13:15:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: SOSO (#45)

It's a f*cking hate crime.

ALL violent crimes against people are hate crimes. Just because a victim may be black doesn't make it any better or any worse.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-29   13:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: buckeroo (#51) (Edited)

The event was completely planned right up to the moment of exit. The other thugs were nothing more than "backup" for any struggle.

You're probably right. They were looking for a white guy that looked harmless,and used the Michael Brown thing as an excuse to cry "white racism" if they get arrested.

You wouldn't have had a chance in HELL to save your skin.

Yeah,I would have. The guy is a pretty good dancer,but he hits like a little girl,and I AM a guy that fights back and who doesn't hit like a little girl.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-29   13:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Liberator (#43)

At your age and degree of "knowledge," it'd behoove you to study up on the difference between faiths claiming to be "Christian," and those which veer into cultist status.

All Christian faiths, denominations, sects, cults claim to be the TRUE religion of Jesus. Which one shall we pick from to get me or you or anyone else to GOD, the almighty?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-29   13:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: sneakypete (#57)

In a situation like this, what should we produce? A loaded gun or a Bible? Or was there enough time?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-29   13:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: buckeroo (#59)

In a situation like this, what should we produce? A loaded gun or a Bible? Or was there enough time?

I guess that depends on who you are and how you think.

Do you really think that guy hits hard enough to to anything other than piss you off? I've had people hit me so hard they spun me around,and I knocked them on their asses right after that.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-29   13:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: sneakypete (#60)

In a situation like the article, there would be no time for an aggressive act even for defensive purposes. The thugs planned the confrontation based on an exit scheme.

It is a problem with publick transportation; I wager that victim will no longer take the train.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-29   13:30:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: sneakypete (#50)

I realize that... I'm not worried. If I take human life, I'll assure you it will be justified.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-03-29   13:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Liberator (#44)

In *your* opinion, is Plato "myth"? The Greek Empire? Caesar? Nero? Pontius Pilate? The Roman Empire? Alexander the Great? Charlemagne? At exactly WHAT point should any history NOT be regarded as myth? 100 B.C.? 500 A.D.? 1787 A.D.? Exactly WHEN?? And whom shall be the arbiter of "history"? Atheists and agnostics?

Excellent questions, Liberator.

All the folks written in your commentary are well known and documented/written in historical documents.

I want to point out, the Romans were very skilled in detailed documentation about the empire. And yet, just as you omit, not one word about Jesus of Nazareth.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-29   13:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: buckeroo (#61) (Edited)

In a situation like the article, there would be no time for an aggressive act even for defensive purposes.

Of course there was. The guy getting hit could have used a knife hand to the attackers nuts at any time the guy was dancing around in front of him.

If the other guy has time to hit you,you have time to hit the other guy back. Just be serious about hurting him when you do.

After that he would have OWNED the MoFo,and his two "pals" would have sat down and been as quiet as church mice once they saw the guy had the ability and the will to defend himself.

A friend and I mistakenly walked into a "black bar" in VN in 1969. We were in town to buy stuff at the PX,and were just looking for a cool beer or two before heading back to the camp. We had no idea it was a "black bar" and wouldn't have given a damn if we had known. Everything stopped when we walked up to the bar and ordered beer,and the natives started getting restless and mumbling "kill honkie" crap.

That's when we started pulling grenades and 45 autos out of our pockets and smiling at them. It was amazing how timid they suddenly became. We managed to finish our beers in peace,and walk out the door with no problems.

And "yes,we were prepared to kill everybody in the joint if they pushed it."

People don't mob you because they are brave. They do it because they are cowards as individuals,and think they can hurt you with no harm coming their way. Hurt just one of them (preferably the most aggressive) bad enough to be screaming out for his mama,and the rest will back off and shut up.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-29   13:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: sneakypete (#64)

buckeroo: In a situation like the article, there would be no time for an aggressive act even for defensive purposes.

sneakypete: Of course there was. The guy getting hit could have used a knife hand to the attackers nuts at any time the guy was dancing around in front of him.

C'mon, the guy was tired from working all day trying to get home the cheapest way he could by taking publick transportation. He worked all day to pay his taxes so the local, state and federal government, most coveted and illustrious guardians would protect him. He was no nearer to having a knife ready for this or any situation any more than panning for Ag/Au in Eureka, California. I am afraid, the government has won a victory statement by being a constant protector of individual rights and freedoms.

If the other guy has time to hit you,you have time to hit the other guy back. Just be serious about hurting him when you do.

The victim was on his way home. He was probably lulled to sleep based on the hum-drum sounds of the train as he was sped to his designed destination. He had no time for reaction.

After that he would have OWNED the MoFo,and his two "pals" would have sat down and been as quiet as church mice once they saw the guy had the ability and the will to defend himself.

You or anyone else can not be prepared for the unexpected all the time.

A friend and I mistakenly walked into a "black bar" in VN in 1969. We were in town to buy stuff at the PX,and were just looking for a cool beer or two before heading back to the camp. We had no idea it was a "black bar" and wouldn't have given a damn if we had known. Everything stopped when we walked up to the bar and ordered beer,and the natives started getting restless and mumbling "kill honkie" crap.

Of course, you immediately left since you unprepared.

That's when we started pulling grenades and 45 autos out of our pockets and smiling at them. It was amazing how timid they suddenly became. We managed to finish our beers in peace,and walk out the door with no problems.

Serious? That is quite a tall tale, there.

And "yes,we were prepared to kill everybody in the joint if they pushed it."

I don't believe it. If you go into a bar, you are planning to relax.

People don't mob you because they are brave. They do it because they are cowards as individuals,and think they can hurt you with no harm coming their way. Hurt just one of them (preferably the most aggressive) bad enough to be screaming out for his mama,and the rest will back off and shut up.

It is always been this way on Earth. And the antics shall always be the same with just different circumstances and people.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-29   14:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: buckeroo (#63)

Excellent questions, Liberator.

Thanks, Buckeroo.

All the folks written in your commentary are well known and documented/written in historical documents.

I want to point out, the Romans were very skilled in detailed documentation about the empire. And yet, just as you omit, not one word about Jesus of Nazareth.

The Romans were indeed skilled in many areas of life, but the life of Jesus Christ was just one more inconsequential Jew in one more inconsequential a Roman outpost back then. The Romans would not be so inclined to report on the minutiae of non-citizens, would they? But then, why would only Roman accounts validate the existence, life and death of Jesus Christ in your opinion? (although Roman historian Tacitus did mention Jesus Christ, and so did Jewish historian, Josephus.) There were others sources as well.

Few historians deny the existence and life of Jesus Christ. What they may deny are his miracles, resurrection, and the eyewitness accounts afterward.

I still don't understand why the observed and documentation as written in the FOUR Gospels should be dismissed. They included historically proven people, places, and things. Nothing is amiss.

A conspiracy?? If so, the usual reason for that type of collusion of history or the creation of "myth" is greed or money. NONE of which defined Jesus of Nazareth or his disciples. Moreover, people usually don't usually allow themselves to be tossed to the lions or crucified without a fight....just for a myth.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-29   14:40:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: buckeroo (#58)

All Christian faiths, denominations, sects, cults claim to be the TRUE religion of Jesus. Which one shall we pick from to get me or you or anyone else to GOD, the almighty?

Valid challenges...

The one "true Christian faith" is the one that adheres solely to the commandments and expectations of Jesus Christ as specified in the Bible. So called membership in "Christ's Church" far more simple than many imagine, but built-in for-profit quirks, criteria, and exclusivity have been created unnecessary, un-Biblical requisites.

IMO, you can't go wrong with a church that goes, "Sola Scriptura." That would be a Baptist church. I know your initial reaction to attending a Bible Class might be scoffed at, but you might be surprise at your own level of interest and fascination of the subject matter as well as challenging the instructor.

Liberator  posted on  2015-03-29   14:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: buckeroo (#65)

C'mon, the guy was tired from working all day trying to get home the cheapest way he could by taking publick transportation. He worked all day to pay his taxes so the local, state and federal government, most coveted and illustrious guardians would protect him.

OR.....,maybe he was a college student that had been out all night partying with his girlfriend,and waiting for his grant check to come in so he could buy a new car?

Buck,I used to have to ride 3 different city buses to get back and forth to work every day. Took me over a hour and a half each day,and this was after working 10 hours in a body shop at a Cadillac dealer. No such thing as lightweight fenders,doors,and bumpers to wrestle with. I was beat too,and riding by myself. Yet nobody attacked me,and if they had,I assure you I wouldn't have been too tired to fight back.

He was no nearer to having a knife ready for this or any situation..

Knife HAND,Buck,not knife. That is jabbing with your hand while your fingers are held closely together and rigid. Only good for soft spots like eyes,throats and testicles,but really,really effective when applied right.

The victim was on his way home. He was probably lulled to sleep based on the hum-drum sounds of the train as he was sped to his designed destination.

HorseHillary! Only dead people are lacking enough energy to fight back to defend themselves. He was and is a rabbit. One of natures natural victims.

You or anyone else can not be prepared for the unexpected all the time.

Have you ever been in an actual fight? It's called "reacting",not being prepared. MY natural inclination when someone hits me is to remove their freaking head from their shoulders. It requires no planning. You just do it.

Of course, you immediately left since you unprepared.

Who was unprepared? We weren't expecting it,and that is not the same thing as being unprepared. Nobody in a bar with a fragmentation grenade and a 45 auto is unprepared. Maybe a touch over-prepared,if anything.

Serious?

Oh,yeah.If you don't want to get bit,don't be attacking the dog.

That is quite a tall tale, there.

It's ok with me if you don't believe it.

I don't believe it. If you go into a bar, you are planning to relax.

We WERE relaxed. We were in perfect control of the situation at all times. We were relaxed when we left,too.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-29   17:17:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: buckeroo (#54)

Yeah, that "turn your other cheek" stuff doesn't work in modern America in the inner cities and on publick transportation.

Some would say that means they get one free shot not many. Since it says cheek and not cheeks.

If someone hit me I would hit them back. Probably several times over would be the goal.

Some things seem right to us but really aren't right.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-29   18:14:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: sneakypete (#53)

One example. They say there is no Hell. Good point!

After all,what good is Christian Love and Understanding without a Hell being available?

I gave that example because it is clear cut.

So you think people shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. Especially since all anyone has to do to get out of it is admit they were wrong and ask for forgiveness. That is't to hard of a hurdle.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-29   18:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: buckeroo (#58)

All Christian faiths, denominations, sects, cults claim to be the TRUE religion of Jesus. Which one shall we pick from to get me or you or anyone else to GOD, the almighty?

If they say they are followers of Christ. Then you should read what Christ said in the Bible. The King James is reliable. Others may be as well. But anyway if they do things that are contrary to the teaching and claim something different. Then you know that they are not following Christ. I'm not talking about people who make mistakes and fall and get back up. I"m talking doctrine.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-03-29   18:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#70)

That is't to hard of a hurdle.

It is when you are dead.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-29   22:06:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: sneakypete (#56)

ALL violent crimes against people are hate crimes.

No, not according to the definition de jure of hate crimes.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-03-29   22:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: SOSO (#73)

ALL violent crimes against people are hate crimes.

No, not according to the definition de jure of hate crimes.

You can call a tricycle a Buick too,but that doesn't mean you can take one out and drive it down the interstate.

I've even heard people describe Manchelle Obomber as "beautiful",too. People make all sorts of foolish claims.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-30   6:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: buckeroo (#51)

"The other thugs were nothing more than "backup" for any struggle."

And they may be armed. You need to be aware of everyone around you in a situation like that.

There was a recent story where some guy and his girlfriend did an armed robbery (or something) and ran into a convenience store. A customer, who was carrying concealed, sneaked up behind the guy. He never saw the girlfriend who sneaked up behind him and shot him in the back of the head, killing him instantly.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-03-30   10:19:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: sneakypete (#74)

People make all sorts of foolish claims.

Well there is a difference though when the claim is made by the AG of the U.S.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-03-30   16:47:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: misterwhite (#75)

He [the customer] never saw the girlfriend who sneaked up [snuck up] behind him and shot him in the back of the head, killing him instantly.

How does anyone know that? Voodoo maejiic or Houdini weird science?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-03-30   20:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: SOSO (#76)

Well there is a difference though when the claim is made by the AG of the U.S.

You do have a point with that one.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-03-31   4:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: A K A Stone (#47)

That is judging everyone of them for the actions of some of them.

Ok Stone. Let''s approach the subject like this. You hate all homo's and lump them all together into the same stereotypical group. So which neighborhood would you feel safer walking through after dark: the gay neighborhood or the black one?

Logsplitter  posted on  2015-03-31   7:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Logsplitter (#79)

"So which neighborhood would you feel safer walking through after dark: the gay neighborhood or the black one?"

Who would you feel safer taking a shower with -- a gay man or a black man?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-03-31   9:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: misterwhite (#80)

Keep your bathhouse fantasies to yourself, whitey.

Logsplitter  posted on  2015-03-31   13:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: SOSO (#76)

Well there is a difference though when the claim is made by the AG of the U.S.

Good point, SOSO.

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out damned spot  posted on  2015-03-31   22:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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