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Title: After almost 12 years of posting on LP I think I finally got myself banned. Oh well, it had to be said.
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Published: Sep 12, 2012
Author: me
Post Date: 2012-09-12 08:43:46 by Fibr Dog
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#8. To: Goldi-Lox (#3) and will do NOTHING to help them That would be the only smart thing he's done his entire administration. If you want to help them so damned bad then get of your fat, America-hating ass and head on over there. Israel must stop waiting, and ACT. They are a sovereign country. No one is stopping them. What you, Net-and-yahoo, and the rest of your America-hating buddies want is for the US to spend its money and American lives and do it for you while you sit around eating Bon-bons. Israel and you Israeli-firsters are like American welfare recipients. You think everyone owes you something. We don't owe you or Israel squat. Israel is just one of many Middle Eastern s**t holes that isn't worth one American life. And do it NOW before they are nuked! bwhahahahaha. Your stupidity and gullibility knows no bounds. Fibr Dog posted on 2012-09-12 8:35:43 ET Reply Trace
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#15. To: Ferret Mike, fibr dog (#12)
not to worry, yuklown and the other members of the gay canary posse troll over here all the time, looking for comments to run back to goldi with.
It doesn't matter. I'm pro-small government, anti-perpetual war, and anti-police state. In other words, I'm the opposite of everything Sally and LP stand for and believe in. The only reason I haven't been banned already is because I hardly ever post.
He does not see how the Israelis play clueless Bible thumpers like him like saps and clueless wonders. Which is not surprising. He is not as intelligent as Sally, and has few of her skills she got as a real life political activist for people like Ross Perot. In the world of people who use Neil's Pinguinite forum software, at best he is a towel boy.
Hey, I can dig it. Goldi's banning of me was a contrivance she built when I would not stop my badgering her about her pandering to Minutemen fascists. I don't blame you for being weary of the Machiavellian games she plays to mold her allegedly geared to free speech forum into a war mongering Neocon friendly forum that panders shamelessly to the Zionists.
Adolph, is that you?
He's too much of a cowardly dipshit for that.
That has nothing to do with why I don't post there much. I don't post anywhere much for two reasons. The first is that I'm trying to live my life in accordance with the teachings of Jesus Christ. However, I was getting so caught up with arguing with people on political message boards that I found myself acting in a most un-Christian way. One of my church friends I turned on to LP seen my posts and rightfully chastised me for my behavior. It made me realize that I had to make some changes. The second reason why I don't post is that I am in my third year of medical school at the ripe old age of 46. I plain don't have time. I live in one town and go to school in a town that is three hours away. So Monday - Friday and even some weekends I am at school studying. Therefore, when I get home, I focus on my family. The only reason I am able to post this week is because my wife had to go home for a family emergency and I am here with the kids. Luckily the third and fourth year of medical school consists of clinicals instead of sitting in a classroom, so I'm not missing out on a whole lot.
More power to you and good luck with your studies, and I am glad you are so well grounded. 'Jasmine' turned down my offer to help her with arguments on 9-11 when she was tasked by some in there for not buying into the lie about jetliners and JP-4 bringing the buildings in NYC down. I'd like to repeat some of her observations on eLPee and give mine on how I see how her experience of going into that place with her own account changed her perspective, but I will leave that alone. She has taught me by watching her post that she is actually a quicker study at picking up the thread of things in a forum than I gave her credit for, and given me similar observations about my posting as you say you got from people who read your eLPee posts that gave me pause on some things. So in these aspects of my posting and personal world, it's all been good too.
That was just a terrible accident. Anyone who thinks the Jews attacked America on purpose are stupid. It wouldn't have happened if we were operating in our sphere of influence. Like following the Monroe doctrine and non interventionist policy like all the Jew haters say they want when it comes to Israel. Here are the facts. There was a war going on. We were over there off their coast. We got mistaken. It sucks but it happens.
I have a deed to the Brooklyn Bridge I'll sell you real cheap, Stone. Interested?
The muslim religion is gutter trash. Not clean enough to wipe my ass with. People who follow it are evil and idiots. Screw all of them. I have no respect for their religion. Or your non made up religion either for that matter. I have no respect for any religion that is contrary to the teachings of God.
Is that the best you can do Mike. Some lame old saying. Sheesh.
Mike you have no sister that posts on the internet. You are lying.
The Muslims would behead you. They are not tolerant of sexual deviant sickos.
You need to walk through old Jerusalem with a cross on and count the number of wads of spit per mile.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Whatever Stone. It is not requisite you believe this anyway. Some people still believe my old friend Raisedeyebrows who used to post at eLPee with me when we ran the Community Media Center in Eugene was me as well. I am done with worrying about such stupidity like this.
So in other words, you are channeling your impression of how a good Muslim would talk to him, yes? The only sicko I see here is you.
Some people still believe my old friend Raisedeyebrows who used to post at eLPee with me when we ran the Community Media Center in Eugene was me as well. I am done with worrying about such stupidity like this. Stone is Barry Goldwater's worst nightmare come true.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
If Barry were alive, Stone would sneer and call him a RINO. And I doubt he would find a friendly home in the rest of contemporary GOPers little world as well.
Then I guess the entire surviving crew of thew USS Liberty is stupid. I guess that Captain Ward Boston, the chief counsel to the Navy's Board of Inquiry into the incident is stupid. I guess the former Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Thomas Moorer, Medal of Honor recipient General Raymond G. Davis, Former Assistant Commandant of The Marine Corps, Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, Former Judge Advocate General Of The Navy, and Ambassador James Akins, Former United States Ambassador to Saudi Arabia are all stupid as well. I guess Lieutenant Commander David E. Lewis, the USS Liberty's chief intelligence officer, was lying when he "stated under oath that In a conversation with Admiral Lawrence R. Geis, the Sixth Fleet carrier division commander, who visited Lewis after he had been medically evacuated by helicopter to the aircraft carrier USS America. According to Lewis, "He (Admiral Geis) said that he wanted somebody to know that we weren't forgotten" attempts HAD been made to come to our assistance. He said that he had launched a flight of aircraft to come to our assistance, and he had then called Washington. Secretary McNamara came on the line and ordered the recall of the aircraft, which he did. Concurrently he said that since he suspected that they were afraid that there might have been nuclear weapons on board, he reconfigured another flight of aircraft - strictly conventional weaponry - and re-launched it. After the second launch, he again called Washington to let them know what was going on. Again, Secretary McNamara ordered the aircraft recalled. Not understanding why, he requested confirmation of the order; and the next higher in command came on to confirm that "President Johnson...with the instructions that the aircraft were to be returned, that he would not have his allies embarrassed, he didn't care who was killed or what was done to the ship "words" to that effect. With that, Admiral Geis swore me to secrecy for his lifetime. I had been silent up until I found out from Admiral Moorer that Admiral Geis had passed away" [transcript from NBC's Liberty Story, aired on national television 1/27/92]. This statement by Commander Lewis has recently been corroborated by Tony Hart, a Navy communications technician stationed at the U.S. Navy Base in Morocco in June, 1967. Mr. Hart connected the telephone conversation between Secretary McNamara and Admiral Geis and stayed on the line to keep them connected. Hart has been recorded as saying that he overheard Admiral Geis refusing McNamara's order to recall the Sixth Fleet rescue aircraft while the ship was under attack. Mr. Hart reported that McNamara responded, "we are not going to war over a bunch of dead sailors." I guess the intercepted radio communications between attacking Israeli pilots and the Israeli War Room, recorded by a U.S. Navy EC-121 spy plane, in which the Israeli pilots report seeing Liberty's American flag flying is all just made up bullshit. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you have never bothered to investigate the issue and are making your decision based on preconceived notions. The dead of the USS Liberty deserve better from someone claiming to be a patriot.
Those are not the facts. We were in international waters. We were not mistaken. That is an outright lie.
He is a John Hagee stooge who thinks that Armageddon requires a turning of his back on is cynically murdered countrymen who died in the deliberate attack on the Liberty. You are not going to talk sense into that thick head.
Stone will die in hell if we don't defend Israels interests with every native son and daughter's life. I don't remember him saying he or his ever personally participated though. Evidently rah-rahing from the sidelines also counts.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he has never looked into the issue. I once believed as he did until I was given the information and took the time to look into it.
Best of luck with that. My experience though is that he thinks facts are inconvenient things.
I agree one hundred percent. We shouldn't have been there. But we were there. In international waters. We weren't even close to Israeli waters. So I guess you have no problem with the Libyans murdering our Ambassador and other embassy personnel. After all, "It wouldn't have happened if we were operating in our sphere of influence. Like following the Monroe doctrine and non interventionist policy."
muslim brotherhood kook lib neocom gospel - tautology ... ranting endlessly --- w / o reality !
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REALLY... Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role. According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack. He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested. Later, a dual-citizen Israeli major told survivors that he was in an Israeli war room where he heard that pilot's radio report. The attacking pilots and everyone in the Israeli war room knew that they were attacking an American ship, the major said. He recanted the statement only after he received threatening phone calls from Israel. The pilot's protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon. Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities. Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts of Israeli treachery. Said Retired Adm. Thomas Moorer: "The Israeli forces circled the ship and then proceeded to attack over an extended period of time. There is Simply no way the fighter pilots and torpedo boat crews could have come to such a conclusion," he said. Other pertinent facts: * The radio jamming is by itself damning evidence that the assailants knew exactly whom they were attacking. Such jamming requires intimate advance knowledge of the target being jammed, obtained by extended monitoring of its signals. And this was selective jamming; it struck Liberty's frequencies and no others. Afterward, in one of their ever changing explanations, the Israelis claimed to have learned the ship's identity when they heard its distress signals. But the attack continued for sixty six minutes after the first distress signal, which the Israelis had jammed, was sent. Had this particular Israeli claim been true, they would have recalled the torpedo boats before they even reached the ship. * The Israelis claimed that the ship's U.S. flag hung limp because there was no wind. Later, when presented with the fact that the flag had been perfectly visible, they claimed that they thought that the ship was an enemy vessel flying false colors. The extended radio monitoring, exposing considerable advance investigation of Liberty's communication facilities, refutes this claim. * The Israelis claimed that the torpedo boats, after first sighting the ship, had called in the aircraft to attack after the ship refused to identify itself. This is an obvious lie, because the attack was clearly a preplanned and well coordinated onetwo punch employing different branches of the Israeli Defense Forces. The jets were already intent on attacking the ship before the Liberty came into the torpedo boats' radar range. Directly contradicting themselves, the Israelis later claimed that their aircraft had called in the torpedo boats. Immediately preceding the attack, an Israeli pilot recognized Liberty as a U.S. ship and radioed this information to IDF headquarters. He was instructed to attack anyway. This dialogue was intercepted at the U.S. embassy in Beirut. Former U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter revealed the existence of this intercept in 1991. From here: Chief Legal Counsel to the Board of Inquiry Capt. Ward Boston and president of the Court Adm. Isaac C. Kidd felt it necessary to travel to Israel and interview those who had taken part in the attack. They were rebuffed in that effort by Adm. John S. McCain Jr., then serving as Commander-in-Chief, Naval Forces Europe. Adm. McCain would not allow the two any contact with the Israelis. In a sworn affidavit, Capt. Ward Boston (ret.) made the following statements concurring with the cover-up of the USS Liberty attack: “I know from personal conversations I had with Admiral Kidd that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of ‘mistaken identity’ despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Admiral Kidd told me, after returning from Washington D.C. that he had been ordered to sit down with two civilians from either the White House or the Defense Department, and rewrite portions of the court’s findings. Admiral Kidd also told me that he had been ordered to ‘put the lid’ on everything having to do with the attack on USS Liberty. We were never to speak of it and we were to caution everyone else involved that they could never speak of it again. .... In 1982, an Israeli pilot who took part in the attack, Evan Toni, spoke extensively with Rep. Paul McCloskey (R-CA). He told McCloskey that his superiors told him to ignore the markings and U.S. flag. Toni claimed that he and another pilot radioed base and clearly identified the ship as American. Both refused and were immediately arrested upon returning to base. Former U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon, Dwight Porter, confirmed the pilot’s account. Porter told columnist Robert Novak that he heard the exchange as radio transmissions were being monitored from the embassy. And so, stone, do you still believe the bullshit that's been spoon-fed to you? Here are the facts. There was a war going on. We were over there off their coast. We got mistaken. It sucks but it happens. As usual, talking shit about things you know NOTHING about. You should be embarrassed. But you're not, of course. Your religious fervor makes you arrogant, stupid and blind. ALL of the comments by Fibr Dog are spot-on. YOU are the one who is mistaken... in a great many things.
I worked for the army equivalent of these sailors at that time and it's a known fact the isreali air force knew exactly who they were attacking.
do you really have to post disgusting shit like that, stop disrespecting a dead american, the man has family asshole show a little class.
the man has family asshole show a little class." Seconded.
Excellent summary. For a long while, I was one who never questioned the MSM regarding Israel, and IIRC, it was Alex Jones who mentioned USS Liberty, and that started my digging... about five years ago. Learning what I did, I realized that Israel is NOT our "friend," never was, never will be... They're perfectly happy to manipulate things so that they never get their hands dirty, never get held responsible for the results of their own actions. They're users, pure and simple. This, BTW, is exactly why the Israelis attacked the Liberty, jammed the communications and tried to sink her with a torpedo. Bottom line, the Israelis wanted the USA to come to their aid. They wanted (and tried hard) to sink one of our ships before it could call for assistance, and then blame it on Egypt. The only problem was, the ship didn't sink according to their plans, and the excuses and coverups were required. Otherwise, we would have to acknowledge that a supposed "friend" conducted an ACT OF WAR on us, and we'd have to kick their sorry asses... I will not give him any such benefit. He pushes the Israel-first agenda, and pushes a bunch of lies, to further that agenda. He claims intimate knowledge of many things, yet his words demonstrate that he's merely another useless idiot. He doesn't deserve the respect conferred by giving him "the benefit of the doubt," IMO. Instead, he deserves contempt for his willful ignorance. For this, there can be no excuse. Agreed. But stone is no more an American patriot, than Israel is America's friend.
Very well put. Thank you.
Says the kook asshole that wants to keep a socialist in the White House. You hate Isael more then you love America. You are delusional nutcase.
Says the Satan worshiping Obama stooge.
Good bye obomba bridge to the 21st century recollapse !
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It is a result of the foreign policy that Satans Ferret voted for. You know the fruity one that is ashamed of his pic he used to sport on his profile.
Here is the fact Mike. You voted for a queer muslim for President. You aren't a real American. You're just some loser with an internet connection. A covetous bastard producer.
Predictable, you do the usual and project the accusation someone has Obama's cooties because you cannot articulate any rebuttal. Save me from the one size fits all rebuttals typical of you. Instead, you should really shock everybody here and give an informed response or opinion on the USS Liberty that makes sense.
Great movie I hear.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI agree. Hopefully she won't find this 'high five' thread here if it would tip the balance to a ban.
#16. To: Ferret Mike (#12)
I agree. Hopefully she won't find this 'high five' thread here if it would tip the balance to a ban.
#17. To: Fred Mertz (#13)
#18. To: Fibr Dog (#16)
"It doesn't matter. I'm pro-small government, anti-perpetual war, and anti-police state. In other words, I'm the opposite of everything Sally and LP stand for and believe in. The only reason I haven't been banned already is because I hardly ever post."
#19. To: A K A Stone (#1)
I think we should get the Muslims out of America and maybe the earth.
#20. To: Fibr Dog (#3)
You want the Muslims out of the US and off the Earth then by all means take up a weapon and do it.
#21. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
I don't blame you for being weary of the Machiavellian games she plays to mold her allegedly geared to free speech forum into a war mongering Neocon friendly forum that panders shamelessly to the Zionists.
#22. To: Fibr Dog (#21)
#23. To: Fibr Dog (#3)
Tell that to the families of the murdered sailors on the USS Liberty.
#24. To: A K A Stone (#23)
#25. To: Ferret Mike (#11)
Notice Stone is so excited that his own irrational hatred of three billion people
#26. To: Ferret Mike (#24)
I have a deed to the Brooklyn Bridge I'll sell you real cheap, Stone. Interested?
#27. To: Ferret Mike (#22)
'Jasmine' turned down my offer to help her with arguments on 9-11
#28. To: meguro (#19)
Adolph, is that you?
#29. To: A K A Stone (#28)
The Muslims would behead you. They are not tolerant of sexual deviant sickos.
#30. To: A K A Stone (#27)
#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)
"They are not tolerant of sexual deviant sickos."
#32. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone (#30)
Whatever Stone. It is not requisite you believe this anyway.
#33. To: mininggold (#32)
#34. To: A K A Stone (#23)
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That was just a terrible accident. Anyone who thinks the Jews attacked America on purpose are stupid.
#35. To: A K A Stone (#23)
Here are the facts. There was a war going on. We were over there off their coast. We got mistaken. It sucks but it happens.
#36. To: Fibr Dog (#35)
#37. To: Fibr Dog (#35)
Those are not the facts. We were in international waters. We were not mistaken. That is an outright lie.
#38. To: mininggold, Ferret Mike, AKA Stone (#37)
#39. To: Fibr Dog (#38)
#40. To: A K A Stone (#23)
It wouldn't have happened if we were operating in our sphere of influence. Like following the Monroe doctrine and non interventionist policy like all the Jew haters say they want when it comes to Israel.
#41. To: calcon (#15)
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gay canary posse troll
#42. To: A K A Stone, Fibr Dog (#23)
That was just a terrible accident. Anyone who thinks the Jews attacked America on purpose are stupid.
"The Israelis maintain this was simply a case of mistaken identity, but this clearly does not hold water," said Moorer, who was chief of naval operations at the time of the attack. "In clear visibility, this unique ship was very easy to identify.
Following the attack, a U.S. Navy Board of Inquiry into the incident convened. Though the amount of evidence was immense and there were several dozen interviews to conduct, the Court of Inquiry was given only a week to complete their work. The Court was not even allowed to consider sworn declarations from more than 60 still-hospitalized Liberty sailors.
It wouldn't have happened if we were operating in our sphere of influence. Like following the Monroe doctrine and non interventionist policy like all the Jew haters say they want when it comes to Israel.
"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler
#43. To: Capitalist Eric (#42)
#44. To: BorisY (#41)
#45. To: calcon, BorisY (#44)
"do you really have to post disgusting shit like that, stop disrespecting a dead american,
#46. To: Fibr Dog (#34)
Israel attacked the USS Liberty using UNMARKED AIRCRAFT. This is the single fact which proves Israel knew exactly who they were attacking. Israel's story is that they thought USS Liberty was an Egyptian ship and therefore a legitimate target of war. Were that true, there would be no reason to attack a supposedly Egyptian ship with unmarked aircraft. The only possible reason to use unmarked aircraft to attack the ship is that Israel knew it was an American ship and intended to sink it, then to blame the attack on Egypt.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you have never bothered to investigate the issue and are making your decision based on preconceived notions.
The dead of the USS Liberty deserve better from someone claiming to be a patriot.
"I am relying on my personal experience with Morons, which have been universally positive." -jwpegler
#47. To: Capitalist Eric (#46)
"Agreed. But stone is no more an American patriot, than Israel is America's friend."
#48. To: Capitalist Eric (#46)
Agreed. But stone is no more an American patriot, than Israel is America's friend.
#49. To: Ferret Mike (#47)
Very well put. Thank you.
#50. To: Ferret Mike (#45)
#51. To: Ferret Mike, calcon (#45)
"do you really have to post disgusting shit like that, stop disrespecting a dead american,
#52. To: Ferret Mike (#39)
My experience though is that he thinks facts are inconvenient things.
#53. To: A K A Stone (#49)
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#54. To: Ferret Mike (#53)
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