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One note on one of the boxes read, “We had to thoroughly demoralize the enemies of God. This is to be done by means of destroying and blowing up the towers that constitute the pillars of their civilization, such as the tourist attractions they're so proud of and the high buildings they're so proud of.” In fact, a law enforcement official told the Los Angeles Times in 1993 that the materials “described major conspiracies and provided a road map to the bombing of the World Trade Center and the subsequent plot.” All that rhetoric and no response? FBI, shame on you again.
mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 13:58:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #216. To: All (#215) (Edited)
I've never heard this before, about the bombs being found.
And Nichols was NOT in the Ryder truck.
Jon Doe #2 was.....;}
" Worse, could it be that what was really emerging was a pattern of false flag attacks on the US, going forward to the Oklahoma City bombings of the Murrah Building on April 19, 1995? That bloody catastrophe was supposedly caused by a Ryder Truck containing an ANFO bomb, driven there by two lone gunmen, Timothy McVeigh, executed for it by lethal injection June 11, 2001, and Terry Nichols later jailed for life for it. As of November 8, 2006, Nichols was still trying to blow the whistle on the FBI's involvement in it and being denied access to reporters.
Also, first responders that awful day found two other live bombs and the remains of an exploded bomb. The live bombs were at each end of the building and subsequently removed and defused. The exploded bomb in the middle of the building was the one that caused the major damage and murder. The ANFO truck-bomb blow-up was basically a ruse.
mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 14:00:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #217. To: All (#0)
an AP story titled Gov't Log Details Oklahoma City (BOMBING Surveillance Tape) Footage: "Security video tapes from the area show the truck detonation 3 minutes and 6 seconds after the suspects exited the truck," the Secret Service reported six days after the attack on a log of agents' activities and evidence in the Oklahoma investigation.”
An OKC AP reporter Paul Qaery wrote of his interview with a federal law enforcement official who told Qaery that he had viewed a surveillance tape of the Ryder truck when it was parked in front of the Hurrah building. The tape referred to by the federal law enforcement source very likely would have been the same tape described by the Secret Service log because the source in Qaery’s story gives the same time given by the log, THREE MINUTES BEFORE the truck bomb exploded.
Qaery’s AP story was picked up and republished on page A4 of the Kansas City Star on October 28, 1995 in the article entitled “Camera saw figure in bomb truck, Oklahoma City video is unclear, but it may show John Doe No. 2”
mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 19:21:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #218. To: All (#217)
But the Secret Service log reported on April 24 and April 25, 1995, that there was security footage showing the Ryder truck pulling up to the Murrah building. The log does not say where such video came from or who possessed it.
A log entry on April 25 states that the security footage allowed agents to determine the time that elapsed between suspects leaving the truck and the explosion.
An entry a day earlier on the same log reported that the security video was consistent with a witness' account that he saw McVeigh's getaway car in the lead before a woman guided the truck to its final parking spot in front of the Murrah building.
"A witness to the explosion named Grossman claimed to have seen a pale yellow Mercury car with a Ryder truck behind it pulling up to the federal building," the log said. The witness "further claimed to have seen a woman on the corner waving to the truck."
mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 19:23:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #219. To: Fred Mertz, All (#218)
New documents obtained by AP show the Secret Service provided prosecutors other evidence that may not have been provided to defense lawyers, including a file showing the Secret Service agent who reconstructed crucial phone evidence against McVeigh was subjected to an internal affairs investigation and eventually cleared for her conduct in the case.
FBI officials say that file details allegations the agent wrongly collected grand jury-subpoenaed phone information about McVeigh's calls without FBI knowledge, and kept it for weeks while she produced analysis that helped the investigation.
The internal investigation caused complications for prosecutors. They decided it tainted the agent as a witness and they chose instead to hire an outside expert to re-do the phone analysis for trial, officials said.
Bopp said the Secret Service did nothing wrong.
"The Secret Service worked cooperatively with the FBI and other federal state and local law enforcement throughout the investigation," Bopp said. "The expertise of the Secret Service on electronic crimes and telecommunications provided unique and timely information to the ongoing investigation."
mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:18:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #220. To: All (#219)
"There's a shape in there, but they can't see a face,'' the source said of footage, which was taken by a camera on a nearby apartment building. The camera picked up the shadowy passenger about THREE MINUTES before the bomb went off April 19 at the Murrah Federal Building."
mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:22:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #221. To: All (#220)
What makes the existence of the surveillance tape plausible at one time (may have now been destroyed) is not only the precise times given, but also that a number of OKC bombing witnesses precisely corroborate what the Secret Service tape log described, namely that accomplices were helping McVeigh park his Ryder truck in front of the Murrah building. Here is more from the same article referenced above, “(Secret Service) Gov't Log Details Oklahoma City (BOMBING Surveillance Tape) Footage”:
“An entry a day earlier on the same (Secret Service) log reported that the security video was consistent with a witness' account that he saw McVeigh's getaway car in the lead before a woman guided the truck to its final parking spot in front of the Murrah building. A Secret Service agent named McNally "noted that this fact is significant due to the fact that the security video shows the Ryder truck pulling up to the Federal Building and then pausing (7 to 10 seconds) before resuming into the slot in front of the building," the log said. "It is speculated that the woman was signaling the truck when a slot became available."
mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:23:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #222. To: All (#221)
Numerous witnesses also described two Middle Eastern men in a late model Brown Chevy truck with a bug shield parked in front of the Murrah building as McVeigh was parking the Ryder truck. Witness accounts have these two men also helping McVeigh. The brown Chevy truck and its drivers were the subject of an FBI APB for two weeks in OKC after the bombing.
Leah Moore photographed the brown Chevy and the Ryder truck in front of Murrah at the same time that the Secret Service tape log says McVeigh was being helped to park the Ryder truck. The FBI confiscated Moore’s photos and told her not to talk to a famous LA times reporter, Richard A. Serrano, who came to see Moore about the photos.
mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:25:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #223. To: All (#222)
Dana Bradley testified in the Nichols federal trial that, while looking out of the Murrah Social Security office, Bradley saw a Middle Eastern looking man get out of the passenger side of the Ryder truck as it was parked in front of the Murrah building. KTOK radio reporter Carie Hulsey interviewed witnesses live at the scene within 5 minutes after the bombing who told the KTOK radio audience they had seen two Middle Eastern men running down the street and jump into the Brown Chevy a few minutes before the Ryder truck exploded.
The Middle Eastern looking men yelled at each other "lets hurry up and get out of here." The same Brown Chevy truck was spotted by witness Kay Herron a few blocks away and strongly identified one of the men inside the brown truck as McVeigh associate and FBI/CIA provocateur and informant, the Iraqi, Al Hussain Hussaini brought to OKC by HW Bush and CIA director James Woolsey after the first Gulf War. Woolsey is extremely close to Fox news and HW Bush and GW Bush. Hussaini was never interviewed by the FBI and disappeared while working at Boston Logan airport as a baggage handler up until the time of the 9-11 attacks.
mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:27:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #224. To: All (#223)
Danny Wilkerson saw McVeigh outside of the Ryder truck when it was first parked in front of the Regency Towers. Wilkerson said that McVeigh was looking up the street toward the Murrah building waiting on a parking spot. Wilkinson has said that McVeigh came into his snack shop at the Regency Towers and that a John Doe was inside the Ryder truck when Wilkerson spoke to McVeigh and the Ryder truck was parked in front of the Regency Towers. A surveillance camera at the Regency towers recorded what Wilkinson saw and the FBI and DOJ have only released portions of this tape. The FBI and DOJ have excluded the portions showing McVeigh walking in front of the Ryder truck and the John Doe sitting on the passenger side of the truck.
mcgowanjm posted on 2013-02-12 20:28:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #225. To: All (#224)
The Fox producer Peter Russo also falsely characterized to me what defense Stephen Jones has said about not receiving ALL the surveillance tapes in the OKC bombing. Fox producers also rejected my attempts to get Fox to report that the DOJ and FBI refused to turn over surveillance tapes as described in a ruling by Federal judge Wayne Alley in a FOIA lawsuit brought by OKC attorney Mike Johnston and plaintiff David Hoffman.
Mike Johnston won a ruling from OKC Federal judge Alley sharply critical of the FBI, OKC bombing trial presiding federal judge Robert Matsch, and DOJ for their intentional refusal to turn over ALL surveillance tapes relevant to the OKC bombing, This was reported in this Daily Oklahoman article on August 16, 2001 by Robert Boczkiewicz entitled “District judge criticizes FBI for keeping bomb files secret “
