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Older Men - Keep One Foot In The Dark Ages When You Really Want to Meet the Diversity Requirements CERN to test world's most powerful particle accelerator during April's solar eclipse Utopian Visionaries Who Won’t Leave People Alone Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Opinions/Editorials See other Opinions/Editorials Articles Title: Libertysflame's Question of the Day: If we ban guns will there be an increase in knife related deaths? Source: [None] URL Source: [None] Published: Dec 24, 2012 Author: A K A Stone Post Date: 2012-12-24 00:45:54 by A K A Stone Keywords: None Views: 32330 Comments: 78 So I was thinking about all this talk of banning guns. If they ban guns do you think that there will be an increase in knife violence? I do. I know it If you are going to kill someone you are going to do it. Murder has existed since the first family. It will always exist. It is already against the law to kill someone. So by outlawing guns you are just taking peoples rights away and leaving them defenseless to someone can simply print out a gun and kill you anyways. It is pointless. Or is there an ulterior motive? 1. Would there be an increase in knife violence if guns were banned. (note you are dumb if you think they will stop with the guns currently targeted). 2. What is that ulterior motive? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 64. #4. To: A K A Stone (#0) So I was thinking about all this talk of banning guns. If they ban guns do you think that there will be an increase in knife violence? "They" won't ban all guns, not even most guns. So the question of knife violence is a completely different matter. I certainly do not have many answers with regard to gun control ...... But I do believe that there are some steps that can be taken that might make some sense, from a big picture perspective. For instance, effective at a certain date in the near future, all firearms must be registered. The registration must be renewed each year, and a registration tax must be paid. Additionally, all gun owners must pass a competency test, and carry specific liability insurance. In the course of normal law enforcement, when guns are discovered, absent valid registration and proof of insurance, the individual in possession of the firearm will be charged with a crime, and the weapon in question would be confiscated. Obtaining a firearm would become much more challenging, requiring a more in depth background check, including medical and criminal history, and a semi- annual drug and alcohol screening. (at the gun-owners' expense) Qualifying for Concealed Carry permits would require additional proof of competency, higher levels of liability insurance, a more thorough background investigation and registration with law-enforcement. Reasonable? Jameson  posted on  2012-12-24   8:36:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Jameson (#4) For instance, effective at a certain date in the near future, all firearms must be registered. Of course. A very reasonable request. After all,when has that never worked out and led to gun confiscation after the various governments that have done this found out where all the guns are. Nothing to see here,people. Move on. In the course of normal law enforcement, when guns are discovered, absent valid registration and proof of insurance, the individual in possession of the firearm will be charged with a crime, and the weapon in question would be confiscated. Nothing wrong with that,either. Makes good sense and it is very reasonable and moderate approach to solving all the violence in this country. After all,if people knew that murdering other people was illegal,surely nobody would commit murder,right? There is one pesky little thing standing in the way of this,though. The US Constitution,which says this is a RIGHT,not a privledge. While you are at it,which of the other 9 Bill of Rights do you want to nullify? Obtaining a firearm would become much more challenging, requiring a more in depth background check, including medical and criminal history, and a semi- annual drug and alcohol screening. (at the gun-owners' expense) Good idea! This will keep all of those poor darkies and rednecks from having guns,and our bodyguards get to keep theirs. The very people who need to defend themselves the most. Excellent idea! Other than that "equal protection under the law" nonsense,that is. Qualifying for Concealed Carry permits would require additional proof of competency, higher levels of liability insurance, a more thorough background investigation and registration with law-enforcement. Reasonable? VERY reasonable and sensible. IF you are a Nazi or a Stalinist. sneakypete  posted on  2012-12-24   11:07:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #49. To: sneakypete (#16) After all,when has that never worked out and led to gun confiscation after the various governments that have done this found out where all the guns are. What other "governments" have done, is irrelevant. "if people knew that murdering other people was illegal,surely nobody would commit murder,right? Straw man - irrelevant. There is one pesky little thing standing in the way of this,though. The US Constitution,which says this is a RIGHT,not a privledge. sp (privilege) Registering an inanimate object really has nothing to do with an individual's right...... While you are at it,which of the other 9 Bill of Rights do you want to nullify? Another straw man argument - boring This will keep all of those poor darkies and rednecks from having guns, Please keep your racist comments to yourself. Jameson  posted on  2012-12-24   13:46:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #50. To: Jameson (#49) After all,when has that never worked out and led to gun confiscation after the various governments that have done this found out where all the guns are. What other "governments" have done, is irrelevant. Why is it irrelevant? Are we a superior race and incapable of the evils of men of other nations? A K A Stone  posted on  2012-12-24   13:53:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #52. To: A K A Stone (#50) Why is it irrelevant? Our society, and our form of government is indeed unique in the world, and this point in human history is also unique. And we are not predisposed to repeat the mistakes of other countries, and to suggest that we are is moronic. Jameson  posted on  2012-12-24   14:24:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #64. To: Jameson (#52) Our society, and our form of government is indeed unique in the world, Which is why you want to change it to a mode that has failed every time it has been tried. sneakypete  posted on  2012-12-24   17:30:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 64.         There are no replies to Comment # 64. End Trace Mode for Comment # 64. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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