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Older Men - Keep One Foot In The Dark Ages When You Really Want to Meet the Diversity Requirements CERN to test world's most powerful particle accelerator during April's solar eclipse Utopian Visionaries Who Won’t Leave People Alone Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Opinions/Editorials See other Opinions/Editorials Articles Title: Libertysflame's Question of the Day: If we ban guns will there be an increase in knife related deaths? Source: [None] URL Source: [None] Published: Dec 24, 2012 Author: A K A Stone Post Date: 2012-12-24 00:45:54 by A K A Stone Keywords: None Views: 32333 Comments: 78 So I was thinking about all this talk of banning guns. If they ban guns do you think that there will be an increase in knife violence? I do. I know it If you are going to kill someone you are going to do it. Murder has existed since the first family. It will always exist. It is already against the law to kill someone. So by outlawing guns you are just taking peoples rights away and leaving them defenseless to someone can simply print out a gun and kill you anyways. It is pointless. Or is there an ulterior motive? 1. Would there be an increase in knife violence if guns were banned. (note you are dumb if you think they will stop with the guns currently targeted). 2. What is that ulterior motive? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 70. #4. To: A K A Stone (#0) So I was thinking about all this talk of banning guns. If they ban guns do you think that there will be an increase in knife violence? "They" won't ban all guns, not even most guns. So the question of knife violence is a completely different matter. I certainly do not have many answers with regard to gun control ...... But I do believe that there are some steps that can be taken that might make some sense, from a big picture perspective. For instance, effective at a certain date in the near future, all firearms must be registered. The registration must be renewed each year, and a registration tax must be paid. Additionally, all gun owners must pass a competency test, and carry specific liability insurance. In the course of normal law enforcement, when guns are discovered, absent valid registration and proof of insurance, the individual in possession of the firearm will be charged with a crime, and the weapon in question would be confiscated. Obtaining a firearm would become much more challenging, requiring a more in depth background check, including medical and criminal history, and a semi- annual drug and alcohol screening. (at the gun-owners' expense) Qualifying for Concealed Carry permits would require additional proof of competency, higher levels of liability insurance, a more thorough background investigation and registration with law-enforcement. Reasonable? Jameson  posted on  2012-12-24   8:36:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Jameson (#4) For instance, effective at a certain date in the near future, all firearms must be registered. The registration must be renewed each year, and a registration tax must be paid. Additionally, all gun owners must pass a competency test, and carry specific liability insurance. In the course of normal law enforcement, when guns are discovered, absent valid registration and proof of insurance, the individual in possession of the firearm will be charged with a crime, and the weapon in question would be confiscated. I don't think that is reasonable at all. In your scenario since it obviously violates the second amendment. You would want a constitutional amendment to implement this correct? A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-24   9:09:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #70. To: A K A Stone (#5) In your scenario since it obviously violates the second amendment. You would want a constitutional amendment to implement this correct? You assume that the government (at *any* level) still gives a crap about the Constitution. There is abundant evidence to dispel this notion as nothing more than wishful thinking. The Constitution is dead, I regret to say. This is abundantly clear from your original post, where you infer that gun confiscation is a possibility. If the Constitution mattered, your statement would be dismissed as absurd. Given the number of responses on this thread, it is clear that it's *not* so absurd. Pity. And to your original question, I've spent a bit of time in communist countries, where firearms were difficult to acquire. The weapon of choice when you wanted to kill someone, was a knife. In such a society where guns are rare, traceability is much easier; knives are so common that traceability is impossible, as a practical matter. Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-12-24   17:43:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 70.         There are no replies to Comment # 70. End Trace Mode for Comment # 70. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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