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Title: Why the 2nd Amendment
Source: Townhall.com
URL Source: http://townhall.com/columnists/walt ... -amendment-n1476632/page/full/
Published: Jan 2, 2013
Author: Walter E. Williams
Post Date: 2013-01-08 21:26:06 by Abcdefg
Keywords: None
Views: 4386
Comments: 13

Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., shootings, said: "The British are not coming. ... We don't need all these guns to kill people." Lewis' vision, shared by many, represents a gross ignorance of why the framers of the Constitution gave us the Second Amendment. How about a few quotes from the period and you decide whether our Founding Fathers harbored a fear of foreign tyrants.

Alexander Hamilton: "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed," adding later, "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government." By the way, Hamilton is referring to what institution when he says "the representatives of the people"?

James Madison: "(The Constitution preserves) the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation ... (where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."

Thomas Jefferson: "What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms."

George Mason, author of the Virginia Bill of Rights, which inspired our Constitution's Bill of Rights, said, "To disarm the people -- that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them."

Rep. John Lewis and like-minded people might dismiss these thoughts by saying the founders were racist anyway. Here's a more recent quote from a card-carrying liberal, the late Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey: "Certainly, one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms. ... The right of the citizen to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America but which historically has proven to be always possible." I have many other Second Amendment references at http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/quotes.html.

How about a couple of quotations with which Rep. Lewis and others might agree? "Armas para que?" (translated: "Guns, for what?") by Fidel Castro. There's a more famous one: "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing." That was Adolf Hitler.

Here's the gun grabbers' slippery-slope agenda, laid out by Nelson T. Shields, founder of Handgun Control Inc.: "We're going to have to take this one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily -- given the political realities -- going to be very modest. ... Right now, though, we'd be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal -- total control of handguns in the United States -- is going to take time. ... The final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition -- except for the military, police, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs and licensed gun collectors -- totally illegal" (The New Yorker, July 1976).

There have been people who've ridiculed the protections afforded by the Second Amendment, asking what chance would citizens have against the military might of the U.S. government. Military might isn't always the deciding factor. Our 1776 War of Independence was against the mightiest nation on the face of the earth -- Great Britain. In Syria, the rebels are making life uncomfortable for the much-better-equipped Syrian regime. Today's Americans are vastly better-armed than our founders, Warsaw Ghetto Jews and Syrian rebels.

There are about 300 million privately held firearms owned by Americans. That's nothing to sneeze at. And notice that the people who support gun control are the very people who want to control and dictate our lives.

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#1. To: Abcdefg (#0)

"A strong body makes a strong mind. As to the species of exercise I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion of your walks." Thomas Jefferson



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2013-01-08   22:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Abcdefg (#0)

Unfortunately, GOP politicians are either too stupid or cowardly to bring up the Founder's intentions when it comes to the second amendment. They talk about hunting or protecting our homes from criminals, but no one talks about our fundamental right to protect ourselves from criminal politicians and police. This is a huge mistake.


"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom

jwpegler  posted on  2013-01-09   9:35:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: jwpegler (#2)

no one talks about our fundamental right to protect ourselves from criminal politicians and police. This is a huge mistake.

And just who uses a gun to do this these days? Are you talking about shooting cops and politicians?

meguro  posted on  2013-01-09   10:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: meguro, jwpegler (#3)

JWP>> our fundamental right to protect ourselves from criminal politicians and police

And just who uses a gun to do this these days?

Mrs. Weaver's husband, Randy, had been sought on weapons violations. He and a family friend, Kevin Harris, also were wounded. They were charged in Mr. Degan's (Deputy U.S. Marshal William F. Degan) death, but acquitted by an Idaho jury.

http://www.apfn.org/APFN/RUBYRIDGE.HTM


The Weavers were awarded a multi-million dollar settlement against the US government. The JBT's tried to enforce an illegal infringement against the 2nd amendment, a civil rights violation... got shot and killed, and a jury said that the the government was in the wrong. Yes, we do need arms for protection against government tyranny.



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2013-01-09   13:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: meguro (#3)

Are you talking about shooting cops and politicians?

Were the Nazis cops and politicians? I'm not saying our cops and politicians are Nazis, but if I were in 1938 Germany and was a Jew . . .

Abcdefg  posted on  2013-01-09   18:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: meguro (#3)

And just who uses a gun to do this these days?

You may have to one day.

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"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2013-01-09   18:41:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Abcdefg (#5)

Were the Nazis cops and politicians? I'm not saying our cops and politicians are Nazis, but if I were in 1938 Germany and was a Jew . . .

But you're in 2013 America, and somehow, I just can't equate the two.

meguro  posted on  2013-01-09   20:46:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: meguro (#7)

But you're in 2013 America, and somehow, I just can't equate the two.

I know you think "It can never happen here" but look at the last century. What's to stop it from happening here? Only one thing, an armed populace.

Abcdefg  posted on  2013-01-09   22:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: meguro (#7)

But you're in 2013 America, and somehow, I just can't equate the two.

Did they kill more Jews or did we kill more babies?

Are you ok with aborting queer babies?

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-01-09   22:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#9)

Are you ok with aborting queer babies?

Queer babies? Lol, you're such an idiot.

meguro  posted on  2013-01-09   23:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: meguro (#10)

Are you ok with aborting queer babies?

Queer babies? Lol, you're such an idiot.

Thanks for inadvertently admitting you weren't born fucked in the head.

A K A Stone  posted on  2013-01-09   23:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Abcdefg (#8)

I know you think "It can never happen here" but look at the last century. What's to stop it from happening here? Only one thing, an armed populace.

And in the meantime, how do we stop gun violence? How do we stop criminals and the mentally ill from using guns indiscriminately?

No one is saying the entire population should be disarmed. That's hyperbole on the right's part.

meguro  posted on  2013-01-09   23:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#11)

Thanks for inadvertently admitting you weren't born fucked in the head.

Sure thing, dipshit.

meguro  posted on  2013-01-09   23:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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