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Title: Be a man, try running Liberty Post
Source: LP
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jan 12, 2015
Author: Sneakypete and TooConservative
Post Date: 2015-01-12 16:37:59 by tpaine
Keywords: None
Views: 112407
Comments: 263

>> TooConservative-- Before you just shut it down, have you done any tally of results? Just eyeballing it, it looks like tpaine is probably above 60%.

>> Sneakypete---- Seems to ME that if TPaine is serious he would quit being a wuss and stand up like a man and say he will accept a 51 percent vote tally by regular posters as a victory and step up to the plate.

----It isn't me that would have to be a man and take all the bullshit... It would be the moderator. And my choice for mod would have been TooConservative, or Sneakypete, or even better, both of you.

----Tell you what, if you two take over mod/tech functions, I'd be willing to put up the money for the first year as the 'owner', and take responsibly for any legal problems we might encounter.

>> After all,he has never pretended to be anything other than a Libertarian with a "Big L",and since when have Bil L Libertarians ever demanded a 75 percent vote for anything?

-----I've never belonged to the big 'L' party. I consider myself a constitutional libertarian, who votes (mostly) republican.

>> In MY mind,if he doesn't man up and and accept ownership if he gets the majority of the votes,he was never serious about it to start with.

---I'll call your bluff. Put up (joining me, as above) or shut up about man-ing up.

>> I personally hope this isn't the case because I think all political discussion boards need Big L Libertarian owners/moderators. Anyone else and they just turn into partisan party arms preaching the party line with no dissent allowed. Without dissent there is no discussion.

---Here's your chance to put your man-ing up with your mouth. How bout it?

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#68. To: tpaine (#67) (Edited)

I think Gilligan is Gatlin, as in you were gatlinized to sysadmin, who in turn banned you.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-13   23:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Fred Mertz, TooConservative, hondo68 (#64)

Banjo Boy/byeltsin leaves his final posting of gibberish in hopes that someone fifty years from now can translate it.

Or perhaps he is tearfully downing immense quantities of booze as he posts his drunken non-haikus in the hope that he will at last understand his own incoherent scribblings before the plug is pulled and the last thing he sees as the screen fades is a single exclamation point.

!

Poor Boris, first he lost his beloved Canaries and now the site itself will fade away. He may have used Sterno as a mixer for his vodka as he spewed out his last desperate post at LP.

Orthodoxa  posted on  2015-01-13   23:22:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Fred Mertz, gatlin, Y'ALL (#68)

That was my first reaction too, --- gatlin was always a barracks lawyer type, and I'd bet he put the legal threat idea for banning me, in sysadmin's head.

What I don't understand though, is what gatlin thought he gained by the shut down. I'm sure he's here, and I wish he'd tell us all.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-13   23:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: tpaine (#4)

just for laughs

Yes, you are very funny. The admins wanted to keep LP going, then you came with your proposal, things got messy and admins decided to kill LP.

Congratulations!

A Pole  posted on  2015-01-14   2:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Fred Mertz, tpaine, TooConservative, hondo68 (#58)

Wonder how long it will take for him to get the boot here?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-01-14   7:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A Pole (#71)

The admins wanted to keep LP going, then you came with your proposal, things got messy and admins decided to kill LP.

And they just happened to suddenly pull the plug 12 hours before Goldi's DNS name expired, at best a 1:730 chance in a given year.

Coincidence? Don't kid yourself.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-14   7:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: TooConservative, A Pole (#73)

The admins wanted to keep LP going, then you came with your proposal, things got messy and admins decided to kill LP.

And they just happened to suddenly pull the plug 12 hours before Goldi's DNS name expired, at best a 1:730 chance in a given year.

Coincidence? Don't kid yourself.

For those of us not as nearly enlightened, will you please explain your ascertainment.

Motive has reason...what is it?

Spartacus  posted on  2015-01-14   8:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Spartacus (#74)

The only thing Goldi actually owned was the domain name and control of the database. There are fiduciary laws that deal with people appropriating the property of deceased persons.

I tried to tell them that they should place an advance order to snap up libertypost.org as soon as it expired. That might be considered a little unethical but completely legal.

As of midnight, all that sysadmin does at LP is on his own head. In addition, if he did sell (or give) the domains to tpaine or Pericles, he couldn't surrender them. And troublemakers could always try to denounce him to the DNS authorities at ICANN as a domain thief.

I tried to explain these angles but was probably too longwinded and got ignored. But I did it well before he renewed those domain names under his own name.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-14   8:26:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: TooConservative (#75)

Having not followed the situation, what you were talking about in the abbreviated post makes sense now.

Spartacus  posted on  2015-01-14   9:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: tpaine (#0)

Nexus6  posted on  2015-01-14   11:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Nexus6, TooConservative, Y'ALL (#77)

For someone with so little time and a family who is practically begging him to give up LP, sysadmin is on the site 24/7.

Good point. You should make it over there.

The truth behind what happened there will never be known…

I think TC posted a good part of it just above, at #55? -- That too should be posted at LP, although they'd probably delete it immediately.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-14   11:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: TooConservative (#55)

The rest is just a smokescreen and him trying to cover his own rather shameful election debacle.

I wouldn't call it "shameful."
I think that he simply didn't anticipate the can-of-worms that he plunged into.

But what you said about the real legal repurcussions of assuming ownership makes sense, so I agree that shutting LP down and putting up a memorial is the only thing that makes sense. Maybe one of these days Goldi's true family and next-of-kin will come across it and be comforted by the cyber-tribute left behind in her memory.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-14   11:35:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Willie Green (#79)

sysy started out as a clueless rube, and proceeded to shameful rather quickly. Whenever Gatlin came up with a scary sounding tale, he'd jump.

A puppet on a string.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-14   12:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: hondo68 (#80)

sysy started out as a clueless rube, and proceeded to

Awwwww... c'mon now... in all fairness to sysadmin... if ever there was proof for the old maxim "Truth is stranger than fiction," it's gotta be LibertyPost.

LOL! If you didn't participate in that bizarre soap opera for the last dozen years, there simply ain't no way you'd ever understand or believe it.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-14   12:22:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: tpaine, Nexus6 (#78)

I think TC posted a good part of it just above, at #55? -- That too should be posted at LP, although they'd probably delete it immediately.

Maybe we can let Sven and SOD have the last-banned-at-LP honors for themselves.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-14   13:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: TooConservative (#82)


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-01-14   13:08:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Willie Green, hondo68, Y'ALL (#81)

hondo68 (#80) ---- sysy started out as a clueless rube, and proceeded to

Awwwww... c'mon now... in all fairness to sysadmin... -- willy

Awwwww... c'mon now... in all fairness, - the sysadmin showed his true colors in his last email to me, wherein he called my offer "phony" and said it helped him 'in the end', -- to shut down LP.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-14   14:06:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: tpaine (#84)

the sysadmin showed his true colors in his last email to me, wherein he called my offer "phony" and said it helped him 'in the end', -- to shut down LP.

Das macht nichts... you barely had a 50% approval rating anyway, far below the goal you established for yourself.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-14   14:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Willie Green, y'all (#85)

Awwwww... c'mon now... in all fairness, - the sysadmin showed his true colors in his last email to me, wherein he called my offer "phony" and said it helped him 'in the end', -- to shut down LP.

Das macht nichts...

No true, Willy... The way LP was put down mattered to a lot of people, who posted their objections on that discussion thread. You're simply in denial.

you barely had a 50% approval rating anyway, far below the goal you established for yourself.

Exactly, I didn't want to 'own' a site where 25% disapproved of my policies.

Would you?

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-14   14:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: tpaine (#86)

The way LP was put down mattered to a lot of people, who posted their objections on that discussion thread. You're simply in denial.

You mean after all these years that you still naively believe that these chat rooms can function as some kind of democracy?
LOL! And you accuse ME of being in denial!?!

"JimRob's cesspit, JimRob's rules."
Goldi's website, Goldi's rules...
Neil and sysadmin were the only ones Goldi empowered with the ability to pull the plug regardless whether the rest of us voted for it or against it.

That's reality, not denial. No sense pissin' in the wind over it.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-14   15:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Willie Green (#87)

You're simply in denial.

You only had a 50% approval rating anyway, far below the goal you established for yourself.

Exactly, I didn't want to 'own' a site where 25% disapproved of my policies.

Would you?

You mean after all these years that you still naively believe that these chat rooms can function as some kind of democracy?

Yep, I believe we can function under a republican form of rules, and govt.

Democracies, (as you like them) don't work

LOL! And you accuse ME of being in denial!?! ---- "JimRob's cesspit, JimRob's rules."

You really liked JR's cesspit, didn't you?

Neil and sysadmin were the only ones Goldi empowered with the ability to pull the plug regardless whether the rest of us voted for it or against it.

Quite a few of us here questioned the assumption that Goldie 'empowered' anyone.

You're digging your denial hole deeper.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-14   16:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: tpaine (#88)

You really liked JR's cesspit, didn't you?

Originally... back before Y2K
but it went downhill fast after JR became a BushBot...
and strictly a partisan, toe-the-Tea-Party-Line echo chamber after that...
I'm still pretty much the same old Buchananite that I've always been... but I don't mind distancing myself as far away from the GOP as I can get. The GOP was hijacked by extremists, and I don't want to have anything to do with them. We'd all be better off if the GOP just closed up shop and turned out the lights. They're an embarassment to everything decent that I ever believed in.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-14   16:36:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: tpaine (#88)

Quite a few of us here questioned the assumption that Goldie 'empowered' anyone.

Question it all you want.
If she didn't "empower" anybody to pull the plug, then we'd all still be posting there, including you because sysadmin wouldn't have had the power to ban you.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-14   16:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Willie Green (#90)

If she didn't "empower" anybody to pull the plug, then we'd all still be posting there, including you because sysadmin wouldn't have had the power to ban you.

Zing!

Palmdale  posted on  2015-01-14   16:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Willie Green (#89)

I'm still pretty much the same old Buchananite that I've always been... but I don't mind distancing myself as far away from the GOP as I can get. The GOP was hijacked by extremists, and I don't want to have anything to do with them. We'd all be better off if the GOP just closed up shop and turned out the lights.

I've always liked Buchanan too, and I doubt he'd agree with you about an 'extremist' takeover.

The libertarian/Tparty revolution in the GOP has the potential to change American politics. I predict that the Buchananite's will join us. You should consider it.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-14   16:49:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Willie Green (#90)

Quite a few of us here questioned the assumption that Goldie 'empowered' anyone.

Question it all you want. --- If she didn't "empower" anybody to pull the plug, then we'd all still be posting there, including you because sysadmin wouldn't have had the power to ban you.

Sysadmin simply assumed the power. -- Both he and Neil had the power because they were her tech administrators. -- Get it yet? -- Reread TC' s posts above, - - he has some excellent insights on the subject.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-14   16:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Palmdale, ---- Y'ALL!!! (#91)

If she didn't "empower" anybody to pull the plug, then we'd all still be posting there, including you because sysadmin wouldn't have had the power to ban you.

Zing!

Oh gawd, he's back!!!

I'm gonna go check for bozos....

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-14   17:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Y'ALL (#94)

Yep, some bozo, --- bozoed me.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-14   17:05:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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tpaine  posted on  2015-01-14   17:35:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: tpaine (#92)

The libertarian/Tparty revolution in the GOP has the potential to change American politics. I predict that the Buchananite's will join us. You should consider it.

LOL! If you want to go groveling back to JimRob, that's you're business.
I'd rather see Obama get a 3rd term.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-14   18:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Willie Green (#97) (Edited)

I'm still pretty much the same old Buchananite that I've always been.

The libertarian/Tparty revolution in the GOP has the potential to change American politics. I predict that the Buchananite's will join us. You should consider it.

LOL! If you want to go groveling back to JimRob, that's you're business.

Damn - but if you ain't a weird Willy... What in hell does my opinion about the GOP have to do with JR?

I'd rather see Obama get a 3rd term.

I'll be charitable. You need rest.

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-14   18:22:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: tpaine, Willie Green (#93)

[Willie Green #87] Neil and sysadmin were the only ones Goldi empowered with the ability to pull the plug regardless whether the rest of us voted for it or against it.

- - -

[tpaine #88] Quite a few of us here questioned the assumption that Goldie 'empowered' anyone.

- - -

[Willie Green #90] Question it all you want.
If she didn't "empower" anybody to pull the plug, then we'd all still be posting there, including you because sysadmin wouldn't have had the power to ban you.

- - -

[tpaine #93] Sysadmin simply assumed the power. -- Both he and Neil had the power because they were her tech administrators.

It was stated that no will was found. Any grant of power by Goldi to sysadmin or Neil or anyone else was extinguished by her death.

Sysadmin had the password to access the system.

Unless Goldi did not own LP when she died, neither sysadmin, nor Neil, were lawfully "empowered" to do anything that they did. Because they had the password, they had the ability to do things. They were no longer "empowered" by Goldi to do anything.

Prior to Goldi's death, sysadmin was empowered by Goldi to act on her behalf. After Goldi's death, that power ceased to exist and no new power was bestowed from the heavens.

I believe Neil had ceased to have any agent relationship to Goldi for years prior to her death. He could not have been empowered to do anything by her death.

In the absence of any identified relative, all of Goldi's estate will go to the State of Florida under the control of a state appointed executor. The executor will be tasked with identifying the content of the estate and to auction it off or dispose of it. That would include Goldi's interests in Liberty Post.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-01-14   18:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: tpaine (#98)

I predict that the Buchananite's will join us. You should consider it.

Let me know when the GOP/Tparty funds our federal government like our Founding Fathers did: with tariffs levied on imported goods.
Clue: Ain't gonna happen.

You need rest.

I've had plenty of rest for the last 3 years...
The GOP/TParty used that opportunity to prove to me that they're totally unfit to govern.
I don't see anybody saying anything that will make me change my mind in the upcoming election cycle.
They're just chanting the same old meaningless slogans that got us into this mess to begin with.

"Some people march to a different drummer — and some people polka."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-01-14   18:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: nolu chan (#99)

Thanks Chan. Good synopsis, but I'd bet that it flies right over the heads of many here..

tpaine  posted on  2015-01-14   19:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: nolu chan, tpaine, Willie Green (#99)

They were no longer "empowered" by Goldi to do anything.

Prior to Goldi's death, sysadmin was empowered by Goldi to act on her behalf. After Goldi's death, that power ceased to exist

You know none of this as fact, unless of course you had been named in Goldi's will or are the next of kin. Why are you specualting? IMO shutting down LP was the most righteous thing to do and the best tribute to Goldi, unless of course you have a Goldi clone waiting in the wings - and even then that would not be sufficient to maintain Goldi's memory.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-14   21:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: SOSO (#102)

IMO shutting down LP was the most righteous thing to do and the best tribute to Goldi

You don't know anything.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-01-14   21:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: tpaine (#98)

You need rest.

Did you lift that from my post today about Clarity, the lawyer who lost TOS's case with WaPo/LAT?

I recounted how he used to say that and what an annoying prick that disbarred shylock really was.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-14   21:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Fred Mertz (#103)

IMO shutting down LP was the most righteous thing to do and the best tribute to Goldi

You don't know anything.

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize just how active a poster you were on LP in recent times. I guessed I missed that memo.

For that matter you don't seem to much of a poster of news article on LF either, but that's for another discussion.

But I am all ears, pray tell what you believe would have been the best disposition on LP on Goldi's demise, especially when apparently she left no instructions or even expressed a preference (unless she did ti sysadmin and Neil at some time).

BTW, it's you don't know nothin'.

SOSO  posted on  2015-01-14   21:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: SOSO (#102)

You know none of this as fact, unless of course you had been named in Goldi's will or are the next of kin.

Unless Goldi was NOT the owner when she died, I know as FACT that sysadmin and Neil acted without authority. It is impossible that they had authority.

I'm more than willing to hear how it is possible.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-01-14   21:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: SOSO (#102)

You know none of this as fact, unless of course you had been named in Goldi's will or are the next of kin.

If sysadmin told us the truth about Goldi having no will, then nolu is correct.

You need to read up on fiduciary laws. They protect estates from misappropriation of all kinds.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-14   21:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: SOSO, Deckard, Hondo68, Pericles (#105) (Edited)

I didn't realize just how active a poster you were on LP in recent times. I guessed I missed that memo.

nolu's history at LP is well-known.

It is you who hides behind a mask here, afraid to reveal yourself because, obviously, you know you made yourself hated at LP. It is the only reason anyone would hide their LP identity. Deckard is IW, Hondo was Booshbot, Pericles was Destro/Godwinson. They aren't hiding anything. But you are. Because you know what our reaction is to your psychopathic personality.

But you claim to have nothing to hide while stalking others and trying to pretend that they are the ones hiding something.

Come out from under your bridge into the light. Reveal thyself, troll.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-01-14   21:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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