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Title: Websites to be forced to identify trolls under new measures
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BBC
URL Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18404621
Published: Jun 11, 2012
Author: BBC
Post Date: 2012-06-11 20:09:35 by We The People
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Sites such as Facebook have been used to abuse people under the mask of anonymity Websites will soon to be forced to identify people who have posted defamatory messages online. New government proposals say victims have a right to know who is behind malicious messages without the need for costly legal battles. The powers will be balanced by measures to prevent false claims in order to get material removed. Last week, a British woman won a court order forcing Facebook to identify users who had harassed her. Nicola Brookes had been falsely branded a paedophile and drug dealer by users - known as trolls - on Facebook. Facebook, which did not contest the order, will now reveal the IP addresses of people who had abused her so she can prosecute them. The new powers, to be added to the Defamation Bill, will make this process far less time-consuming and costly, the government said. Complying with requests would afford the website greater protection from being sued in the event of a defamation claim. End to 'scurrilous rumour' Currently, in legal terms, every website "hit" - visit - on a defamatory article can be counted as a separate offence. This means many websites remove articles as soon as a defamation claim is made - either rightly or wrongly. "Website operators are in principle liable as publishers for everything that appears on their sites, even though the content is often determined by users," said Justice Secretary Ken Clarke. "But most operators are not in a position to know whether the material posted is defamatory or not and very often - faced with a complaint - they will immediately remove material. Nicola Brookes said the abuse started after she posted a message about an X Factor star "Our proposed approach will mean that website operators have a defence against libel as long as they identify the authors of allegedly defamatory material when requested to do so by a complainant." Mr Clarke said the measures would mean an end to "scurrilous rumour and allegation" being posted online without fear of adequate punishment. "The government wants a libel regime for the internet that makes it possible for people to protect their reputations effectively but also ensures that information online can't be easily censored by casual threats of litigation against website operators. "It will be very important to ensure that these measures do not inadvertently expose genuine whistleblowers, and we are committed to getting the detail right to minimise this risk."
Websites to be forced to identify trolls under new measures
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#1. To: We The People (#0)
It is about time. So let's start naming names: yukon, gatlin, harrowup, grandIsland, 22rifle, Goldi-Lox. Let us not forget special mention: SOD.
It's from dotty old England. They have a totalitarian streak. People should be careful though as British laws can reach overseas. I think this will only apply to people who identify themselves by name. It won't apply to anonymous handles except in rare instance (like a famous but anonymous blogger which is a case of a pen name). The day they start doing this in the States, I'll stop posting altogether.
Isn't Facebook hosted here? Facebook, which did not contest the order, will now reveal the IP addresses of people who had abused her so she can prosecute them.
How is this possible? It isn't.
In America, libel has to be false information and it must have demonstrable malicious intent. In England & Wales, even if it is true, you're guilty if it is even considered derogatory and has been published anywhere in the world. I know, it sounds crazy to us. But this is Nazi England we're talking about. So if you libel a Brit here and they are after you, any vacation in England is a real bad idea. And better sell that property you own in any British jurisdiction.
In England & Wales, even if it is true, you're guilty if it is even considered derogatory and has been published anywhere in the world. Doesn't the harm to the person need to be proven here as well?
#20. To: Serenissima Venezia (#19)
That's the point. In England/Wales, you're guilty even if it is true but it is considered derogatory. IOW, truth is no defense. Also, here in the States, celebrities and pols get little protection as public persons. Much harder for them to pursue cases. Usually, they end up spending tons of money (millions in some cases) and it goes nowhere. Unless they are rich enough they are just trying to break a libeler/slanderer through legal fees.
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#6. To: TooConservative (#5)
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#7. To: We The People (#6)
Facebook, which did not contest the order, will now reveal the IP addresses of people who had abused her so she can prosecute them.
#9. To: buckeroo (#7)
How is this possible? It isn't.
#19. To: TooConservative (#9)
In America, libel has to be false information and it must have demonstrable malicious intent.
Replies to Comment # 19. Doesn't the harm to the person need to be proven here as well?
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