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Title: Three Articles that help explain Israel
Source: WELS (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod)
URL Source: http://www.wels.net/news-events/for ... december-2008/invisible-church
Published: Jun 24, 2012
Author: various - Noted at end of each article.
Post Date: 2012-06-24 10:03:21 by SJN
Keywords: None
Views: 243838
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The Invisible Church

As the Bible describes the church, it becomes clear that the church is both what we see and what we cannot see.

Church. The word paints a picture. You see the building in which you worship. It may be a small, white-frame building set on a hill in the quiet countryside. Or it may be a large, stone structure occupying a street corner in a busy city. It’s not unusual for us to think of a building when we think of church. Worship is an important part of our lives, and that worship takes place in a building we love, whether it is fancy or plain.

But that is not the way the word church is used in the Bible. In Scripture, church most often refers to people and not to buildings.

The church is invisible

In the New Testament the word ecclesia is often translated as church. Ecclesia refers to a group of people who have been called together. It is an assembly. Yet even that definition does not fully explain what the church is. As the Bible describes the church, it becomes clear that the church is both what we see and what we cannot see. The church is both visible and invisible.

Why would we call a church invisible? You can see a building. You can see the people who gather in that building. Yet we do speak of the church as invisible in the Apostles’ Creed when we confess “I believe in the holy Christian church, the communion of saints.” Sometimes people mistakenly use the term saint to refer to a person who does an abundance of good deeds, someone who helps others. But the Bible uses the term to describe simply a believer. We even distinguish between believers who have been called home to heaven and those who still battle in this world. We speak of saints triumphant and saints militant.

The apostle Peter describes these believers as “a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God” (1 Peter 2:9). Together all believers form the holy Christian church, a “spiritual house” made up of living stones chosen by God. When the Holy Spirit works faith in our hearts, we become part of this structure. The Lord Jesus can see the faith in our hearts. We, however, can only see the fruits of faith and not the faith itself. Because we cannot see faith, the church is invisible to our eyes. The prophet Elijah did not recognize that there were still seven thousand believers in Israel (1 Kings 19:8-18). He thought that he was the only believer left. Likewise, we cannot always tell whether a person is a believer or an unbeliever.

As the Bible describes the church, it becomes clear that the church is both what we see and what we cannot see.

Although the church may be invisible to us, the Lord sees his church clearly. “The Lord knows those who are his” (2 Timothy 2:19). At the same time each person knows what is in his or her heart. Trusting in the promises the Lord gives us, we know that we belong to that communion of saints, the church of God.

Characteristics of the invisible church

This invisible gathering of all believers is not limited by geography. The apostle John reminds us that believers come from different places and “from every nation, tribe, people and language” (Revelation 7:9). In addition, the church is not limited by time. All believers who have lived, are now living, and will live until Jesus returns at the end of time—all these believers are part of this church. The church, the body of all believers, is invisible, and it is also universal. Once again we confess this fact in the Third Article of the Apostles’ Creed. “I believe in the holy Christian church.” The first people who used this confession of faith said, “I believe in the holy catholic church.” The word catholic originally had no denominational connotation. It simply meant universal. When catholic became associated with a particular organization, the word Christian was substituted to prevent confusion. In the Apostles’ Creed we confess that we believe that the Lord gathers together everyone whose faith is in Jesus Christ as the Savior.

People believe in many things. We say that we believe in our team, in our country, and in people who are dear to us. Likewise, many people believe in some religious figure other than Christ. God’s invisible church gathers together only those people who confess Jesus as their Savior. We distinguish ourselves from the followers of Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, and every other religion. We confess that Jesus Christ is true man and true God. We believe that Christ is sinless and perfect and that he is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.

As the Bible describes the church, it becomes clear that the church is both what we see and what we cannot see.

In a world that suggests that it does not matter what you believe as long as you believe, it becomes important to remember that the invisible church gathers together all believers in Christ. Without faith in Jesus we cannot be saved. Without Jesus we have no part in the communion of saints, the gathering of all believers. Jesus makes that clear when he says, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6).

People die. Church buildings may fall apart. Congregations may disband. But the invisible church continues. The Lord has promised that there will always be true believers who are kept faithful by the power of God. “My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand” (John 10:27,28). What a comfort it is to know that the Holy Spirit, who calls us to faith, also preserves us in that faith through the gospel in Word and sacraments!

It is easy to become attached to a congregation. It is in that fellowship that we listen to the good news of Jesus proclaimed. There we hear that our sins are forgiven. In our congregation we draw close to Jesus as we receive the sacrament of his body and blood. Likewise the building in which a congregation worships may be a special place. It may be the same structure in which we were baptized, confirmed, and married. It reminds us of all the blessings God has showered upon us.

But we are part of something that is even more valuable, the holy Christian church. Our triune God has brought us together with people we may never see or know on this side of eternity. Through faith the Lord has made us a part of the congregation of all believers. Right now we are not able to see this church in its entirety. Yet what is invisible to our eyes now will be seen when the Lord returns in glory. What a joy it will be to see all believers from every part of the world and from all times! The day will come when we will gather together and praise the God of grace who gives us membership in his family, the invisible church. That church is not really invisible. It is only invisible to us. God sees it clearly.

James Korthals, a professor at Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary, Mequon, Wisconsin, is a member at David’s Star, Jackson.

Peter's Picture of the Church

1 Peter 2:4-10

The word "temple" in our modern society usually describes a large, beautiful building which is used for the worship of some god. The use of such temples goes back thousands of years. Peter used it to paint a beautiful word picture of Jesus and his church in 2:4-8.

Made up of living stones

Jesus is pictured in many ways in John's gospel. Peter adds his own picture here, when he writes, "The Lord Jesus is the living stone" (v. 4). In verse 6 he gives the original source for this statement (Isaiah 28:16), where God said, "Look! I'm laying a stone in Zion [another name for Israel], a very special cornerstone of great value, and the person who believes in him will never be disappointed."

In the ancient world the cornerstone was more than a stone on which was carved the date of construction. The cornerstone determined the length, the width, and the height of the building, so that the whole building depended on that cornerstone.

That is the picture Peter uses to describe the church in verse 5a, where he says, "And since you are living stones, as you come to him you are built up into a spiritual temple," of which Jesus is the cornerstone. The church is built on Jesus, and around Jesus, the cornerstone. And it is made up of people who are like Jesus--perfectly holy beings in God's sight. That is the way God sees every person who truly believes in Jesus as his or her Savior, because our God-given faith makes us new creatures who are perfectly holy in God's sight, and every such person "will never be disappointed" on Judgment Day.

Then Peter explains in verse 7, "This means that he's of great value to you people who believe in him, but for those who don't believe in him, 'the stone which the builders [the Jewish nation as a whole] decided was no good, is the very one which has become the cornerstone'; and 'the stone which will make people stumble, and the rock which will make them fall.' "How clear Peter makes it that Jesus is the difference between eternal life and eternal damnation.

We are now a holy group of priests

Next Peter uses a new metaphor in verse 5 when he says that the believers who come to Jesus as living stones "are built up into a spiritual temple, to be a holy group of priests, who offer up spiritual sacrifices which God is happy to receive." He continues in verses 9,10, "There was a time when you were no people at all, but now you are God's people. You who never knew God's mercy have now received his mercy." Praise the Lord!

Peter is reminding us that there was a time when we were all outsiders, so far as God is concerned, unbelievers who had never heard of the triune God. But now that we have heard the good news and have come to believe it, we are God's people, while the Jews, as a nation, have rejected their Messiah and are outsiders.

Now you must take note of the fact that every believer is a priest whose principal occupation it is to offer spiritual sacrifices to our triune God each day of our lives. Yes, from morning to evening we offer our God our thanks and praises for the undeserved love he has shown us by sending first his Son to atone for all our sins, and then his Holy Spirit who has brought us to believe the good news that all our sins are forgiven by Jesus' death on the cross, so that we are now God's children who are perfectly holy in God's sight.

Our task as priests is to also bring him our other sacrifices. First there are our time and our talents which we spend carrying out the different tasks we can do as members of our congregations. In some cases we may give our Lord all of our time and talents to serve as pastors, teachers, missionaries, or church office workers.

All of us, whether we are active workers or not, can offer the Lord a portion of our financial resources, which represent the value of our time spent in some gainful occupation.

And of course the temple in which we serve is known to us as the church, the whole body of believers. The picture of the church that Peter gives us here is perhaps the most complete picture to be found anywhere in the Bible.

Julian Anderson is a retired pastor and seminary professor living in Naples, Florida.


(The Following article should help to illuminate why the Nation of Israel and it's people have seen thousands of years of turmoil).

Samuel: A Judge in Israel

Concentrating on the Lord is daunting when dangers clamor for attention. Think back 300 years before Samuel. Following the death of those who carved a Jewish homeland out of Canaan, “another generation grew up, who knew neither the Lord nor what he had done for Israel” (Judges 2:10).

To awaken his spiritually-anesthetized people, God enlisted neighboring nations to harass, enslave, and terrorize Israel. Slapped to consciousness, God’s people recognized their sin, pleaded for forgiveness, and prayed for relief. God then raised up leaders—judges—who with the Lord’s power pushed back the oppressors. Moral and spiritual health flourished. But “when the judge died, the people returned to ways even more corrupt than those of their fathers . . .” (Judges 2:19).

Repenting to God

This cycle of godlessness, oppression, repentance, freedom, upright living, and a return to godlessness repeated itself until Samuel. Remember Eli and his sons? 1 Samuel 7 brings us to a repentance and freedom section of that cycle and to Samuel as Israel’s final judge.

The Ark of the Covenant remained in the border town of Kiriath-Jearim for 20 years after the Philistines captured it and then returned it to stem a Lord-induced plague. During those two decades “all the people of Israel mourned and sought after the Lord” (7:2).

To confirm that renaissance of faith, Samuel summoned his countrymen to a spiritually essential, but politically provocative, act—national purification and rededication. Israel was not a free country. Philistine overlords kept close watch. When their surveillance noticed huge numbers of Israelites staging at Mizpah (literally, “look out point”), their early-warning alarms wailed. Mizpah was a military gem mounted in hills about eight miles north of Jerusalem.

Soon the sound of Philistine marching boots, the clank of armor, and the bellow of war trumpets echoed off Mizpah. “When the Israelites heard of it, they were afraid . . .” (7:7). No doubt. Concentrating on the Lord is daunting when dangers (dare we add personal problems or financial difficulties) clamor for attention.

Victory through God

Samuel, however, urged Israel to fasten on God. “Do not stop crying out to the Lord our God for us, that he may rescue us” (7:8). Strength was not in their military might, but in the Lord’s omnipotence.

God confirmed that. With Israeli knees bent in prayer and without an Israeli sword unsheathed, God’s deafening thunder routed the Philistine army. Panicked, the troops stumbled south toward safety. Their backs made easy targets.

The Philistine losses that day did not completely free Israel. We await Saul and David to accomplish that. Israel, however, did enjoy a season of peace with Philistia and, as a fringe benefit, with the Amorites.

Concentrating on the Lord is daunting when dangers clamor for attention.

To mark the victory, Samuel set up a monument called Ebenezer (“stone of help”). Ebenezer stones (church cornerstones, wedding anniversaries, birthdays) remind us, “Thus far has the Lord helped us.” But our most conclusive proof that there’s always an upside in our downside world is Jesus, “the stone the builders rejected [that] has become the capstone” (1 Peter 2:7).

James A. Aderman is pastor at Fairview, Milwaukee.

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Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 327.

#2. To: SJN (#0)

"And so the escalation-cum-provocation-cum false flag is complete. There was a time when shooting down a foreign jet over one's territory was considered self-defense. But not when the one doing the defending is perpetual media bogeyman Syria, which "unnamed sources say" kills hundreds, nay thousands of its own people daily, usually in round, soundbitey numbers."

Anything starting out to explain the Jewish Homeland fostered by the 1916 Sykes Picot Agreement, augmented by the Churchill 1921 Cairo Conference, furthered by the Balfour declaration 1926 , and cemented with the

POTUS LBJ calling back the fighters to the USS Saratoga to leave the USS Liberty at the mercy of Israeli full on attack....

Anything starting out with:

'As the Bible describes' is full on bat shite crazyland.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-24   10:29:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mcgowanjm (#2)

I have no doubt that anything to do with the Gospel is "crazyland" to you.

You have planks over your eyes and your heart is stone cold.

May our Lord and Savior have mercy on you.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-24   10:37:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: SJN, Satan's Tool, mcgowanjm (#5)

I have no doubt that anything to do with the Gospel is "crazyland" to you.

You have planks over your eyes and your heart is stone cold.

Jimmy's mad at God...Because the Free Will he's given man has been abused (by listening too much to the whispers of Satan). Thus, Jimmy's (ironically) agree to do Satan's bidding. As "revenge".

If THAT isn't crazy, what is??

May our Lord and Savior have mercy on you.

That depends on Jimmy humbling hilsef, doesn't it?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-24   12:27:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Liberator (#22)

JM's resistance of the beast you worship is truly the work of the Lord. Jesus, afterall, was a rebel.

Logsplitter  posted on  2012-06-24   13:46:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Logsplitter (#24)

JM's resistance of the beast you worship is truly the work of the Lord.

So...It's your contention that God is to blame for JM's rejection of God...and worship of Satan?

Wanna clarify?

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-24   14:09:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#26)

No God, no Satan. One can't exist without the other. So when is God going to do domething about this Satan person? Waiting...waiting...waiting...

Logsplitter  posted on  2012-06-24   17:38:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Logsplitter (#27) (Edited)

So when is God going to do domething about this Satan person?

I guess God doesn't think this would be as interesting a place without ole Satan here to mix things up a little.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-06-24   17:55:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: NewsJunky, Logsplitter (#28)

I guess God doesn't think this would be as interesting a place without ole Satan here to mix things up a little.

Will you pass The Almighty's test and humble yourself? Or succumb to your nature and the lies of Satan?

The REALLY "interesting" place will be God's Heaven - and its unimaginable glory.

The OTHER place - not so much. Imagine spending ALL Eternity with THE worst of human elements.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-25   10:02:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Liberator, Logsplitter (#36)

the lies of Satan?

How exactly do you know what are the lies of Satan? He doesn't exactly go around and give press conferences to publicize his activities.

NewsJunky  posted on  2012-06-25   17:09:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: NewsJunky, Logsplitter, Redleghunter, Serenissima Venezia, SJN, Biff Tannen, mcgowanjm, A K A Stone, whyofcourse, sneakypete, arasina (#56)

Please...

THIS may be THE most important 47 minutes of your mortal life.....It's NOT the same ol'. Give this testimony and vivid descriptive "preview" of Hell a chance. Be patience and hear this man out. NO profit. NO motive. NO pontification.

Just a man's nightmare for 23 minutes....

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-26   10:26:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Liberator, NewsJunky, Logsplitter, Redleghunter, Serenissima Venezia, SJN, Biff Tannen, mcgowanjm, A K A Stone, sneakypete, aras (#65)

NWO Noahide Law means DECAPITATION! Bush made this a LAW IN OUR COUNTRY!!!

CHRISTIANS, and any other person who doesn't go along with the NWO is REALLY IN TROUBLE!!


INTERNATIONAL LAW

The Congress of the United States of America has declared that the seven universal laws commanded to Noah (the Noahide laws) are "the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization". U.S. Congress, H.J. Resolution 104, Public Law 102-14, 1991.

This sets the Noahide Laws as the primary basis for International Law, (read “New World Order”) to which all American law MUST conform.

This unique public law remarkably singles out one particular Jewish group for special honour, saying that they embody the principles of these Noahide Laws.

This group is the ultra-orthodox Lubavitch Movement, of the loony Habad Hasids Jews. Al Gore Letter 10 01-Nov-2000 Education Day USA: “Upon seizing the reins of government, the new Noachide leaders will move quickly to implement a full agenda of reform... Full support will be given to Israeli forces to reinvade PLO-controlled areas, with military assistance offered where necessary. Jewish courts will be granted full legal sovereignty over Jewish citizens within each country, who will no longer be subject to the authority of gentile courts. The pre-existing Noachide judges and courts will replace the existing court system of each country, and the legal code will be drastically rewritten to conform to halacha...And law and order will be fully restored through the establishment of internal security measures, again in accordance with Torah law.”

A nation governed by wisdom and moral law sounds reasonable, but it is the identical goal as expressed by the Orders of Freemasonry.

In “The History of Freemasonry,” High Adept and Prince of Masonry - Albert Mackey, provides the sequel to the Egyptian/Cabbalist accounts of Noah. "After Noah’s emergence from the Ark, he is said to have promulgated seven precepts for the government of the new race of men of whom he was to be the progenitor... [1] To do justice [2] Worship God [3] Abstain from idolatry [4] Preserve chastity [5] Do not commit murder [6] Do not steal [7] Do not eat blood."

Mackey further identifies Noah as the originator of a “mystery religion’ known as the “Arkite Worship.”

"The influence of Noah on Masonic doctrine is to be traced to the almost universal belief of men in the events of the deluge, and a consequent establishment in many nations of a system of religion known to ethnologists as the ‘Arkite Worship’...

Hence arose that system known to modern scholars as the 'Arkite Worship' in whose rites and mysteries, which were eventually communicated to the other ancient religions. There were always some allusions to the events of the Noahic flood - to the Ark, as the WOMB OF NATURE, to the eight persons saved in it, as the Ogdoad or sacred number - and to the renovation of the world, as symbolizing the passage from death to immortal life."

These seven laws, to be implemented under the NWO, allows BEHEADING as THE form of capital punishment, principally for what the TALMUD regards as “Idolaters” and “Blasphemers,” or in reality - “Christ honouring” Christians.

“For theological reasons, mostly rooted in ignorance, Christianity as a religion is classed by rabbinical teaching as idolatry. This is based on a crude interpretation of the Christian doctrines on the Trinity and Incarnation. All the Christian emblems and pictorial representations are regarded as 'idols' - even by those Jews who literally worship scrolls, stones or personal belongings of 'Holy Men'."

-- 'Jewish History, Jewish Religion' by Professor Israel Shahak

“All this, and much more like it, proves beyond a doubt that when the Rabbis speak of the idols of the Gentiles among whom they lived at that time, when no idols were worshipped, they clearly meant the Christian "idol," namely, the image of Christ on the crucifix and the Holy Communion.”

-- “The Talmud Judaism's holiest book Unmasked” The Secret Jewish Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians By Rev. I. B. Pranaitis

WHAT ARE THESE LAWS?

The “Encyclopedia Americana” gives its explanation of the Noahide Laws, "Throughout the ages, scholars have viewed the Noahide Laws as a link between Judaism and Christianity, as universal norms of ethical conduct, as a basic concept of international law, or as a guarantee of fundamental human rights for all."

This explanation leads one to believe that everyone on earth will be bound by these seven laws.

However, reliable reports from Jewish sources are that the Jew who lives according to the “Torah,” (certainly not the written Torah given to Moses, but rather the occult/Pharisaic traditions adopted from the mystery religions of ancient Babylon) is exempt.

In other words, these seven Laws were only meant for non-Jews and are to be a direct substitute for the Biblical Ten Commandments.

"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." Talmud: Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

Now does that sound like their “Torah” is the same as our Biblical Old Testament – I think not!

So let’s briefly list these seven NOAHIDE LAWS :

1. Thou shalt not engage in idol worship.

2. Thou shalt not blaspheme God.

3. Thou shalt not shed innocent blood of a human nor foetus nor
ailing person who has a limited time to live.

4. Thou shalt not engage in bestial, incestuous, adulterous, or
homosexual relations nor commit...rape.

5. Thou shalt not steal.

6. Thou shalt establish laws and courts of law to administer these laws

7. Thou shalt not be cruel to animals.

The Jews wish to commence with the U.S. to be ruled by the Noahide Laws, (which at first glance seem to be something harmless and even moral) together with whatever is intrinsically implied in them.

Seeing that “the devil is always in the details,” looking a little closer we can see that the real goal is to have the non-Jewish population of the United States totally subjected and ruled by judicial enactments that are exclusively managed, interpreted and manipulated by orthodox rabbis.

The penalty for violation is clearly spelled out on page 1192 of the “Encyclopedia Judaica,”: " violation of any one of the seven laws subjects the Noahide to capital punishment by DECAPITATION." Rather severe wouldn’t you think?

So, if only one person steps forward to merely accuse any non-Jew of violating any one of these seven laws, that testimony alone – irrespective of the proven truth of the allegation, this would be enough for the sentence of death.

Notice how Deuteronomy 17:6, clearly requires the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses before one who deserves death can be executed. In fact, the last sentence of verse 6 specifically states: “At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall NOT be put to death.”

WHO JUDGES THE JUDGES?

These evil, satanic ghouls masquerading as the “chosen people,” will be represented by pompous, pious looking, bearded Rebbe - “sages,” and will possibly be the judges who cast the ultimate caesarean thumbs down vote for the sacrificial deaths of all tried and true believers that will have been Sealed as righteous by the Most High.

"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless, (non-Jews) is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." (Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772)

It will be simply ancient ritualistic murder that has existed down though the centuries that may culminate in our day, in rivers of blood.

The Sacrament of Christian Communion will be transformed from wine, the symbolic blood of Jesus, to the real blood Of true believers, that will be freely shed under this new, Luciferic Theocracy!

The Jews have always been idolaters whose principal god, Moloch, constantly demanded blood sacrifices, a FACT of which has been proven time and time again throughout history.

Always remember as Biblical fact, that the Jewish establishment succeeded in the illegal trial and subsequent killing and blood-letting of Jesus Christ on the primary basis that He blasphemed God, which is Noahide Law number 2 - “Thou shalt not blaspheme God.” “Extermination of a Christian is a necessary sacrifice to God.” Zohar (II, 43a)

Make no mistake, these remarkable and sickening quotes from the Talmud (Soncino Edition) here and elsewhere, are quite genuine and gleaned from a large variety of reliable sources, (mostly Jewish) at the time of compilation.

These are but a few of the hundreds of Talmudic passages that deal with the recommended treatment of Christians.

The non-Jewish world has suffered unbelievably and endured Zionist world terror for nearly a century, beginning with Jewish Bolshevism and Stalinism. Zionism and the World Jewish Congress have initiated two devastating World Wars, leaving 54 million people killed, with countless millions wounded in spirit soul and body.

THIS is the reality of the Jewish Talmudic “legacy,” and there is much more to come.

THE REAL GOALS

Here, hidden behind a facade of phony, moral statutes and deliberately sympathetic phrases, are the real goals of the Noahide Laws:

1. The replacement of the entire Old Testament and the total rejection of the NT
2. The rejection of the atonement of Christ upon the Cross
3. The rejection of the plan of salvation according to Acts 2:38
4. The spying on one another to supply the one eyewitness needed to execute the death penalty
5. The necessity of keeping the other 66 “lesser known laws”
6. Circumcision of all males
7. Eating only kosher foods
8. Forbidding holding religious services of any type in a place that is not an approved assembly place for Noahides
9. The death penalty for anyone, (Christians being the main target) that claims that God has spoken through them by way of teaching, preaching or writing, that is in any way contradictory to the establishment “worship system.”

"The Christians are always singing about the blood. Let us give them enough of it! Let us cut their throats and drag them over the altar! And let them drown in their own blood! I dream of the day when the last priest is strangled on the guts of the last preacher." (Chairman of the American Communist Party, Gus Hall).

It will be a serious crime to claim to be a Prophet, Preacher, or Pastor, to whom the Antichrist authorities have not issued a certificate of approval, and it will be a death penalty offence to oppose in any way this new “religion.”

By opposition - means to speak against any Jewish Priest, any Jewish Rabbi, any Noahide Minister, any Noahide or Jewish Temple or place of worship, or oppose any doctrine that only the “Rebbe Adepts” teach or advocate.

So under the guise of Pharisaic Jewry, the modern Cabbalists are cunningly taking us all back to Egypt, and to the ancient house of bondage from whence we came.

How then, could any Christian ever support the diabolical plotting behind the precepts of the Noahide laws, to aid in the destruction of the New Testament - the Church, and be complicit in the killing of the precious and faithful Saints of God?

Antichrists are even now arising from all denominations denying that salvation is through Jesus Christ alone. This is that spirit of Antichrist that will join forces with Jewish rabbis together with other “Jewish-Gentile” groups to complete their total destruction of Christianity.

First they will accuse those of being anti-Semites for rejecting Pharisee-Talmudic Judaism, then anti-Semitic for rejecting that the Laws of Moses are still in effect for Jews and Gentiles alike for salvation, and then anti-Semitic yet again because we dare write anything that opposes/exposes their covert agenda.

"All Jews are good by nature, all non-Jews are evil by nature. The Jews are creation's crowning glory, the non-Jews are the scum of the earth."

This quote is typical of the Talmudic-Jewish philosophy that saturates the thinking of Jews such as Rabbi Shneur Zalman, one of the leading “Halacha” scholars in Jewish history according to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, March 11, 1994, page 14.

What will we see in the End Times?

We will see a revival of Judaised law-keeping and a rejection of the New Covenant by the blinded Judeo-Christian sheeple.

If you observe any person saying that the New Testament is not the New Covenant of Jeremiah 31:31-34, you have just met an antichrist - a Concision, a person who has fallen from grace and thus severed themselves from Christ. These cannot be saved, or remain so once they deny the fulfilment by the Messiah of the New Covenant. These will deny the Lord's Passover Memorial Cup, with all that it symbolises and thereby crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and thereby count his blood as an unholy thing. The true blasphemy against the Holy Spirit!

WHAT WILL IT BE LIKE?

My research suggests that this One-World Government, (together with a single monetary system – possibly the Euro) will consist of permanent non-elected oligarchist-elites who are self-chosen from among their numbers in the form of a feudal system similar to that of the Middle Ages.

In this One-World entity, there will be no middle class - only rulers and servants.

All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified code of Noahide laws. These laws will be enforced by a One-World Government police force and a global, multicultural military.

The system will be on the basis of a welfare state, where only those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live, via the mark of the beast.

Those who are rebellious and refuse the mark, will simply be declared outlaws, starved to death and/or killed. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited. National pride and racial identity shall be gradually stamped out and in the transition phase, any mention of one's racial origin shall be subject to severe penalties.

Only one religion will be allowed in the form of Talmudic Judaism, structured and administered by Lubavitcher rebbes and others that have bought the lie.

All tried and true Christ honouring believers will be regarded as (Noahide) lawbreakers and will risk decapitation under this vehemently anti-Christ, beast system.

As an interesting aside, State of Georgia lawmaker Doug Teper (Democrat) has proposed a bill to replace the state's electric chair with the guillotine.

Teper's reasoning? It would allow for death-row inmates as potential organ donors. He says, the "Blade makes a clean cut and leaves vital organs intact." Yeah, right!

"For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, AND THEIR OWN PROPHETS, AND HAVE PERSECUTED US; AND THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, AND ARE CONTRARY TO ALL MEN." (I Thessalonians 2:14-15)

SOURCE http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message547192/pg1

whyofcourse  posted on  2012-06-26   11:54:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: whyofcourse, Liberator, NewsJunky, Logsplitter, Serenissima Venezia, SJN, Biff Tannen, mcgowanjm, A K A Stone, sneakypete, aras (#74)

My research suggests that this One-World Government, (together with a single monetary system – possibly the Euro) will consist of permanent non-elected oligarchist-elites who are self-chosen from among their numbers in the form of a feudal system similar to that of the Middle Ages.

In this One-World entity, there will be no middle class - only rulers and servants.

All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified code of Noahide laws. These laws will be enforced by a One-World Government police force and a global, multicultural military.

The system will be on the basis of a welfare state, where only those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live, via the mark of the beast.

Those who are rebellious and refuse the mark, will simply be declared outlaws, starved to death and/or killed. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited. National pride and racial identity shall be gradually stamped out and in the transition phase, any mention of one's racial origin shall be subject to severe penalties.

Only one religion will be allowed in the form of Talmudic Judaism, structured and administered by Lubavitcher rebbes and others that have bought the lie.

All tried and true Christ honouring believers will be regarded as (Noahide) lawbreakers and will risk decapitation under this vehemently anti-Christ, beast system.

As an interesting aside, State of Georgia lawmaker Doug Teper (Democrat) has proposed a bill to replace the state's electric chair with the guillotine.

Teper's reasoning? It would allow for death-row inmates as potential organ donors. He says, the "Blade makes a clean cut and leaves vital organs intact." Yeah, right!

Whew! And folks got a bit wound up because I posted a few Jack Chick cartoon tracts:) I ask again, what does any of this have to do with dispensationalism and believing Revelation is yet future?

I am getting the picture a bit I think from your posts. This is all about Jews and not liking them.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-26   13:09:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: redleghunter (#80)

My research suggests that this One-World Government,.....

Like that......;}

GOOD NEWS....

World USSA Empire coming to a halt.

Can no longer be sustained.

Air Force Academy evacuated......;}

hot bed of zioFundys.....LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-27   7:54:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: mcgowanjm, TooConservative, Liberator (#106)

My research suggests that this One-World Government,..... Like that......;}

GOOD NEWS....

World USSA Empire coming to a halt.

Can no longer be sustained.

Air Force Academy evacuated......;}

hot bed of zioFundys.....LMFAO

That was not my quote. Perhaps you should address it to the tinfoil hat brigade member who posted it.

Ziofundy's...too funny. Below is the threat:

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-27   16:12:32 ET  (23 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: redleghunter (#115)

I like how Chick waits till the end to show the head revolutionary is wearing a Roman collar.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-27   23:21:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: TooConservative (#137)

I like how Chick waits till the end to show the head revolutionary is wearing a Roman collar.

Christianity and Communism have a LOT more in common than the members of either cult want to admit.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-28   13:51:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: sneakypete, TooConservative (#170)

Christianity and Communism have a LOT more in common than the members of either cult want to admit.

So sayeth the Statist-Pro-Homo Lying Athiest who fails to see the *IRONY* that Commies AND Atheists share the same hatred of Christianity.

Pete also fails to acknowledge that the American Founding Fathers by and large were adherents of the "Cult" of Christianity.

Go ahead Pete and use your *IRONY* ping, dopey.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-29   1:04:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: Liberator (#270)

So sayeth the Statist-Pro-Homo Lying Athiest who fails to see the *IRONY* that Commies AND Atheists share the same hatred of Christianity.

More horseshit. The commies and the churches only hate each other because they are competitors in the same business.

Pete also fails to acknowledge that the American Founding Fathers by and large were adherents of the "Cult" of Christianity.

A easy lie to sell because most people today don't realize it was illegal to NOT believe in God when those men were born and grew up,and impossible to get elected or even run a business if it became known publicly they were non- believers.

Kinda like people like you and your brothers in the Taliban want people to live today.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-29   13:46:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: sneakypete, Redleghunter, TooConservative, LF Christians (#292)

Kinda like people like you and your brothers in the Taliban want people to live today.

You mean Christian "fundies" = Taliban....

Have you ANY idea how ignorant and dopey this makes you look??

Me: "Pete also fails to acknowledge that the American Founding Fathers by and large were adherents of the 'Cult' of Christianity."

Pete: "A easy lie to sell..."

You know - the one thing I and fellow posters always respected about you was your (past) integrity, credibility, and effort to remain as truthful as possible.

You've managed to blow all three.

Opposing all that Christianity stands for is one thing; But it is irrefutable that the Founders of this America by and large were INDEED Christians - many devout. It is THE only reason this nation EVER became a nation and became great.

The ONLY reason the nation is now an EPIC FAIL is exactly because Christian ethics and principles were shoved out the door - beginning in the early 1960s.

As folks like you keep on attacking and chipping away at the Judeo-Christian based foundation, we can count on NO "America" is the near future. Congrats on "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED".

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-29   14:41:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#327. To: sneakypete, Biff Tannen, Liberator, SJN, A K A Stone, TooConservative (#321)

Kinda like people like you and your brothers in the Taliban want people to live today.

Ok, so we are not talking past each other, below is what I posted, not a quote from someone else or an article, MY words. The point of contention is WHO IS REALLY the TALIBAN here? And if someone cannot read more than two lines, sorry this stuff is not a bumper sticker and requires more than that.

You come from a position that sees "tolerance" as being "acceptance."

Gays are asking for acceptance and indoctrination and not tolerance.

The true meaning of tolerance is this: you have a position, I have a position, we do not agree with each other's position but depart peacefully. What comes after this is called acceptance. Acceptance would be we have opposing views and one of us backs down and "accepts" the other's position as their own. Folks like SJN, me, Liberator and A K A Stone are all about tolerance as it is properly defined. We will not accept the homosexual position. And because folk like us do not accept your position on homosexuality there is only one option left to 'win' the debate. That would be called indoctrination and re- education. And WE ARE seeing that indoctrination today are we not? It is happening in the schools, after school programs, on TV and in universities. This week is the 50th Anniversary of the court decisions forbidding prayer and Bible study in public schools. So you can't say the Christians are trying to indoctrinate the kids in public forums, they can't it is illegal. However, given the homosexual lobby is not considered a religion (it should be) they can get local permission from school boards to "evangelize" their position thus cutting off the whole tolerance or acceptance route to the national debate.

That is what good Christian folk are fighting for. Some form of neutrality. If gays can spread their false gospel to the masses unopposed hiding behind the cloak of "intolerance" and "bigotry" of others, The Gospel of Jesus Christ should be getting equal time. And if Christians do not get equal time, then we should be all demanding neutrality, which brings us back to the REAL meaning of tolerance.

So based on the above, you can keep calling us intolerant bigots but that has little meaning and is just a chant. If you were tolerant in the real sense of the word, you could call the Christian response to the homosexual agenda as reactionary. And Christians would be correct and tolerant in calling the radical homosexual agenda an insurgency.

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-29   15:00:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#341. To: redleghunter (#327)

The true meaning of tolerance is this: you have a position, I have a position, we do not agree with each other's position but depart peacefully. What comes after this is called acceptance. Acceptance would be we have opposing views and one of us backs down and "accepts" the other's position as their own.

That's the same place my eyes glazed over before. It's moronic.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-29 19:13:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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