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Title: Pentagon Denies Claims General Was Fired Over Benghazi Attacks
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On Monday, U.S. military officials denied claims from a Washington Times blog that Gen. Carter Ham, former head of U.S. Africa command, may have been fired due to an intent to disobey defense secretary Leon Panetta's order to "stand down" while the Sept. 11 attacks in Benghazi were underway.

This story is gathering steam as Charlie Woods, father of slain Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, went on the Glenn Beck show this past weekend to claim that President Barack Obama had shown no remorse for his son's death during their meeting. (YouTube Video)

Over the weekend, a source inside the Pentagon informed Times reporter James Robbins that Gen. Ham wanted to send special forces units to help Americans under siege in Libya despite orders from Sec. Panetta to stand down. Ham was supposedly relieved of his command by a junior officer just before Ham was to order the rescue mission.

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#50. To: sneakypete (#49) (Edited)

A socialist is nothing but a communist that lacks conviction.

Yet socialism is what every well functioning family practices daily. The most dysfunctional families are those that consistently practice the current form of right wing type conservatism.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-01   12:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: mininggold (#50)

Yet socialism is what every well functioning family practices daily.

I never claimed it wasn't the perfect style of government for a family.

Or even a small rural village.

It's when it expands to include people you don't know and will never know,including the leadership,that it implodes.

Sorry if you are too thick to understand this.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   12:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: sneakypete (#51)

To: mininggold

Yet socialism is what every well functioning family practices daily. I never claimed it wasn't the perfect style of government for a family.

Or even a small rural village.

It's when it expands to include people you don't know and will never know,including the leadership,that it implodes.

Sorry if you are too thick to understand this.

Yet our current form of capitalism is doing the exact same thing. It's too bad you are too thick to see it.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-01   12:29:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mininggold (#52)

Yet our current form of capitalism is doing the exact same thing.

That's because it has become infected with socialist twits like you and the people you vote for.

And once again,I am sorry if you are too thick to understand that.

BTW,still waiting for Obummer to buy you a house and a car?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   12:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: sneakypete (#53) (Edited)

hat's because it has become infected with socialist twits like you and the people you vote for.

And once again,I am sorry if you are too thick to understand that.

BTW,still waiting for Obummer to buy you a house and a car?

Actually I own two houses outright, part of a ranch and four cars. And I just sold a Dodge diesel 250. I hardly need any more.

Are you actually kidding? Capitalists love socialism, because they can get their hooks into a large chunk of the public pie to cover their loses. It's just another facet of that free market to be exploited, baby..... where's there's no regulations or rules (except for the little guy).

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-01   13:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: mininggold (#54)

Capitalists love socialism, because they can get their hooks into a large chunk of the public pie to cover their loses.

I really should get paid for educating you.

What you are talking about is NOT capitalism,which is an open economic system. Only the insane would call that a open market.

What you are talking about is Fascism,which is the adult brother of communism.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   18:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: sneakypete (#45)

Not really.

yes.....really.

And loon?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   21:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: sneakypete (#46)

You seem to know alot about hippies...;}

I do.

No. you don't.

The problem here, sp, is that sarcasm does do well on the internet and that's what's throwing you above.

No more of that with you.

You're a Conservative who thinks Hierarchy is your god's will and the white man on top. No sarcasm....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   21:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sneakypete (#46)

Ok,so you don't know what anarchy is.

Look at you.

You're not going to stop.

You haven't seen an honest election since JFK/Nixon.

This is Plutocracy.

And you like it that way.

What we can fully expect is that as the frequency and intensity of these storms increases, then public sentiment will magically morph from a desire to drive an SUV guilt-free across five states to a weekend soccer tournament, to eventually realizing that something needs to be done. Of course, by then it will be far too late. In other words the current societal bias towards climate denialism has nothing to do with a rigorous scientific insight, it's strictly a propaganda reinforced consensus based once again on the fundamental flawed assumption that reality can be delayed indefinitely.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   21:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: sneakypete (#40)

There has ALWAYS been a difference for anybody smart enough to bother looking.

These lowland coastal areas that just got hit by Hurricane Sandy are now permanently blighted. If they had flood insurance, surely they can rebuild, but the likelihood of getting insurance again at any reasonable cost, just went to nil. And without insurance, good luck selling those properties. Which just means that all lowland areas along the coastal U.S. in the potential path of hurricanes are likely to be eventually blighted as investment capital dries up. Then of course, there are the impacts of rising sea levels which will obliterate those low lying areas not directly impacted by hurricanes.

Like all other aspects of comfort seeking reality denialism, the noose is getting tighter as mother nature demands amounts well past due.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   21:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mcgowanjm (#57)

You're a Conservative who thinks Hierarchy is your god's will and the white man on top.

ROFLMAO! I don't believe in hierachy,I am a agnostic,and I'm not even white.

No sarcasm....;}

Yeah,and ain't THAT a kick in the ass?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   22:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: mcgowanjm (#58)

You haven't seen an honest election since JFK/Nixon.

Reagan. He really surprised the powers that be.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   22:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mcgowanjm (#59)

These lowland coastal areas that just got hit by Hurricane Sandy are now permanently blighted. If they had flood insurance, surely they can rebuild, but the likelihood of getting insurance again at any reasonable cost, just went to nil.

You honestly don't have any idea at all what you are talking about.

And without insurance, good luck selling those properties.

Once again you prove you are clueless. You do NOT need insurance to sell property. You don't even need insurance to buy property.

Which just means that all lowland areas along the coastal U.S. in the potential path of hurricanes are likely to be eventually blighted as investment capital dries up. Then of course, there are the impacts of rising sea levels which will obliterate those low lying areas not directly impacted by hurricanes.

You really need a new hobby. Maybe you should take up skateboarding?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   22:12:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: sneakypete (#61)

Reagan. He really surprised the powers that be.

Yeah right. LOL

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   0:27:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: sneakypete (#62)

These lowland coastal areas that just got hit by Hurricane Sandy are now permanently blighted. If they had flood insurance, surely they can rebuild, but the likelihood of getting insurance again at any reasonable cost, just went to nil.

You honestly don't have any idea at all what you are talking about.

And without insurance, good luck selling those properties.

Once again you prove you are clueless. You do NOT need insurance to sell property. You don't even need insurance to buy property.

Which just means that all lowland areas along the coastal U.S. in the potential path of hurricanes are likely to be eventually blighted as investment capital dries up. Then of course, there are the impacts of rising sea levels which will obliterate those low lying areas not directly impacted by hurricanes.

You really need a new hobby. Maybe you should take up skateboarding?

Maybe if you could possibly point out where he is wrong, your declarations might have a little hint of veracity.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   0:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: sneakypete (#55)

I really should get paid for educating you.

What you are talking about is NOT capitalism,which is an open economic system. Only the insane would call that a open market.

What you are talking about is Fascism,which is the adult brother of communism.

There you go again letting your utopian views of what you think is an economic system get in the way of reality.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   0:34:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mininggold (#64)

Maybe if you could possibly point out where he is wrong, your declarations might have a little hint of veracity.

Ok,he is wrong in EVERY respect.

Hope that clears things up for you.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   5:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: mininggold (#65)

There you go again letting your utopian views of what you think is an economic system get in the way of reality.

Yeah,I need a loon like YOU to lecture me on reality.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   5:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: sneakypete, All (#62)

You honestly don't have any idea at all what you are talking about.

I've been fuckin with you since 05, SP.

You're some kind of Military, something arcane.

You got nothin'.

As we consider the middle [IPCC] scenarios AIM 6.0 and MiniCAM 4.5, we must bear in mind this very important point:

All other things being equal, anthropogenic CO2 emissions are a proxy for economic growth *

* "a proxy for" in this context means "provide an alternative measurement of", or "stand in for"

As things stand, and in the foreseeable future, anthropogenic emissions from burning fossil fuels will rise if and only if the global economy is growing. "

“It is beyond imagination,” Ellis said. “The only safe thing to do is shut down the system.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-02   8:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: mcgowanjm (#68)

I've been fuckin with you since 05, SP.

As I said earlier,you are a loon.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   10:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: sneakypete (#69)

As I said earlier,you are a loon.

And as I said, I've been fuckin' with your ass since 05.

give me some info I can use.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-02   10:50:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: mcgowanjm (#70)

And as I said, I've been fuckin' with your ass since 05.

Uh,huh.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   11:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: sneakypete (#67)

Yeah,I need a loon like YOU to lecture me on reality.

Okay, then you tell us just where in the world, this pure form of capitalism that you expouse and believe is so economically superior, actually exists.

Surely some country has adopted it by now if it's so wonderful and productive.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   11:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: mininggold (#72)

Okay, then you tell us just where in the world, this pure form of capitalism that you expouse and believe is so economically superior, actually exists.

Ok,right after you tell us where communism works.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   11:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: sneakypete (#73) (Edited)

Ok,right after you tell us where communism works.

You first since I'm not expousing communism as a viable economic model.

Hopefully you wouldn't use a figment of your "imagination" as a working theory would you?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   11:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: mininggold (#74)

You first since I'm not expousing communism as a viable economic model.

No,you are so ignorant you expose it as a governing model,and are unaware that it is governments that dictate economic policies.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   15:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: mininggold (#50) (Edited)

Yet socialism is what every well functioning family practices daily.

Excrement. Socialism is a political system to coerce adults into doing things they would otherwise never do. A family unit- where the adults have total responsibility for their children- is a completely different thing.

The most dysfunctional families are those that consistently practice the current form of right wing type conservatism.

Please provide the empirical data that backs your claim. Otherwise, I'll have to conclude that you're just talking shit again.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-02   16:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: mininggold, sneakypete (#52)

Yet our current form of capitalism is doing the exact same thing.

We don't have a capitalist system any more; it's a corporatist system, also known as "socialism."

It's too bad you are too thick to see it.

Besides you, the only thing that's thick around here, is the irony.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-02   16:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: sneakypete (#71)

It would seem mcToeJam is cruising for a date, and thinks you're yukko the flaccid clown.

Yech.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-02   16:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: sneakypete (#75)

No,you are so ignorant you expose it as a governing model,and are unaware that it is governments that dictate economic policies.

But surely there is one example you can cite.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   21:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Capitalist Eric (#77)

We don't have a capitalist system any more; it's a corporatist system, also known as "socialism."

So... can you cite an example of a pure capitalism only economy? Sure one must have existed somewhere or sometime in history?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   21:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: mininggold (#80)

So... can you cite an example of a pure capitalism only economy?

Yes. America before your communist buddies in the Dim Party started taking over. This USED to be a great country,and then you self-centered parasites started shitting all over it by working to destroy the Constitution and change us into a democracy. Democracy is nothing more than mob rule with the country being ran by the lowest common denominators.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   22:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: sneakypete (#81)

mininggold: So... can you cite an example of a pure capitalism only economy?
Sneaky: Yes. America before your communist buddies in the Dim Party started taking over.

Correct. Unfortunately, we made it only about 15 years after the Declaration of Independance, before the quest for power and money were rearing their ugly heads. Alexander Hamilton was the piece of shit that allowed the first centralized bank to get going. Jefferson recognized it for the corruption it enabled, and shut it down.

Madison enabled the second centralized bank, and Andrew Jackson shut 'em down. His famous quote about banksters was "You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the grace of the Eternal God, will rout you out."

Socialism and communism absolutely depend on centralized banking, and one of the foundational pieces of a "managed" economy. So it's no surprise that commies and socialist parasites like loonyming would think capitalism is evil, and the socialism/communism is good.

She's fucking delusional. Of course, after the socialists kill anyone who could threaten them, they then turn on the stupid and non-productive (aka parasites). In other words, she thinks they'll help her... when the only thing the socialists will eventually do is get rid of her sorry ass...

It always goes that way.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-02   23:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Capitalist Eric (#82)

Correct. Unfortunately, we made it only about 15 years after the Declaration of Independance, before the quest for power and money were rearing their ugly heads. Alexander Hamilton was the piece of shit that allowed the first centralized bank to get going. Jefferson recognized it for the corruption it enabled, and shut it down.

Madison enabled the second centralized bank, and Andrew Jackson shut 'em down. His famous quote about banksters was "You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the grace of the Eternal God, will rout you out."

Socialism and communism absolutely depend on centralized banking, and one of the foundational pieces of a "managed" economy. So it's no surprise that commies and socialist parasites like loonyming would think capitalism is evil, and the socialism/communism is good.

That was considered more of a mercantilist type of economy, not capitalist. And at that time there was plenty of local taxes and revenues being levied by the various governments to pay for various projects.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-03   2:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: sneakypete (#81) (Edited)

Yes. America before your communist buddies in the Dim Party started taking over. This USED to be a great country,and then you self-centered parasites started shitting all over it by working to destroy the Constitution and change us into a democracy. Democracy is nothing more than mob rule with the country being ran by the lowest common denominators.

You obviously have no grasp of US history.

Like I said before, surely there is a date and place where this pure capitalist economy existed, but you will need to supply some documentation other than your fantasies and faith.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-03   2:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: mininggold (#83)

That was considered more of a mercantilist type of economy, not capitalist.

Mercantilism is the little brother of corporatism/fascism. Your claim, therefore, is complete SHIT.

And at that time there was plenty of local taxes and revenues being levied by the various governments to pay for various projects.

Really? Such as what? Be precise, now, as words have specific meanings.

And then go back and look at Article 1, Section 2, paragraph 3, of the Constitution.

Educate yourself, you silly, STUPID bitch...


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-03   2:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: mininggold (#84)

You obviously have no grasp of US history.

Is that right,comrade?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-03   8:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: sneakypete, All (#71)

MArket Manipulation

Election Fraud/Class Warfare

Climate CHange

Peak Oil

Tell me which of the Above that you disagree with so we can settle Exactly where on the POlitical Spectrum you lie.....;}

The lake's draining and the car wrecks, old tires, and skeletons are coming into view.....lulz....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-03   9:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: sneakypete, mininggold, All (#86)

You obviously have no grasp of US history.

Is that right,comrade?

And that's the thing about telemetry.....;}

You can locate precisely where someone lies.

Do you think mininggold is wrong about everything as well?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-03   9:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: mininggold (#84)

#67. To: mininggold (#65)

There you go again letting your utopian views of what you think is an economic system get in the way of reality.

Yeah,I need a loon like YOU to lecture me on reality.

Lots of loons around here.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-03   9:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: mcgowanjm (#87)

where on the POlitical Spectrum you lie.....;}

Nowhere. It's you leftists that have to lie.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-03   9:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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