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Title: Vegas mom blames bullying, school district for daughter’s suicide
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Review Journal
URL Source: http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l ... ol-district-daughter-s-suicide
Published: Mar 6, 2015
Author: KIMBERLY DE LA CRUZ
Post Date: 2015-03-06 15:55:56 by BobCeleste
Keywords: homeschool
Views: 3805
Comments: 24
Natika Bird says bullying killed her teenage daughter. Carla Jamerson, who was 14, will never get her driver’s license, graduate from high school or fulfill her dream of becoming a scientist. She committed suicide in the downstairs bathroom of the home she shared with her mother, father and 9-year-old sister on the night of Feb. 27. Bird said her oldest daughter’s death could have and should have been prevented. She said she cannot recall a time when Jamerson was not picked on by her classmates, from kindergarten to middle school. It was especially terrible at Canarelli Middle School in southwest Las Vegas, the school Jamerson most recently attended, Bird said. At one point, students at the school created a Facebook page in Jamerson’s name to spread rumors of pregnancy and sexual promiscuity. “They massacred her,” Bird said Thursday.
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She said she cannot recall a time when Jamerson was not picked on by her classmates, from kindergarten to middle school. Had Bird loved her daughter more, she would have home schooled her.
You saved me some typing. I was ready to post virtually the same words.
You saved me some typing. I was ready to post virtually the same words. Great minds oft times think alike
Had Bird loved her daughter more, she would have home schooled her. Tho I agree this would have been a better solution than her daughters brainstorm, homeschooling has its downsides. Children benefit from interacting with other children. Mom can't shelter her for her whole life. Mom would have been better off shoving her daughter out of the nest and conditioning her child to deal better with the harsh realities of life. Bullying has been going on since the beginning of man... it's only within the last century that so many opt a permanent vacation for such a temporary condition. Our society has been weakened. This mother helped with the pussification of this child... and homeschooling just might have weakened this child just a little more. She should have taught her child to bitch slap the girl or girls that were running their mouths. Stand up to a bully, and even if you lose, they often times leave you alone.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
"So hold on for your life
There are times when one or a few people are targeted within a peer group for constant bullying. In such a case they have little choice but to suffer or to withdraw. Or to kill some of the bully ringleaders or otherwise find ways to make their lives miserable. I can't believe you are unacquainted with these situations.
I've dealt with bullies, both growing up and professionally during my years as a LEO. I was taught to stand up to them. Which worked for me. I was bullied little, I was naturally a big guy. I was wrestling 215 in 8th grade and had to lose 25 pounds every year to make 215 up until I graduated. I was bench pressing 350 my senior year. When I entered the police academy at 29 I was 245. When I graduated I was 206. When I retired at 49, I was 250... and I can still press over 300 pounds off my chest. I did however experience one bully, prior to high school graduation, who ran around in a group of douche bags, intimidated by numbers... they tried to pick a fight at the public pool, one summer. Weeks later, I watched him closely, and confronted him away from his friends in a public park. I knocked the shit out of him. Last his little Gang bothered me. As a LEO, most victims of a bully was relatively weak. Both physically and mentally. Their parents were the same. Most situations worked thrnselves out and I found they did so quicker if the victim grew a set of balls. After all, as an officer, I can't protect that kid his whole life.. he or she has got to step up to the plate sooner or later. We've been pussified as a culture. Pathetically weak in nature. It's a byproduct of liberalism. Let the kids fight... I taught both my children to take no shit. My daughter is a 4th grade school teacher at a private catholic school. My son is my size... both will take a stand or protect each other.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I was small, wiry and kinda geeky. The school was a tough farm school. You'd have stuff like upperclassmen turning over their class rings so they could pop the 9th grade boys on the head at any time for any reason, including just being bored. Kids got molested on school buses including the sports buses. I recall one of my classmates having a napalm-like mixture applied to his genitals and he ended up in the sheriff's office with his dad while his pubic hair got cut off. A few of us weren't going to have it. They were vulnerable and never knew it. You'd be surprised how many truly rotten things you can do to people when you start to give it some thought. Are they locking their gas caps to keep the sugar out during their football game? Do they remember to check that the lug nuts on the tires of their school cars are still tight? Do they check the oil level in their engine every time they start it? How do they feel if one of the bullies gets his legs utterly crushed and a few people show up to stand vigil at the hospital while he is at death's door and they know that the watchers do not want that person to survive? I start to get upset when I think about that school. And, like I said, I was virtually unbullied. Because they knew what I would do. So I suppose we are in some agreement on dealing with bullies. Being small and liking science and reading, I resorted to methods other than thumping them because I wasn't big enough to thump them like you were. By the time my class graduated from high school, all that organized physical bullying was gone from the school. Needless to say, they know better than to invite me to class reunions, given my opinion of those assholes.
home schooled kids have tons of interaction with other kids, sports, advanced classes in public schools, church and home school gatherings, etc.
Not all homeschool homes are as structured, outside the home as that. Some aren't even religious... but I'm sure many find other, healthy ways for their kids to interact with others, like you suggested.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I cannot speak to non Christian home school curriculum or agendas, outside interaction with other kids, etc. BUT I do know and can speak to Christian home schooling. Christian home schools involve outside activities. Bob
We had bullying but nothing too severe. Some schools seem to like minor bullying/hazing as part of some culture - some I see online think it makes kids stronger - I am of the opinion it does more harm than good. Hazing and bulling are not really the same thing. Bullies are those that beat up on the weak for personal gain (steal money or emotional gratification) and hazing is a group ritual designed to accept outsiders. With that said I think they do mor eharm than good and I think both have outlived their usefulness.
LEO are offical bullies of the state.
I shanked a bigger than me bully in high school in the head. It did not penetrate his skull (it was a blunt pointed metal rivet set from shop class) but I drew blood and gave him a concussion. Because I did that and because his pals who he would have asked to jump me knew some of my pals who would have jumped me there was no follow up fight. I still have the shank. With that said, thank God I did not have an ice pick or a gun or a knife on me or I would have killed the kid and maybe others involved and it would have ruined my life and the life of others.
About ten years ago my friend's middle school daughter was getting bullied...at least by one other girl. He gave her the advice you suggest above. The bullying ended but he wound up (maybe with her) going to anger management training. I guess it happened on school grounds or the school bus, so the officials had to do something about it.
Still, a valuable lesson. I'd rather my children too angry than than weak and suicidal.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
We had a girl in our class in junior high who was just starting to develop Parkinsons. Her father was already virtually disabled by it and her brother was starting to show signs. Apparently Parkinsons has a genetic link in some families. In seventh grade, the guys in my class who were always acting like any contact with a girl meant they should start wiping their hands on each other and yelling "germ-free!" started in on her because of her Parkinson's tremors. If she even walked near them, they would jump backwards like she was a biohazard and yell "germ-free!". I made an effort to sit by her in home room and to talk to her and treat her like a normal person. The other girls in our class didn't seem to bully her but they didn't really like her either. Is that bullying? Did it make her "tougher"? Of course, the school staff was cowardly. And the parents never knew or they would have thumped those kids hard for pulling this crap on her. I've never been sure if I was in a school of bullies or what. I have no idea what other schools in the area/state/nation were like. We all see these things through the lens of personal experience.
I've never been sure if I was in a school of bullies or what. I have no idea what other schools in the area/state/nation were like. We all see these things through the lens of personal experience. I went to a boys Catholic HS. So the cruelty factor was a notch higher IMO. There was a fellow student who was undergoing cancer treatments so he was bald for most of two years of HS. But he was a big teen and worked out a lot with weights. One day while at lunch in the cafeteria some football player started badgering him and called him "Henry" from the comic strip character. He took it in stride and sat back down with us. The idiots kept badgering him, so "Henry" did a nice right hook cross on the biggest football player knocking him down. The priests, lay teachers and one nun came over to break up the fight. "Henry" got no detention and the football players were given a sermon on "see what happens when you pick on people." After that the nickname "Henry" stuck and he wore it like a badge of honor:)
"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever." (1 Peter 1:23)
You and Ben Carson, eh? Most people don't know that about him.
"Henry" got no detention and the football players were given a sermon on "see what happens when you pick on people." A relatively happy ending for him. But not everyone is big or athletic or good with their fists. For me, confronting bullies physically wasn't much of an option because I wasn't big and I was a year younger than the rest of my class to begin with.
Speaking of striking back at bullies: WaPo: Russia’s anti-American fever goes beyond the Soviet era’s Check it out, very funny stuff.
WaPo: Russia’s anti-American fever goes beyond the Soviet era’s Check it out, very funny stuff. I read that - LOL because America press is a love fest for Russia these days.
You and Ben Carson, eh? Most people don't know that about him. I view what I had to do with disgust. That was the one and only incident I had at the school give or take.
That was one hell of a reset Russia got from Old Crusty. "We worked hard to get the right Russian word. Do you think we got it?" she asked Lavrov, laughing. “You got it wrong," said Lavrov, as both diplomats laughed. “It should be “perezagruzka” [the Russian word for reset]," said Lavrov."This says ‘peregruzka,’ which means ‘overcharged.’” A quick comeback – and recovery – from Clinton: "We won't let you do that to us, I promise. We mean it and we look forward to it."
Bird said her oldest daughter’s death could have and should have been prevented.
#2. To: BobCeleste (#1)
Had Bird loved her daughter more, she would have home schooled her.
#3. To: TooConservative (#2)
Had Bird loved her daughter more, she would have home schooled her.
#4. To: BobCeleste (#1)
(Edited)
#5. To: BobCeleste (#0)
because only the strong survive"
youtu.be/ZyefitplFQA?t=51s
#6. To: GrandIsland (#4)
She should have taught her child to bitch slap the girl or girls that were running their mouths. Stand up to a bully, and even if you lose, they often times leave you alone.
#7. To: TooConservative (#6)
(Edited)
I can't believe you are unacquainted with these situations.
#8. To: GrandIsland (#7)
Which worked for me. I was bullied little, I was naturally a big guy.
#9. To: GrandIsland (#4)
homeschooling has its downsides. Children benefit from interacting with other children.
#10. To: BobCeleste (#9)
home schooled kids have tons of interaction with other kids, sports, advanced classes in public schools, church and home school gatherings, etc.
#11. To: GrandIsland (#10)
Not all homeschool homes are as structured, outside the home as that.
#12. To: TooConservative (#8)
#13. To: GrandIsland (#7)
I've dealt with bullies, both growing up and professionally during my years as a LEO.
#14. To: TooConservative (#8)
(Edited)
#15. To: GrandIsland (#7)
She should have taught her child to bitch slap the girl or girls that were running their mouths. Stand up to a bully, and even if you lose, they often times leave you alone.
#16. To: Fred Mertz (#15)
About ten years ago my friend's middle school daughter was getting bullied...at least by one other girl. He gave her the advice you suggest above. The bullying ended but he wound up (maybe with her) going to anger management training.
#17. To: Pericles, GrandIsland (#12)
We had bullying but nothing too severe. Some schools seem to like minor bullying/hazing as part of some culture - some I see online think it makes kids stronger - I am of the opinion it does more harm than good.
#18. To: TooConservative (#17)
Of course, the school staff was cowardly. And the parents never knew or they would have thumped those kids hard for pulling this crap on her.
#19. To: Pericles (#14)
I shanked a bigger than me bully in high school in the head.
#20. To: redleghunter (#18)
One day while at lunch in the cafeteria some football player started badgering him and called him "Henry" from the comic strip character. He took it in stride and sat back down with us. The idiots kept badgering him, so "Henry" did a nice right hook cross on the biggest football player knocking him down. The priests, lay teachers and one nun came over to break up the fight.
#21. To: Pericles (#14)
#22. To: TooConservative (#21)
Speaking of striking back at bullies:
#23. To: TooConservative (#19)
I shanked a bigger than me bully in high school in the head.
#24. To: Pericles (#22)
I read that - LOL because America press is a love fest for Russia these days.
"I would like to present you with a little gift that represents what President Obama and Vice President Biden and I have been saying and that is: 'We want to reset our relationship, and so we will do it together.' ...
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