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Flopping Aces
URL Source: http://floppingaces.net/2012/12/22/ ... e-right-to-keep-and-bear-arms/
Published: Dec 23, 2012
Author: CJ
Post Date: 2012-12-23 13:16:46 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 15
“I don’t think legitimate sportsmen are going to say, ‘I need an assault weapon to go hunting,’” Cuomo said, according to the New York Times. “There is a balance here — I understand the rights of gun owners; I understand the rights of hunters.” Cuomo indicated the state will likely force some kind of permit process on owners of semi-automatic “assault weapons.” In addition to generating revenue and expanding the size and reach of government, the effort will allow the state to confiscate the weapons of citizens who do not comply. “Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it,” the governor said. This is the mayor of one of the largest states (population-wise) in the country! We have devolved into to a point in the gun rights argument that we’re reverting back to the very thing from which we sought independence. The Declaration of Independence lists several grievances that led to the Revolutionary War. King George was an oppressive ruler. He quartered troops in private homes to keep the citizens in check. He forced sailors to take up arms against fellow countrymen. He taxed them into oblivion without any representation. He made up laws on the fly to deal with trouble makers and denied them due process. In Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws of England (1803), St. George Tucker, a lawyer, Revolutionary War militia officer, legal scholar, and later a U.S. District Court judge (appointed by James Madison in 1813), wrote of the 2nd Amendment that, “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, and this without any qualification as to their condition or degree, as is the case in the British government.” Yes, I’m a nerd. I read and RESEARCH the meanings of the Constitution, especially the most fundamental and important of our rights. Delving further into the Appendix, Tucker explains further the meaning of the 2nd Amendment (emphasis is mine). This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty …. The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. In England, the people have been disarmed, generally, under the specious pretext of preserving the game: a never failing lure to bring over the landed aristocracy to support any measure, under that mask, though calculated for very different purposes. True it is, their bill of rights seems at first view to counteract this policy: but the right of bearing arms is confined to protestants, and the words suitable to their condition and degree, have been interpreted to authorise the prohibition of keeping a gun or other engine for the destruction of game, to any farmer, or inferior tradesman, or other person not qualified to kill game. So that not one man in five hundred can keep a gun in his house without being subject to a penalty. secondamendmentSound familiar? Today’s progressive movement has sought to turn the 2nd Amendment’s meaning into something it isn’t. Our lofty politicians – protected with their throngs of security guards, armored vehicles, and other protections – and their lapdog media have succeeded at convincing the “low information voters,” as Rush Limbaugh likes to say, that this right is meant to apply to hunters only. Or in your home only. In addition, they have tried to tell us that even if we were hunters, we “don’t need those kinds of weapons for hunting.” Nearly every argument I have with a progressive gun grabber usually ends incorporates the statements that there is no use for any type of magazine that can carry more than 10 rounds or to own a weapon that looks black and evil. Personally, I think that’s racist that they are trying to ban so-called “black rifles.” Another constitutional scholar to our Founders, William Rawle, wrote a book in 1829 called, “A View of the Constitution of the United States of America.” In this book, he talks about the reach and authority of the 2nd Amendment while also discussing the limitations on those that would attempt to circumvent it. He, rightly so, points out that the 27 words that make up the 2nd Amendment are composed of two, separate clauses; not one run-on sentence. Of the first clause (a well regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free state), he writes: Although in actual war, the services of regular troops are confessedly more valuable; yet, while peace prevails, and in the commencement of a war before a regular force can be raised, the militia form the palladium of the country. They are ready to repel invasion, to suppress insurrection, and preserve the good order and peace of government. That they should be well regulated, is judiciously added. A disorderly militia is disgraceful to itself, and dangerous not to the enemy, but to its own country. The duty of the state government is, to adopt such regulations as will tend to make good soldiers with the least interruptions of the ordinary and useful occupations of civil life. In this all the Union has a strong and visible interest. Some would point to the National Guard and say that this is what constitutes the “well regulated Militia” of the 2nd Amendment. However, such is not the case. The National Guard is frequently called upon to take on standing military operations. Our politicians and government have done a stellar job at preventing “the people” from forming their own “well regulated Militias” by labeling such groups extremist or seditious collections. Can anyone honestly say that if our government became so corrupt as to turn on its own people that the National Guard would be in place to oppose the regular military forces? We all know that the Guards troops are equipped with mostly secondhand equipment and arms. If – and this is a very long shot – the country was ordered into martial law either the National Guard would be called up to augment the active forces or would be defeated without support. This is why militia’s comprised of “the people” are included in the Constitution. Imagine if the people were allowed to form these militias in Los Angeles before the LA riots. Neighborhoods of people could defend their homes and businesses. Heck, one only needs to look at this picture from the riots of what property owners were doing to defend and protect their property. These citizens were protecting Korea town.
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)
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Yet the LA rioters thought they were a loosely organized militia of armed volunteers although more in the guerrilla style. Righting a perceived wrong, and in many ways no different than you. BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT A WELL ORGANIZED MILITIA ANY MORE THAN THEY DID, AND THEY TURNED TO VIGILANTISM, AND SO WILL YOU. And many neighborhoods did shoot back. But it still took the National Guard.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
You mean these heroes?
Them and 10000 National Guard and some Marines did the trick.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
In general the LA rioters knew nothing of the constitution.
I DO know that most inmates have a much better working knowledge of the US Constitution and their various legal rights than similar knowledge you display on this forum, and since they tend to be a highly incarcerated group you have no idea what they knew. They formed their own loosely knit armed volunteer groups, and will do it again. You seem to think that only one facet of US society is entitled to do this.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
How racist of you to assume because they were black they are former prisoners. I don't use the pc term inmates.
All lies. He understands nothing other than how to get in front of a camera and promote his own fame. He's the Dim version of Donald Trump. He's playing politics,and the truth doesn't matter at all. What is really ironic is that his brother Chris Cuomo,who is the legal adviser to ABC News was on ABC just last week saying gun control and gun registrations don't work and may even be un-Constitutional. I suspect it might be a while before we see Chris Cuomo on live tv again.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
BullBush! What these cretins though was "Hey! Dis be a gud time to go ratpack honkies,and ta steal stuff!"
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Nope,all the Guard and the police did was set up barriers to keep the homies out of the rich neighborhoods were all the people pushing gun control live. The people who lived there were left on their own to protect themselves and their businesses.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Not to mention the racist implication that black rioters understand the Constitution better than white people.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Is that really how they talk, or is it how you talk?
But of course it's not racist to mimic (or at least think you're mimicing) the way blacks talk. Right?
It's close to how homies talk when they are talking to one another. I believe it is what Cornelius West has called "authentic Black English". Most people refer to it by a simpler title,though,"Ignorance".
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Right? Don't know and don't care. I have zero respect for motherhumpers who were born in this country who can't speak English as good as some of the illegal aliens who have only been here a few years. If they don't like it,fuck them. If you don't like it,fuck you. Throw your lame-ass PC "racist" charges at somebody that cares.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Throw your lame-ass PC "racist" charges at somebody that cares. Merry Xmas to you too, Arch!
This is why militia’s comprised of “the people” are included in the Constitution. Imagine if the people were allowed to form these militias in Los Angeles before the LA riots. Neighborhoods of people could defend their homes and businesses. Heck, one only needs to look at this picture from the riots of what property owners were doing to defend and protect their property. These citizens were protecting Korea town.
#2. To: mininggold (#1)
#3. To: A K A Stone (#2)
You mean these heroes?
#4. To: mininggold (#1)
Yet the LA rioters thought they were a loosely organized militia of armed volunteers although more in the guerrilla style.
#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)
In general the LA rioters knew nothing of the constitution.
#6. To: mininggold (#5)
I DO know that most inmates have a much better working knowledge of the US Constitution and their various legal rights than similar knowledge you display on this forum, and since they tend to be a highly incarcerated group you have no idea what they knew.
#7. To: A K A Stone (#0)
“I don’t think legitimate sportsmen are going to say, ‘I need an assault weapon to go hunting,’” Cuomo said, according to the New York Times. “There is a balance here — I understand the rights of gun owners; I understand the rights of hunters.”
#8. To: mininggold (#1)
Yet the LA rioters thought they were a loosely organized militia of armed volunteers although more in the guerrilla style. Righting a perceived wrong, and in many ways no different than you.
#9. To: mininggold (#3)
Them and 10000 National Guard and some Marines did the trick.
#10. To: A K A Stone, mininggold (#6)
How racist of you to assume because they were black they are former prisoners.
#11. To: sneakypete (#8)
BullBush! What these cretins though was "Hey! Dis be a gud time to go ratpack honkies,and ta steal stuff!"
#12. To: sneakypete (#10)
Not to mention the racist implication that black rioters understand the Constitution better than white people.
#13. To: meguro (#11)
Is that really how they talk, or is it how you talk?
#14. To: meguro (#12)
(Edited)
But of course it's not racist to mimic (or at least think you're mimicing) the way blacks talk.
#15. To: sneakypete (#14)
If they don't like it,fuck them. If you don't like it,fuck you.
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