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Title: Observations on the old world,and predictions of the New World Order
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Published: Aug 18, 2012
Author: sneakypete
Post Date: 2012-08-18 14:20:35 by sneakypete
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Here is the simple explanation for what is happening with the the global economy that anybody that can bear to look at and think about can understand.

If you follow this to it's logical conclusion,you will understand why there is a push for globalism. I will try to sum that up once I finish explaining the economic reality that is the engine driving it.

Economies only thrive when they have such an excess of goods that they can sell them for a profit after meeting the needs of their own people. You have a closed circle when you are only selling to each other and nobody profits unless they steal from their neighbors through laws or taxes.

The ONLY way to create the wealth necessary for a society to expand their economy to meet the requirements of their expanding population is to bring in more wealth by selling your excess production to other societies that need it to meet the needs of THEIR people.

Things have been roaring right along since the beginning of the industrial age because industrial societies were able to produce an excess to export in exchange for the wealth (money as well as natural resources like oil,silk,etc) of undeveloped countries. The natural resources,which even includes labor because cheap labor makes it possible for them to produce labor-intensive goods to export back to more developed countries where labor costs are high.

The best and most current example of this was from the late 1930's to the late 1950's.

Prior to 1942,both Asia and Europe were at war. This means they were all busy destroying each other's infrastructure and manufacturing. The US was basically the only industrialized nation in the world that wasn't at war,and we "sold" our way out of the depression by producing and selling to the nations at war.

Then we got into the war in Dec of 41,and that ramped our manufacturing ability up to hyper speed. By 1945 we were the only industrialized nation in the world that still had operating factories and skilled laborers. The rest of the world had their factories and whole industrial cities bombed into rubble and many of their skilled factory workers died fighting the war,so the whole world was our market and we had no competition.

Then we came up with the Marshall Plan to pump things back up all over Europe while keeping full employment and high wages here. We even went so far as to send equipment and experts to Japan to help them create a auto industry.

We even paid DAMAGES to US corporations like GM for the allied bombing of their auto and truck factories in Europe during WW-2!

Ok,the whole world was recovering while we were rolling in the money and full employment,and then in 1958 we hit was was widely called "The Eisenhower Recession". The boom was over,and quite naturally the Dim-controlled media blamed it on the Republicans. The truth is nobody was to blame. The recession was the natural result of the European and Asian factories going back on line and meeting the needs of their own people so they had no reason to import so much from the US. Reduced demand from overseas clients resulted in less production which resulted in job layoff's which resulted in the recession. Things didn't get going again until after the invention of the transistor and the beginning of what I will call "The electronic age". Suddenly a lot of the old technology was so outdated the goods it produced sat unwanted on the shelves,and everybody had to have the new,smaller,more effecient products that even did things the old products couldn't do. And that was just the first wave,before computers.

Now here we are at the dawn of the 21st Century,and computers ended up being a real game-changer. International trade suddenly became something anybody could do from the comfort of their own homes. If,for example,you wanted to parts for your 1956 BSA motorcycle or your 1964 Datsun,you could just go online and buy them yourself from England or Japan. You didn't need a importer and the importer didn't need purchasing agents taking ships to foreign countries to buy in bulk,hoping they would be able to sell it all. Everything now is done in "Real time" eliminating the need for many of the shipping and warehouses and all the workers and equipment needed to stockpile goods. Eliminating jobs in the manufacturing plants that produced the forklifts that moved the pallets around,the factories that produced the 18 wheelers and trailers that delivered the goods all over the country,the jobs of the people that worked in the steel mills,tire factories,and all the other plants associated with producing all the equipment and tools that were necessary earlier.

All this leads up to where we are going. Which is to a world that needs fewer and fewer workers as automation develops even further,while world populations increase at the same time due to the industrial revolution that led to better health care because this in turn led to more babies surving to become adults,and more adults living longer.

All these new "Citizens of the Brave New World" will need to be fed,housed,clothed,provided with medical care,and even entertained. Can't have the natives getting restless now,can we?

They will not only NEED those things,they will DEMAND those things as a RIGHT because politicans have been providing all those things to them for generations now in order to buy their votes. This worked as long as economies were humming right along at full-employment selling goods and services to developing nations and the tax base was there to support all these "free" services.

What happens when the money is no longer there to provide these "free" services to the parasitic classes that have grown up expecting and demanding they live as good as the working class without ever having had to actually produce any work themselves?

They start out by protesting to politicians who are sypathetic to their demands even though they know the balloon is about to burst because those politicians still want the votes so they don't lose THEIR jobs and all the "free" stuff they get.

When the protestors demands aren't met,the riots break out. Remember,these are not only people totally unprepared to work because they know nothing,but now those people are joined by others who HAVE worked all their lives in order to provide a secure living for their familes. These are the people who grew up expecting to be able to work for and earn a respectable Middle Class life,and have suddenly had their jobs taken from them by outsourcing. They are now in the same boat as the professional welfare class,and that boat is leaking.

What do YOU think is going to happen when the government declares itself to be bankrupt,and the welfare checks,SS checks,civil service checks,and all the other money the government spends stops coming in? Think maybe things might get a bit "testy" as millions of people get desparate all at once while everything shuts down including their teebees and cell phones and they are sitting in their feezing (or blistering hot) houses in the dark with nothing to do,nothing to eat,and not even any water to drink?

NOW you know why the elites were pushing so strongly for "Zero Population Growth" back in the 60's,and why they are now pushing for abortions. If these babies are born,somebody is going to have to provide for them,and the jobs and the tax base is no longer there to do this.

It looks to me like this didn't work voluntarily,so we are now headed to violent riots,anarchy,and a call for the government to "Do something! Do ANYTHING,BUT MAKE ME SAFE!"

Can you say "Suspend the Bill of Rights and declare a state of Martial Law to exhist until a new government is formed"? I thought you could.

Not to worry,though. In the Brave New World of "The New World Order/The Third Way" of Bush/Clinton/Tony Blair,these problems will be solved by a corporate board that controls the whole world through economic zones. I have described this new form of government before as "Corporate Communism" because that is the easiest term for those not that familiar with history or politics to understand,but the truth is that corporate communism is nothing more than fascism,and fascism itself is nothing but another term for a return to the Feudal System. Maximum control and minimum freedoms. For our "own good",of course.

Our new "royalty" will solve these problems by going with what has worked for them in the past on a smaller scale. Limiting the size of families by forced abortion and/or mandatory sterilizations (China),and pushing everybody into economic zones like those Stalin created in the old USSR so everybody can live in corporate housing near the factories they work in,and can ride the factory bus to work,to the factory schools,the factory doctor,or the factory stores to shop.

In the past,these "company towns" (what they were called in the US back in the 30's when Dims like the Rockefellers ran them) paid their workers "script" that could only be used in company stores,thus insuring their workers couldn't escape.

In the electronic world with the huge hard drives we have now,this is even easier. All they have to do is go to a cash-free society and issue everyone a employee ID number and card,and they no longer even have to worry about somebody with actual money being able to buy up company script so the company workers can get away. Any time you piss off management or cause them any problems,a simple key stroke will delete your ID number,and all your bank accounts and balances will disappear in the blink of a eye. Hell,YOU will even disappear. It will be just like you never exhisted. You won't even be able to buy a cup of coffee,never mind a bus ticket. Which is a great incinitive for you to obey massa and keep your nose clean.


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#1. To: All, *Bill of Rights-Constitution*, *The Two Parties ARE the Same*, *Science and technology*, *World history* (#0)

ping

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-08-18   14:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sneakypete (#1)

This is an interesting, very well written piece and is quite thought provoking. I was surprised to see you are the author.

Zesta  posted on  2012-08-18   14:41:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zesta (#2)

This is an interesting, very well written piece and is quite thought provoking.

Thanks.

I was surprised to see you are the author.

LOL! I have written all that stuff before,and done so multiple times. I just never bothered to put it all in one post.

In fact,it's not all in one post above. This is the condensed version. I really would have to write a book to express all my thoughts on why this is happening and what will happen. It's the details that convince people,not the wide view.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-08-18   14:48:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#3)

In fact,it's not all in one post above. This is the condensed version.

Ping me if you ever put together the other details in one cohesive post as you did this time. I don't check in here often because most of the time it's too much like a brawl in an old west saloon. Glad I took a peek today and saw your headline.

You could still write a book. It's never too late. (You do need an editor though.)

Zesta  posted on  2012-08-18   15:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#0) (Edited)

Everything now is done in "Real time" eliminating the need for many of the shipping and warehouses and all the workers and equipment needed to stockpile goods. Eliminating jobs in the manufacturing plants that produced the forklifts that moved the pallets around,the factories that produced the 18 wheelers and trailers that delivered the goods all over the country,the jobs of the people that worked in the steel mills,tire factories,and all the other plants associated with producing all the equipment and tools that were necessary earlier.

Just In Time inventory system (JIT). IMO, it means more small deliveries, more small trucks running around the highways. JIT is very vulnerable to supply and transportation problems since there's very little product on hand to fill demand. JIT is not as popular now that some of the problems are more well known. It's still prevalent enough to be a big concern though. You're right that food, etc, won't be available in cities, after a few days of a problem.


So Long, Just-in-Time Inventory

[...] And contrary to the just-in-time mantra of the past decade, some companies are selectively building their inventory of critical parts. “Instead of having a day’s worth for a safety stock, a company could have a month’s worth,” Lawton says. “So the company can ship for the next month while it deals with the issue.”

Tayler at Xerox says the just-in-time inventory concept came into vogue when interest rates were much higher, making the working capital to support that inventory costlier. Today’s historically low interest rates make carrying inventory less of a burden.

Recent events have also prompted Xerox to err on the side of caution, he says. “Since the crisis in Japan, we have made selective investments in inventory to increase stocks of crucial components.” [...]


The Downside of Just-in-Time Inventory


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-08-18   15:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#0) (Edited)

Economies start, grow, and thrive because of trial and error. Someone tries something, it doesn't work, so they learn and try again. More importantly, someone tries something, it doesn't work, and others learn and try something different. This is how progress actually works.

Governments can and do interrupt this process through a variety mechanisms like taxes and regulations, which slows progress and hurts us all.

Insofar as America's dominance after WWII -- sure it's not so hard to be the big kid on the block when Europe and Japan were destroyed in war and the most of the rest of the world was mired in communism.

In the long run, our temporary dominance during the post-WWII period was bad for America because it resulted in the country becoming arrogant, fat, and weak.

Competition is what keeps people lean and nimble.

We can either sit around bellyaching about a lost fictitious past or we can belly up and out innovate our competitors.


"we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague" -- lucysmom

jwpegler  posted on  2012-08-18   20:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete, war, mininggold, lucysymom, Ferret Mike (#0)

petey, this is very good for discussion.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-08-18   22:53:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#7)

Thanks,Fred. I'm surprised at how little attention it has received.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-08-18   23:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: sneakypete (#0)

the government declares itself to be bankrupt,and the welfare checks,SS checks,civil service checks,and all the other money the government spends stops

everything shuts down including their teebees and cell phones and they are sitting in their feezing (or blistering hot) houses in the dark with nothing to do,nothing to eat,and not even any water to drink?

"Suspend the Bill of Rights and declare a state of Martial Law to exhist until a new government is formed"?

Well it seems to me the gov is going to have some problems with their troops when the paychecks they're giving out are worthless, and many of their families in the cities are starving and suffering outbreaks of disease from bad drinking water.

FEMA & some version of the military will be running the show, and sending what food, fuel, etc, is available to their friends like Rham in Chicago, and red state fly over country cities will be out of luck. Whatever orders BigSis is giving to them are likely to be ignored in favor of providing for their families. Since they're already organized into military units, it seems likely some of them will break out of the chain of command, and go out in search of supplies to feed their families. Raiding supply convoys etc, whatever it takes.

It's tough to predict what will happen, but there's a few thoughts on what could.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-08-18   23:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#0)

With Accelerating Climate Change, the USSA and the World don't have 5 years.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-19   8:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#9)

Well it seems to me the gov is going to have some problems with their troops when the paychecks they're giving out are worthless, and many of their families in the cities are starving and suffering outbreaks of disease from bad drinking water.

Look at what always happens historically with failing governments. They ALWAYS take care of their military and their police. Always. In fact,people stand in line and bribe officials to be allowed to join the army or the police so they can provide for their families.

And military bases are self-contained cities. They have their own water and electrical supply.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-08-19   9:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mcgowanjm (#10)

With Accelerating Climate Change, the USSA and the World don't have 5 years.

And another planet is heard from.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-08-19   9:16:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#0)

Interesting perspective Pete.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-08-19   9:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)

to produce an excess to export in exchange for the wealth (money as well as natural resources like oil,silk,etc) of undeveloped countries.

I then had to scan the entire thing.

Above is the ONLY mention of Oil.

It is yet another Civilized Power, with its banner of the Prince of Peace in one hand and its loot-basket and its butcher-knife in the other.

— Mark Twain, To the Person Sitting in Darkness, 1901, describing the United States playing the European-style imperialist game in the Philippines.

For globalism to work, America can’t be afraid to act like the almighty superpower that it is.…The hidden hand of the market will never work without a hidden fist—McDonald’s cannot flourish without McDonnell Douglas, the designer of the F-15. And the hidden fist that keeps the world safe for Silicon Valley’s technologies is called the United States Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps.

— Thomas Friedman, What the World Needs Now, New York Times, March 28, 1999. Quoted from Backing Up Globalization with Military Might

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-19   10:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All (#14)

"Excellent news! According to SkyNews,

The Organisation of American States (OAS) has called a meeting of foreign ministers for August 24 to discuss the stand-off sparked when Ecuador granted asylum to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

Twenty-three countries voted on Friday for the resolution proposed by Ecuador to convene the meeting at its Washington headquarters to discuss Quito's stand-off with Britain over Assange. The US, Canada and Trinidad and Tobago voted no.

The vote was taken at emergency talks to discuss the Assange case (...) The US envoy to the OAS, Carmen Lomellin, said a meeting of its foreign ministers 'would be unhelpful and harmful to the OAS's reputation as an institution'......

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....unhelpful.....BUWAHAHAHAHA

Looking forward to the USSA's newly found Al Qaeda in Ecuador.

But ....wait a minute....Al Qaeda's Now our bestest buddy!

How can that be!?.....BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-08-19   10:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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