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Title: For the first time in a 100 years a Russian army fights under the banner of Jesus Christ
Source: sky.com
URL Source: http://news.sky.com/story/1434081/p ... gas-cut-off-smacks-of-genocide
Published: Feb 25, 2015
Author: sky.com
Post Date: 2015-02-25 16:25:31 by Pericles
Keywords: Russia, Ukraine
Views: 7918
Comments: 37

Russian "sepratists" armored column flying a war banner with the face of Jesus Christ. This is something I have never imagined would happen in my lifetime. There is deep significance here.

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http://news.sky.com/story/1434081/putin-ukraine-gas-cut-off-smacks-of-genocide

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A convoy of pro-Russian forces' 2S1 Gvozdika (122-mm self-propelled howitzers) drives from the frontline near the eastern Ukrainian city of Starobeshevo

Pericles  posted on  2015-02-25   16:26:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Pericles  posted on  2015-02-25   16:43:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pericles, GarySpFc, TooConservative, Tomder55 (#2)

A few notes to pass on to your friends on the gunline.

1. They need to swab the interior of the breech block after every round fired. They are not and it is a safety hazard for the crew. Too many flames coming out of the bore evacuator after each round. Which means no swabbing the tube.

2. The 2S1 can fire with or without putting spades down. In the cold it is hard to put the spades down (I know from Korea). But they should use some metal chock blocks to reduce the amount of displacement they are getting after each round.

3. I don't see any collimators nor any aiming poles or stakes. Seriously doubt they have internal GPS fire control systems.

Really wonder how accurate they are considering the above is absent.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-25   16:56:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: redleghunter (#4)

A few notes to pass on to your friends on the gunline.

Thanks a lot, Major Killjoy.

You must have been a lot of fun on maintenance inspections.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-26   0:16:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TooConservative, GarySpFc, liberator (#10)

Thanks a lot, Major Killjoy.

You must have been a lot of fun on maintenance inspections. : )

A General once flew his helicopter over my gun battery location during a live fire exercise. He then landed which shut down our firing status. I was a 1LT Firing Battery XO, unhappy and charged towards the aircraft (not knowing my boss' boss' boss was landing) to 'greet' the offender. After a few choice words were exchanged between me and the flight chief, he pointed to the general in the aircraft. I was still not happy. I knew I could not chew out a general so I let his aid de camp (a 1LT too) have it.

After mustering some calm, I saluted the general told him he stopped my live fire exercise and flying over a firing point is a no-no and the flight crew by his rules should be decertified.

Not happy the general then decided to pick apart my NCOs and Soldiers. He looked at maintenance reports, asked why some of our camo nets were torn etc. And of course two young soldiers just came out of the tree line after going to the field latrine without their helmets on. Of course the Fire Direction officer a 1LT as well, made the call for our boss to come there given this was not a fair fight:)

Needless to say, that is really what a Killjoy does, especially one of high rank who knows he broke his own rules and would not admit it. Of course when my Battery Commander heard this general was on my point no one could reach him by radio.

However, my LTC boss and BN commander came to the rescue. He pulled the general aside for a brief quiet and reasoned discussion (such was not in my 'being' at that age) and the general left immediately. LTC comes up to me and says "LT get back to what you were doing---Steel on target!" And then departed. The general's helicopter took off taking the proper route away from the azimuth of fire.

My story of a Kill Joy:) If it were not for LTC (now retired COL) "X" doing what he did that day, I would have probably exited the Army very early.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   9:51:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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However, my LTC boss and BN commander came to the rescue. He pulled the general aside for a brief quiet and reasoned discussion (such was not in my 'being' at that age) and the general left immediately. LTC comes up to me and says "LT get back to what you were doing---Steel on target!" And then departed. The general's helicopter took off taking the proper route away from the azimuth of fire.

A fun story. No doubt, not exactly an isolated incident.

Hierarchies always get filled with those who make rules but don't expect those rules to be applied to them.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-26   9:56:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TooConservative (#31)

Hierarchies always get filled with those who make rules but don't expect those rules to be applied to them.

Especially General officers living in 'daddy's shadow.' The GO in question was the middle son of a famous US Army General. His brothers Generals also. Dad was so famous they named stuff after him:)

No there's a teaser for you to figure out.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-26   11:02:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#33. To: redleghunter (#32)

Dad was so famous they named stuff after him:)

Sounds like the Stain whose daddy and granddaddy had bases named after them. Real military royalty types.

I can find the Brooks family but that is just a dad and two sons. No third brother.

Most people don't realize how much the military feathers its nest for its elite's offspring.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-02-26 11:27:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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