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Title: Libertysflame's Question of the Day: If we ban guns will there be an increase in knife related deaths?
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Published: Dec 24, 2012
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2012-12-24 00:45:54 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 78

So I was thinking about all this talk of banning guns. If they ban guns do you think that there will be an increase in knife violence? I do. I know it If you are going to kill someone you are going to do it. Murder has existed since the first family. It will always exist. It is already against the law to kill someone. So by outlawing guns you are just taking peoples rights away and leaving them defenseless to someone can simply print out a gun and kill you anyways. It is pointless. Or is there an ulterior motive?

1. Would there be an increase in knife violence if guns were banned. (note you are dumb if you think they will stop with the guns currently targeted).

2. What is that ulterior motive?

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#4. To: A K A Stone (#0)

So I was thinking about all this talk of banning guns. If they ban guns do you think that there will be an increase in knife violence?

"They" won't ban all guns, not even most guns. So the question of knife violence is a completely different matter.

I certainly do not have many answers with regard to gun control ......

But I do believe that there are some steps that can be taken that might make some sense, from a big picture perspective.

For instance, effective at a certain date in the near future, all firearms must be registered. The registration must be renewed each year, and a registration tax must be paid. Additionally, all gun owners must pass a competency test, and carry specific liability insurance.

In the course of normal law enforcement, when guns are discovered, absent valid registration and proof of insurance, the individual in possession of the firearm will be charged with a crime, and the weapon in question would be confiscated.

Obtaining a firearm would become much more challenging, requiring a more in depth background check, including medical and criminal history, and a semi- annual drug and alcohol screening. (at the gun-owners' expense)

Qualifying for Concealed Carry permits would require additional proof of competency, higher levels of liability insurance, a more thorough background investigation and registration with law-enforcement.

Reasonable?

Jameson  posted on  2012-12-24   8:36:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jameson, AKA Stone, sneakypete (#4)

For instance, effective at a certain date in the near future, all firearms must be registered. The registration must be renewed each year, and a registration tax must be paid. Additionally, all gun owners must pass a competency test, and carry specific liability insurance.

I guess the silly question I have is how do you plan on making all the criminals register their firearms???

All you are doing is making it harder for the average person to defend themselves adequately from the people I mentioned in the above sentence... And if you think the police are going to solve the problem by responding faster well that ain't gonna happen either, some people live "HOURS" from police response!!

Of course I know you don't see it that way because you think that what you think is right even though it's wrong, and that you also think money grows on trees!!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-12-24   11:55:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: CZ82 (#39)

I guess the silly question I have is how do you plan on making all the criminals register their firearms???

"Making all the criminals register their firearms"

Can't be done, However, illegally owning a firearm will result in criminals being incarcerated. Of course, lets understand that there are LOTS of nut jobs walking the streets who, if subjected to a simple background evaluation would not be allowed within 20 yards of a weapon. That is the point of this argument, I am not advocating any sort of gun ban, I am suggesting only that, our current approach has been a failure and perhaps some changes are in order....

Your point is valid, registration doesn't prevent all firearms from falling into the wrong hands - but it will help a lot more than pretending that nothing can be done, and sticking our heads into the sand....

if you think the police are going to solve the problem by responding faster well that ain't gonna happen either, some people live "HOURS" from police response!!

Now you're just making shit up...I never suggested such a ridiculous thing....not even a valid argument

Of course I know you don't see it that way because you think that what you think is right even though it's wrong,

I DO believe what I've said is right. - just because you say it is wrong means nothing to me - it is just your opinion.

and that you also think money grows on trees!!!

Again, I have not suggested anything of the sort, don't make shit up!

Jameson  posted on  2012-12-24   14:19:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jameson (#51)

and that you also think money grows on trees!!!

Again, I have not suggested anything of the sort, don't make shit up!

Uhhh yea you did when you said this... "For instance, effective at a certain date in the near future, all firearms must be registered. The registration must be renewed each year, and a registration tax must be paid. Additionally, all gun owners must pass a competency test, and carry specific liability insurance"...

Your solution costs money and money is something that some people need more for food than they need to spend on another tax to feed the insatiable/insane needs of the local and federal governments... Some people only have weapons because they were given to them or they inherited them, otherwise they wouldn't have them (because they can't afford them) and wouldn't be able to protect themselves....

The way I see it poor people have just as much right to protect themselves as people who have more money, don't you???

CZ82  posted on  2012-12-24   15:39:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: CZ82 (#53)

Uhhh yea you did when you said this...

No, you're wrong. You are inferring what I did not imply.

I never said a word about money growing on trees.

Now as to your point about all the poor people who would go hungry because they would be required to pony up a registration fee for each firearm they possess....

One word - priorities

Jameson  posted on  2012-12-24   15:54:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jameson (#55)

No, you're wrong. You are inferring what I did not imply.

I never said a word about money growing on trees.

I just pointed out the phallacy of your little plan!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-12-24   15:56:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: CZ82 (#56)

I just pointed out the phallacy of your little plan!!

Phallacy?

seriously......

www.dictionary.com

No you didn't You didn't even make a solid argument.

Jameson  posted on  2012-12-24   16:03:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#65. To: Jameson (#60)

Phallacy?

seriously......

www.dictionary.com

No you didn't You didn't even make a solid argument.

Looks like you don't know how to spell "dicked up idea" do you??

I haven't seen a solid plan yet if you really want to know the truth!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-12-24 17:31:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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