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Title: Pearl Harbor Dead Remembered On 71st Anniversary
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://www.thenewsstar.com/viewart/ ... d-remembered-71st-anniversary-
Published: Dec 7, 2012
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2012-12-07 10:53:10 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 2154
Comments: 3

PEARL HARBOR, Hawaii -- More than 2,000 people are gathering at Pearl Harbor on Friday to mark the 71st anniversary of the Japanese attack that killed thousands of people and launched the United States into World War II.

Ceremonies get under way with a moment of silence at 7:55 a.m., the exact time the bombing began in 1941.

The crew of a Navy guided-missile destroyer will stand on deck while the ship passes the USS Arizona, a battleship that still lies in the harbor where it sank. Hawaii Air National Guard aircraft will fly overhead.

The Navy and National Park Service are hosting the ceremonies, which are being held in remembrance of the 2,390 service members and 49 civilians killed in the attack.

Friday events also will give special recognition to members of the Women Airforce Service Pilots, who flew noncombat missions during World War II, and to Ray Emory, a 91-year-old Pearl Harbor survivor who has pushed to identify the remains of unknown servicemen.

Admiral Cecil Haney, commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, is scheduled to give the keynote address. The ceremony will also include a Hawaiian blessing, songs played by the U.S. Pacific Fleet band and a rifle salute from the U.S. Marine Corps.

President Barack Obama marked the day on Thursday by issuing a presidential proclamation, calling for flags to fly at half-staff on Friday and asking all Americans to observe the day of remembrance and honor military service members and veterans.

"Today, we pay solemn tribute to America's sons and daughters who made the ultimate sacrifice at Oahu," Obama said in a statement. "As we do, let us also reaffirm that their legacy will always burn bright - whether in the memory of those who knew them, the spirit of service that guides our men and women in uniform today, or the heart of the country they kept strong and free."

The Navy and park service will resume taking visitors to the USS Arizona Memorial, which sits atop the sunken battleship, after the ceremony.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

A co worker, long dead, who was there stationed in the Navy was quoted in numerous books on the subject as saying he saw German planes doing the bombing. He sure never lived that one down.

My dad who worked at Hickam as a civilian had been transferred back to the states less than a month before. His old barracks was blown to smithereens that day.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-12-07   11:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mininggold (#1)

Carlin is right. It’s all make-believe, religion, the history we’re taught, the value of money. Question everything and look for the inconsistencies and think about them. There are no rights. Power makes rights and we don’t have any folks we gave them away for security and because we’re too lazy to think and too scared to act.

"There is, however, one big problem with this official history: it’s a lie.

The truth is that, by the winter of 1941, the Americans had decrypted the various Japanese military and diplomatic codes: President Roosevelt, key members of his cabinet, and top military leaders, including Gen. George C. Marshall, US Army chief of staff, had access to this intelligence, which was intercepted, decoded, and transmitted directly to them.

We know this because Robert Stinnett, in researching his seminal book, Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor, obtained heretofore unknown documents under the Freedom of Information Act, which trace the intelligence stream from interception stations throughout the Pacific to the 36 Americans cleared to look through what was, in effect, a window into Japanese plans and preparations for the Pearl Harbor attack. The President and 35 other Americans in top political and military circles knew where the attack was to take place, they knew when it was to take place, and they watched it unfold, step by step, with full knowledge of its import.

http://original.antiwar.com/just...rl-harbor-roosevelt-knew/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-12-08   9:21:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Parrot: This article excerpt reveals the clobbering and withering that occured from Dec 8th 1941 onward to the fall of the Philippines.
In history past....Generals who screw up like this usually were beheaded/executed... before the King.
Mac keeps his power....and gets more....and there's lots and lots of Islands to invade and slug it out in the malaria infested swampy world.
If you survive the beach.....inland has more adventure awaiting.

excerpt:
The loss of the Philippines was the greatest defeat of the United States Army but it has not received the attention that such distinction deserves. How was it possible, with perfect knowledge of the enemy's plans and greatly superior forces, that the U.S. lost a strong defensive position?

There were four critical steps. (1) The U.S. bombers were sacrificed on the ground. (2) MacArthur prevented food, ammunition, gas and other supplies from being stored on Bataan. (3) The remaining U.S. airforces were sent away December 17 just as the main Japanese force approached in convoy without air- cover. (4) Forces had to be misplaced at Lingayen Gulf.

On the morning of December 7 (December 8 local time), hours after Pearl Harbor, MacArthur prevented air commander General Brereton from bombing Formosa. Dougout Doug further gave three conflicting orders that kept the B-17s at Clark Field on the ground most of the morning - bomb up, bombs off, bomb up. The Japanese attack was delayed because of fog. At 11:20, at the same moment that radar at Nichols Field near Manila reported a large mass of enemy planes approaching Clark from 140 miles out, MacArthur gave his final bomb-up order. MacArthur had about one hour to warn Clark and Iba Fields of the coming Japanese air attack and he did not. Instead he issued "Field Order Number One: Attack South Formosa at the latest daylight hour that visibility will permit." This order, time-stamped 11:20 A.M. but delivered at 11:45, is the one that kept the bombers on the ground at the critical moment. The bombers had to bomb up, be serviced and the crews rested for the late afternoon flight. This was the order that lost our airforce, given with full and complete knowledge that a large flight of Japanese bombers were coming in. MacArthur in his autobiography admits that "at 11:45 a report came in of an overpowering enemy formation closing in on Clark Field." *1 At 11:56 Brereton had to give a full report to MacArthur's Chief of Staff General Sutherland by phone, a way to keep both Brereton and the single phone line tied up in the critical few moments before the attack (note that Sutherland could have warned Brereton of the radar report but did not). MacArthur could control the teletype and radio but there was a danger that spotters would telephone Clark Field and warn them of the approaching planes. MacArthur said he was going to fight on the "beaches, beaches, beaches," but this plan which is sometimes attributed to MacArthur actually was imposed on him on 18 October 1941 by General Marshall. The plan to fight on the beaches was preposterous in October but after the Navy left and the air forces were knocked out on December 8, it was suicide. On December 8, MacArthur told his Chief of Staff General Sutherland they would have to "remove immediately to Bataan."

The Sacrifice of Bataan
Parrot: During the first Gulf war....as the mechanized rolled in to Kuwait and Iraq,.....as the guided muni's blew up all those bunkers in the desert,
the bio/chem warning alarms lit off....but hey...shut that damn thing off/ignore it.....we got a war happening ya know.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2012-12-08   12:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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