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Title: Pentagon Denies Claims General Was Fired Over Benghazi Attacks
Source: examiner
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/article/pen ... as-fired-over-benghazi-attacks
Published: Oct 30, 2012
Author: examiner
Post Date: 2012-10-30 22:40:36 by Brian S
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Views: 62254
Comments: 111

On Monday, U.S. military officials denied claims from a Washington Times blog that Gen. Carter Ham, former head of U.S. Africa command, may have been fired due to an intent to disobey defense secretary Leon Panetta's order to "stand down" while the Sept. 11 attacks in Benghazi were underway.

This story is gathering steam as Charlie Woods, father of slain Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, went on the Glenn Beck show this past weekend to claim that President Barack Obama had shown no remorse for his son's death during their meeting. (YouTube Video)

Over the weekend, a source inside the Pentagon informed Times reporter James Robbins that Gen. Ham wanted to send special forces units to help Americans under siege in Libya despite orders from Sec. Panetta to stand down. Ham was supposedly relieved of his command by a junior officer just before Ham was to order the rescue mission.

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#69. To: mcgowanjm (#68)

I've been fuckin with you since 05, SP.

As I said earlier,you are a loon.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   10:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: sneakypete (#69)

As I said earlier,you are a loon.

And as I said, I've been fuckin' with your ass since 05.

give me some info I can use.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-02   10:50:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: mcgowanjm (#70)

And as I said, I've been fuckin' with your ass since 05.

Uh,huh.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   11:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: sneakypete (#67)

Yeah,I need a loon like YOU to lecture me on reality.

Okay, then you tell us just where in the world, this pure form of capitalism that you expouse and believe is so economically superior, actually exists.

Surely some country has adopted it by now if it's so wonderful and productive.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   11:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: mininggold (#72)

Okay, then you tell us just where in the world, this pure form of capitalism that you expouse and believe is so economically superior, actually exists.

Ok,right after you tell us where communism works.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   11:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: sneakypete (#73) (Edited)

Ok,right after you tell us where communism works.

You first since I'm not expousing communism as a viable economic model.

Hopefully you wouldn't use a figment of your "imagination" as a working theory would you?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   11:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: mininggold (#74)

You first since I'm not expousing communism as a viable economic model.

No,you are so ignorant you expose it as a governing model,and are unaware that it is governments that dictate economic policies.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   15:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: mininggold (#50) (Edited)

Yet socialism is what every well functioning family practices daily.

Excrement. Socialism is a political system to coerce adults into doing things they would otherwise never do. A family unit- where the adults have total responsibility for their children- is a completely different thing.

The most dysfunctional families are those that consistently practice the current form of right wing type conservatism.

Please provide the empirical data that backs your claim. Otherwise, I'll have to conclude that you're just talking shit again.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-02   16:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: mininggold, sneakypete (#52)

Yet our current form of capitalism is doing the exact same thing.

We don't have a capitalist system any more; it's a corporatist system, also known as "socialism."

It's too bad you are too thick to see it.

Besides you, the only thing that's thick around here, is the irony.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-02   16:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: sneakypete (#71)

It would seem mcToeJam is cruising for a date, and thinks you're yukko the flaccid clown.

Yech.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-02   16:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: sneakypete (#75)

No,you are so ignorant you expose it as a governing model,and are unaware that it is governments that dictate economic policies.

But surely there is one example you can cite.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   21:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Capitalist Eric (#77)

We don't have a capitalist system any more; it's a corporatist system, also known as "socialism."

So... can you cite an example of a pure capitalism only economy? Sure one must have existed somewhere or sometime in history?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   21:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: mininggold (#80)

So... can you cite an example of a pure capitalism only economy?

Yes. America before your communist buddies in the Dim Party started taking over. This USED to be a great country,and then you self-centered parasites started shitting all over it by working to destroy the Constitution and change us into a democracy. Democracy is nothing more than mob rule with the country being ran by the lowest common denominators.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   22:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: sneakypete (#81)

mininggold: So... can you cite an example of a pure capitalism only economy?
Sneaky: Yes. America before your communist buddies in the Dim Party started taking over.

Correct. Unfortunately, we made it only about 15 years after the Declaration of Independance, before the quest for power and money were rearing their ugly heads. Alexander Hamilton was the piece of shit that allowed the first centralized bank to get going. Jefferson recognized it for the corruption it enabled, and shut it down.

Madison enabled the second centralized bank, and Andrew Jackson shut 'em down. His famous quote about banksters was "You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the grace of the Eternal God, will rout you out."

Socialism and communism absolutely depend on centralized banking, and one of the foundational pieces of a "managed" economy. So it's no surprise that commies and socialist parasites like loonyming would think capitalism is evil, and the socialism/communism is good.

She's fucking delusional. Of course, after the socialists kill anyone who could threaten them, they then turn on the stupid and non-productive (aka parasites). In other words, she thinks they'll help her... when the only thing the socialists will eventually do is get rid of her sorry ass...

It always goes that way.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-02   23:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Capitalist Eric (#82)

Correct. Unfortunately, we made it only about 15 years after the Declaration of Independance, before the quest for power and money were rearing their ugly heads. Alexander Hamilton was the piece of shit that allowed the first centralized bank to get going. Jefferson recognized it for the corruption it enabled, and shut it down.

Madison enabled the second centralized bank, and Andrew Jackson shut 'em down. His famous quote about banksters was "You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the grace of the Eternal God, will rout you out."

Socialism and communism absolutely depend on centralized banking, and one of the foundational pieces of a "managed" economy. So it's no surprise that commies and socialist parasites like loonyming would think capitalism is evil, and the socialism/communism is good.

That was considered more of a mercantilist type of economy, not capitalist. And at that time there was plenty of local taxes and revenues being levied by the various governments to pay for various projects.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-03   2:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: sneakypete (#81) (Edited)

Yes. America before your communist buddies in the Dim Party started taking over. This USED to be a great country,and then you self-centered parasites started shitting all over it by working to destroy the Constitution and change us into a democracy. Democracy is nothing more than mob rule with the country being ran by the lowest common denominators.

You obviously have no grasp of US history.

Like I said before, surely there is a date and place where this pure capitalist economy existed, but you will need to supply some documentation other than your fantasies and faith.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-03   2:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: mininggold (#83)

That was considered more of a mercantilist type of economy, not capitalist.

Mercantilism is the little brother of corporatism/fascism. Your claim, therefore, is complete SHIT.

And at that time there was plenty of local taxes and revenues being levied by the various governments to pay for various projects.

Really? Such as what? Be precise, now, as words have specific meanings.

And then go back and look at Article 1, Section 2, paragraph 3, of the Constitution.

Educate yourself, you silly, STUPID bitch...


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-03   2:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: mininggold (#84)

You obviously have no grasp of US history.

Is that right,comrade?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-03   8:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: sneakypete, All (#71)

MArket Manipulation

Election Fraud/Class Warfare

Climate CHange

Peak Oil

Tell me which of the Above that you disagree with so we can settle Exactly where on the POlitical Spectrum you lie.....;}

The lake's draining and the car wrecks, old tires, and skeletons are coming into view.....lulz....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-03   9:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: sneakypete, mininggold, All (#86)

You obviously have no grasp of US history.

Is that right,comrade?

And that's the thing about telemetry.....;}

You can locate precisely where someone lies.

Do you think mininggold is wrong about everything as well?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-03   9:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: mininggold (#84)

#67. To: mininggold (#65)

There you go again letting your utopian views of what you think is an economic system get in the way of reality.

Yeah,I need a loon like YOU to lecture me on reality.

Lots of loons around here.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-03   9:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: mcgowanjm (#87)

where on the POlitical Spectrum you lie.....;}

Nowhere. It's you leftists that have to lie.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-03   9:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: mcgowanjm (#88)

Do you think mininggold is wrong about everything as well?

No. I'm sure she must have been right about something at one time or another.

Granted,it was probably something along the line of "I think it's raining.",but that's better than nothing.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-03   9:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: sneakypete (#91)

Do you think mininggold is wrong about everything as well?

No. I'm sure she must have been right about something at one time or another.

So just me then.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-03   9:34:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: sneakypete (#90)

#87. To: sneakypete, All (#71)

MArket Manipulation

Election Fraud/Class Warfare

Climate CHange

Peak Oil

Tell me which of the Above that you disagree with so we can settle Exactly where on the POlitical Spectrum you lie.....;}

Which ones, SP.

;}

We're almost there.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-03   9:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: sneakypete (#91)

LOL.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-03   11:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: mcgowanjm (#93)

We're almost there...

It is not easy reconstructing 'molded minds'...

Brian S  posted on  2012-11-03   12:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: sneakypete (#86) (Edited)

Is that right,comrade?

Sneaky, don't tell me that you worship your capitalist ideal inspite of your inability to ever cite an instance where it's ever occurred.

And your attempts at distraction are duly noted as similar behaviors are generally exhibited by other religious cultists too, when they are called upon to explain the objects of their religious fervor, and they know it's really an imaginary figment in which they place their faith.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-03   12:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Capitalist Eric (#94)

LOL.

You still can't tell the difference between a tariff and revenue tax based system of local economies and pure capitalism... huh?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-03   12:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: mininggold (#96)

Sneaky, don't tell me that you worship your capitalist ideal inspite of your inability to ever cite an instance where it's ever occurred.

You worship your socialist/communist ideals despite them having been tried in several places and failing in each attempt.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-03   15:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: mininggold (#97)

You still can't tell the difference between a tariff and revenue tax based system of local economies and pure capitalism... huh?

I can tell that you're trying to frame the discussion, even though you've no understanding of the subject.

All the time that you spend trying to make yourself appear to have a modicum of intelligence... and you consistently fail, even in that.

What a laugh.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-03   21:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Capitalist Eric (#99) (Edited)

I can tell that you're trying to frame the discussion, even though you've no understanding of the subject.

All the time that you spend trying to make yourself appear to have a modicum of intelligence... and you consistently fail, even in that.

What a laugh.

All you have to do is tell us about your "once upon a time there was a purely capitalist economy that existed and everyone lived happily ever after". But please provide a little documentation next time so it doesn't appear to be pure fantasy.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-04   1:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: sneakypete (#98) (Edited)

You worship your socialist/communist ideals despite them having been tried in several places and failing in each attempt.

Yet all you have to do is tell us about your "once upon a time there was a purely capitalist economy that existed and everyone lived happily ever after", to prove your point.

It should be very simple for someone who has put so much energy and faith into the formation of their capitalist ideals.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-04   1:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Brian S (#95)

Redemption.

Last car to pass, here I go.

And the line of cars drove down real slow.

And the radio played that forgotten song.

Brenda Lee's comin' on strong. And the newsman ...

sang his same song.....

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-04   9:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: mininggold (#101)

Yet all you have to do is tell us about your "once upon a time there was a purely capitalist economy that existed and everyone lived happily ever after", to prove your point.

Yup,along with the additional information that it was cretins like you that helped bring it down.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-04   10:32:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: mininggold, sneakypete (#103)

Nice and to the point, mg.

;}

Check and Mate.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-04   10:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: mcgowanjm (#104)

To: mininggold, sneakypete Nice and to the point, mg.

;}

Check and Mate.

Sneaky must be trying to keep it a secret so only him and his fellow cultists know for sure. LOL

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-04   12:03:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: mininggold (#100)

All you have to do is tell us about your "once upon a time there was a purely capitalist economy...

There was no need. Sneaky provided the answer.

If your head is too firmly planted up your ass to recognize the answer, it's not my problem.

But please provide a little documentation...

That's the lovely thing about the internet... the documentation is literally at your fingertips. You only have to be smart enough to access it, and read it. That you fail to do so, again, is not my problem.

As to "pure fantasy," the only time I see such fantasy is when you post things you believe to be clever... but are obviously devoid of fact or intelligence.

Thanks for the laugh.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-05   16:57:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: mininggold (#105)

Sneaky must be trying to keep it a secret so only him and his fellow cultists know for sure. LOL

He answered your question.

(DELETED)

YOUR problem. Which reminds me- have you gotten your tubes tied, yet? God knows, we don't need any more idiot bitches like you in the world... it'd be better if you didn't reproduce.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-06   0:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Capitalist Eric (#107)

YOUR problem. Which reminds me- have you gotten your tubes tied, yet? God knows, we don't need any more idiot bitches like you in the world... it'd be better if you didn't reproduce.

LOL You are way too stupid to live.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-06   1:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: mininggold (#108)

<<< smirk >>>


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-06   1:07:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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