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Title: Pentagon Denies Claims General Was Fired Over Benghazi Attacks
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Published: Oct 30, 2012
Author: examiner
Post Date: 2012-10-30 22:40:36 by Brian S
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On Monday, U.S. military officials denied claims from a Washington Times blog that Gen. Carter Ham, former head of U.S. Africa command, may have been fired due to an intent to disobey defense secretary Leon Panetta's order to "stand down" while the Sept. 11 attacks in Benghazi were underway.

This story is gathering steam as Charlie Woods, father of slain Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, went on the Glenn Beck show this past weekend to claim that President Barack Obama had shown no remorse for his son's death during their meeting. (YouTube Video)

Over the weekend, a source inside the Pentagon informed Times reporter James Robbins that Gen. Ham wanted to send special forces units to help Americans under siege in Libya despite orders from Sec. Panetta to stand down. Ham was supposedly relieved of his command by a junior officer just before Ham was to order the rescue mission.

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#39. To: mcgowanjm (#36)

Once you invite the feds in they take over.

Like with the SS on 9/11?

;}

I honestly have no idea what you are making reference to.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-10-31   18:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mcgowanjm (#37)

ou're not a hippy. You are a communist.

There's a difference in your political world?

There has ALWAYS been a difference for anybody smart enough to bother looking.

One obvious example is hippies have no interest in obtaining total control over anything,much less everything.

Nobody says that about the political class.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-10-31   18:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#39)

Like with the SS on 9/11?

During an NSE, the SS is in charge of ALL AIRSPACE.

Like the NSE declared for NYC prior to the UN Meeting.....on 9/11.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   8:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: sneakypete (#40)

One obvious example is hippies have no interest in obtaining total control over anything,much less everything.

You seem to know alot about hippies...;}

But the above is the Perfect example of Anarchy....thanx.

And a BTW: Communists would shoot an Anarchist as fast as they would a Capitalist....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   9:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete (#38)

See obama likes cheney torture gitmo for details.

Sure. You seem to think that lack of the Bill of Rights only applies to the LumpenProletariat....;}

And I'm here to tell you that Only X amt of Privates get whacked before the Majors/Col/Generals and CongressCritters get affected.....

And watch.

Like pushing a patient out of an ICU before s/he's ready.

A previous slight, puts the patient back in remission or worse.

And speaking of useless...

Anything over 10 stories is useless or worse.

“Oh, I see—this is just going to be how it is from here on out,” said New York City resident Brian Marcello, coming to terms with the fact that an immense storm that cripples mass transit systems and knocks out power for millions in the nation’s largest metropolitan area can no longer be regarded as an isolated, freak incident, and will henceforth be just a normal thing that happens. “Hugely destructive weather events are going to keep happening, and they are going to get worse and worse, and living through them is something that will be a part of all our lives from now on, whether we like it or not.” :roll:

The Onion

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   9:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: All (#43)

The president kept staring at the screen and said nothing. Bridgeport came around to see for himself. A TV newscast showed Admiral Waite in uniform in one of the Capitol briefing rooms. ADMIRAL: GURNEY PLANS MILITARY COUP was splashed across the bottom of the picture. “—a terrible idea,” Waite was saying, his face bland. The words at the bottom of the picture shifted: RESIGNS AS CHAIRMAN OF JOINT CHIEFS. “But if this is how the American people decide they’re going to exercise their constitutional rights, the military’s job is to salute and say, ‘Yes, sir; yes, ma’am.’”

“Lon,” Bridgeport said quietly, “did you?” He had been told nothing of the military planning, but the president looked at him, and Bridgeport could read the answer in his face. “You’d better pack your bags,” he told Gurney then; his smile was gone, and his voice was suddenly that of the experienced politician explaining realities to a clueless junior. “They’re going to have your guts on toast.”

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...uld-happen-part-five.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   9:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: mcgowanjm (#41)

During an NSE, the SS is in charge of ALL AIRSPACE.

Not really. They can only request it be shut down when the president is flying in or out. The Office of Reich Security remains in control now that the FAA comes under their massive skirts.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   10:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: mcgowanjm (#42)

You seem to know alot about hippies...;}

I do. Even though damn near all of them are gone now,they were the only ones I am aware of other than people like the Quakers or Mennonites that just wanted to live their lives in peace and leave everybody else alone.

There's a lot to be said for that.

But the above is the Perfect example of Anarchy....thanx.

Ok,so you don't know what anarchy is. Not surprising,given your communist education and conditioning. You are conditioned to hate and fear anyone that doesn't want to become a part of the Borg.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   10:58:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: mcgowanjm (#43)

See obama likes cheney torture gitmo for details.

Sure. You seem to think that lack of the Bill of Rights only applies to the LumpenProletariat....;}

Those weren't MY words. I was quoting YOU,loon!

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   11:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: sneakypete (#46)

Ok,so you don't know what anarchy is. Not surprising,given your communist education and conditioning.

You have to understand... mcToeJam is actually a nerd from Germany, who attempts to write coherently on finance, and thinks his knowledge of finance can be equally applied to everything else in the world...

And technically, his upbringing is "socialist," not "communist."

Can you gimme' a Sieg Heil?


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-01   11:10:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Capitalist Eric (#48)

And technically, his upbringing is "socialist," not "communist."

A socialist is nothing but a communist that lacks conviction.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   11:51:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: sneakypete (#49) (Edited)

A socialist is nothing but a communist that lacks conviction.

Yet socialism is what every well functioning family practices daily. The most dysfunctional families are those that consistently practice the current form of right wing type conservatism.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-01   12:20:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: mininggold (#50)

Yet socialism is what every well functioning family practices daily.

I never claimed it wasn't the perfect style of government for a family.

Or even a small rural village.

It's when it expands to include people you don't know and will never know,including the leadership,that it implodes.

Sorry if you are too thick to understand this.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   12:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: sneakypete (#51)

To: mininggold

Yet socialism is what every well functioning family practices daily. I never claimed it wasn't the perfect style of government for a family.

Or even a small rural village.

It's when it expands to include people you don't know and will never know,including the leadership,that it implodes.

Sorry if you are too thick to understand this.

Yet our current form of capitalism is doing the exact same thing. It's too bad you are too thick to see it.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-01   12:29:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mininggold (#52)

Yet our current form of capitalism is doing the exact same thing.

That's because it has become infected with socialist twits like you and the people you vote for.

And once again,I am sorry if you are too thick to understand that.

BTW,still waiting for Obummer to buy you a house and a car?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   12:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: sneakypete (#53) (Edited)

hat's because it has become infected with socialist twits like you and the people you vote for.

And once again,I am sorry if you are too thick to understand that.

BTW,still waiting for Obummer to buy you a house and a car?

Actually I own two houses outright, part of a ranch and four cars. And I just sold a Dodge diesel 250. I hardly need any more.

Are you actually kidding? Capitalists love socialism, because they can get their hooks into a large chunk of the public pie to cover their loses. It's just another facet of that free market to be exploited, baby..... where's there's no regulations or rules (except for the little guy).

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-01   13:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: mininggold (#54)

Capitalists love socialism, because they can get their hooks into a large chunk of the public pie to cover their loses.

I really should get paid for educating you.

What you are talking about is NOT capitalism,which is an open economic system. Only the insane would call that a open market.

What you are talking about is Fascism,which is the adult brother of communism.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   18:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: sneakypete (#45)

Not really.

yes.....really.

And loon?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   21:38:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: sneakypete (#46)

You seem to know alot about hippies...;}

I do.

No. you don't.

The problem here, sp, is that sarcasm does do well on the internet and that's what's throwing you above.

No more of that with you.

You're a Conservative who thinks Hierarchy is your god's will and the white man on top. No sarcasm....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   21:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: sneakypete (#46)

Ok,so you don't know what anarchy is.

Look at you.

You're not going to stop.

You haven't seen an honest election since JFK/Nixon.

This is Plutocracy.

And you like it that way.

What we can fully expect is that as the frequency and intensity of these storms increases, then public sentiment will magically morph from a desire to drive an SUV guilt-free across five states to a weekend soccer tournament, to eventually realizing that something needs to be done. Of course, by then it will be far too late. In other words the current societal bias towards climate denialism has nothing to do with a rigorous scientific insight, it's strictly a propaganda reinforced consensus based once again on the fundamental flawed assumption that reality can be delayed indefinitely.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   21:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: sneakypete (#40)

There has ALWAYS been a difference for anybody smart enough to bother looking.

These lowland coastal areas that just got hit by Hurricane Sandy are now permanently blighted. If they had flood insurance, surely they can rebuild, but the likelihood of getting insurance again at any reasonable cost, just went to nil. And without insurance, good luck selling those properties. Which just means that all lowland areas along the coastal U.S. in the potential path of hurricanes are likely to be eventually blighted as investment capital dries up. Then of course, there are the impacts of rising sea levels which will obliterate those low lying areas not directly impacted by hurricanes.

Like all other aspects of comfort seeking reality denialism, the noose is getting tighter as mother nature demands amounts well past due.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-01   21:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mcgowanjm (#57)

You're a Conservative who thinks Hierarchy is your god's will and the white man on top.

ROFLMAO! I don't believe in hierachy,I am a agnostic,and I'm not even white.

No sarcasm....;}

Yeah,and ain't THAT a kick in the ass?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   22:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: mcgowanjm (#58)

You haven't seen an honest election since JFK/Nixon.

Reagan. He really surprised the powers that be.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   22:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mcgowanjm (#59)

These lowland coastal areas that just got hit by Hurricane Sandy are now permanently blighted. If they had flood insurance, surely they can rebuild, but the likelihood of getting insurance again at any reasonable cost, just went to nil.

You honestly don't have any idea at all what you are talking about.

And without insurance, good luck selling those properties.

Once again you prove you are clueless. You do NOT need insurance to sell property. You don't even need insurance to buy property.

Which just means that all lowland areas along the coastal U.S. in the potential path of hurricanes are likely to be eventually blighted as investment capital dries up. Then of course, there are the impacts of rising sea levels which will obliterate those low lying areas not directly impacted by hurricanes.

You really need a new hobby. Maybe you should take up skateboarding?

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-01   22:12:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: sneakypete (#61)

Reagan. He really surprised the powers that be.

Yeah right. LOL

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   0:27:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: sneakypete (#62)

These lowland coastal areas that just got hit by Hurricane Sandy are now permanently blighted. If they had flood insurance, surely they can rebuild, but the likelihood of getting insurance again at any reasonable cost, just went to nil.

You honestly don't have any idea at all what you are talking about.

And without insurance, good luck selling those properties.

Once again you prove you are clueless. You do NOT need insurance to sell property. You don't even need insurance to buy property.

Which just means that all lowland areas along the coastal U.S. in the potential path of hurricanes are likely to be eventually blighted as investment capital dries up. Then of course, there are the impacts of rising sea levels which will obliterate those low lying areas not directly impacted by hurricanes.

You really need a new hobby. Maybe you should take up skateboarding?

Maybe if you could possibly point out where he is wrong, your declarations might have a little hint of veracity.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   0:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: sneakypete (#55)

I really should get paid for educating you.

What you are talking about is NOT capitalism,which is an open economic system. Only the insane would call that a open market.

What you are talking about is Fascism,which is the adult brother of communism.

There you go again letting your utopian views of what you think is an economic system get in the way of reality.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   0:34:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mininggold (#64)

Maybe if you could possibly point out where he is wrong, your declarations might have a little hint of veracity.

Ok,he is wrong in EVERY respect.

Hope that clears things up for you.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   5:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: mininggold (#65)

There you go again letting your utopian views of what you think is an economic system get in the way of reality.

Yeah,I need a loon like YOU to lecture me on reality.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   5:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: sneakypete, All (#62)

You honestly don't have any idea at all what you are talking about.

I've been fuckin with you since 05, SP.

You're some kind of Military, something arcane.

You got nothin'.

As we consider the middle [IPCC] scenarios AIM 6.0 and MiniCAM 4.5, we must bear in mind this very important point:

All other things being equal, anthropogenic CO2 emissions are a proxy for economic growth *

* "a proxy for" in this context means "provide an alternative measurement of", or "stand in for"

As things stand, and in the foreseeable future, anthropogenic emissions from burning fossil fuels will rise if and only if the global economy is growing. "

“It is beyond imagination,” Ellis said. “The only safe thing to do is shut down the system.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-02   8:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: mcgowanjm (#68)

I've been fuckin with you since 05, SP.

As I said earlier,you are a loon.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   10:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: sneakypete (#69)

As I said earlier,you are a loon.

And as I said, I've been fuckin' with your ass since 05.

give me some info I can use.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-11-02   10:50:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: mcgowanjm (#70)

And as I said, I've been fuckin' with your ass since 05.

Uh,huh.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   11:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: sneakypete (#67)

Yeah,I need a loon like YOU to lecture me on reality.

Okay, then you tell us just where in the world, this pure form of capitalism that you expouse and believe is so economically superior, actually exists.

Surely some country has adopted it by now if it's so wonderful and productive.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   11:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: mininggold (#72)

Okay, then you tell us just where in the world, this pure form of capitalism that you expouse and believe is so economically superior, actually exists.

Ok,right after you tell us where communism works.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   11:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: sneakypete (#73) (Edited)

Ok,right after you tell us where communism works.

You first since I'm not expousing communism as a viable economic model.

Hopefully you wouldn't use a figment of your "imagination" as a working theory would you?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   11:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: mininggold (#74)

You first since I'm not expousing communism as a viable economic model.

No,you are so ignorant you expose it as a governing model,and are unaware that it is governments that dictate economic policies.

A wise man once said,"If you wish to live your life as a good man,try to be the man your dog thinks you are."

sneakypete  posted on  2012-11-02   15:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: mininggold (#50) (Edited)

Yet socialism is what every well functioning family practices daily.

Excrement. Socialism is a political system to coerce adults into doing things they would otherwise never do. A family unit- where the adults have total responsibility for their children- is a completely different thing.

The most dysfunctional families are those that consistently practice the current form of right wing type conservatism.

Please provide the empirical data that backs your claim. Otherwise, I'll have to conclude that you're just talking shit again.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-02   16:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: mininggold, sneakypete (#52)

Yet our current form of capitalism is doing the exact same thing.

We don't have a capitalist system any more; it's a corporatist system, also known as "socialism."

It's too bad you are too thick to see it.

Besides you, the only thing that's thick around here, is the irony.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-02   16:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: sneakypete (#71)

It would seem mcToeJam is cruising for a date, and thinks you're yukko the flaccid clown.

Yech.


"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-11-02   16:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: sneakypete (#75)

No,you are so ignorant you expose it as a governing model,and are unaware that it is governments that dictate economic policies.

But surely there is one example you can cite.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-11-02   21:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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