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Title: Americans are turning away from organized religion in record numbers
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URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/ ... ed-religion-in-record-numbers/
Published: Mar 2, 2015
Author: Lynn Parramore
Post Date: 2015-03-06 12:42:16 by Willie Green
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With fire-breathing religion figuring anew in global conflicts, and political discussions at home often dominated by the nuttery of the Christian right, you might get the sense that somebody’s god is ready to mug you around every street corner. But if you’re the type who doesn’t like to hang your hat on organized religion, here’s a bit of good news: in America, your numbers are growing. There are more religiously unaffiliated people in the U.S. today than ever before. Starting in the 1980s, a variety of polls using different methodologies have come to the same conclusion: people who do not identify with religious labels are on the rise, perhaps even doubling in that time frame. Some call them “nones”: agnostics, atheists, deists, secular humanists, general humanists, and people who just don’t care to identify with any religious group. It’s not exactly correct to call them nonbelievers, because some still have faith and spirituality in some sense or another. A 2012 Pew study noted that 30 percent of these people believe in “God or universal spirit” and around 20 percent even pray every day. But according to the latest research, Americans checking the “none of the above” box will make up an increasingly important force in the country. Other groups, like born-again evangelicals, have grown more percentage-wise, but the nones have them beat in absolute numbers. The nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute has documented this sea change in its American Values Atlas, which it released last Wednesday. The fascinating study provides demographic, religious and political data based on surveys conducted throughout 2014. According to PRRI director of research Dan Cox, “The U.S. religious landscape is undergoing a dramatic transformation that is fundamentally reshaping American politics and culture.” Last year, for the very first time, Protestants lost their majority status in the Institute’s annual report, making up only 47 percent of those surveyed. The religiously unaffiliated, who come in at 22 percent, boast numbers on par with major religious groups like American Catholics. All told, the unaffiliated is the second-largest group in the country. It was also the most common group chosen by residents in 13 states, with the largest share (a third or more) in Washington, Oregon and New Hampshire. In Ohio and Virginia, this group was tied for first place. The unaffiliated don’t find too many like-minded folks down in Mississippi, however, where they make up only 10 percent of the population. The study also found that there are 15 states where the unaffiliated constitute the second-largest group. So what do we know about these people? Nones tend to be more politically liberal — three-quarters favor same-sex marriage and legal abortion. They also have higher levels of education and income than other groups. While about one out of five Americans is unaffiliated, the number is much higher among young people: Pew research shows that a third of Americans under 30 have no religious affiliation. Harvard professor Robert Putnam, who studies religion, thinks the trend among younger people is part of their general lack of interest in community institutions and institutions in general. Last year, the Washington Post ran an article citing research by Allen Downey, a professor of computer science at Massachusetts’ Olin College of Engineering, who claims that people become nones mainly for two reasons: lack of religious upbringing (OMG those hippie parents!) and… the Internet. According to Downey, as much as 20 percent of unaffiliation is attributable to Internet use. He found that between 1990 and 2010, the share of Americans claiming no religious affiliation grew from 8 percent to 18 percent while the number of Americans surfing the Web jumped from almost nothing to 80 percent. But he acknowledges, as his critics are quick to point out, that correlation does not causation make. One thing is certain: voting nones are making their presence felt in politics. They are thought to have helped Obama win a second term. But the GOP doesn’t seem to show many signs of reducing the outsized influence of white evangelicals, who represent only 18 percent of the population, at least publicly. Just a couple of weeks ago, presidential hopeful Scott Walker could be seen refusing to answer a question about evolution, as if embracing widely accepted science would make him an apostate. Ordained Southern Baptist Mike Huckabee, also making noises of running, just released a book titled God, Guns, Grits, and Gravy, which kind of makes the Lord sound like the Great Bubba in the sky. But on the secretive big money donor trail, which all serious candidates must follow, the only religion they’ll be talking about much is free market fundamentalism. Your libertarians, your supply siders, and your various fatcats care a whole lot more about their bank accounts than any spiritual reckonings. Getting the government out of their way to leave them to their plundering is their holy scripture. But when talking to voters, the GOP really can’t afford to tone it down, because while monied elites tend to be secular, selling free-market pillage to the people getting robbed is not a very effective strategy. So they still have to mask their agenda behind appeals to popular religion so the non-rich will vote against their economic interests in places like Tennessee, which has the highest share of white evangelicals, at 43 percent. (White mainline Protestants account for 14 percent of the population nationally.) As you might expect, the fact that religion is losing its grip on the daily lives of Americans is freaking a lot of people out. The New York Times’ David Brooks is quite alarmed, admonishing nones that “secularism has to do for nonbelievers what religion does for believers — arouse the higher emotions, exalt the passions in pursuit of moral action.” Of course, secularists only form one portion of the unaffiliated group, but considering that Mr. Brooks likes to wax on about the moral probity of America’s founders — your George Washingtons and so on — he might ask himself which box they might have checked.
Atheist teen girl holding a banner with the inscription-"THERE IS NO GOD" (Shutterstock)
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#12. To: Vicomte13 (#11)
I think you suggest policies you know full well will never happen. You don't do anything to help those policies advance in any way. Then you declare the whole process bankrupt and default to your usual evil-rich-Republican-tycoons-blah-blah-blah which you apparently absorbed via mother's milk or baby formula. In this way, to you Republicans are actually far worse than Dems on abortion and sodomy marriage while the Dems, the constant champions of abortion and sodomy marriage, always get a pass from you despite your occasional pro forma condemnation of the Dems that you utter while still siding with them because their flavor of socialism comports with Rome's favored social gospel nonsense. Even your fairly rare condemnations of the Dems on these matters only occurs when someone directly challenges you about it. It is a pattern so consistent that even Stevie Wonder could see it.
The influence of religion on public life and morals varies considerably over centuries. This was also true of ancient Jewish religious life, not just a corruption of Christian cultures and countries. Islam has had its more tolerant and repressive eras as well. For instance, as recently as the Seventies, Iranian women wore makeup, short dresses, no head scarves and looked like Western women and no one thought a thing about it. This was true across the Mideast. Forcing women into the hijab and the burkha is largely a phenomenon of the last 25 years, a reactionary stance of Islamic fundamentalism as it came to power.
In this way, to you Republicans are actually far worse than Dems on abortion and sodomy marriage while the Dems, the constant champions of abortion and sodomy marriage, always get a pass from you despite your occasional pro forma condemnation of the Dems that you utter while still siding with them because their flavor of socialism comports with Rome's favored social gospel nonsense. Even your fairly rare condemnations of the Dems on these matters only occurs when someone directly challenges you about it. It is a pattern so consistent that even Stevie Wonder could see it. And I think you think of yourself as a savvy intelligent person of principle who has concluded that, for the general good, it is important to resort to "the art of the possible". My impression of you is different.
...which in the first case is hostile toward Christianity; In the second case they often seem to evolve into an nihilism and resentment, joining forces with the first group of reprobates. When it comes to economic issues, religious progressives are actually more passionate than other liberals about eradicating income inequality; the study found that 88 percent of religious progressives said that the government should do more to help the poor, more than any other group polled. IOW, they feel gubmint tyrants and despots should steal and redistribute wealth on their behalf. "Religious" in the context of "Progressives" is an oxymoron.
Frankly, a pretty equitable economic balance has been struck in America for at least the last 60 years (until an unconstitutional socialist/communistic gubmint began confiscating the blood and sweat of others through coercion and tyranny.) Charity begins in the home -- NOT via DC or your State Legislatures.
Well now -- is "Gay Marriage" also as "American as Apple Pie and Thomas Jefferson" as well? Frankly, Jefferson's wisdom in the area of Salvation was found to be sorely lacking. If the "record number" of sheep choose to follow his example, they do so at their own eternal peril.
I don't think many believed me Nostradamus you're not. What's not to believe about an increasingly insanely selfish, disconnected bunch of bleating narcissistic fools who are "losing my religion"? (btw -- CULTS don't count.) IF left to the vain devices of their own will, let 'em be their own gods. Have at it. After all, 80-85 years on this earth is practically FOREVER!....OH, WAIT.
No dumbass, homosexual marriage isn't isn't even human. "I KNOW BUT ONE CODE OF MORALITY FOR MEN WHETHER ACTING SINGLY OR COLLECTIVELY" Frankly, if the religiously petrified McSheeple hadn't allowed state-establishing Eunuchs to castrate their ability to place human morality in the context of several billion years of heterosexual evolution, you might be up to speed on that.
Au contraire -- the objects of Progressive's religious worship are simply whatever the technocratic utopia manages to produce before the Creator gives it over ala Romans 1:25+, again. With the Eunuch's Pharaoh (Sun-prince) perched atop the state-established temple/pyramid, Egypt was very progressive in its day. So was Rome. Same old Ba'alshyte, different municipal toilet.
Not to be too much of a smartass but, as I recall, Jefferson was instrumental in writing the sodomy laws of the new state of Massachusetts. He was not at all soft on sodomy. MA was often a model legislature that other states regularly copied in areas of law.
On the right track, but unfortunately castration wouldn't have had an impact upon the self-evident predisposition for human biology to produce reproductively inert worker bees in the context of severe environmental stress. I suspect the Eunuch's running the Pharaoh's pyramid scheme were aware of that natural consequence -- and exploited it for their own religious propagation. www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fr...e/secrets-of-the-vatican/ Same ol' Ba'alshyte, different municipal toilet.
Egypt was not the only monarchy that used eunuchs as key servants of the state, most often from slave backgrounds. Islam and other empires made extensive use of eunuchs in government.
Egypt was not the only monarchy that used eunuchs as key servants of the state The world’s first city developed around its temples, and only later did palaces play a role. Its view of the world was conditioned, as in all ancient societies, by totalitarian religious belief. So the picture that comes into focus is that of a theocratic command economy, hierarchically organized , centrally directed, and regulated according to an ideology propagated by a priesthood, playing the role that, 5,000 years later, Soviet Marxists would call ‘the engineers of human souls’. Such was temple rule. Kriwaczek, Paul (2012-03-27). Babylon: Mesopotamia and the Birth of Civilization (p. 53). St. Martin's Press. Kindle Edition. Yep. Such was temple rule. Evidently at some point the Eunuch's took over the state- established asylum.
Don't shoot the messenger. It is what it is. No amount of individual faith will change that fact. It's not all bad tho, IMHO, religion will never completely die. It's been here since the beginning of man... and will be here till the last one is breathing.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
A natural outgrowth of the harem system actually. If the sultan or emperor could trust his harem to the eunuchs, he could find other uses for them as well. And the eunuchs would have no family connections, no axes to gore other than service to the Grand Poobah of the current regime. Civil government was often dominated by these eunuchs of the ancient empires. This persisted until relatively modern times in the Islamic world.
"And some were by birth." It obviously still persists in the Vatican - regardless of whatever plumage the CaeSARean sun-parrots try to wear in public.
I think you know that most eunuchs were castrati, not congenitally deformed or asexual types which are quite rare in nature.
That must be news to the majority of the individuals in any bee colony. Who would be a more obedient worker-bee in the state-established hive: a castrati or... www.google.com/? gws_rd=ss...nsensitivity+syndrome+XXY I think the occult religious hive-masters knew more about procreating their state-establishing ilk than just wielding a knife.
Wiki: Castrato A castrato singing After the unification of Italy in 1861, castration for musical purposes was officially made illegal (the new Italian state had adopted a French legal code which expressly forbade the practice). In 1878, Pope Leo XIII prohibited the hiring of new castrati by the church: only in the Sistine Chapel and in other papal basilicas in Rome did a few castrati linger. In other words, until the Italians finally formed a unified country in the 1860's -- in part by locking the pope in his palace where he pouted for the next 60 years until they pretended he was a monarch and could conduct foreign policy again -- the castrato persisted and boys were maimed to prepare them for this shameful role. The castrato recording sounds kinda screechy to me. I'd take the modern Italian operatic tenor or modern pop/rock tenors any day. The last sad Vatican castrato who sang the audio clip above:
We're not discussing apiculture.
"The Fight to be Male" " Several instances are showed in the film that try to demonstrate the influence of hormones in the behavior of humans."
Bee colonies aren't part of nature? Evidently not so rare among colonizing insects. I wonder how rare it was in Delphic culture...
Hell hath no fury as young people being told not to be promiscuous, not to abort their kids, take the oath of marriage seriously, stay sober, focus more on the spiritual over the wordly, obey the 10 Commandments, live a clean honest life.......... To all of these callings the young people of the U.S. simply say.......F*CK YOU. I like them a lot. Don't you?
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
‹sigh› Eunuchs are not insects.
Evidently not as rare in nature as you assert. Care to rephrase? Nonetheless, they modeled their state-establishments after the insects they kept.
I don't think you can produce an iota of evidence that eunuchs and their role was established by rulers creating a system based on insects. It sounds daft. We've reached the 'jumping the shark' phase, it seems.
Regardless of what inspired them, the role the religious Eunuch Sun-Parrots had in mind for their obediently pacified (and tything) McSheeple is plainly self-evident among the various corporal state-establishments they've managed to temporaly concoct throughout history. What do you think the religious con-artists in the territory of Deseret had in mind for the bee-hive state? Got Reformed Egyptian?
Now the question is: Will they replace organized mythology with reason and serious evaluation of prudence and consequent conditions to actions, or will the merely substitute a new mythology of licensed self indulgence and self destruction.
They were not connected to the roles of eunuchs in medieval and ancient empires.
Quack, waddle... www.google.com/? gws_rd=ssl#q=Delphic+prostitutes https://www.google.com/? gws_rd=ssl#q=XXY+body+hair Is that a hairless occult duck being sold by the Eunuch money changers upon their temporal steps?
Stop changing the subject. You merely flit from one search result to the next with a lot of distractions. Since you're turning this thread into your own Fun With Google weekend excursion, I'll leave you to it.
Who needs organized religion?
The subject is religious eunuchs and their occult manipulation of the collective McFleeced within their purview -- with all the oblivious worker bees, obediently depositing coin in the hive's plate.
You'll have to pardon my asking the obvious: Do you kinda recall the 200 years or so that Americans -- right on up through around 1965 -- attended church fairly regularly? And prayer was often recited in public school? When academia actually promoted divinity studies -- instead of Tranny Orifice Instruction 101?? Let's pinpoint the year the whole shebang began devolving into the current chaos and insanity: 1963. The name Madelyn O'Hair ring a bell? Timothy Leary? It took just another THREE years before America began getting dismantled, and God declared "Dead" by Time Magazine in 1966. Now the question is: Will they replace organized mythology with reason and serious evaluation of prudence and consequent conditions to actions, or will the merely substitute a new mythology of licensed self indulgence and self destruction. Astute questions, very nicely articulated, Perfessor. I'm sure Kumbaya-Time will then soon be upon us were your wish granted. OH WAIT -- Would you like a bag o' chips with your secular humanist fantasy that's NOW become YOUR reality and OUR current nightmare?? ANY intellectual honest historian and cultural observer would readily admit that the glue that's held this nation together for 200 or so years has been "organized religions," that is to say, the Biblical/Christian ethic. Refutation, Perfessor?
Now I'm wondering if I have any chips in the house. BRB. : )
No dumbass, homosexual marriage isn't isn't even human. Given your attention span of a gnat, Doofus, let me remind you that "Gay Marriage" was in quotation marks. And it's NOT that a "human" thing; It's a language thing. And a lie. (Jefferson): "I KNOW BUT ONE CODE OF MORALITY FOR MEN WHETHER ACTING SINGLY OR COLLECTIVELY" Out of curiosity, have you rummaged through your extensive Tommy Jefferson Fan Club paraphernalia and pom-poms to discern EXACTLY the derivation of his "One Code of Morality"? Frankly, if the religiously petrified McSheeple hadn't allowed state-establishing Eunuchs to castrate their ability to place human morality in the context of several billion years of heterosexual evolution, you might be up to speed on that. First, you'd have to further define "religious," Sparky. In the meantime, you're blaming the electorate for trusting what has become a rogue globalist secular humanist gubmint that's become hostile to both the USCON and Christianity? Or do you mean Fundies? Catholics? Baptists? (white or black?) Secular Humanists? (yes, they are "religious") Statists? (yes, they too are "religious") New Agers? Atheists? The disturbing truth is that Tommy Jeff has contributed to making us the victims of The Law of Unintended Consequences. Without God as our moral underpinnings (and NO, not just your same ol' Romans 1:25 spamming), Jefferson's obsession with undercutting the Bible-based moral foundation has evolved into the current confused, divided and conquered MESS. And America MIGHT have survived the current secular humanist insanity.
I've noticed you've been at the top of your comedic game today. :-) (and yes, I DO have chips in the house - woof-woof!)
A simple assertion from a simple man.
Lol...You're rolling.
I think you know the Eunuchs presently perching upon the Vatican's temporal steps are not castrati. www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fr...e/secrets-of-the-vatican/ "For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others--and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it." --Matthew 19:12 Kingdom of Heaven my arse.
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#13. To: GrandIsland (#10)
I tried telling LP this as far back as 2008.
#14. To: TooConservative (#12)
I think you suggest policies you know full well will never happen. You don't do anything to help those policies advance in any way. Then you declare the whole process bankrupt and default to your usual evil-rich-Republican-tycoons-blah-blah-blah which you apparently absorbed via mother's milk or baby formula.
#15. To: hondo68 (#3)
The religion of Progressive Communism (& Connecticut Socialist Catholics) is on the rise...
#16. To: Vicomte13 (#5)
#17. To: VxH (#9)
Turning away from organized religion in record numbers....[is] as American as Apple Pie and Thomas Jefferson...
#18. To: GrandIsland (#10)
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I tried telling LP this as far back as 2008.
#19. To: Liberator (#17)
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Well now -- is "Gay Marriage" also as "American as Apple Pie and Thomas Jefferson" as well?
#20. To: Liberator (#15)
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"Religious" in the context of "Progressives" is an oxymoron.
#21. To: Liberator (#17)
Frankly, Jefferson's wisdom in the area of Salvation was found to be sorely lacking.
#22. To: TooConservative (#21)
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He was not at all soft on sodomy.
#23. To: VxH (#22)
I suspect the Eunuch's running the Pharaoh's pyramid scheme were aware of that natural consequence -- and exploited it for their own religious propagation.
#24. To: TooConservative (#23)
#25. To: Liberator (#18)
#26. To: VxH (#24)
Evidently at some point the Eunuch's took over the state- established asylum.
#27. To: TooConservative (#26)
And the eunuchs would have no family connections,
This persisted until relatively modern times in the Islamic world.
#28. To: VxH (#27)
"And some were by birth."
#29. To: TooConservative (#28)
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asexual types which are quite rare in nature.
#30. To: VxH, Liberator, A Pole, redleghunter (#28)
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The last great operatic castrato was Giovanni Battista Velluti (1781–1861), who performed the last operatic castrato role ever written: Armando in Il crociato in Egitto by Meyerbeer (Venice, 1824). Soon after this they were replaced definitively as the first men of the operatic stage by a new breed of heroic tenor, as first incarnated by the Frenchman Gilbert-Louis Duprez, the earliest so-called "king of the high Cs". His successors have included such singers as Enrico Tamberlik, Jean de Reszke, Francesco Tamagno, Enrico Caruso, Giovanni Martinelli, Beniamino Gigli, Jussi Björling, Franco Corelli and Luciano Pavarotti, among others.
Alessandro Moreschi performs part of Eugenio Terziani's Hostias et preces 
#31. To: VxH (#29)
That must be news to the majority of the individuals in any bee colony.
#32. To: TooConservative (#30)
http://www.watchfreemovies.ch/watch-tv- shows/1964/watch-horizon-99409377/season-15/episode-20/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218 233/
#33. To: TooConservative (#31)
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We're not discussing apiculture.
" not congenitally deformed or asexual types which are quite rare in nature."
#34. To: TooConservative, Willie Green (#2)
The churches of America have been judged by the young people and been found wanting.
#35. To: VxH (#33)
#36. To: TooConservative (#35)
asexual types which are quite rare in nature."
Eunuchs are not insects.
#37. To: VxH (#36)
Nonetheless, they modeled their state-establishments after the insects they kept.
#38. To: TooConservative (#37)
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I don't think you can produce an iota of evidence that eunuchs and their role was established by rulers creating a system based on insects.
Oh - What / who were the Delphic Bees?
#39. To: Willie Green (#0)
Americans are turning away from organized religion in record numbers
Good
#40. To: VxH (#38)
Oh - What / who were the Delphic Bees?
#41. To: TooConservative (#40)
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They were not connected to the roles of eunuchs in medieval and ancient empires.
#42. To: VxH (#41)
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#43. To: Willie Green (#0)
#44. To: TooConservative (#42)
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Stop changing the subject.
#45. To: rlk (#39)
Americans are turning away from organized religion in record numbers
Good
#46. To: Liberator (#45)
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Would you like a bag o' chips...
#47. To: Liberator (#45)
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ANY intellectual honest historian and cultural observer would readily admit that the glue that's held this nation together for 200 or so years has been "organized religions," that is to say, the Biblical/Christian ethic.
Remind us -- what herd of religiously bleating parrots was the drafter of the Declaration of Independence part of?
"... who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men , have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
What bound America together was the freedom to contradict the religiously tyrannical errors of its former state-established owners.
#48. To: VxH (#19)
Well now -- is "Gay Marriage" also as "American as Apple Pie and Thomas Jefferson" as well?
#49. To: TooConservative (#46)
Now I'm wondering if I have any chips in the house. BRB. : )
#50. To: VxH (#47)
What bound America together was the freedom to contradict the religiously tyrannical errors of its former state-established owners.
#51. To: TooConservative (#42)
#52. To: TooConservative (#28)
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I think you know that most eunuchs were castrati,
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