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Title: Atheist Files Discrimination Complaint Over PA Restaurant’s 10% Sunday Discount for People With Church Bulletins
Source: The Blaze
URL Source: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ath ... twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Published: Jul 5, 2012
Author: Billy Hallowell
Post Date: 2012-07-05 17:39:32 by redleghunter
Keywords: None
Views: 15991
Comments: 53

An atheist has filed a discrimination complaint against a Columbia, Pennsylvania-based restaurant. The offense? The establishment has been offering a 10 percent discount for individuals who bring in a church bulletin on Sundays. John Wolff, who has officially issued his grievance with the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission, is hoping that Prudhomme’s Lost Cajun Kitchen is held accountable for its diner discount.

“I did this not out of spite, but out of a feeling against the prevailing self-righteousness that stems from religion, particularly in Lancaster County,” Wolff, a retired electrical engineer, said of his decision to go toe-to-toe with the restaurant. “I don’t consider it an earthshaking affair, but in this area in particular, we seem to have so many self-righteous religious people, so it just annoys me.”

But one of the co-owners of the restaurant, Sharon Prudhomme, isn‘t backing down to Wolff’s challenge. She claims that Lost Cajun Kitchen technically doesn’t discriminate, because people don’t actually have to be believers — or even attend church for that matter — to get the discount. Anyone, she claims, can walk into a church and take a bulletin.

Prudhomme is also doubling-down in saying that the restaurant has no intention of halting the discount program, Lancaster Online reports. Since Sundays are slow, the discount is intended to boost customer flow — something that is important during tough economic times.

Wolff‘s main issue is that he’s allegedly been offered different services because of his religious preferences or lack thereof. Prudhomme, though, calls the entire complaint “a waste.” Despite her opposition, the restaurant’s owners will need to respond to it within 30 days in writing.

Then, the commission will decide if the complaint is a viable one. If, indeed, the restaurant is found to be discriminating, a public hearing will result. In the end, it is possible that the restaurant, pending they lose, would be required to stop the promotion.


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“I did this not out of spite, but out of a feeling against the prevailing self-righteousness that stems from religion, particularly in Lancaster County,” Wolff, a retired electrical engineer, said of his decision to go toe-to-toe with the restaurant. “I don’t consider it an earthshaking affair, but in this area in particular, we seem to have so many self-righteous religious people, so it just annoys me.” Poster comment: Sure sounds like "spite" to me. Is Wolff going to go after elderly widows next who try to get a 10% for being a senior. What we have here is a good business decision by the restaurant owner being challenged by a spiteful atheist who claims the people getting discounts are "self-righteous." The humourous piece to this is, how does an atheist measure "self-righteousness" in a relative worldview? (1 image)

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#1. To: sneakypete, SJN, GarySpFc, Liberator (#0)

“I did this not out of spite, but out of a feeling against the prevailing self-righteousness that stems from religion, particularly in Lancaster County,” Wolff, a retired electrical engineer, said of his decision to go toe-to-toe with the restaurant. “I don’t consider it an earthshaking affair, but in this area in particular, we seem to have so many self-righteous religious people, so it just annoys me.”

Just for you pete. Add this to the "Just Cookies" owner who was sued for not making rainbow cupcakes. The list goes on.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-05   17:42:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: redleghunter, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#0) (Edited)

It's a private business, if he doesn't want to serve atheists or satanic Mormon cultists (MitTards), then they're out of luck.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-07-05   17:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#2)

I used my church bulletin a few months ago to get a 10 percent discount, only because I noticed it for the first time in years on a menu or a placard. I'm not telling where the restaurant is.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-07-05   17:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Fred Mertz (#3) (Edited)

If you disrespect the ...

overlords - underlings ---

you can easily go to jail !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-07-05   18:03:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68, SJN, rowdee, Liberator, GarySpFc, sneakypete, Biff Tannen (#2)

It's a private business, if he doesn't want to serve atheists or satanic Mormon cultists (MitTards), then they're out of luck.

Well that is what is supposed to happen in a free society. But allow me to respectfully retort that notion with the following:

Court: Christians can be ordered to violate beliefs

A ruling from Judge Tim L. Garcia in the New Mexico Court of Appeals says states can require Christians to violate their faith in order to do business, affirming a penalty of nearly $7,000 for a photographer who refused to take pictures at a lesbian “commitment” ceremony in the state where same- sex “marriage” was illegal.

Judges Cynthia Fry and James Wechsler joined in the ruling by Garcia, which involved Elane Photography, whose owners, Elaine and Jonathan Huegeunin, are Christians and declined to do photography for lesbians Vanessa Willock and another woman.

Full story:

www.wnd.com/2012/06/refus...-lesbians-get-fined-7000/

Christian Baker Faces Boycott For Refusing to Make Lesbian

At that point Childress told the couple that she would not be willing to make their wedding cake.

“I was straight-forward with them and explained that I’m a Christian and that I have very strong convictions,” she said. “I chose to be honest about it. They said they appreciated it and left. That was all that was said.”

But that wasn’t the end of the story. Soon Childress began receiving hateful emails and then – the local media called.

Full Story:

radio.foxnews.com/toddsta...tian-baker-faces-boycott- for-refusing-to-make-lesbian-cake.html

Indianapolis Bakery Declines Order for Rainbow Cupcakes, Sparking City Inquiry

Officials in Indianapolis are turning up the heat on a bakery that refused to take an order from a student group seeking rainbow-colored cupcakes for next month's National Coming Out Day.

A spokesman for Indianapolis Mayor Greg Ballard said city officials are conducting an inquiry into the bakery, Just Cookies, which declined to take the order last week from a diversity group at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI), which ordered the cupcakes for Oct. 11.

"The city's position is, it's the city's market, it's a public place," mayoral spokesman Robert Vane told FoxNews.com. "There is no litmus test for buying services or products at the City Market."

For more on "Just Cookies" not making the "coming out" CUPCAKES:

www.foxnews.com/us/2010/0...s-launch-inquiry-cupcake- denial-gay-student-group/

Judge Rules Christian facility cannot ban same-sex civil union ceremony on its own premises

OCEAN GROVE, New Jersey, January 13, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) - A New Jersey judge ruled against a Christian retreat house that refused to allow a same-sex civil union ceremony to be conducted on its premises, ruling the Constitution allows “some intrusion into religious freedom to balance other important societal goals.”

For more on this:

www.lifesitenews.com/news...facility-cannot-ban-same- sex-civil-union-ceremony-on/

The list goes on. I guess some "rights" not enumerated trump those that are.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-05   18:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: redleghunter (#0) (Edited)

I think there should be a national day of praying for Mr. Wolff. Perhaps all the churches in his area could meet outside his home and hold hands and just pray, pray, pray for this man's well being and that God would touch his heart.

Or they could sing a song or two, like Only Believe......

But the main thing is to pray for this man.

rowdee  posted on  2012-07-05   18:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: redleghunter (#5)

Ya sure looks like some things are fucked up out there. Same as it ever was. Try to enjoy life anyway, would ya!

.
Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Say hello to your grandma for me.

Biff Tannen  posted on  2012-07-05   19:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: redleghunter (#1) (Edited)

Just for you pete.

Why is this just for me? I side with you and the restaurant owner on this one.

Restaurants are private businesses,and private businesses have a Constitutional RIGHT to discriminate for or against anybody or any group of people they want for any reason they want.

It's GOVERNMENT that can't discriminate.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-06   0:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: sneakypete (#8)

Why is this just for me? I side with you and the restaurant owner on this one.

Restaurants are private businesses,and private businesses have a Constitutional RIGHT to discriminate for or against anybody or any group of people they want for any reason they want.

It's GOVERNMENT that can't discriminate.

What's funny is, if the owner refused to serve Christians or offered atheists discounts, he'd be screaming bloody murder.

meguro  posted on  2012-07-06   1:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Biff Tannen (#7)

Same as it ever was. Try to enjoy life anyway, would ya!

I am glad you see a problem "out there." I will take that as an honest assessment. Nice new photo of the younger Biff Tannen:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-06   13:57:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete, Liberator (#8)

Why is this just for me? I side with you and the restaurant owner on this one.

Just pointing out "who" has the greatest effort out there to silence and punish our 1st Amendment. I knew you would agree, but for some reason you kept pounding that "the fundies" are doing the persecution. I provided examples of the opposite.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-06   14:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: meguro (#9)

What's funny is, if the owner refused to serve Christians or offered atheists discounts, he'd be screaming bloody murder.

I am constantly amazed that people on both sides of these issue can never seem to understand the basic truth that I have been posting over and over for years.

"We are either all free,or none of us are free."

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-06   14:48:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: redleghunter (#11)

I knew you would agree, but for some reason you kept pounding that "the fundies" are doing the persecution.

That's because the fundies have been doing it since even before the country was formed,and are still doing it today.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-06   14:50:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete, SJN, Liberator (#12)

I am constantly amazed that people on both sides of these issue can never seem to understand the basic truth that I have been posting over and over for years.

"We are either all free,or none of us are free."

It is clear the "tactics" used by either side. Christians are using huge bucks to defend their 1st Amendment rights. On the flip side the gay community does get a lot of discounts and donations from major corporations;

-Disney

-JC Penny

-Home Depot

-Proctor and Gamble

-Nabisco

Just a few. Big dollars to fund gay pride rallies and political action groups. The Christian response? We ask the companies to stay neutral. When they refuse, we take our business elsewhere...we don't litigate or legislate. There is the difference. If businesses want to support gay rights and parties, they are free to do so. We also are free to take our business elsewhere when they decide to take a side.

And the $$ the gay lobby gets from these corporations "in good will" are turned around to sue Christian businessmen.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-06   15:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete, SJN, Liberator, rowdee (#13)

That's because the fundies have been doing it since even before the country was formed,and are still doing it today.

Perhaps with the help of meguro you can find some contrast or rebuttal to the facts I posted. Or do you take the perspective all is fair in "lifestyle and war?"

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-06   15:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: redleghunter (#14)

What you are saying is true,but that gives your cause no nobility as long as you continue to create a special class of citizens that less rights than other citizens.

In this sense you are doing EXACTLY the same thing the leftist activists are trying to do to Christians.

When it comes to this,you are both wrong.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-06   15:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: redleghunter, sneakypete, SJN, Liberator, rowdee (#15)

That's because the fundies have been doing it since even before the country was formed,and are still doing it today.

Perhaps with the help of meguro you can find some contrast or rebuttal to the facts I posted. Or do you take the perspective all is fair in "lifestyle and war?"

.

You really don't get it do you red?

Pete is a active practicing religious BIGOT, he especially despises CHRISTIANS.

There is NOTHING that you can say or do to move him off of that.

But that doesn't make him or his ilk factually correct.

They're just standard issue religious bigots.

btw red in a secular society such as ours, I believe that as long as they don't act out their bigotry, they have the right to despise whoever they want to, and it doesn't have to make sense to anybody but them.

I think that it's STOOOPID, but it's their choice.

That's what liberty means.

People get to be wrong.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-06   15:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: redleghunter (#15)

Perhaps with the help of meguro you can find some contrast or rebuttal to the facts I posted. Or do you take the perspective all is fair in "lifestyle and war?"

No,I Take the position that I don't work for you,none of this stuff is a secret,and if you are even remotely interested in discovering the truth you would do the research yourself. Which would be the only way you would ever be convinced to start with.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-06   15:22:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Mad Dog (#17)

Pete is a active practicing religious BIGOT, he especially despises CHRISTIANS.

That's not true, I despise Muslims more,and I despise Buddhists less.

Then again,I don't know as much about Buddhists as I do Christians and Muslims.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-06   15:24:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#16)

What you are saying is true,but that gives your cause no nobility as long as you continue to create a special class of citizens that less rights than other citizens.

Pete, I see it the other way. There are Americans who want to create an even more special class. As in Animal Farm...some pigs are more equal than others. We are not talking about a race of people who were slaves, then even after being free continued to be treated as slaves and lived with the stigma of being slaves. This caused both social and economic disadvantages. Gays keep posting how rich and successful they are. If that is the case, I group them with fat cat corporations looking for tax loop holes and not equal protections. As I have said in the past, get a couple of lawyers in a room and gays can make all the legal notification, wills, POAs they want to ensure whoever they cohabitate with are covered financially and legally. But it is not about benefits, it is about acceptance. And we already had that conversation.

Perhaps the homosexual community with its large donors and large corporate sponsorships should stop suing Christians and spend the money to feed the poor.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-06   15:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Mad Dog (#17)

I believe that as long as they don't act out their bigotry

But they do, and litigate and legislate the bigotry.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-06   15:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete, Mad Dog, Liberator, A K A Stone, SJN, rowdee (#19)

Pete is a active practicing religious BIGOT, he especially despises CHRISTIANS. That's not true, I despise Muslims more,and I despise Buddhists less.

Then again,I don't know as much about Buddhists as I do Christians and Muslims.

Pete I did not know you were an airline pilot:

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-07-06   15:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#12)

We are either all free,or none of us are free."

Maybe... Maybe not....

Some are prisoners/slaves of their own culture!!

Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….

CZ82  posted on  2012-07-06   16:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete (#19)

md;Pete is a active practicing religious BIGOT, he especially despises CHRISTIANS.

sp; That's not true, I despise Muslims more,and I despise Buddhists less.

Then again,I don't know as much about Buddhists as I do Christians and Muslims.

My point stands, you are a self admitted religious bigot who despises CHRISTIANS.

I couldn't care less how you handicap different religions.

You ARE a religious bigot, and there isn't F all "cute" about it in a FREE society or anywhere else.

It's a REAL big LOSER INDICATOR petey.

As you were.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-06   16:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: redleghunter, sneakypete, ALL (#21)

I believe that as long as they don't act out their bigotry

But they do, and litigate and legislate the bigotry.

See any problem with this statement?

"THEY" do act out and legislate the bigotry.

Who is THEY?

How can you say ALL of them do anything? in your example who ELECTED these azzholes?

My point stands.

In a mixed religious SECULAR nation, as long as WE don't act out our PREJUDICES we are allowed to have such PREJUDICES.

I personally am a religious bigot against islam.

NONE of us is "pure".

ALL of us are sinners.

ALL of us are flawed.

EVERY Fing one of us is a BIGOT in some thing.

Pete just has a real hard on for CHRISTIANS.

That's HIS problem, not ours.

We punish BEHAVIOR not THOUGHT, (so far any way).

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-06   16:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Mad Dog (#25)

ALL of us are sinners.

Yep... I'm a member of the BBB!!!

Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….

CZ82  posted on  2012-07-06   16:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: CZ82 (#26)

ALL of us are sinners.

Yep... I'm a member of the BBB!!!

Chit man, I'm the Ombudsman!

FIGHT the power y'all!

LMAO!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-06   16:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: CZ82 (#23)

Some are prisoners/slaves of their own culture!!

That's true,but they are slaves by their own choice.

It's not un-Constitutional to make yourself a slave.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-06   20:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Mad Dog (#24) (Edited)

My point stands, you are a self admitted religious bigot who despises CHRISTIANS.

That's ridiculous. I only despise the ones I know. There are tens of millions I have never met or even heard of.

I am predisposed to dislike and mistrust any self-proclaimed Christian based on the ones I do know,though.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-06   20:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Mad Dog (#25) (Edited)

EVERY Fing one of us is a BIGOT in some thing.

Yup. It's human nature at work.

The trick is to be aware of your own prejudices and your limitations. You/we/everybody is perfectly free as individual to dislike anyone we wish for any reason at all,or even for no reason at all.

That's where it ends,though. We are NOT allowed to harm those we dislike merely because we dislike them.

You have to understand the limitations.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-06   20:04:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete, ALL (#29)

My point stands, you are a self admitted religious bigot who despises CHRISTIANS.

That's ridiculous. I only despise the ones I know. There are tens of millions I have never met or even heard of.

I am predisposed to dislike and mistrust any self-proclaimed Christian based on the ones I do know,though.

LOL!

Where did I say that you despise ALL CHRISTIANS pete?

(Although I certainly agree that it's understood grammar wise.)

Then let's look at the logic and truth of that absurd statement pete.

You are on record, saying that you despise CHRISTIANITY and CHRISTIANS. You call us "fundies" out of your own hate and ignorance.

You certainly despise CHRISTIANITY, so you logically despise CHRISTIANS who follow actual CHRISTIAN theology.

So you actually DO despise ALL real CHRISTIANS.

Why do you think you need to be cute or clever about that KNOWN fact pete?

Be HONEST about what you are man.

I pity those who cannot even tell themselves the TRUTH.

btw pete your hate and contempt for Christianity and CHRISTIANS is YOUR problem, not ours.

NOTHING that you can say or do matters on that count to us pete.

It's YOUR problem pete.

LOL!

You act like a real good mohammedan there pete!

LOL!

What really cracks me up is how people like you act as if your THEOLOGICAL arrogance and ignorance and stupidity matters!

It doesn't.

What is IS.

LOL!

Thanks for the giggles pete, you never fail to entertain when you haul out your drooling and gibbering HATE of dem nasty 'ol "fundies"!

The very terms of which illustrate your almost total ignorance of what you claim to hate.

BOO!

HE is, you aren't.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-07   15:03:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#30)

EVERY Fing one of us is a BIGOT in some thing. Yup. It's human nature at work.

The trick is to be aware of your own prejudices and your limitations. You/we/everybody is perfectly free as individual to dislike anyone we wish for any reason at all,or even for no reason at all.

That's where it ends,though. We are NOT allowed to harm those we dislike merely because we dislike them.

You have to understand the limitations.

Very VERY true pete.

ALL engineers understand that it is IMPOSSIBLE to solve any problem that is not honestly defined.

The best that any of us can be is still only human.

Do you know about how when the ancient Romans held a "Triumph" for someone, (which was considered by them to be a literal deification of the man for a day), that there were three riders in the chariot?

One was the man being honored, one was the driver, and one was just a man or slave whose only job was to whisper in the honoree's ear "remember thou art just a man" during the ride to the ceremony site.

We are ALL just human.

ALL of us.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-07   15:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Mad Dog (#31)

So you actually DO despise ALL real CHRISTIANS.

If you want to think that,it's ok with me.

btw pete your hate and contempt for Christianity and CHRISTIANS is YOUR problem, not ours.

I don't have a problem with it at all.

What really cracks me up is how people like you act as if your THEOLOGICAL arrogance and ignorance and stupidity matters!

It doesn't.

What is IS.

LOL!

Blah,blah,blah.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-07   20:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Mad Dog (#32)

Do you know about how when the ancient Romans held a "Triumph" for someone, (which was considered by them to be a literal deification of the man for a day), that there were three riders in the chariot?

One was the man being honored, one was the driver, and one was just a man or slave whose only job was to whisper in the honoree's ear "remember thou art just a man" during the ride to the ceremony site.

No,I didn't know that,but it sounds like it was a very wise man that came up with that idea.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-07   20:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#33)

" What really cracks me up is how people like you act as if your THEOLOGICAL arrogance and ignorance and stupidity matters!

It doesn't."

What cracks me up are the stupid goobers that are willing to vote for a non-Christian who was a pro-choice governor for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. And many of them label a man who has gone to Christian church his whole life a Muslim just because their hatred of him is more important then reality.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-07-08   5:51:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike (#35)

And many of them label a man who has gone to Christian church his whole life a Muslim just because their hatred of him is more important then reality.

The guy was born a Jew and claims to be a Jew so how can he be Christian at the same time???????

Look at all the people he has surrounded himself with since he went to disgrace the White House... most of them are Jewish.....

Do you think that Jeremiah Wrights church is Christian?? ROTFLMAO!! They might "CLAIM" to be Christian but if you look at all the junk that's in their history, it's a wonder they know who or what they are.... My guess is they just make it up as they go along to legitimize themselves.... LOL....

Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….

CZ82  posted on  2012-07-08   7:29:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: CZ82 (#36)

Yeah, you are exactly the kind of dummy I was talking about. next time I'll mention you as an example.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-07-08   7:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike (#37)

Obama isn't a christian. That would be like you claiming to be one. You are stupid Mike. You don't even realize it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-07-08   8:38:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ferret Mike (#35)

Don't forget the marxist !

You probably think that's normal too !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2012-07-08   9:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: CZ82 (#36)

The guy was born a Jew and claims to be a Jew so how can he be Christian at the same time???????

What guy would that be? Obummer was born into a family that worshipped communism on one side and Islam on the other.

Which,IMHO,is totally irrelevant because in my opinion the only "God" he worships is himself.

Look at all the people he has surrounded himself with since he went to disgrace the White House... most of them are Jewish.....

LOL! Jewish by birth,maybe. The only God THEY worship is the God of Power. I don't know this for a fact,but I'd almost be willing to bet none of them has attended regular services in decades.

Oh,they will rise up on their hind hooves and scream "Anti-Semite!" at the drop of a hat anytime anybody says the least thing critical about them,but other than times like this when it benefits and protects them they have the same contempt for Jews they have for everyone else.

For all the big players in politics,it's all about "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!"

Nothing else.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-08   10:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#38) (Edited)

Obama isn't a christian.

That's his claim,and I'd bet he has gone to church more times then you in the last 20 years.

He definitely has all the Rev-Runds circling their wagons to back him and testify to his faith,anyhow.

How many do you have?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-08   10:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Ferret Mike, AKA Stone (#37)

Yeah, you are exactly the kind of dummy I was talking about. next time I'll mention you as an example.

Boy it sure doesn't take much to get the Peanut gallery in an uproar around here LOL.....

Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….

CZ82  posted on  2012-07-08   13:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete, AKA Stone (#41)

He definitely has all the Rev-Runds circling their wagons to back him and testify to his faith,anyhow.

How many do you have?

I don't think Stone would want the Rev-Runds that were paid to claim Obozo is a Christian to testify for him!!

Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….

CZ82  posted on  2012-07-08   14:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: sneakypete (#40)

because in my opinion the only "God" he worships is himself....

Very true!!

Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….

CZ82  posted on  2012-07-08   14:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: sneakypete, AKA Stone (#40)

LOL! Jewish by birth,maybe.

The only God THEY worship is the God of Power. I don't know this for a fact,but I'd almost be willing to bet none of them has attended regular services in decades.

That's what the MSM says, but then again they say he is Christian and Muslim so who really knows or cares for that matter....

You know just as well as I do that they will say anything to get votes, I wouldn't be afraid to say they probably are all Athiests...(or maybe Wiccans)!!

Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….

CZ82  posted on  2012-07-08   14:24:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#33)

blah blah blah religious bigotry on parade dem Christians is ebil I tells ya ...

LOL!

Hey pete don't piss yourself.

I'm just interested in the TRUTH. The TRUTH is that you are a religious bigot.

I DON'T CARE pete.

That's between you and GOD.

It cracks me up that your sort thinks that mocking GOD matters to believers! (OMG! They're picking on GOD! What ever shall we do? I sure hope GOD can take care of HIS self!)

LOL!

"GOD will not be mocked", as you will will find out someday soon.

BUT ... it's ALL your problem pete.

Not mine or anybody else's.

YOU are SO fucked!

Bummer, forever, for YOU.

Oh well ...

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-08   14:45:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: sneakypete (#34)

Do you know about how when the ancient Romans held a "Triumph" for someone, (which was considered by them to be a literal deification of the man for a day), that there were three riders in the chariot?

One was the man being honored, one was the driver, and one was just a man or slave whose only job was to whisper in the honoree's ear "remember thou art just a man" during the ride to the ceremony site.

No,I didn't know that,but it sounds like it was a very wise man that came up with that idea.

We certainly agree on that one pete.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-08   14:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Ferret Mike (#35)

What cracks me up are the stupid goobers that are willing to vote for a non-Christian who was a pro-choice governor for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. And many of them label a man who has gone to Christian church his whole life a Muslim just because their hatred of him is more important then reality.

You LIE with every breath don't you corn flake gurl? Or maybe you really are as stupid as you act?

American Christians understand that we live in a secular society cornflake gurl, what a person's religion is doesn't matter IF that person is a decent honorable human, (unlike the fraud who squats in DC now).

Speaking of the FRAUD who squats in DC as having "gone to Christian church his whole life" is a factually incorrect LIE. Your messiah "king" obammy was a mohammaden while he lived in Indonesia you LYING bitch. He attended islamic MAD-DRASS-SAS and MOSQUES for YEARS you lying bitch.

Then there is the matter of calling a racist "liberation theology" scam a Christian Church.

MOST Christians don't consider the wrong rev-rund Wrong to be a CHRISTIAN, he sure doesn't teach CHRISTIAN theology in his so called "church".

But, of course, YOU lie with EVERY breath you foul cunt.

What cracks me up is what a dumazzed clumsy LIAR YOU are cunt.

As you were cornflake whore.

You really are a weak and pitiful excuse for a human being.

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-08   15:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: CZ82 (#43)

Choosing and voting for a presidential candidate is like picking which STD you want to suffer from….

LOL!

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-08   16:04:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: CZ82, AKA Stone, cornflake gurl (#42)

Boy it sure doesn't take much to get the Peanut gallery in an uproar around here LOL.....

These gurls soil their tutus at any loud sound.

Be careful they'll get make up all over your shirt, (lower if you are a libTURD like most of them are.

It always reminds me of a middle school gurl's lunchtime over here when cornflake gurl and the rest start vamping and whining.

SO MUCH DRAMA! so little time!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-07-09   15:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: sneakypete (#12)

"We are either all free,or none of us are free."

Hate to break it to you, but it's the latter, and it's been that way for a long, long, time.

meguro  posted on  2012-07-10   9:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: meguro (#51)

Hate to break it to you, but it's the latter, and it's been that way for a long, long, time.

You don't really think that is news to me,do you?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-07-10   13:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: sneakypete (#52)

You don't really think that is news to me,do you?

Suppose not.

meguro  posted on  2012-07-12   3:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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