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Title: The ‘Lesser Of Two Evils’ Con-Game
Source: Zero Hedge
URL Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest ... er-two-evils%E2%80%99-con-game
Published: Jun 12, 2012
Author: Submitted by Brandon Smith from Alt-Mark
Post Date: 2012-06-12 14:29:14 by SJN
Keywords: None
Views: 26028
Comments: 64

The ‘Lesser Of Two Evils’ Con-Game

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/06/obamaromney3.jpg

The moral relativism of the “lesser of two evils” philosophy has been draining the heart and soul of America for decades. Many of us in the Liberty Movement understand that it is nothing new, and have come to expect the abusive and emaciated logic it entails from time to time. However, over the course of the past year it has become apparent to me that the talking points and propaganda that drive the hypocritical worldview are being utilized on an even grander scale than ever before. This fact struck me quite sharply while attending a local GOP Lincoln/Reagan dinner event while I was attempting to gauge the overall danger our country would be facing from potential RINO (Republican In Name Only) sellouts as well as what our hopes were for a possible political solution at the local and state level. The “conservative” rally was, to say the least, disappointing.

One thing that stood out plainly at this event, though, was that there was an overall template; an action plan, a message that had been pre-engineered. Someone had sent out a memo, or an email, or a guide, or perhaps beamed talking points directly into the cyborg brains of these political hacks. Their rhetoric was repetitive and uniform and dry like elbow skin. The demand was clearly stated; regardless of who won the Republican Primaries, no matter how unprincipled, how unconstitutional, how despicable, it was our “duty” as conservatives to back them through the national elections. Obama and the Democrats had to be defeated at all costs…

Now, one of the first tenets or rules that a person learns when delving into the Liberty Movement is that there is no such thing as political parties in America today. There are no conflicting interests in Washington D.C. There is no “grand battle” between left and right for the minds of the masses. It is a sham. A con. A fantasy. A false paradigm.

In reality, the leaderships of both fraudulent parties support essentially the same methodology, and that methodology could be summarized thus: Centralize everything, globalize everything, control everything, grow government power, reduce the effectiveness of the citizenry, turn the public against each other, rob them while they’re distracted. If an American does not understand this dynamic and how it is used to dominate the ebb and flow of our culture, then that American knows nothing. He is lost…

Sadly, even those of us who should very well know better than to fall into the false left/right paradigm trap do so on occasion, as has been made painfully obvious by the foolhardy actions of Rand Paul and his blank check endorsement of Mitt Romney. Certainly, this epic blunder, which seems to me to be a blind stab at political maneuvering on the part of Ron Paul’s son, has set off an angry firestorm amongst true Constitutionalists who know every lie Mitt Romney has ever told. People are using words like “betrayal”, and “traitor”, and with good reason, but let’s look at this calamity from the other side of things for a moment…

There are others out there who would applaud Rand Paul’s decision. While many of them will openly admit that they do not feel very secure in the shadow of a Romney presidency, they still rationalize their position by making the “lesser of two evils” argument. “America may be going off the edge of a cliff”, they say, “but at least Romney won’t press the gas peddle as hard as Obama”. Here are just a few of the many reasons why this way of thinking will lead to the end of our society as we know it…

Lesser Of Two Evils? There’s No Such Thing…

First of all, asserting that there is such a thing as a “lesser of two evils” is an act of naivety. It relies on a very dangerous assumption; that one can somehow quantify which candidate is going to hurt the country less. I’ve even read essays by people who pretend they can mathematically delineate the “more evil” of the evils! Not surprisingly, their “logic” invariably leads them to proclaim the lesser evil to be the candidate of the party they happen to belong to. Ignorant Republicans always see the Democrat as the greater evil, while ignorant Democrats always see the Republican as the ultimate monster.

Here’s some math for you: there are two candidates for President of the United States, one is a cannibalistic serial killer who plans to murder 20 more people with his own hands while in office. The other is a cannibalistic serial killer who only plans to kill 19 innocents personally. Which candidate do you support?

The correct answer is NEITHER.

Unless you are a fan of murder, there is no inherent difference between these two demonic bureaucrats. They both stand in opposition to the guiding principles of inborn conscience, as well as the protections provided by the laws of free people. The fact that one man will do slightly less damage during his reign is irrelevant. Is a choice between Stalin and Hitler, for instance, really a choice at all? Which one is the "lesser evil" in this equation?

Some may argue that this comparison is a bit over the top. I beg to differ. Presidents have the power not only to maim and kill en mass, but they also have the power to dismantle the laws which protect our civil liberties. To drive the point home as far as Romney and Obama are concerned, let’s watch the following video, which removes the blinders and exposes these two charlatans for what they really are; two peas in a pod:

A refusal to vote, or a vote for a third party, is not a vote for Obama, or a vote for Romney, but a vote against the charade.

There is no such thing as a “lesser evil”. Either a candidate follows the path of truth and honor, or he does not. If he does, he deserves our support. If he does not, or if both candidates are criminals, then they both must be tossed to the wayside. Just because the system has deliberately limited our choices does not mean we are required to participate in the flim-flam.

Participation Is A Duty?

I have also heard the argument that by refusing to participate within the system, and by refusing to choose a specimen from the carnival of horrors we are presented every election cycle, we are doing more harm to America than good. This is the most prevalent falsehood of our era.

The bottom line is, Americans have been dancing in the lesser of two evils pageantry for generations and our Constitutional shield has only been further degraded and destroyed in that time. I defy anyone to show how choosing Obama over McCain, or Bush over Gore, or Clinton over Bush Sr. has helped this country or its people. Where are these illusory advantages and benefits of participation? Where has our country gone while the public fettered away years trying to decide which ghoul to hand over the scepter of empire to? Or, the ultimate question; what specifically have they achieved? Have they gained anything? Has any minutia of our lives been made better by following the “lesser of two evils theory”? Only a fool would claim yes…

One might argue that a non-vote is the same as putting all bad candidates on the same footing, and that this would be “wrong”. I disagree. In an election in which all candidates share the same disparaging policies, they are ALREADY on the same footing. We simply refuse to give the farce legitimacy by casting our vote for any one of them.

In the game of chess, the primary goal is to diminish your opponent’s options. To force him into a corner where, no matter which choice he makes, he loses. Chess, however, is not life. In life, intelligent and creative individuals have the ability to walk away from the board completely and implement their own solutions. The more we continue to participate in the rigged game, and the more we continue to view the future as a series of self contained boundaries administered by the establishment instead of a wide open frontier in which all is possible, the more we will lose, until there is nothing left.

Only Cowards Compromise In The Face Of Evil

Good does not compromise with evil. As stated above, there is nothing to be gained by it. I find that the people most prone to suggesting or demanding compromise with oligarchs and tyrants are usually cowards who have never faced down any legitimate struggle in their lives with any passion. But, how do they sell this stunted philosophy to others? The illusion here is one of “reason” or “objectivity”.

Fearful men often use the guise of objectivity (even if they are not) to avoid confrontation, especially confrontation with a supposed authority figure or government. Strangely, their powers of reason and deduction invariably seem to lead them to subservience to the establishment structure. Compromise, for them, is a way to protect their flailing egos by playing the role of the “even handed citizen” while at the same time crawling towards servitude.

The argument to this position would, of course, be that many in the Liberty Movement compromise with evil everyday. That we follow laws we disagree with and that we find reprehensible, and that this makes us somehow “hypocritical”. I would say that this is a very narrow and disingenuous view.

Free minded people do not “follow” reprehensible laws so much as tolerate them while working to dismantle them (“following” infers acceptance). Being honorable and generally of good will, we look for peaceful avenues of redress and change. But, if those avenues are closed to us, and if the injustices expand, the free minded become freedom fighters. Dissent and even revolution are inevitable in the face of tyranny. It is an undeniable feature of human nature.

What I find most interesting though is the conundrum that this conflict of interest creates for the skeptical establishment slave. If the Liberty Movement tolerates bad law while searching for a peaceful path towards change, they call us hypocritical. If the Liberty Movement abandons tolerance and bring force to bear against tyranny and its abuse of the law, they call us “fringe extremists”. Apparently, the only way we can be correct in the eyes of self proclaimed objectivists is if we bow to the constraints of the system, sit back, keep our mouths shut, and enjoy the bread and circuses.

The Greatest Evil Is Moral Relativism

Collectivist governments seek to encourage extreme moral flexibility. Totalitarian regimes cannot survive otherwise. The lesser of two evils sales pitch is, in the end, an extension of the methodology of moral relativism. It trains us to embrace the status quo, whether we like it or not, and to continuously rationalize our adherence to the sham just to get through the day. The mental gymnastics we are required to perform become more complex and unstable. Eventually, in order to ease our consciences which are screaming in agony at the pit of our chests, we have to stop caring about anything, and just go through the motions of participation.

This is not the way to freedom.

There are other ways to secure liberty beyond elections, but for these strategies to be effective, we have to stop asking for permission from the establishment before we take action. Perhaps you seek to step outside the box and away from the controlled paradigm. Perhaps you seek to confront the system head on, either exposing its duplicity and evil, or erasing it as an obstacle completely. The system, its laws, and its political theater are of no consequence, especially when it has been so corrupted.

Moral relativists, though keen on the idea of mutable law, enjoy the trappings of the law as long as it is to their benefit. The law, as I have pointed out in the past, is arbitrary, and always has been. The only true law is the law of inherent and universal conscience. My conscience, as with most other people, tells me that choosing the “lesser of two evils” (an illogical abstraction) sends a message to the elitists that manipulate our culture that I am willing to help them perpetuate their fiction. I become an accomplice in the crime. I commit self mutilation. I give power to the lie.

Such institutionalized misery can only be undone by uncompromising men and women who put principles and conscience before comfort, or even before their own lives. All throughout history, this is how wrong is undone. No society ever changed for the better by casting aside their beliefs and their individualism. No society ever changed for the better by choosing the lesser of two evils. No society ever changed for the better by holding out the hand of friendship to despots, maniacs, and con-men in the hopes that they would be spared just a little less tragedy before their time on this Earth is over…

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#1. To: All (#0)

When I hit preview to post an article I can only get the video by using that feature alone. If I hit Preview w/auto link, I can get the picture but not the video.

So here's the picture that didn't show up the first go round.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-12   14:32:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: SJN (#0)

ABO

calcon  posted on  2012-06-12   14:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: SJN (#1)

So, what's the con?

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-12   14:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: SJN, A K A Stone (#0)

"Free minded people do not “follow” reprehensible laws so much as tolerate them while working to dismantle them (“following” infers acceptance). Being honorable and generally of good will, we look for peaceful avenues of redress and change. But, if those avenues are closed to us, and if the injustices expand, the free minded become freedom fighters. Dissent and even revolution are inevitable in the face of tyranny. It is an undeniable feature of human nature. ...

My conscience, as with most other people, tells me that choosing the “lesser of two evils” (an illogical abstraction) sends a message to the elitists that manipulate our culture that I am willing to help them perpetuate their fiction. I become an accomplice in the crime. I commit self mutilation. I give power to the lie.

Such institutionalized misery can only be undone by uncompromising men and women who put principles and conscience before comfort, or even before their own lives. All throughout history, this is how wrong is undone. No society ever changed for the better by casting aside their beliefs and their individualism. No society ever changed for the better by choosing the lesser of two evils. No society ever changed for the better by holding out the hand of friendship to despots, maniacs, and con-men in the hopes that they would be spared just a little less tragedy before their time on this Earth is over… "

Thanks, SJN, great article!! A keeper!

I Repeat!!!

A K A Stone: "Choose sides"

Murron: "No, I won't, I have my own side!

That's the beauty of 'freedom of choice' in this country, stone, we don't have to choose the lessor of two evils because you think the most evil will win, that's your opinion, we all have them. I will vote for whomever I choose, I will not be nagged into voting your way, or any other persons way." jmho!

"A friend will calm you down when you are angry, but a best friend will skip beside you with a baseball bat singing, "someone's gonna get it"

Murron  posted on  2012-06-12   14:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: SJN, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0) (Edited)

"I believe in background checks at gun shows, or ANYWHERE." ~George W. Bush

Bush's statement in the Tempe, AZ debate re "gun control" was what convinced me not to vote for him in '04.

As if background checks for a God given right at gun shops, isn't bad enough.

Mitt and Obama are the same, globalist anti-American bushbots in every way including our God given civil rights.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-06-12   14:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: calcon (#2)

ABO

???

SJN  posted on  2012-06-12   15:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: harrowup (#3)

So, what's the con?

The "con" is the idea that one has to choose between a lesser evil over evil.

It's all evil.

Since you had to ask, I can see why you are confused.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-12   15:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: SJN (#6)

Anybody But Obama.

calcon  posted on  2012-06-12   15:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SJN (#7)

Since you had to ask, I can see why you are confused.

I am not confused; the author is bending logic out of reason.

A moral man cannot be evil. It isn't a matter of lesser; it is not either or. It is absolute.

"The Ethical man knows he shouldn't cheat on his wife. The Moral man wouldn't."

Romney is a moral man. The other guy is not.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-12   15:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: harrowup (#9)

I am not confused;

Romney is a moral man.

How the hell would YOU know?

Are you his brother? His psychiatrist? Even his barber?

Have you ever even been in the same building with him at the same time?

You aren't confused, you're just damned stupid.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-12   19:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: We The People (#10)

Have you ever even been in the same building with him at the same time?

Why yes, now that you ask. He and GW both have a great sense of humor, the kids love them and Laura gave him a hug.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-12   19:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: harrowup (#11)

Have you ever even been in the same building with him at the same time?

Why yes, now that you ask. He and GW both have a great sense of humor, the kids love them and Laura gave him a hug.

Oh Lord, here we go again.

Tell me, it wasn't by chance a great big White House was it?

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-12   19:23:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: We The People (#12)

Tell me, it wasn't by chance a great big White House was it?

No, but your inferiority complex is getting the best of y'all.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-12   19:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: harrowup (#13)

Try to focus here...

Which building were you, Romney and Bush in, all at the same time, with 'the kids'?

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-12   19:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: We The People (#12)

Oh Lord, here we go again.

Tell me, it wasn't by chance a great big White House was it?

Humor the old man, he's gotten senile.

calcon  posted on  2012-06-12   19:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: We The People (#14)

Which building were you, Romney and Bush in, all at the same time, with 'the kids'?

Secret.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-12   19:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: calcon, We The People (#15)

Humor the old man, he's gotten senile.

Your fantasies are juvenile at best. I thought weeps was in 5th grade dramas.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-12   19:32:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: calcon (#15)

Humor the old man, he's gotten senile.

LOL!

He's like my brother-in-law, who'll look you right in the eye and tell you he caught a catfish with a head as wide as a Chevy van in a 1 foot deep creek.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-12   19:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: harrowup (#9)

Moral men do not advocate the murder of unborn children.

Logsplitter  posted on  2012-06-12   19:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Logsplitter (#19)

Moral men do not advocate the murder of unborn children.

That is correct.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-12   22:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: SJN, Murron (#0)

Romans 3:23

King James Version (KJV)

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

So all men and women have sinned. We have all done evil. We are all sinners. So no matter who is running one is always more evil then the other. It is either Romney or Obama. I will take my chance on Romney. We all know the road we are on is bad. If I'm wrong you can chide me later on. If Obama wins I can chide you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-12   22:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: harrowup (#20)

Logsplitter: Moral men do not advocate the murder of unborn children.

harrowup: That is correct.

What do you know about morality, Admiral?

As a forum, are we going to have a lecture about how GREAT Bill Clinton did Monica Lewinsky in the Oral Office?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-12   23:09:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: We The People, calcon (#18)

Humor the old man, he's gotten senile.

LOL!

He's like my brother-in-law, who'll look you right in the eye and tell you he caught a catfish with a head as wide as a Chevy van in a 1 foot deep creek.

LMAO!

What a punching bag the Goat Herder in the Coalmine has been.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-12   23:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo (#22)

What do you know about morality, Admiral?

Sociopaths rationalize ANY thing.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-12   23:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#22)

As a forum, are we going to have a lecture about how GREAT Bill Clinton

If you can find any comment by me anywhere in the universe saying anything about Bill Clinton in a positive light I'll send you a thousand bucks.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-12   23:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: harrowup (#25)

OK, how about how GREAT "yukon" *is* to use Bill Clinton's redefinition of the English grammar.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-12   23:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#26)

That does not make sense. But yukon has certainly managed to knock you on your ass without a sweat. Time after time after time.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-12   23:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Liberator (#24)

Sociopaths rationalize ANY thing.

Case in point.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-12   23:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: harrowup, liberator (#27)

Madam Mensa's Emporium of Gay & Statist Sociopaths - courtesy of Liberator: yukon has certainly managed to knock you on your ass without a sweat. Time after time after time.

I just watch your statist-faggot team think I do anything at all. And I laff watching everyone else kick your collective asses.

You can't figure anything out, admiral. And you never will. But let me give you a sense of truth: yukon did it.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-12   23:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: SJN (#0)

The ONLY reason to register and vote in the sElections is the voter registration rolls is the surest ticket to JURY DUTY in most states where we have the power to nutralize this Kenite Carnival of horrors consisting of "gun control", compulsory government school attendence, debt / usury money and permanent copyright laughingly called the "law" even though every bit of it goes against the REAL LAW (The Constitution and the Holy Bible) one case at a time through JURY NULLIFICATION ON AN ORGANIZED BASIS.

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Coral Snake  posted on  2012-06-13   2:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo (#29)

I just watch your statist-faggot team think I do anything at all. And I laff watching everyone else kick your collective asses.

You can keep telling yourself that as long as you wish just to keep your fantasy alive but your alternate universe is just that. A joke.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-13   11:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo, harrowup (#27)

But yukon has certainly managed to knock you on your ass without a sweat

That's why every time you show (or they think it's you) they started whining to goldi to have the alias banned.

For guys who whine to the forum moderator about everything, they sure talk a good fight. Unfortunately, they fight from behind a woman's skirt.

calcon  posted on  2012-06-13   11:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: calcon (#32)

"But yukon has certainly managed to knock you on your ass without a sweat"

That's why every time you show (or they think it's you) they started whining to goldi to have the alias banned.

You mean calling the Idiot Martian, bucky and your matchbook car, calcon is whining?

Are there others pretending to be bucky? Sure. They do it badly and when the time comes they'll get theirs as well.

Goldi isn't going to do anything at my command or anyone else that I know.

That doesn't annoy me. What annoys you is that she won't get rid of yukon.

He doesn't have to tell her that. He wants her to know that you and liberator and TooPhony are making some of the dumbest charges since everyone at Clone Pussy continued to accuse Jim Robinson of fleecing his flock.

For pete's sake if you guys can't get over being bounced from FR & LP then change your IDs (no problem for any of you) and act like decent carbon life forms.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-13   11:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: harrowup (#33)

I saw that rf396 finally bozo'd yukon after giving him the red-headed step-child treatment for days.

It may have added months to his life.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-13   11:47:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Fred Mertz (#34)

I saw that rf396 finally bozo'd yukon after giving him the red-headed step-child treatment for days.

It may have added months to his life.

rf396 either tries too hard to sound stoned or he is stoned and doesn't know it but while he may have thought he was landing a punch the fact that he couldn't take the return fire and bozo'd yukon sorta gives the decision to yukon...much like the Pacquino fight.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-13   12:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: harrowup (#33)

The folks over at 4um got a much better CT about you and the posse's hidden ownership in LP. Check it out it's highly amusing and I'm sure they'd welcome your input.

Check with yukie for a link, I'm sure the princess trolls that website just like all the others.

calcon  posted on  2012-06-13   12:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: harrowup (#35)

Heck, I finally bozo'd yukon when on elPee. It was a breath of fresh air for me but you can go ahead and call me defeated.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-13   12:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: calcon (#36)

The folks over at 4um got a much better CT about you and the posse's hidden ownership in LP. Check it out it's highly amusing and I'm sure they'd welcome your input.

That will be worth a look. Anything else has to be more rational than TooPhony's conspiracy hook.

It will have to wait, however. The dew is off the field and time to go get the 2nd cutting of the year. Weather like this spring we'll have 4 hauls and not have to buy any this winter.

Thank you for the heads up. (I have a link to f4um.)

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-13   12:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: harrowup (#33)

That doesn't annoy me. What annoys you is that she won't get rid of yukon.

OH HELL NO.

We like to keep yukon quarantined over at LP.

I for one would certainly not like to be responsible for unleashing his in creditable stupidity and gayness on normal folks.

calcon  posted on  2012-06-13   12:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Fred Mertz (#37)

...go ahead and call me defeated.

You get a pass. I like you, and like me, like animals more than humans.

Gotta go.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-13   12:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: calcon (#39)

He is a man of few and blunt words and unlike TooPhony and the countess doesn't take half a page to screw with your head. Now I really gotta go.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-13   12:14:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Murron, SJN, A K A Stone (#4)

Thanks, SJN, great article!! A keeper!

Yes indeed.

I have tried in a variety of different ways, to post my thoughts on this subject, but the author cuts through the propaganda, and captures the essence of my position perfectly.

The elegance with which this article dispatches the "lesser of two evils" mantra is simply sublime.

Thanks for post, SJN.

Stone, have you nothing to say?

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-06-13   12:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: capitalist eric (#42)

BOOKMARKED.

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-06-13   12:54:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: harrowup, calcon (#33)

Are there others pretending to be bucky? Sure. They do it badly and when the time comes they'll get theirs as well.

I wuz hacked?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-13   21:19:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: buckeroo (#44)

Depends... Were you wearing yellow spandex?

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-06-13   21:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Capitalist Eric, harrowup (#45)

Were you wearing yellow spandex?

Unlike the gay posse baditoes of LP, I don't walk on the wild-side.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-13   22:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Capitalist Eric (#45)

btw, what did you think of JP Morgan-Chase today in testimony to Congress? Wasn't that a hoot?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-13   22:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Capitalist Eric (#45)

Depends... Were you wearing yellow spandex?

You got it right first try...Depends.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-13   22:59:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: harrowup, Capitalist Eric (#48)

You got it right first try...Depends.

So CE got it right the first time admiral. You're wearing Depends.

How are the goats taking that?

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

(Boris Y) "I'd vote for obama"

(Mad Dog, Paul voter) IF RonniePAULIE runs as a repukelican't, (OR even as a demonRAT), against the messiah "king" obammy; I'd vote FOR him.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2012-06-14   0:31:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: harrowup (#9)

"The Ethical man knows he shouldn't cheat on his wife. The Moral man wouldn't."

Romney is a moral man. The other guy is not.

You mean to tell me there are politicians out there with morals???

I must have slept through that revelation being made public!!

Looks like we know who you're gonna vote for....

Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5!! Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-14   7:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Wood_Chopper (#49)

Chopper! What it iz??

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-14   9:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: CZ82 (#50)

""The Ethical man knows he shouldn't cheat on his wife. The Moral man wouldn't."

"Romney is a moral man. The other guy is not.""

You mean to tell me there are politicians out there with morals???

Well, if all politicians are unethical if follows that some are moral.

Thank you for your support.

Nice to have some sanity back.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-14   9:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: harrowup (#52)

Well, if all politicians are unethical if follows that some are moral.

ROTFLMAO.....

Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5!! Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-14   20:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: CZ82 (#53)

ROTFLMAO.....

That is very dangerous.

Do you know the meanest creature in the world?

The hippialligator.

He has the head of a hippo on the front and the head of an alligator at the back.

You may wonder how he shits.

He don't. That's what makes him so mean.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-14   23:17:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: harrowup (#54)

Somewhat akin to yourself being a lifetime card carrying ACLU member of the highest rank while consistently voting for all names possible as long as the name enjoyed a (D) in a poll for your eager chad puncher.

Somewhat akin to you licking yukon's front and behind body parts on LP, correct?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-15   0:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: buckeroo (#55)

You are incorrect as usual.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-15   0:30:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: harrowup (#54) (Edited)

Do you know the meanest creature in the world?

Yea, any politician!!!

Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5!! Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-15   6:25:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: CZ82 (#57)

"Do you know the meanest creature in the world?"

Yea, any politician!!!

Well, they sure do smile a lot.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-15   7:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Stoner (#0)

Self Ping

Stoner  posted on  2012-06-15   10:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: SJN (#0) (Edited)

A refusal to vote, or a vote for a third party, is not a vote for Obama, or a vote for Romney, but a vote against the charade.

That's a suicide pact in the name of principle. NOT good enough. FWIW, the "Charade" has been in play since the end of WWII...

For now (and for the next 4 years) the reality is:

Sociopath, fascist, and Comrade 0buma and his minions have been engaged for the last entire 3 1/2 years of promoting a Scorched Earth policy, designed to sabotage and undermine the U.S's economy, security, businesses, standard of living, prestige, military, race-relations, confidence, and every sector of American institution.

Romney? Not nearly perfect, BUT...

...Prove that Romney's past remotely suggests HE will be promoting anywhere NEAR the same agenda as the Whitey-hating, America-hating, Queer AND Terrorist-Friendly, Communist, Sh*t-Stirring Muslim elitist-foreigner.

Anyone?? State your case.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-15   12:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Capitalist Eric (#42) (Edited)

The elegance with which this article dispatches the "lesser of two evils" mantra is simply sublime.

It's so "sublime" it's practically made national suicide a noble act.

"The Lesser of Two Evils" theory exists in EVERY political choice of options ever made.

Only a severe disconnect with reality convinces anyone that 0buma = Romney = 100% Evil.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-15   12:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Liberator (#61)

Only a severe disconnect with reality convinces anyone that 0buma = Romney = 100% Evil.

Thanks for conclusively proving that you're one of the sheeple.

Bye, bozo.

"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-06-15   14:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: harrowup (#58)

Well, they sure do smile a lot.

Why shouldn't they, there are way too many people that believe their BS and they are well aware of that fact....

Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5!! Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-15   16:20:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Capitalist Eric (#62)

Thanks for conclusively proving that you're one of the sheeple.

Bye, bozo.

Coward. You have failed to dismiss the following:

Sociopath, fascist, and Comrade 0buma and his minions have been engaged for the last entire 3 1/2 years of promoting a Scorched Earth policy, designed to sabotage and undermine the U.S's economy, security, businesses, standard of living, prestige, military, race-relations, confidence, and every sector of American institution.

...Prove that Romney's past remotely suggests HE will be promoting anywhere NEAR the same agenda as the Whitey-hating, America-hating, Queer AND Terrorist-Friendly, Communist, Sh*t-Stirring Muslim elitist-foreigner.

Prove that he will be the same saboteur and hater of America's heritage, traditions, and past glorious history.

So Eric, in your opinion are 0buma and Romney 10% alike? 50%? 75%? OR (*snicker*) 100%??

THEN please also explain when Romney joined the Communist Party, coveted OUR wealth for parasites, conspired with a Russian leader to undermine US security, was raised by virtual animals, attended a Church of Hate Whitey (or Hate Homie), and was friendly with known terrorists.

Thanks.

Liberator  posted on  2012-06-15   19:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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