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Title: Be a man, try running Liberty Post
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Published: Jan 12, 2015
Author: Sneakypete and TooConservative
Post Date: 2015-01-12 16:37:59 by tpaine
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Views: 112372
Comments: 263
>> TooConservative-- Before you just shut it down, have you done any tally of results? Just eyeballing it, it looks like tpaine is probably above 60%. >> Sneakypete---- Seems to ME that if TPaine is serious he would quit being a wuss and stand up like a man and say he will accept a 51 percent vote tally by regular posters as a victory and step up to the plate. ----It isn't me that would have to be a man and take all the bullshit... It would be the moderator. And my choice for mod would have been TooConservative, or Sneakypete, or even better, both of you. ----Tell you what, if you two take over mod/tech functions, I'd be willing to put up the money for the first year as the 'owner', and take responsibly for any legal problems we might encounter. >> After all,he has never pretended to be anything other than a Libertarian with a "Big L",and since when have Bil L Libertarians ever demanded a 75 percent vote for anything? -----I've never belonged to the big 'L' party. I consider myself a constitutional libertarian, who votes (mostly) republican. >> In MY mind,if he doesn't man up and and accept ownership if he gets the majority of the votes,he was never serious about it to start with. ---I'll call your bluff. Put up (joining me, as above) or shut up about man-ing up. >> I personally hope this isn't the case because I think all political discussion boards need Big L Libertarian owners/moderators. Anyone else and they just turn into partisan party arms preaching the party line with no dissent allowed. Without dissent there is no discussion. ---Here's your chance to put your man-ing up with your mouth. How bout it?
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#29. To: sneakypete (#27)
Spoken like a true anarchist that he is. After all who or what is more important the "me".
Thanks for outing yourself. Possibly. This poster seems far too civil to be SOD, but of course it could be an act. We'll know soon enough if he starts ranting and raving about "kooks", i.e, Libertarians and "Truthers".
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Maybe that's just me,though? Au contraeu, the Rossi merlot, vintage 2014, is a particularly fine wine.
Ron Paul is an "anarchist"? After all who or what is more important the "me". Does the concept of individual liberty cause you to wet your panties? Or are you just one of those "it takes a village" types?
"if you're not cop, you're little people" Possibly. This poster seems far too civil to be SOD, but of course it could be an act. See post #26 on this thread. I believe sneakypete could also be SOD based on tpaine's analysis. Please, can we stop the LP bickering here? It's still open for business. You can argue there all you want until tomorrow.
You sure as sensitive about that term. Why? Goldi ran that same web site for years. How "manly" was SHE? Women runs tens of thousands of web sites. I may be wrong,but I think your idea was to pose and cause conflict. Based mainly on the fact that you never paid up on the bet you lost. If you do that once,you will do it often. WE, --- meaning you, TC, and I still could 'accept', and I'd bet the sysadmin over there would turn the site over to us. Not anymore. It's over. Besides,with my temper who would seriously consider me as a mod? Besides,as a moderator I really wouldn't be able to join in on any discussions. Moderators have to/should stay personally aloof from all the dust being raised. How else can they remain impartial and fair? Even if they were,there would be a segment that would never believe I didn't moderate in order to enforce my personal POV instead of trying to lower the noise ratio. I never made such an unconditional bet. Ahhh,the devil is in the details! I freely admit I only paid casual interest in the events leading up to that bet and the precise details that defined it,but I do remember to the casual viewer (me) it sure as hell looked like you lost and refused to pay up. And I'm not proud of that fact, the way things turned out. Nor should you be,but I do give you credit for admitting you didn't pay up. And dancing around and complaining about "fine details" does you no credit. You lost and refused to pay off a measly 100 dollar donation to LP bet. Your own sense of pride and self-respect should have forced you to pay up to avoid questions being asked,and the fact that you didn't pay up does not speak well for your character. If you can't be trusted to pay off a lousy 100 bet,how can you be trusted to do anything else you say you will do?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I offered to Mod or to pay expenses or to give up my votes to tpaine. All to no avail.
Or are you just one of those "it takes a village" types? Yeah,that described me alright! If there is one thing I'm known for it's not making waves and going with the flow.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
LOL!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I know,and I admit that I was surprised. Good on you.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Or are you just one of those "it takes a village" types? Yeah,that described me alright! If there is one thing I'm known for it's not making waves and going with the flow. I think you misunderstood - that comment was directed to SOSO concerning his calling RP an "anarchist".
OOPS! My apologies. I do have to admit that given my tag line I couldn't figure out why you would think I don't like Ron Paul.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Not true, the JBT sysy censored some of my remarks just today.
I really do NOT want to run (moderate) a web site. --- Try reading my post again. Pete is rubbing in my 'lack' of manliness, and I'm calling his bluff.
Yes,numbnuts. You trying to pass yourself off as a victim. You made the bet,you lost the bet,and now you are trying to pass yourself off as a "victim of a technicality. It remind me of Bubba Bill defending his perjury by claiming "It all depends on what the definition of "is",is". I expected better of you.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
When taken to excess yes. Do you believe that in all things at all times me is more important than we? BTW, can the wise cracks and snipes as I give as good as I get, usually much better. I am probably one of the more liberty minded people that you will meet. I will be happy to have a civil conversation with you about the limits of me over we and vice versa if you wish.
NO, --- that was the gatlin groups version of what happened. It is bullshit, and for some odd reason you've swallowed it. You're going beyond the line with your suppositions, and I don't have a clue why you're doing it. -- Something else bothering you, bubba? More unsupported bullshit from a strangely disturbed fella. I expected better from you. It appears we're both disappointed about each other's character. --- BFD. -- I'll learn to live with your odd opinion of mine. I suggest you do the same.
sneakypete do you go to forums just to fight or to post about political/news issues?
Trying to pick a fight already,comrade?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Trying to pick a fight already,comrade? Seriously? Come one. Post an article from the news or some such. Arguing over a cyber dare/bet? Lame. Waste of time.
Just received a couple of emails from the Sysadmin-LP, -- in his first he tried to apologize for any 'unnecessary aggravation' he had caused me. I replied that being unfairly banned from websites was no big deal (twice in 18 years?, shrug) but that because he called me a criminal, I couldn't accept his apology, - - although I thanked him for the amusing 'election'.... His reply: ---- What a sweetheart, -- I hope he gets absolution from some confessor, but he won't get it from me.
I guess you were just too much trouble to bother dealing with. See any pattern there?
I'd guess you don't have a clue about my problems with JR at FR, and with the Sysadmin-LP.
He's ashamed of how he conducted himself overall. He was dishonest and his generally low character surfaced. Now he wants to act all nonchalant and above it all. What a phony.
Thanks for your support. Oh, I forgot, -- I'd appreciate it if someone here would repost this lovely last message from the sysadmin, over at LP's 'Last Post'. Some there may be enlightened that my "phony" offer helped him to shut LP down.
Oh, I forgot, -- I'd appreciate it if someone here would repost this lovely last message from the sysadmin, over at LP's 'Last Call' nostalgia fest.. Some there may be enlightened that my "phony" offer helped him to shut LP down.
Not at all. He chickened out. You do realize that tomorrow is the last day of Goldi's annual DNS subscription? sysadmin had already renewed it, apparently under his own name. I advised against this. I think he finally realized that the only thing about LP that was Goldi's was the domain name (libertypost.org & .net). So he's closing it at noon tomorrow because at midnight tomorrow night, he would be using Goldi's pilfered property for his own purposes, however innocent those might actually be. You weren't any legal threat to him compared to the actual legal peril he put himself in. And what do you suppose would happen the first time he made someone really really mad? They'd make complaints that he pilfered the domain name, might make fiduciary complaints against him concerning the handling of a deceased person's property. And that domain name was the only part of LP that Goldi actually owned and that had a real value, however negligible. But by turning the domain into a memorial, no one can say that he took it for himself unlawfully. And he never actually wanted it to begin with anyway. The DNS issue and his own bizarre ever-changing election with new candidates and new options and new scoring methods ending in complete tatters were why he pulled the plug. That and Neil telling him to close it. Neil's vote probably counted more than the rest of us put together because they knew each other personally for about 15 years. And for all his whining about how awful we were and how awful all his friends thought we were, he actually did almost no moderating at all. He pulled the plug at noon on the 14th because Goldi's DNS expires at midnight. The rest is just a smokescreen and him trying to cover his own rather shameful election debacle.
I hope you post your opinion on his 'last call' thread soon. I'd like to see his reaction…
Why bother? He'd just spin another set of self-serving half-truths. He might even be able to make himself believe they're true. Look at that mutating election and how he kept ridiculously telling us how fair it was, how it was exactly what you wanted...he was obviously an experienced (but inept) blame-shifter. But a coincidence of shutting down within 12 hours of the new DNS ownership under his own name taking effect? At best, the odds are 1 in 730 in any given year that that could happen in a single 12 hour period. That's a lot of coincidence in my book.
Neil just banned SOD. LOL! That stupid old drunk couldn't control himself.
sysadmin had already renewed it, apparently under his own name. To what end is The Game played? Future considerations of 'Liberty Post' as a tangible asset? Is there the suggestion that the shuttering of LP is beyond mere "sentimentality"?
Isn't this like getting tossed out of a game with .01 left on the clock? Too little, too late.
Not really. Just keeping his name clear of it or any possible complaints of domain hijacking. That isn't something that someone in networking professionally wants on his professional resume, for whatever reason.
Should have whacked Final Authority too! What a retard neocon ahole!
Could it be considered "inherited" by default? By a working/personal association? Then why not just offer to sell/surrender the whole kit and caboodle at some later date? Or is this a question of authority? Odd situation and end result in any case. Especially after the whole voting. I guess some kind of liability always lurks in the background... In the alternative, I wonder if it's possible that Gilligan threatened some kind of legal action out of malice or covetous envy...
Banjo Boy/byeltsin leaves his final posting of gibberish in hopes that someone fifty years from now can translate it.
Boris is going to babble to LP's final seconds, like the crew members going down with the Titanic.
Well, he can surrender it to the estate's appointed lawyer if asked. But he certainly couldn't do that if he had bought it himself and then resold it to tpaine or Pericles. That situation is what likely determined the outcome and the sudden pulling of the plug. Line up the incentives and chart the path of least resistance and the lowest threat level and that is what people will always choose, almost without exception.
In the alternative, I wonder if it's possible that Gilligan threatened some kind of legal action out of malice or covetous envy... Gilligan? Who he? Why is it that practically everybody here delights in using nicknames for names that are already pseudonymous handles?
I think Gilligan is Gatlin, as in you were gatlinized to sysadmin, who in turn banned you.
Or perhaps he is tearfully downing immense quantities of booze as he posts his drunken non-haikus in the hope that he will at last understand his own incoherent scribblings before the plug is pulled and the last thing he sees as the screen fades is a single exclamation point. ! Poor Boris, first he lost his beloved Canaries and now the site itself will fade away. He may have used Sterno as a mixer for his vodka as he spewed out his last desperate post at LP.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestWhy is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#30. To: tpaine, Nexus6, is SOD (#22)
Yep, that's exactly what SOD posted recently over at LP.
#31. To: sneakypete (#27)
Ibelieve the wine in boxes has a superior flavor to the wine that comes in aluminum pop-top cans.
#32. To: SOSO, sneakypete (#29)
Spoken like a true anarchist that he is.
#33. To: Deckard, tpaine, sneakypete (#30)
Yep, that's exactly what SOD posted recently over at LP. Thanks for outing yourself.
#34. To: tpaine (#28)
Pete is rubbing in my 'lack' of manliness, and I'm calling his bluff.
#35. To: tpaine, TooConservative, Sneakypete (#1)
#36. To: Deckard (#32)
Does the concept of individual liberty cause you to wet your panties?
#37. To: Nexus6 (#33)
I believe sneakypete could also be SOD based on tpaine's analysis.
#38. To: Pericles (#35)
I offered to Mod or to pay expenses or to give up my votes to tpaine. All to no avail.
#39. To: sneakypete (#36)
Does the concept of individual liberty cause you to wet your panties?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
#40. To: Deckard (#39)
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I think you misunderstood - that comment was directed to SOSO concerning his calling RP an "anarchist".
#41. To: Nexus6, quit lying (#33)
can we stop the LP bickering here? It's still open for business. You can argue there all you want until tomorrow.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#42. To: sneakypete (#34)
Little sensitive over that,bubba?
Over what, bubba, you saying 'man up'? Big hat, no cattle. Man up and tell us what you think of my idea about LP. You sure as sensitive about that term. Why? Goldi ran that same web site for years. How "manly" was SHE? --- Women runs tens of thousands of web sites.
Weird reply Pete. I'm not sensitive about any term, nor are you. The cadre in jump school made sure of that, correct? I may be wrong,but I think your idea was to pose and cause conflict. Based mainly on the fact that you never paid up on the bet you lost. If you do that once,you will do it often.
You're wrong, bubba. Ahhh,the devil is in the details! I freely admit I only paid casual interest in the events leading up to that bet and the precise details that defined it,but I do remember to the casual viewer (me) it sure as hell looked like you lost and refused to pay up.
Thanks for manning up as a casual viewer. Your opinion is filed. And I'm not proud of the fact that I never gave her a donation, -- the way things turned out, but I never owed her one. Nor should you be,but I do give you credit for admitting you didn't pay up.
Big of you bubba. Thanks. And dancing around and complaining about "fine details" does you no credit.
Pete, I'll dance with you all you want. I don't quite know what you hope to accomplish by ragging on me, but feel free. You lost and refused to pay off a measly 100 dollar donation to LP bet.
That was the gatlin groups version of what happened. It is bullshit. Your own sense of pride and self-respect should have forced you to pay up to avoid questions being asked,and the fact that you didn't pay up does not speak well for your character. If you can't be trusted to pay off a lousy 100 bet,how can you be trusted to do anything else you say you will do?
You're going beyond the line with your suppositions, and I don't have a clue why you're doing it. -- Something else bothering you, bubba?
#43. To: tpaine (#42)
Something else bothering you, bubba?
#44. To: Deckard, sneakypete (#32)
Does the concept of individual liberty cause you to wet your panties?
#45. To: sneakypete (#43)
You lost and refused to pay off a measly 100 dollar donation to LP bet.
Your own sense of pride and self-respect should have forced you to pay up to avoid questions being asked,and the fact that you didn't pay up does not speak well for your character. If you can't be trusted to pay off a lousy 100 bet,how can you be trusted to do anything else you say you will do?
Yes,numbnuts. You trying to pass yourself off as a victim.
You made the bet,you lost the bet,and now you are trying to pass yourself off as a "victim of a technicality. It remind me of Bubba Bill defending his perjury by claiming "It all depends on what the definition of "is",is". --- I expected better of you.
#46. To: tpaine, sneakypete (#45)
#47. To: Pericles (#46)
sneakypete do you go to forums just to fight or to post about political/news issues?
#48. To: sneakypete (#47)
sneakypete do you go to forums just to fight or to post about political/news issues?
#49. To: All (#0)
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Oh, I forgot to mention that all further email from you will be automatically deleted without being read. Believe it or not I don't harbor any particularly ill will, I just don't want to be bothered. Your phony offer to take over LP was actually helpful in the end. As I said, have a nice life.
#50. To: tpaine (#49)
#51. To: Biff Tannen (#50)
#52. To: tpaine (#49)
Oh, I forgot to mention that all further email from you will be automatically deleted without being read. Believe it or not I don't harbor any particularly ill will, I just don't want to be bothered. Your phony offer to take over LP was actually helpful in the end. As I said, have a nice life.
#53. To: TooConservative (#52)
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#54. To: TooConservative, infowarrior, murron, Y'ALL (#52)
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Oh, I forgot to mention that all further email from you will be automatically deleted without being read. Believe it or not I don't harbor any particularly ill will, I just don't want to be bothered. Your phony offer to take over LP was actually helpful in the end. As I said, have a nice life.
#55. To: tpaine, Pericles, Hondo68, Fred Mertz (#53)
Thanks for your support.
#56. To: TooConservative (#55)
#57. To: tpaine, Pericles, Hondo68, Fred Mertz (#56)
#58. To: tpaine, TooConservative, hondo68 (#55)
#59. To: TooConservative (#55)
You do realize that tomorrow is the last day of Goldi's annual DNS subscription?
#60. To: Fred Mertz (#58)
Neil just banned SOD. LOL!
#61. To: Liberator (#59)
To what end is The Game played? Future considerations of 'Liberty Post' as a tangible asset?
#62. To: Fred Mertz (#58)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#63. To: TooConservative (#61)
#64. To: hondo68 (#62)
#65. To: hondo68 (#62)
#66. To: Liberator (#63)
Could it be considered "inherited" by default? By a working/personal association? Then why not just offer to sell/surrender the whole kit and caboodle at some later date? Or is this a question of authority?
#67. To: Liberator (#63)
Odd situation and end result in any case. Especially after the whole voting. I guess some kind of liability always lurks in the background...
#68. To: tpaine (#67)
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#69. To: Fred Mertz, TooConservative, hondo68 (#64)
Banjo Boy/byeltsin leaves his final posting of gibberish in hopes that someone fifty years from now can translate it.
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