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Title: Watch the cabin battle with fugitive former LAPD officer
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URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... ynolds-killer-ex-cop-home.html
Published: Feb 14, 2013
Author: CBS
Post Date: 2013-02-14 09:03:41 by A K A Stone
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)
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Who made the decision to burn it down. Why the hurry. Who's gonna pay for the cabin. Who's gonna get the reward......;}
AND HERE WE GO The LAPD Got their Man How They Wanted Him: Dead Wed, 02/13/2013 - 11:10 by: Dave Lindorff "Burn that fuckin' house down...Fucking burn this motherfucker!!" --Voices overheard on police radio at the scene of the cabin where Chris Dorner was trapped and burned to death It was clear from the outset when fired LAPD cop Chris Dorner began wreaking his campaign of vengeance and terror against his former employer that the California law enforcement establishment, led by the LAPD itself, had no interest in Dorner surviving to face trial, where he could continue to rat out the racist and corrupt underbelly of the one of the country’s biggest police departments. Dorner, as I wrote earlier, claimed he had been fired for speaking up during his three years on the force, through channels and to superior officers, about incidents he had witnessed of police brutality and of the rampant racism that permeates the department -- not just white on black, but black on Asian, Asian on Latino and Latino on white. His response to being sacked -- threatening to kill senior officers he blamed for this law enforcement distopia as well as some of their family members -- was criminally insane, but his complaints, made in a 6000-word post on Facebook, had and continue to have the ring of truth.
They got their way. Trapped in a cabin in the mountain town of Big Bear northwest of Los Angeles last night, Dorner found himself surrounded by SWAT teams. If the police had wanted to capture Dorner at that point, they could have waited him out. They had him sealed off completely. Instead, they reportedly quickly brought in an armored vehicle, had it drive up and break the windows of the cabin. At that point, the official story is that they tossed in teargas grenades, but since these are known, because of their intense heat, to routinely ignite fires, this was simply murder by arson. But there is also word that police radios were confirming execution of a plan to place "burners" into the building. Either way, the sheriffs and cops, once the fire was started, simply watched as the building burned to the ground. (There are some truly sickening recordings of the police and sheriff's deputies at the scene of the standoff discussing their "burn plan" to torch the cabin, and then discussing setting it, and also telling inquiring firefighters that they don't want them to put it out, even telling an inquiring firefighter at one point, "Negative, I still don't have adequate penetration." To hear this last conversation, go here.) The US corporate media from the New York Times to Fox TV have been claiming despite the strong evidence of deliberate arson that the fire was not intentional or that it was not meant to torch Dorner, but outside the US it’s a different story, with even the right-wing Bild newspaper in German saying the fire was “intentionally let by the police.”
Now the challenge will be to see if this episode will lead to a serious outside examination of the sick paramilitary apparatus that is the Los Angeles Police Department, a law enforcement organization that has for decades been a poster child for police abuse, excessive violence, the slaying of unarmed people, internal racism, improper political pressure on both city council and state legislature, rampant spying on law-abiding citizens, and a policy of omerta regarding internal criticism of wrongdoing. Given the department’s long history of fighting tooth-and-nail against oversight and reform, it seems unlikely Dorner’s explosion will have such an effect, but given the instant celebrity he achieved through his actions, even despite his cruel and inexcusable violence, perhaps it will. The public reaction in Los Angeles, as least among many of the populations--black, Latino and poor whites -- who are victimized most often by the police -- has shown that many people are angry and want things changed. While Dorner was at large, and police were gunning for him in their heavy-handed, trigger-happy way, some dark-skinned Angelenos took to wearing shirts saying “Please Don’t Shoot. I’m not Dorner.” Owners of pick-up trucks too, after the incident involving the police shooting of two Latino women in one such vehicle, started writing “Not Dorner” on the backs of their trucks. There's even a I support Dorner Facebook page.
If Dorhner didn't want to 'die in a fire' he coulda walked out the front door with his hands up. He chose to eat a bullet instead. Good riddance.
I laughed my ass off as I watched the asshole burn. LAPD did the state a big service by eliminating this sorry bastard and saved us millions in his trial. I would have like to see him spent some time in jail as the inmates play toy but I'll be happy now that satan is butt raping him right now with some rusty barbwire.
I would have like to see him spent some time in jail as the inmates play toy but I'll be happy now that satan is butt raping him right now with some rusty barbwire. And that's exactly how the LAPD wants you to think. Meantime: Who's paying for the house? Who gets the reward? Waiting.
He chose to eat a bullet instead. Good riddance. But it's not Dorner's call. And Why the hurry?
While waiting for replies.....;} Anyone interested in PATCON Eric Holder? No?
Who gets the reward? Waiting. as a cal taxpayer i'll be more then happy to, it's way cheaper then a trials and years of appeal, plus i don't have to listen to stupid libs talk about how he's made an effort to right his wrong. i will however miss the joy of John and Ken on KFI 640 having a "dorner must die" hour on their show everyday, just like their famous and hilarious daily "tokie (williams)must die" hour.
Lol..wtf are you talking about? Chris Dorner could have given up a multitude of times but each time he deliberately chose to fight instead. He was a coward right up until his last breath also.
Lol..wtf are you talking about? So according to you, the LAPD is just one more Gang Banger. The Instant Dorner is surrounded with Zero hostages, he's under arrest. Like shooting a man who's handcuffed. Like I said, it's not Dorner's call. Keep comin' for more info.....;}
What if. I said if. The single gunshot was shot at him as he tried to leave?
The shootout looked pretty bad.
Like shooting a man who's handcuffed. Do arrested people in handcuffs shoot at the police? I must have missed that one. Thanks for keeping us updated on all the breaking news.
YEah, it would. But Dorner's only killing cops. I could've walked right up to the door.
must have missed that one. You did. On purpose. As usual.....;} When the perp has been restrained, then the Rule of Law supercedes....or we can do the Law of the Jungle. Evidently LAPD likes Option #2.....;}
It's what I do......;}
No..that's your straw man argument not mine. Dorner could have surrendered to the Fish & Game Dept. if he chose to.
Then I'd say it was good shooting by someone on the SWAT team. Look..Dorner had a death wish and his wish was granted.
No..that's your straw man argument not mine. NOPE. What gave the LAPD authority to burn the house down. That's not a straw man. That's describing a State Force out of control. You know, the reason you gun nuts are frothing at the mouth....;} except here.......;}
Again. It's not up to Dorner. IT was up to Dorner until the LAPD subdued him.
Which jock will get to kill the first American here in the homeland? The nominee to head the CIA ain't saying. "I have asked Mr. Brennan if he believed that the President has the power to authorize lethal force, such as a drone strike, against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil, and my question remains unanswered. ~ Rand Paul Some things are getting back to normal. Los Angeles residents are reportedly on edge today following reports that hundreds of armed and extremely dangerous Los Angeles Police Department officers are resuming regular patrolling duties after the conclusion of Tuesday’s manhunt for rogue ex-cop Christopher Dorner. “I mean, just knowing they’re out there is terrifying—how can I feel safe when these maniacs are on the loose in my neighborhood?” kenney's sideshow
CCTV of Dorner and the Lanzas In the case of the Chris Dorner affair surveillance videos have emerged verifying several instances of the alleged killer’s existence over a very brief period of time leading up to his demise. He was recorded buying scuba gear, disposing ammo in a dumpster, and attempting to dodge surveillance cameras at a hotel where he lodged. And as noted CBSLA journalists believe they encountered Dorner’s mother at a neighborhood tavern. All of this footage was unhesitatingly reported by news media outlets. www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHd9USZplZg www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoHTw6f0cM4 www.youtube.com/watch?v=goa56LuZx7E Yet in the Newtown event, aside from the lack of video surveillance footage of the shooting scene, no such video has emerged of Nancy or Adam Lanza practicing at gun ranges, purchasing or attempting to purchase weapons, or even carrying out routine errands such as buying gasoline or grocery shopping. Indeed, it is as if Adam Lanza in particular did not exist—an observation actually made by one CNN correspondent in early coverage of the massacre’s aftermath.
On February 19 the “official” version of the Sandy Hook tragedy will be further ensconced in the public mind through a special PBS-Hartford Courant Frontline collaborative production. In light of what essentially qualifies as state propaganda, understanding how the Newtown tragedy was so obviously misrepresented by the nation’s news media vis-à-vis similar events remains especially important because it provides an indication of not just the mechanics of the media’s manipulation of public will and consciousness, but also how we as a society describe and recollect such dark events.
Setting aside consideration of their spontaneity or design, taken as a whole these occurrences have grave political implications because they are being used by the Obama administration as a rationale to seriously compromise the Second Amendment, much like how the events of September 11, 2001 were utilized by the Bush-Cheney regime to undermine the Fourth Amendment and usher in the costly and interminable “war on terror.” If Amerikans are stupid enough to buy bottled water.......;}
Lets start with your mischaraterization that anyone wearing a badge in the Dorner manhunt was "LAPD"..they were not. Dorner's final confrontation was with San Bernadino County Sheriff's department, before that he had a shootout with State Fish and Game officers, before that he attacked two Riverside California policeman. Dorner was heavily armed, extremely dangerous, had killed four people including two on-duty policeman, and vowed never to be taken alive prior to being cornered in an empty cabin south of Big Bear. Dorner did not respond to requests he surrender or to the less intense 'cold' tear-gas that had been fired into the cabin where he was holed up. It was under these circumstances and with concern that Dorner might escape under the cover of darkness that the decision to use the 'hot' tear-gas was made.
Your repeating this bullshit doesn't make it true.
Watch Dragnet much?
Your repeating this bullshit doesn't make it true. So let's try this. The LAPD did not have the situation under control until...... you tell me.
BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
# # The LAPD and the hunt for Christopher Dorner - latimes.com www.latimes.com/news/.../...-20130214,0,3334374.story - Cached 2 days ago ... Christopher Dorner may be dead, but the police response to the crisis raises troubling questions. Christopher Dorner's body positively ID'd - CNN.com www.cnn.com/2013/02/14/us/lapd-dorner 1 day ago ... Dorner was fired from the Los Angeles Police Department in 2009 for falsely accusing his training officer ... Explore the news with NewsPulse » ... After Dorner Manhunt, LAPD Must Continue Grappling With "Ghosts ... www.nbclosangeles.com/new...f-the-Past-191345391.html - Cached 1 day ago ... What ended in fiery stand-off in a mountain cabin allegedly began with a firm conviction inside the mind of fugitive and former Los Angeles ...
...Dorner had been removed as a threat to public safety. This could have been accomplished with him in handcuffs, but Dorner chose not to go that way. He was a coward right up to the end.
And you're gonna tell me San Bernadino is gonna ride rough shod over the LAPD? That doesn't even pass the laugh test. But thanx for bringin' them up. News conference 6:05 PM C. Or 4:05 P, Firday, just in time for Happy Hour......;}
Who's gonna pay for the house: LAPD or SBSheriff Who's gonna collect the $1 million. No one. # # Does Dorner Reward 'Loophole' Mean $1M Won't Be Paid ... blogs.findlaw.com/.../doe...mean-1m-wont-be-paid.html - Cached 22 hours ago ... Authorities publicly offered more than $1 million in reward money ... But here's why the three rewards offered in the Dorner manhunt will likely go uncollected: ... The mayor announced a $1 million reward for information that ...
Did you have a point to make or are these cut n paste links part of your patented agitprop auto-repsonse system?
Who fucking cares?...I'm sure it will be taken care of by the appropriate parties or the courts. The mayor of Los Angeles will decide if anyone qualifies for a reward but again..who fucking cares? outside of a few people directly involved.
Then it would've been: I need a source.....so old and tired. AgitProp's a nice word.
Who fucking cares?. Exactly what LAPD wants..... Except the folks who own the house. But Individual Property Rights just like your 2nd Amendment and the Bill of Rights mean less than nothing when Your Gang is winning.....eh, Tbird? LMFAO.....;}
#35. To: All (#34) Who's gonna pay for the house: LAPD or SBSheriff Who's gonna collect the $1 million. No one. # # Does Dorner Reward 'Loophole' Mean $1M Won't Be Paid ... blogs.findlaw.com/.../doe...mean-1m-wont-be-paid.html - Cached 22 hours ago ... Authorities publicly offered more than $1 million in reward money ... But here's why the three rewards offered in the Dorner manhunt will likely go uncollected: ... The mayor announced a $1 million reward for information that ... mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-16 12:31:46 ET
#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#3. To: All (#2)
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#5. To: mcgowanjm (#2)
#6. To: mcgowanjm (#4)
#7. To: calcon (#6)
I laughed my ass off as I watched the asshole burn. LAPD did the state a big service by eliminating this sorry bastard and saved us millions in his trial.
#8. To: Thunderbird (#5)
If Dorhner didn't want to 'die in a fire' he coulda walked out the front door with his hands up.
#9. To: Thunderbird (#5)
#10. To: mcgowanjm (#7)
Who's paying for the house?
#11. To: mcgowanjm (#8)
But it's not Dorner's call.
#12. To: Thunderbird (#11)
But it's not Dorner's call.
#13. To: Thunderbird (#5)
If Dorhner didn't want to 'die in a fire' he coulda walked out the front door with his hands up
#14. To: mcgowanjm (#12)
The Instant Dorner is surrounded with Zero hostages, he's under arrest.
#15. To: mcgowanjm (#12)
The Instant Dorner is surrounded with Zero hostages, he's under arrest.
#16. To: A K A Stone (#14)
The shootout looked pretty bad.
#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)
Do arrested people in handcuffs shoot at the police?
#18. To: A K A Stone (#15)
Thanks for keeping us updated on all the breaking news.
#19. To: mcgowanjm (#12)
So according to you, the LAPD is just one more Gang Banger.
#20. To: A K A Stone (#13)
What if. I said if. The single gunshot was shot at him as he tried to leave?
#21. To: Thunderbird (#19)
So according to you, the LAPD is just one more Gang Banger.
#22. To: Thunderbird (#19)
Dorner could have surrendered to the Fish & Game Dept. if he chose to.
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#27. To: mcgowanjm (#21)
What gave the LAPD authority to burn the house down.
#28. To: mcgowanjm (#22)
IT was up to Dorner until the LAPD subdued him.
#29. To: Thunderbird (#27)
It was under these circumstances and with concern that Dorner might escape under the cover of darkness...
#30. To: Thunderbird (#28)
IT was up to Dorner until the LAPD subdued him.
#31. To: Fred Mertz (#29)
Watch Dragnet much?
#32. To: Thunderbird (#27)
Lets start with your mischaraterization that anyone wearing a badge in the Dorner manhunt was "LAPD"..they were not.
#33. To: mcgowanjm (#30)
The LAPD did not have the situation under control until......
#34. To: Thunderbird (#27)
Lets start with your mischaraterization that anyone wearing a badge in the Dorner manhunt was "LAPD"..they were not.
#35. To: All (#34)
#36. To: mcgowanjm (#32)
#37. To: mcgowanjm (#35)
Who's gonna pay for the house
#38. To: Thunderbird (#36)
Did you have a point to make or are these cut n paste links part of your patented agitprop auto-repsonse system?
#39. To: Thunderbird (#37)
Who's gonna pay for the house
#40. To: All (#35)
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