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Title: The Deadly Liberal Fairy Tale of ‘Gun-Free School Zones’
Source: patriotupdate.com
URL Source: http://patriotupdate.com/articles/t ... tale-of-gun-free-school-zones/
Published: Dec 30, 2012
Author: Joe Dan Gorman
Post Date: 2012-12-30 11:34:05 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 14117
Comments: 30

The Deadly Liberal Fairy Tale of ‘Gun-Free School Zones’

Written on Saturday, December 29, 2012 by Joe Dan Gorman

Contrary to intent—the implementation of the Gun-Free School Zone Act has actually led to an increase in the mass murder of innocent American children.

This sign is not a warning. It’s an invitation and a green light rolled into one highly-visible, taxpayer-funded ’All-Clear’ Signal for any lunatic with a gun. And those of you who promoted, supported and/or voted for this inconceivably bad idea called the Gun Free School Zone Act are the very ones that placed these children is harm’s way…

You’d think liberals would be tired of having ‘the blood of the innocent’ on their hands. But I digress.

The arguments in favor of Gun Free School Zones are childish and irrational, requiring one of the variables to be that ‘we all live on Fantasy Island.’

“We have lunatics creating laws to protect us from lunatics.”

These Gun Free School Zone signs need to be removed now. Shouldn’t these lunatics at least ‘wonder’ that there ‘might be’ weapons? The number of ‘high-profile school shootings’ have exploded since these ridiculous Gun-Free School Zones were implemented in 1990.

Looking back at the past century ‘prior’ to the implementation of the Gun Free School Zone Act of 1990, mass school shootings were actually significantly more rare. I could only find four (4) mass school shootings (1989, 1979, 1976, 1966), and there may very well be more, but certainly not enough to challenge today’s “Gun Free Zone” frequency, as the following ‘partial list’ indicates..

•December 14, 2012, Adam Peter Lanza, age 20, fatally shot twenty children and six adult staff members and wounded two at Sandy Hook Elementary School

•Feb. 27, 2012 T.J. Lane, 18, allegedly entered Chardon High School in Ohio with a .22 caliber handgun and a knife. He shot four students in the cafeteria and one in the hallway before walking out, leaving three dead.

•April 16, 2007, Virginia Tech senior Seung-Hui Cho unleashed a rampage on the college campus, shooting and killing 32 students, and wounding 17 more people. More than a year before the massacre, in December 2005, a district court in Montgomery County, Va., deemed Cho “mentally ill” and “an imminent danger to self and others.”

•Oct. 2, 2006, a gunman took about a dozen girls hostage, killing at least three of them, at a one-room Amish schoolhouse in Pennsylvania’s Lancaster County, police said. The shooter was among the dead when police arrived.

•March 21, 2005, 16-year-old Jeff Weise shot and killed five classmates, a teacher and an unarmed guard at a high school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in Minnesota, where about 5,000 Native Americans live, before taking his own life. Weise had killed his grandfather and his grandfather’s companion before heading to school that day.

•April 20, 1999 -Columbine: These guys killed 12 of their classmates and a teacher, and injuring 21 more, before turning their firearms on themselves.

•Dec. 1, 1997 - three students were killed and five wounded at Heath High School in West Paducah, Ky. Michael Carneal, 14, and a freshman, later pleaded guilty but mentally ill to murder charges and is serving life in prison. He is eligible for parole in 2023.

•March 24, 1998 - two boys, ages 11 and 13, fired on their Jonesboro, Ark., middle school from nearby woods after pulling the fire alarm, killing four girls and a teacher, and wounding 10 others as they ran out.

•May 21, 1998 - two teenagers were killed and more than 20 people were hurt when 15-year-old Kip Kinkel opened fire at a Thurtson High School in Springfield, Ore., after killing his parents.

•Even Lunatics are smart enough to select the path of least resistance… every time. This is not even debatable. And it is this specific commonality that led each of these lunatics to attack the same type of target— Gun Free School Zones.

So, how is posting an absurd ‘Gun Free Zone”‘ sign on our schools any different from posting a sign on your home or business that says, “We do not have a security system.”? [Actually, it's much more reckless]

The president and his children are protected by guns. Congress is protected by guns. Many of the movie stars screaming for ‘gun control’ are protected by guns. Our money, our gold and our jewels are protected by guns.

•Our children are NOT worth less…

And there is not one single justification for keeping these “lunatic bait’ signs in place… but we have millions of reasons to remove them immediately.

AND… as if we needed more evidence, the lunatic that killed the New York Firemen on Christmas Eve was already banned by multiple Gun Control Laws from owning or possessing a firearm—yet this fruitcake had a Smith & Wesson .38 revolver, a 12-gauge pump shotgun and a Bushmaster .223 caliber rifle.

Imagine that—a criminal broke the law. Each one of these occurrences represent ‘the fly in the liberal ointment.’ The fatal flaw. Criminals by definition don’t obey the law.

The notion that more ‘gun control laws’ would have prevented any of these atrocities is simply more Left-wing Political Propaganda that hold ‘intent’ above ‘achievement’ and ‘politics’ above the safety and security of our children.

And any parent that knowingly sends his or her child to a Gun-Free Zone school should not be a parent.

MUST SEE TV: Enjoy this video if you haven’t seen it. Luby’s Cafeteria Massacre survivor, Dr. Suzanna Hupp testifying to Congress in 1991 on why ‘good Americans’ obeying ‘bad gun laws’ leads to death and suffering. Suzanna saw her parents killed right before her eyes by a lunatic. This lady is extremely articulate as she schools the members of congress on the 2nd amendment. Very compelling.


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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

“Where is Ryan Lanza? Where is the father, Peter Lanza? No interviews? No paparazzi hounding them 24/7...???

The only information I could find about a single interview being conducted with either the brother (named Ryan Lanza) and/or father (Peter Lanza) of the accused Newtown event shooter, Adam Lanza is here: [link to articles.washingtonpost.com]

In this article, a supposed interview that Ryan Lanza gave to a New York Post reporter via Facebook has been debunked.

Still no direct quote from either the brother or the father!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-30   21:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: CZ82 (#0) (Edited)

A couple of air-heads want to do something, once the smartest guy in the world figures out what that is. Uncle Joe will come up with a surefire solution. /s

Chicago with the toughest gun bans has passed the 500 homicides this year milestone. If only criminals would obey the law, this sort of plan might work?

Merry Christmas and Happy Gun Control, Chicago



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2012-12-31   0:25:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

“Where is Ryan Lanza? Where is the father, Peter Lanza? No interviews? No paparazzi hounding them 24/7...???

Still no direct quote from either the brother or the father!

I've been wondering about that myself, not a word....

Also haven't heard anything more on the guys that were supposedly arrested fleeing the area??

Makes you wonder if the truth will ever come out about this??

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2012-12-31   7:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#2)

Do me a favor if there is a transcript of this interview would you post that instead.... Because I cannot stand to hear his voice or see his face, makes me want to throw up!!

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2012-12-31   8:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82 (#3)

Also haven't heard anything more on the guys that were supposedly arrested fleeing the area??

Makes you wonder if the truth will ever come out about this??

Charles Manzianno is the guy in camo in the woods who told the arresting officers that he had nothing to do with whatever was happening at the school.

Good Luck with your google of that.

Black Honda towed off school lot belonged to Drug 'kingpin'.

And of course he had an arsenal in his home that he shared with his niece......;}

Good Luck on that one as well.......

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-31   10:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CZ82 (#3)

For shites and giggles I googled.

Must be a lot of folks hitting it, cause this came up.

UNRELIABLE SOURCES, of course because the USSAMSM seems to have other things to do......;}

# WHY IS ADAM LANZA'S BLACK HONDA SITTING IN GENE ... ► 2:09

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PNhXUqTvO8Dec 24, 2012 - 2 min - Uploaded by moviebuff407

ADAM LANZA'S BLACK HONDA WAS ORIGINALLY TOWED FROM THE ... Well, Gene has ...

More videos for Black Honda towed off school lot »

Who is Christopher A Rodia? , page 10 www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread910948/pg10

So we got a black Honda civic, owned by Chris Rodia, supposedly Nancy's car, ... I already pointed out that that car was towed early in the day. Did they bring it back to the school parking lot at night so the news crews could ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-31   10:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: CZ82 (#4)

transcript of this interview

There's none, but he said that Sandy Hook was the worst day of his presidency.

Translation: The best day of my presidency, since the GOP nominated Mitt.



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2012-12-31   12:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

So have you seen these...

youtu.be/8qEoYxqmyAM

youtu.be/ju_NllT1iDo

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2013-01-01   17:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CZ82 (#8)

"The Office of the Claims Commissioner is not the appropriate venue for that important and complex discussion," Jepsen said in his statement.

"Although the investigation is still under way, we are aware of no facts or legal theory under which the state of Connecticut should be liable for causing the harms inflicted at Sandy Hook Elementary School," he said. According to the claim, the unidentified child heard "cursing, screaming, and shooting" over the school intercom when the gunman, 20-year-old Adam Lanza, opened fire at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Pinsky's claim said the state Board of Education, Department of Education and education commissioner failed to take appropriate steps to protect children from "foreseeable harm" and had failed to provide a "safe school setting."

Reuters- Lawsuit Dropped for Now

Principal Hochstrung calls Newspaper, turns on PA System.....

and then goes to confront.......

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-02   9:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mcgowanjm (#9) (Edited)

Have you seen this one yet???

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/12/16/sandy-hook-shooting- discrepancies-not-conspiracies-yet/

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2013-01-02   19:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mcgowanjm (#9)

So who is Jepsen??

Do you have the whole statement??

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2013-01-02   19:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CZ82 (#10)

Page requested not found notice.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-03   9:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: CZ82 (#11)

Jepsen Addresses Request To Sue State For Newtown Shooting ... courantblogs.com/.../jepsen-addresses-request-to-sue-state-for-newtown-shooting/ - Cached 2 days ago ... In a statement issued Monday, Attorney General George Jepsen said his office ... Twenty students and six women were killed at Sandy Hook Dec. ... CT Politics App. Courant.com brings you the latest CT political news, blogs, ...

Don't want to get bogged down in the legalese.

There will be more lawsuits and plenty more to read.... count on it....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-03   9:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mcgowanjm (#12)

Page requested not found notice.

The net is flooding with conspiracy theory about this shooting. Most of them are total bunk. However there are major issues with the initial, and evolved reports; and indeed something is not passing the sniff test for me either. One website has begun collecting a list of all the discrepancies (here).

We are going to thin it down to the pertinent ones; can you think of any to add to the list? Starting with…. why the pictures of a 20 year old shooter as a child? Where’s the recent pics?

1.) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother’s ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan–who officials say is very cooperative–claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID?

2.) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?

3.) Where did he get the bulletproof vest? Guns stolen from Mom – vest too? If so, why did she need one?

4.) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in the school with only handguns. The police stated a rifle (long gun) was found in the trunk of his car. But now claim that’s the murder weapon?

4-b) What did he kill himself with? Kinda hard to use a .223 long gun.

5.) According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms, near the front door and office. So why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building through other exits where nothing was even close?

5-b) Why were the kids in the Gym told to cover their eyes exiting the back of the building?

6.) Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school, when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?

7.) What happened to the report that Adam Lanza’s girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?

8.) What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? Seen in overhead helicopter media reporting. He actually shouted to parents, “It wasn’t me.” Who was he and what was he doing there?

9.) The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector who obeyed the law. It appears she was diligent in her firearm responsibility. But since 20- year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her “autistic” son easy access to both guns and ammo?

[article] Last night it also emerged Nancy was a member of the Doomsday Preppers movement, which believes people should prepare for end of the world.

Her former sister-in-law Marsha said she had turned her home ‘into a fortress’. She added: ‘Nancy had a survivalist philosophy which is why she was stockpiling guns. She had them for defense.

‘She was stockpiling food. She grew up on a farm in New Hampshire. She was skilled with guns. We talked about preppers and preparing for the economy collapsing.’

9-b) The baby sitter for Adam (when he was 10) said mom was insistent he never be left alone for a second – even in the bathroom. But yet mom never secured the weapons?

9-c) How come in such a “small town” we have not heard about Adam Lanza’s primary care physician? Psychiatrist? Psychologist?

10) Would real parents of real children aged 6-7 really be satisfied with pictures of their children? Wouldn’t they demand to see their children one last time firsthand?

10-a) Not even one parent, just one, wanted to see their child?

11) According to the official story, 28 people died only 1 was wounded. The dead included 20 small, squirmy children — difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of recorded time?

12) When Ryan Lanza was falsely identified as the shooter, who deleted his Facebook profile? How did it reappear when he was in custody?

(article) Ryan, 24, who was originally thought to have been the shooter, was being questioned by police after he was arrested at his home in Hoboken, New Jersey.

He was on a bus on his way home from work when he was being named as the gunman and posted on Facebook that it wasn’t him.

Ryan Lanza had been extremely cooperative and was not under arrest or in custody by Saturday morning, but investigators were still searching his computers and phone records. He told law enforcement he had not been in touch with his brother since about 2010.

13) Why did the police say on Friday that they were going to leave the bodies in the school until Sunday, then Saturday morning announce that they had spirited the bodies away in the middle of the night? Perhaps to ensure that the transport, if any, would go unrecorded on photos or video?

14.) With a bazillion media there, staked out anyway, how did they pull off the body transport without even a single highpower telephoto lens photo? You know some media would have staked out the morgue too?

15) Did the school have one or more security cameras CCTV? You would think with a “buzz-in” entry system they would have at least one camera on the door, no?

16 ) Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), “[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school”?

‘Everyone just assumed he was a smart kid and that’s why he didn’t like talking to people all the time,’ Peter Lalli, 20, who graduated with Lanza in 2010, told the New York Daily News. ‘He hung out with the smart crowd.’

17) Why did police assign an individual state trooper to every grieving family? Has this ever been done before? Media concern?

18) Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it’s for their own benefit?

19) Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza’s brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?

20) What “exactly” did Nancy Lanza do for a living? Retired or not, how come not a single current or former co-worker is in the media talking about her?

21) Why would Nancy Lanza own a Bullet Proof vest? The media is framing her numerous gun collection as her being a possible ”prepper”, where’s the evidence of that?

22) Dad is a VP of GE Global Financial? And a witness in the LIBOR financial scandal? That deserves a looksee.

23) When was the last time you saw an M.E. give a presser in a labcoat?

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/12/16/sandy-hook-shooting- discrepancies-not-conspiracies-yet/

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2013-01-03   19:02:50 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CZ82 (#14)

Start concentrating on the guns.

Lanza had to be firing one round per second.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-03   20:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: CZ82 (#14)

Why is this man laughing/smirking?

The Robbie Parker Video

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKWgCRBR5qE

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-06   7:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: All (#16)

"It's as if they put all those mistakes there on purpose, so we can study it..."

"....And while you're studying that reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out.

"We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do." - Karl Rove - Wikiquote

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-06   7:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mcgowanjm (#16)

Why is this man laughing/smirking?

The Robbie Parker Video

Family photos??

So is she in the family picture or a close look alike??

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2013-01-06   9:02:22 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: CZ82 (#18)

The better question:

Why are we having to do this?

Brown eyes or blue?

"Adam Lanza was a vegan because he ‘didn’t want to hurt animals’."

So, there seems to be TWO locations. A real Sandy Hook Elementary School, and a mock up.

Imagine. Our. Shock.

ALSO SEE: James Fetzer and Nick Kollerstrom: Sandy Hook: Analogies with the 7/7 London Bombings (h/t Aangirfan & freethinker)

^^^^^^^

We keep looking at this Sandy Hook thing, and in the end, we think it's about humiliation. The social engineers are telling us, very clearly, that they can do whatever the hell they want, and the American people will be either too hypnotized to notice, OR, too powerless to do anything about it. It's very, very blatant.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-07   7:52:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: CZ82 (#14)

23) When was the last time you saw an M.E. give a presser in a labcoat?

It was cold December and not "scrub" weather. Seriously, this event has Karl Rove written all over it.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2013-01-07   12:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mininggold (#20)

23) When was the last time you saw an M.E. give a presser in a labcoat? It was cold December and not "scrub" weather. Seriously, this event has Karl Rove written all over it.

Somehow I don't think he just came out of Autopsy to give his little briefing to the LameStreamMedia...

So you're saying Karl is just as bad as a Leftard??

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2013-01-08   17:00:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mcgowanjm (#19)

Didn't know if you had seen this or not...

freedomoutpost.com/2013/0...dsofthesandyhookshooting/

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2013-01-11   7:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: CZ82 (#22)

Link does not work.

But have this info:

Can't tie Bushmaster and Lanza together.

Gun in trunk NOT a Bushmaster.

One shot per second.

Teacher won't open locked door for police.

Needs ID under the door and still won't after.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-11   8:20:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mcgowanjm (#23)

There have been some answers that have come forth with regard to several questions I posed earlier with regards to the shooting that took place in Newtown, Connecticut at Sandy Hook Elementary School. One comes by way of a video by Molotav Mitchell and the other by means of Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance. I appreciate the fact that Molotav exposes the fact that the weapon found in the trunk of the car was not an AR-15 of any kind. I also appreciate the fact that he demonstrates that it could very well have been a Saiga 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun.

I don’t know that he proves the point that an AR-15 was not used in the shooting, but he does demonstrate that an AR-15 was not in the trunk of the car.

The primary weapon used in the attack was a “Bushmaster AR-15 assault-type weapon,” said Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance.

For the record, I don’t believe Vance is actor John Goodman, OK? The man has been with the CT State Police for 38 years, not out in Hollywood doing Roseanne and the Flintstones. I also don’t buy into the fact that the attorney for James Holmes is also an actress who plays a part as a mother in Newtown, nor am I buying into that fact that pictures of the Parker girls with Barack Obama two days after the shooting contain Emilee Parker. Clearly this has been debunked.

Molotav’s point in demonstrating the weapon found in the trunk of the car is that the police eject a cartridge, which he refers to as a shotgun shell, and they do so from the side not the rear, which is consistent with both the semi- automatic shotgun and the AR style weapons.

As I’ve said before, there are plenty of questions yet to be answered and they involve eyewitness testimony and video footage. At least in the video Molotav answers one of those questions and that is with regard to the kind of weapon retrieved from the trunk of the black car seen in this video. For this, I’m thankful someone pointed out my own suspicions.

So, some questions I did have answered today by Lt. Vance per a phone conversation was that of other suspects. I sent him the link to the police running through the woods and pushing a suspect to the ground.

He told Freedom Outpost that “civilians don’t understand what takes place in these situations.” According to Lt. Vance, when police arrive on the scene of a shooting like this, everyone who seems “out of place” is held until they can confirm their identity and what they are there for. “Even if its a UPD driver delivering packages, he is held until his identity can be determined and his presence legitimate,” Vance said.

In the case of the suspect in the woods, it was determined that he was a man who was legitimately cutting wood and he was released.

Vance said that this was the case with the man the boy referenced as being handcuffed in front of the school, as well as, the van with the back window blown out. He said, “We had to make sure that the person driving the vehicle was not involved and fleeing the scene.”

Additionally, another question that remained was The Newtown Bee’s report of the principal, Dawn Hocksprung, calling in and reporting that a masked man had entered the school with a rifle and started shooting was also addressed. After contacting the publication, I was referred to their statement here, which reads:

Retraction And Apology

An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school’s principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack. The quote was removed from subsequent online versions of the story, but the original story did remain in our online archive for three days before being deleted.

We apologize for whatever confusion this may have caused our readers and for any pain or anguish it may have cause the Hochsprung family.

This clears up several things that seem to have gone unanswered. There are still questions. At least these have answers.

With that said, it will not stop the Left from pushing their agenda of demonizing AR-15s, as well as, all firearms.

Read more: freedomoutpost.com/2013/0...g-up-a-few-loose-ends-of- the-sandy-hook-shooting/#ixzz2HhrS79Sq

“We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammunition box.”

CZ82  posted on  2013-01-11   16:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mcgowanjm, CZ82 (#23)

Gun in trunk NOT a Bushmaster.

It's hard to tell the video is so crappy, but I see wood furniture and a charging lever on the right side being worked. It looks like a brass round falling off the bumper of the car. Could be a Ruger mini 14 Ranch Rifle, maybe? It could be a lot of other things too though.

The round that's falling out, makes me think that it's not a shotgun.



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2013-01-11   18:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: hondo68 (#25)

The way the LE Man cleared the round.

It ain't an AR 15....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-11   19:47:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: All (#26)

From what vantage point could that photo have been taken to account for that tree?

ideas.time.com/2012/12/15...id-lanza-target-a-school/

The discrepancies should be fading away.

They're not.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-11   19:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: hondo68, CZ82, All (#25)

"I appreciate the fact that Molotav exposes the fact that the weapon found in the trunk of the car was not an AR-15 of any kind. I also appreciate the fact that he demonstrates that it could very well have been a Saiga 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun.

I don’t know that he proves the point that an AR-15 was not used in the shooting, but he does demonstrate that an AR-15 was not in the trunk of the car. "

An AR-15 was not recovered in the school.

And/Or the Statement that one was has been contradicted.

THIS is why PICS/VIDS are taken of the Crime scene.

This is where the sensibilities of the Public come Second to Habeus Corpus....show me the Bodies.

Time to see them......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-11   19:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mcgowanjm (#27)

what vantage point could that photo have been taken to account for that tree?

I believe that the official story is... a helo. Makes sense.

Sorta weird that all the photogs were in the air. Flying around like busy bees.



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2013-01-11   20:40:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: hondo68 (#29)

I believe that the official story is... a helo. Makes sense.

Then I'll need to see the series of photos.

O and this:

In addition to the last 11 years of

Crime Scenes obliterated and Vids not shown, not admitted to, then admitted destroyed

we get IMMEDIATE Off the Shelf Legislation increasing the Reach of the State and Eliminating Rights of the Individual.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2013-01-12   8:38:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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