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Title: Bisexuals hopeful as 1 of their own becomes a governor (friends call her "half queer")
Source: Houston Chronicle
URL Source: http://www.chron.com/news/politics/ ... es-a-6081324.php#photo-7526172
Published: Feb 15, 2015
Author: David Crary
Post Date: 2015-02-15 20:01:35 by Hondo68
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Views: 12566
Comments: 47

In this Sept. 28, 2012 photo, Oregon Secretary of State Kate Brown speaks during an interview in Portland, Ore. The sudden advent of an openly bisexual governor in Oregon may provide a chance to broaden understanding of America's bi community. Photo: Michael Lloyd, AP / The Oregonian
Photo By Michael Lloyd/AP 
In this Sept. 28, 2012 photo, Oregon Secretary of State Kate Brown speaks during an interview in Portland, Ore. The sudden advent of an openly bisexual governor in Oregon may provide a chance to broaden understanding of America's bi community.

NEW YORK (AP) — "LGBT" has become a household term amid sweeping advances for gay rights, and yet the "B'' sometimes seems like an awkward fit. The sudden advent of America's first openly bisexual governor may provide a chance to ease the awkwardness and broaden understanding of the bi community.

Kate Brown, Oregon's secretary of state, is in line to replace Democratic Gov. John Kitzhaber when he steps down Wednesday amid an ethics scandal. Brown, serving her second term after many years in the legislature, lives in Portland with her husband and two stepchildren and has been open throughout her political career about being bisexual.

Her progress has been followed closely by bisexual activists across the country, including Ellyn Ruthstrom, who now serves on the board of Boston-based Bisexual Resource Center after 10 years as its president.

"There are so few bi political leaders out there, so we pay attention to them," said Ruthstrom, citing U.S. Rep. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona as the other prominent example.

Beyond elective politics, the bi community continues to struggle to establish its appropriate place in the broader civil rights campaigns being waged on behalf of lesbians, gays and transgender people.

Within that movement, there was widespread animosity toward bisexuals a couple of decades ago, Ruthstrom said. "Now it's not as overt, but there are still issues."

She cited a phenomenon known as "bi-erasure" — in which bisexuals are not mentioned in speeches, press releases and news reports that refer to the LGT groups.

Ruthstrom said she and her allies have been lobbying major LGBT-rights groups to be fully inclusive of the bisexual community's issues. "They're missing an opportunity to engage," she said, citing research indicating that bisexuals make up about half of the total LGBT population.

Gary Gates, a demographer at the UCLA School of Law's Williams Institute, estimated in 2011 that about 1.8 percent of the adult population, or a little more than 4 million Americans, identifies as bisexual — slightly more than the number identifying as gay or lesbian.

However, Ruthstrom said a majority of bisexuals remain wary of disclosing their sexual orientation, except perhaps to a few close acquaintances, and suffer high rates of depression. A study released by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention two years ago said bisexual women reported a far higher rate of rape, violence and stalking by an intimate partner than either lesbians or heterosexual women.

A vice president of one of the largest LGBT-rights groups, Fred Sainz of the Human Rights Campaign, said bisexuals may in some respects face greater challenges than gays and lesbians.

"To the extent that they're out, they may well be more so the victims of scorn because they get it from both gay and straight people," Sainz said. "Gays want them to make a choice, and straights consider them gay, so in many ways they face increased amounts of stigma and discrimination."

The Human Rights Campaign's legal director, Sarah Warbelow, who is bisexual, said one of the biggest challenges for the bi community is a lack of public understanding of their social lives.

"On one hand, there's assumption that bi people are never happy in any relationship and need to have multiple partners," she said. "On the other hand, you've got people who say it's not real — it's an in-between existence until you figure out who you really are when you grow up."

Brown's pathway to the governor's office opened up as the Human Rights Campaign was convening a conference in Portland devoted to supporting LGBT youth.

"Kate Brown is an incredible role model for bisexual youth, many of whom are grappling with the same issues that Brown dealt with when she came out in the '90s — including feelings of not being understood by family or by their gay peers," said Ellen Kahn, an HRC official helping organize the conference.

Efforts to increase understanding have persisted over many years,

In 2009, for example, activists convened a "Putting the 'B' in LGBT" summit in New York City. In September 2013, the White House convened a meeting with more than 30 bisexual activists — the first such gathering of its kind.

Kate Brown, after entering politics in 1991 as a member of Oregon's House of Representatives, wrote a brief essay for "Out and Elected in the USA" about what it was like for her to come out as bisexual to her parents, her gay and straight friends, and her fellow lawmakers.

Her parents' response: "It would be much easier for us if you were a lesbian." Some gay friends called her "half queer."

"Some days I feel like I have a foot in both worlds, yet never really belonging to either," Brown concluded.


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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Her parents' response: "It would be much easier for us if you were a lesbian." Some gay friends called her "half queer."

She has some really charming parents and "friends" ,doesn't she?

Sounds to me like her parents are embarrassed that she isn't an exclusive homosexual,and fear it hurts their social standing.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-16   6:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sneakypete (#1)

(Her parents' response: "It would be much easier for us if you were a lesbian.")

Sounds to me like her parents are embarrassed that she isn't an exclusive homosexual,and fear it hurts their social standing.

HA! Good call.

The freak's status-conscious parental units:

"WE'RE SO EMBARRASSED. CAN'T YOU JUST CALL YOURSELF A FAGGOT OR LESBO, D*MMIT?!! OUR FRIENDS ON BROADWAY ARE AGHAST AT YOUR 'HALF-QUEER' DESIGNATION!"

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-16   11:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68, redleghunter, CZ82 (#0)

NEW YORK (AP) — "LGBT" has become a household term ...

It has??

Has Ken Burns done his documentary on Paul Lynde yet?

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-16   11:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#1)

No queer is qualified to hold any office.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-16   12:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#0)

So many Republicans and Democrats seem "half queer" these days.

That would explain some of the problem, wouldn't it?

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-16   12:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#4)

No queer is qualified to hold any office.

No queer is qualified to be an adoptive parent either. Or be a judge in a Issue & Referendum case that overturns the votes of millions. Yet, welcome to Bizarro World.

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-16   12:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

The Powers That Run Things must have decided somewhere along the line that "progressivism" is much easier for the hicks and rubes to stomach if we're "eased" in to it.

So the first "person of color" to be (s)elected POTUS is actually just a "half-black". (He is a Communist, though, so they hit a home-run with that one)

Likewise, the first openly homosexual gov is actually only half-queer.

(side note: Mark Levin asks "how do we know this - do we know the sexual orientation of EVERY previous governor?")

Oh well . . . baby steps. You gotta take baby steps.

What a country!

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-02-16   12:05:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

"[Half-Queer] Kate Brown is an incredible role model for bisexual youth..."

Now there's a term (and sentence) we never thought we'd hear in our lifetime.

What does "half-queer" even mean? That the freak "is open-minded to opening (or engaging 'Recepticle Mode') every orifice available"?

Behold: "An incredible role model."

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-16   12:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Liberator (#3)

NEW YORK (AP) — "LGBT" has become a household term ...

In their wildest Orwellian dreams.

"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-16   12:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rufus T Firefly (#7)

The Powers That Run Things must have decided somewhere along the line that "progressivism" is much easier for the hicks and rubes to stomach if we're "eased" in to it.

I object to the phrase, "easing in to" in any queer context ;-)

But yes, the progressives insidious method of systematic brainwashing is definitely a matter of practicing incrementalism. By 2020, some scruffy, balding state Governor will proudly parade his 11 year old "husband" up to the podium, chastising "all the haters."

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-16   12:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: redleghunter (#9)

In their wildest Orwellian dreams.

Ain't it? ;-)

We are governed by psychopaths. If we object to perversity, we're "intolerant and a "hater." Our planet is not quite done plunging into the abyss, is it?

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-16   12:21:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rufus T Firefly (#7)

So the first "person of color" to be (s)elected POTUS is actually just a "half-black". (He is a Communist, though, so they hit a home-run with that one)

HA! AND a half-Muzzie (he's supposedly a "Christian" as well) AND a full-fledged Quisling. By jove, I think we've hit a Grand Slam there, Olde Bean!

(side note: Mark Levin asks "how do we know this - do we know the sexual orientation of EVERY previous governor?")

Good question. ANSWER: ONLY if the orientation was considered a "Mental Illness" by the APA before 1973.

Oh well . . . baby steps. You gotta take baby steps.

Is the lobster pot boiling yet? (it feels like it is, but I'm waiting for Brian Williams to tell me it is)

Liberator  posted on  2015-02-16   12:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#4)

No queer is qualified to hold any office.

Damn shame you weren't around to tell that to George Washington,who hired a homosexual Prussian General to write the training doctrine for the Continental Army,and to write the manual to establish health standards and hygiene at camps that put the Continental Army back on it's feet after so many of them had been down with diseases.

Also a damn shame you weren't around to tell the Greeks that the Alexander homo guy wasn't fit to lead the Greek Army before he conquered most of the known world.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-16   14:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Liberator (#6)

No queer is qualified to be an adoptive parent either.

So,if you had a homosexual brother or sister and you and your wife were killed in some sort of accident,you would rather have your children put up for adoption by strangers than raised by your brother or sister?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-16   14:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter (#9)

NEW YORK (AP) — "LGBT" has become a household term ...

In their wildest Orwellian dreams.

I'd be willing to bet you have homosexual relatives,and that some members of your church are homosexual. You just don't know about it in most cases.

BTW,would you demand a "out" or "outed" homosexual be kicked out of your church?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-16   14:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#13)

You sound just like Hillary.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-16   14:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#15)

I'd be willing to bet you have homosexual relatives,and that some members of your church are homosexual. You just don't know about it in most cases.

You've got Barack Obama down perfectly. Birds of a feather.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-16   14:58:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#15)

BTW,would you demand a "out" or "outed" homosexual be kicked out of your church?

A church member who is an unrepentant homosexual (meaning they are practicing), would be asked to leave the church. Once in communion with God they would be able to come back.

2 Thessalonians 3:6 - Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.

"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-16   15:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: redleghunter (#18)

Pete probably thinks it should be illegal to not hire a queer to be a preacher. I could be wrong though. Sometimes Pete can surprise you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-16   15:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Liberator (#2)

"Sounds to me like her parents are embarrassed that she isn't an exclusive homosexual"

Yep. As it stands, being bi means she'll have sex with anyone. What we used to call a nympho.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-02-16   15:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68, Liberator, redleghunter (#0)

Ruthstrom said she and her allies have been lobbying major LGBT-rights groups to be fully inclusive of the bisexual community's issues. "They're missing an opportunity to engage," she said, citing research indicating that bisexuals make up about half of the total LGBT population.

But what about tolerance?

Oh wait, never mind.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-02-16   19:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: CZ82, Liberator, redleghunter (#21) (Edited)

But what about tolerance?

That comes into play when you vote for the half ghey Republican '16 candidate... or not? The ghey camels nose is already under the GOP tent, with the Willie-Mitt voters.


The GOP's gay marriage dodge


I'm wondering if the South will secede again, this time to get away from queer Yankees?


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-02-16   19:44:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: CZ82 (#21)

Ruthstrom said she and her allies have been lobbying major LGBT-rights groups to be fully inclusive of the bisexual community's issues. "They're missing an opportunity to engage," she said, citing research indicating that bisexuals make up about half of the total LGBT population.

Interesting stats. Wonder if true. Half the LBGT community is bi.

Some baseball terms come to mind.

"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-16   20:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#17)

I'd be willing to bet you have homosexual relatives,and that some members of your church are homosexual. You just don't know about it in most cases.

You've got Barack Obama down perfectly. Birds of a feather.

Is that your way of saying you don't want to talk about your homosexual relatives?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-17   7:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: redleghunter (#18)

A church member who is an unrepentant homosexual (meaning they are practicing), would be asked to leave the church.

Ahhhh,a church that doesn't want sinners and has no forgiveness or understanding.

Nothing new about that,is there?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-17   7:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#19)

Pete probably thinks it should be illegal to not hire a queer to be a preacher.

WRONG!

Your/your Church right to hire whoever you want to hire and to NOT hire who you don't want to hire trumps the rights of any individual to have any job you are offering.

Unless of course your wish comes true and your church becomes a branch of government with the power to dictate to the rest of us. In that case you would have to hire anybody that applies for a job opening. INDIVIDUALS and private organizations have a right to discriminate if they wish,the government doesn't. BTW,your (the collective "you" that makes you a sheep in your flock) clouds the issue with your government tax-free status to provide charity to the needy. That qualifies you as a quasi-governmental agency. I can see a valid argument being made that states this would require your church to comply with all state and feral regulations on hiring,firing,and promotions. Start paying your taxes and I'm on your side when it comes to hiring whoever you want,or helping whoever you want. Or not.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-17   7:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: CZ82 (#21)

But what about tolerance?

Only works one way.

Odd how that works out,ain't it?

Wouldn't you love to see a Kluxxer try to join the NAACP,and demand he either has the right to join a public organization ran as a charity,or they lose their tax-exempt status?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-17   7:36:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#24)

Is that your way of saying you don't want to talk about your homosexual relatives?

Don't have any. We're all normal.

You are not a logical person Pete.

Have you ever had the urge to be a pedophile? Me neither. So they must be born that way. We need the government to strike down laws against pedophiles. They are just born that way.

Hey Pete have you ever had the urge to rape someone? Me neither. We need the government to pass a law to make it legal. It is obvious they are born that way.

Hey Peter. Ever get the urge to kill someone. What you did? Me too. But did you ever act on it? Me neither. So we need the government to get rid of laws against murder too. It's in that cult book the Bible. People are born that way. It's not their fault they are born that way.

Hey Pete you ever get the urge to do it with an animal? Gross huh. But some people are born that way. It shouldn't be illegal right?

Pete that is how stupid you sound when you say faggots are born that way. The excuses you make for them. Lying to yourself again. WAKE THE F UP PETE!

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-17   8:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: sneakypete (#26)

Start paying your taxes

Christian churches will start paying their taxes once 'non-profit' organizations like NFL Football starts.

"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-17   8:49:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#28)

Is that your way of saying you don't want to talk about your homosexual relatives?

Don't have any. We're all normal.

ROFLMAO!

Santa bring you any good stuff this year?

Have you ever had the urge to be a pedophile? Me neither. So they must be born that way.

Of course they are.

We need the government to pass a law to make it legal.

And you call ME illogical???

What is your "logic" going to tell you next,that it should be illegal to be a serial killer? Or a firebug that likes setting fires?

Just because someone is born with strong inclinations/urges to do certain things,that doesn't mean they have a right to act on those urges if it harms others?

MOST of us are sane enough to not equate homosexuality with actual crimes,and as a Christian you are being incredibly hypocritical to condemn them for their sexual orientation.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-17   11:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: redleghunter (#29)

Christian churches will start paying their taxes once 'non-profit' organizations like NFL Football starts.

I see. The NFL cheats,so it's ok for Christian Churches to cheat,too.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-17   11:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#31)

There's not cheating involved at all. That 'wall of separation' works both ways don't you know.

Why should churhes be taxed for using money on church functions such as charity, mission homes and orphanage homes?

Most churches are not for profit.

"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-17   12:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete (#30)

Just because someone is born with strong inclinations/urges to do certain things,that doesn't mean they have a right to act on those urges if it harms others?

Bingo.

No fag marriage. It harms the children. It harms the soul. It harms your ass.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-17   13:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: sneakypete (#30)

And you call ME illogical???

I guess you are really dense and I will have to explain it to you.

I was imitating your positions. Showing you that you are

1. Wrong.

2. inconsistent.

3. A hypocrite.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-17   13:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#30)

MOST of us are sane enough to not equate homosexuality with actual crimes

Let me corrrct that for you since you are taking such a beating today.

Most of us fools who believe in evolution are to stupid and hate the concept of God way to much to ever admit that something is wrong with homos. Afterall they are in my family.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-17   14:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#33)

It harms your ass.

lol... that's some funny shit.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-02-17   14:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: GrandIsland (#36)

lol... that's some funny shit.

:)

Yeah I thought I would throw that in there for a laugh.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-17   14:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: redleghunter (#32)

Why should churhes be taxed for using money on church functions such as charity, mission homes and orphanage homes?

Because almost none of the money they take in goes for those purposes.

Don't believe me? Go to a church where nobody knows you and tell them a SOB story about being broke,hungry,and homeless,and watch them give you a telephone number for a state welfare office.

Most churches are not for profit.

LOL! Good one!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-17   15:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#33)

No fag marriage. It harms the children. It harms the soul. It harms your ass.

It definitely doesn't harm MY ass.

As for the others,prove it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-17   15:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#34)

I guess you are really dense and I will have to explain it to you.

I was imitating your positions.

No,you were comparing apples and watermelons.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-17   15:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#40)

No,you were comparing apples and watermelons.

The actual truth is.

You said because you never had any homosexual desires. That you were born that way. You declared that scientific evidence.

So to be consistent. Your position is that if Pete doesn't behave a certain way and another individual does then they by definition are born that way.

You're boxed in.

Pete it does harm children. Say I'm at the fair and there are two men acting faggotish. My grandson sees it and it harms him. He now might think that is acceptable behavior.

If I see a homo and they tell me they are married. I will rudely inform them that they are not. The truth is on my-side.

YOur acceptance of deviancy is not science.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-17   16:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: sneakypete, TooConservative (#38)

Don't believe me? Go to a church where nobody knows you and tell them a SOB story about being broke,hungry,and homeless,and watch them give you a telephone number for a state welfare office.

Most churches are not for profit.

LOL! Good one!

You have been watching too much cable TV. Like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mVbGpzsuNjE#t=0

"It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:4)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-02-17   16:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone (#41) (Edited)

You said because you never had any homosexual desires. That you were born that way. You declared that scientific evidence.

And.......?

So to be consistent. Your position is that if Pete doesn't behave a certain way and another individual does then they by definition are born that way.

You're boxed in.

Boxed in by what,logic?

Or are you implying we are all machines,put out by God's Factory,Inc to be identical to one another?

Pete it does harm children. Say I'm at the fair and there are two men acting faggotish. My grandson sees it and it harms him.

HOW? Assuming he is a child and not a 22 year old grandson,all he is going to think about it is that it is "icky",just like if he saw a heterosexual couple swapping spit.

He now might think that is acceptable behavior.

ROFLMAO! Even if you told him it was acceptable behavior,if he is a child it will still freak him out or embarrass him. Children aren't emotionally equipped to deal with that sort of thing. They have no sexual urges,and don't understand what is going on.

YOur acceptance of deviancy is not science.

MY "acceptance" of it? WTF died and made ME God? It is not for me to accept or approve of since it has nothing to do with me.

My only concern is that ALL Americans be treated equally under the law,and that we all have the same rights when it comes to the laws of the land.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-17   20:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: sneakypete (#43)

Children aren't emotionally equipped to deal with that sort of thing.

You said something intelligent.

But by you supporting the Federal Leviathan being able to change the meaning of words. You are supporting the sowing of seeds that will force children to know about freaks.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-17   21:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete (#43)

y only concern is that ALL Americans be treated equally under the law,and that we all have the same rights when it comes to the laws of the land.

So Mike Tyson should be able to represent us in the U.S. Olympics womans boxing team?

If not you are not consistent.

Proving you carve out special exemptions for your fag faction.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-17   21:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A K A Stone (#45) (Edited)

So Mike Tyson should be able to represent us in the U.S. Olympics womans boxing team?

Don't bother me anymore with your homosexual obsession. You have no intention of discussing anything or even applying reason or common sense to any reply. All you want to do is rant and rave and preach your insanity.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-02-18   1:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: sneakypete (#46)

What I want is for all American citizens to be treated equally by the government.

Showed you to be a clueless inconsistent hypocrite.

I understand why you feel defeated.

Checkmate.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-02-18   6:50:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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