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Title: Breaking: U.S. Supreme Court will rule on gay ‘marriage’ issue
Source: Life Site News
URL Source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/b ... ill-rule-on-gay-marriage-issue
Published: Jan 16, 2015
Author: Ben Johnson
Post Date: 2015-01-17 00:00:11 by redleghunter
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Comments: 155

After more than a decade of legal wrangling and a burst of judicial activism that overturned the will of the voters in dozens of states, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed on Friday to rule on whether same-sex “marriage” is an unalienable constitutional right.

Justices announced Friday that they had consolidated four cases from the states of Ohio, Tennessee, Michigan, and Kentucky, scheduling two hearings for April.

According to the Court's document, the first 90-minute session will ask, “Does the Fourteenth Amendment require a state to license a marriage between two people of the same sex?” The second session, scheduled to last one hour, will ask, “Does the Fourteenth Amendment require a state to recognize a marriage between two people of the same sex when their marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out-of-state?”

The move comes after the High Court declined to hear a series of appeals in October, leaving states where judges had redefined marriage without legal recourse. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg hinted at a public hearing that justices could weigh in on the issue if lower court rulings began to conflict.

In November, the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, based in Ohio, upheld the constitutionality of constitutional marriage protection amendments in four states – the four states where the justices agreed to hear appeals on Friday.

Court watchers expect a ruling before the end of the court's term in late June.

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#115. To: no gnu taxes (#99) (Edited)

Any laws were meant to be in the hands of the locals.

Nope. The Bill of Rights applies to ALL Americans,regardless of what state they live in.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-18   11:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Vicomte13 (#104)

He will not be mocked,

That's because he is a jealousy and vindictive God that can't even follow his own damn rules.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-18   11:17:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Vicomte13 (#105)

Therefore, abortion is banned absolutely, because people have the fundamental right to live without being killed unless they have committed a crime.

Wrong,again!

The government does NOT have the legal or semi-moral authority to demand a woman risk her own life by carrying a baby to term.

Or are you now claiming that women don't have a right to self-defense?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-18   11:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: sneakypete (#117)

The government does NOT have the legal or semi-moral authority to demand a woman risk her own life by carrying a baby to term.

The federal government was not delegated the states' police powers.

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-18   11:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: sneakypete (#112)

" If we ever have another one,it will be the end of the country. "

Agree 100 % !

Stoner  posted on  2015-01-18   11:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Palmdale (#118)

The federal government was not delegated the states' police powers.

Reduced to playing with words,are you?

The states THEMSELVES agreed to federal domination over state laws when it comes to individual freedoms,and why not when it was the original states themselves that DEMANDED a Bill of Rights as a condition to get them to form the new country?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-18   11:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: sneakypete (#117)

Wrong,again!

The government does NOT have the legal or semi-moral authority to demand a woman risk her own life by carrying a baby to term.

Or are you now claiming that women don't have a right to self-defense?

Of course it does.

Women have the right to self defense. Murdering a baby is not self defense.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-18   11:40:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: sneakypete (#116)

That's because he is a jealousy and vindictive God that can't even follow his own damn rules.

God is God, and therefore is unbound by rules. You are correct that he is jealous: he has strong emotions and opinions. His opinions are fixed and stubborn, like yours. But unlike you, there is nothing that can put pressure on him to do or not do anything, other than his own choice. So yes, God is jealous, and it is true that God follows no rules. But because he is fixed in his opinions, he is very, very predictable. He said what he wanted, he meant it, and that is precisely what we're all going to be held to, whether we like it, or him or not, and whether we believe in him or not.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-01-18   11:44:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: redleghunter (#101)

Not to mention HIV/AIDS.

What? Who can be distracted by petty concerns about HIV/AIDS when our rights to be different are being violated and our commitment to diversity is under threat. What kind of idiot are you? The next thing might try would be a move to bring up pertainent psychopathology. You should hang your head in shame.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-18   11:51:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: sneakypete (#114) (Edited)

Homosexuals are the same percentage of the population they have always been.

That statement is open to dispute in an era when homosexuality has become an acceptable substitute for engaging in an atmosphere of catastrophically failing and hostile heterosexual relationships together with acceptable or licenced or recruitment of kids into homosexuality. Homosexuality resulting from solidly organic causes is probably about the same. But homosexuality is not excusively the result of predestining organic causes. In fact, in many cases organic factors are completely irrelevant while psychological factors are determinent.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-18   12:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: sneakypete (#120)

The states THEMSELVES agreed to federal domination over state laws when it comes to individual freedoms,and why not when it was the original states themselves that DEMANDED a Bill of Rights as a condition to get them to form the new country?

A Bill of Rights placing explicit limits on the newly formed FEDERAL government.

You're welcome.

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-18   13:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Vicomte13 (#121)

Murdering a baby is not self defense.

But it's so convenient...

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-18   13:53:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: sneakypete (#117)

Wrong,again!

The government does NOT have the legal or semi-moral authority to demand a woman risk her own life by carrying a baby to term.

Pete no one has a right to murder another human being. You are not right in the head.

Liberty isn't murdering your children.

Any woman or abortion butcher that murders babies should be executed.

People who support it may be guilty of accessory to murder.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-18   14:01:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Vicomte13 (#105)

God will not be mocked.

Indeed.

"Whatever things, then, the Holy Scripture declare, at these let us look; and whatsoever things they teach, these let us learn..." Hippolytus

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-18   15:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Vicomte13 (#108)

Well there is the consideration that Joseph was split into two tribes. That was to make up for Levi being the tribe dedicated to the priesthood.

"Whatever things, then, the Holy Scripture declare, at these let us look; and whatsoever things they teach, these let us learn..." Hippolytus

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-18   15:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: rlk (#123)

Lol

"Whatever things, then, the Holy Scripture declare, at these let us look; and whatsoever things they teach, these let us learn..." Hippolytus

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-18   15:47:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Vicomte13 (#121)

Women have the right to self defense. Murdering a baby is not self defense.

Ahhh,the Jesuit pops up again to play propaganda games with words.

Of course a woman doesn't have a right to MURDER a baby.

She DOES have a right to terminate a pregnancy if it puts her life and/or health in danger to carry to term.

THAT ain't murder,bubba. It's self-defense.

And a fetus is NOT a baby or a person. It is a POTENTIAL baby or person.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-18   18:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: rlk (#124)

That statement is open to dispute .....

ONLY by the people with a bias that are spreading either pro-homosexual propaganda,or the people with a bias that are spreading anti-homosexual propaganda.

The ironic,and funny,part is both are claiming there are more homosexuals than there really are because they both think that makes their cases stronger.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-18   18:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Palmdale (#125)

A Bill of Rights placing explicit limits on the newly formed FEDERAL government.

Yes,and it was agreed the federal government would have supremacy in those issues over the individual states.

The freaking Mormons even gave up basic tenets of their religious beliefs because that was a requirement for statehood.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-18   18:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: A K A Stone (#127) (Edited)

Pete no one has a right to murder another human being.

That's true,but murder is a loaded word and that is why you used it.

Do YOU have a right to kill a 6 year old,for example,if you see that 6 year old innocently going to push a button that would set off a bomb,and shooting him is the only way you could stop him before he innocently set off a bomb that might kill hundreds?

Or would you be murdering him?

If YOUR wife or daughter were to be 1 or 2 months pregnant and discover she would probably die if she took the pregnancy to birth and DID have an abortion,would you want her arrested and put in prison?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-18   18:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: no gnu taxes (#99)

For the Law of the Land the Consitution is a sparse document

Yes, and it was meant to be.

Yes it was.

"Any laws were meant to be in the hands of the locals."

Clearly not so. The Constituion clearly articulates the subject of the laws that the states can make and that the Fed can make, but because of the sparse nature of the document there is legitimate room for interpretation and thus for opportunism and disagreement. IMO the Founding Fathers relied on the balance of powers established in the Constitution to be the mechanism for resolving disputes. Unfortunately it hasn't worked out that way over time.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-18   19:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: A K A Stone, redleghunter (#88)

They should just go ahead and outlaw it. Ignore the feds.

The reality is that it is only the Fed that resolve the issue. Either a fetus is a person or it is not. RIght no the Fed says not and there a fetus does not have the protection of the U.S. Consitution. If the Fed said yes then ALL of the states would have to treat it as such. Having 50 different determinations of what life is deservng of what protection and benefits of the Consttitution is madness.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-18   19:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: sneakypete (#134)

Do YOU have a right to kill a 6 year old,for example,if you see that 6 year old innocently going to push a button that would set off a bomb,and shooting him is the only way you could stop him before he innocently set off a bomb that might kill hundreds?

Or would you be murdering him?

To murder someone is not the same as acting in self defense.

How can someone innocently set off a bomb.

What travels faster sound or bullets? I don't know? Shouting would probably be more effective. Because he would definitely hear you. But you would maybe miss if you took a shot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-18   19:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: sneakypete (#134)

If YOUR wife or daughter were to be 1 or 2 months pregnant and discover she would probably die if she took the pregnancy to birth and DID have an abortion,would you want her arrested and put in prison?

killing someone, your child in this case, because you might die would be immoral.

Back to the previous.

You would shoot the 6 year old. Then he would be dead. And it wasn't even a button to a bomb. If you did that should you be put away for murder?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-18   19:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: SOSO (#136)

The reality is that it is only the Fed that resolve the issue

I don't really care what the law is. I just do what is moral. Or at least I try to.

For some reason the lawless government telling us to obey their pretend laws doesn't click with me. I just do what I want.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-18   19:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: A K A Stone (#139)

I just do what I want.

As long as that does not do violence or injustice to others and things and you are willing to bear the consequences of your actions go with God.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-18   19:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: SOSO (#140)

As long as that does not do violence or injustice

I don't initiate violence. I try to treat people justly. Sometimes I fail at the justice part i'm sure. But I don't go around beating people up.

I did kick this one guys ass though

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A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-18   19:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: sneakypete (#134)

Should you be able to torture a 6 year old because you are 90 percent sure that they can tell you where a bomb is going to go off that will

a. Would you do it if it might save 1 person? b. What about if it could possible save 2 people? c What if it could potentially save 10 people? d. What if it could maybe save 100 people?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-18   20:06:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: A K A Stone (#142)

Should you be able to torture a 6 year old because you are 90 percent sure that they can tell you where a bomb is going to go off that will

Silly premise. You could give him a candy bar and he would tell you everything he knows.

6 year old children ain't real good at keeping secrets.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-18   21:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: sneakypete (#134)

Do YOU have a right to kill a 6 year old,for example,if you see that 6 year old innocently going to push a button that would set off a bomb,and shooting him is the only way you could stop him before he innocently set off a bomb that might kill hundreds?

Silly premise. You could give him a candy bar and he would tell you everything he knows.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-01-18   21:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: redleghunter (#0)

U.S. Supreme Court will rule on gay ‘marriage’ issue

Except the Supreme Court dejour, really isn't.

Per Romans 1:25+, how has Nature ruled...again, and again, and again...?

VxH  posted on  2015-01-18   22:04:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: sneakypete (#132)

ONLY by the people with a bias that are spreading either pro-homosexual propaganda,or the people with a bias that are spreading anti-homosexual propaganda.

That's a good argument straight from the mouth of God.

It me ask you something having to do with the basic thesis of my reply. Have you ever done psychotherapy with a gay or lesbian? Have you ever consulted anyone who has done successful psychotherapy with gays or lesbians? Have you ever consulted the scientific literature written by people who have done serious psychotherapy with gays or lesbians?

rlk  posted on  2015-01-19   0:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: rlk (#146)

Have you ever done psychotherapy with a gay or lesbian? Have you ever consulted anyone who has done successful psychotherapy with gays or lesbians? Have you ever consulted the scientific literature written by people who have done serious psychotherapy with gays or lesbians?

No.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-19   7:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: sneakypete (#147)

Have you ever done psychotherapy with a gay or lesbian? Have you ever consulted anyone who has done successful psychotherapy with gays or lesbians? Have you ever consulted the scientific literature written by people who have done serious psychotherapy with gays or lesbians?

No.

Then please refrain from talking as if you did.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-19   14:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: rlk (#148)

Have you ever done psychotherapy with a gay or lesbian? Have you ever consulted anyone who has done successful psychotherapy with gays or lesbians? Have you ever consulted the scientific literature written by people who have done serious psychotherapy with gays or lesbians?

No.

Then please refrain from talking as if you did.

No.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-19   16:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: sneakypete (#149) (Edited)

Have you ever done psychotherapy with a gay or lesbian? Have you ever consulted anyone who has done successful psychotherapy with gays or lesbians? Have you ever consulted the scientific literature written by people who have done serious psychotherapy with gays or lesbians?

No.

Then please refrain from talking as if you did.

No.

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Yes?

rlk  posted on  2015-01-20   0:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: rlk (#150)

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Yes?

That was supposed to make more sense than your regular posts? You need to work on that some,bubba.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-01-20   8:30:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: sneakypete (#151)

Sneakypete you and I are both Army vets. We have agreed with each other most of the time. During times when we haven't agreed you have occasionally adopted an air of authority like a platoon sargeant who is not to be contradicted leading his men up a hill into enemy fire by force of command. That's fine in the army, but it is out of place in intelligent thinking civilian life. Forget about your command school of the voice. Using it as a substitute for study and training in a discussion will get you dismissed as a loudmouth and a fool. Learn to listen.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-21   0:53:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: rlk (#150)

damage chad

Please tell me you are not advocating recounting Al Gore votes in FL. :)

"Let the inspired Scripture, then, be our umpire, and the vote of truth will surely be given to those whose dogmas are found to agree with the Divine words." Gregory of Nyssa

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-21   0:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: redleghunter (#153)

damage chad

Please tell me you are not advocating recounting Al Gore votes in FL. :)

Nope. Haven't been to Florida in 25 years.

Those words were from randomized nonsense fill words used in advertising blurbs sent to me on the internet.

rlk  posted on  2015-01-21   1:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: rlk (#154)

LOL just pointing out the first two words were damage and chad.

"Let the inspired Scripture, then, be our umpire, and the vote of truth will surely be given to those whose dogmas are found to agree with the Divine words." Gregory of Nyssa

redleghunter  posted on  2015-01-21   1:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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