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Title: Ok Third Partiers. WHO CAN WIN? Come on tell me.
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Published: Jun 8, 2012
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2012-06-09 00:35:31 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 82

Some of you people say Ron Paul is the only one you would vote for. Well if he isn't on the ballot what good will that do? Oh you're going to write him in. What an exercise in futility. There is no third party candidate to unite behind. It isn't there aint happening sadly. Face reality.

As anyone here knows I supported Ron Paul this election and last election. So don't give me no shit about my rant here. I would prefer Ron to the two clowns we have to choose from. But we really do only have these two clowns to choose from One will be President come January, like it or not or if you abstain from voting or not.

Now onto Romney. Everyone knows he has a lot of faults. But does he have more faults then Obama? Hell no it isn't even close. You would have to be a fucking retard to compare the two. So don't be retarted and tell me that that there isn't a dimes worth of difference. Because I know there is.

Take Obamas commie takeover of the healthcare system. Romney says he would repeal it. I don't think Romney always tells truth...duh. But this is something that is very much wanted by the people who voted for him. If he defeats Obama he knows that presidents can sometimes only serve one term. So expect him to deliver on that if he is sent the bill.

There are morons all over the internet. So lets start with some known ones. To the morons at freedom4um. You know the nutjob we hate jews but we pretend we only hate "zionists" website. You are now all carbon copies of each other. How pathetic. Christine and Jethro have banned everyone that doesn't hate Jews. Well almost everyone. Notice how everyone of those freedom4um toads always say the same thing.

Here let me quote some of the idiots.

#1. To: Artisan (#0)

lost my vote

Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend posted on 2012-06-08 0:53:39 ET

Rand Paul is a douchebag.

Vote absentee. It is a paper ballot PnbC posted on 2012-06-08

So much for the theory that Rand will be the benefactor of the Freedom movement dad is building.

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-06-08

I could post more examples but you get the point. Go over there day or night and you will see articles of propaganda about Jews. Why do they hate the Jews so much? I don't know, do any of you know? It makes no sense.

These people are almost all dumb asses. Yes Jethro you are a dumb ass too. Do these people not know that the Republican nomination is over. Ron Paul isn't going to be the nominee. Get over it. They don't even know that on Ron Pauls own website he carries Rands endorsement. So if he doesn't have a problem why do these nobodies? These freaks give Ron Paul supporters a bad name. They are like a cult. Who are they supporting that is going to win. Nobody. Nobody. They aren't going to support anyone that has a chance. They are just people that are not happy no matter what.

Then on this forum too. We have people. You give me a hard time about supporting Romney. Ok fair enough. You have a right to do that, just like the idiots at 4um. But by not voting or by not voting for someone viable against Obama what have you accomplished. Nothing not a thing now squat. Oh you can brag I didn't vote. That is some bragging right. Do you fools not realize how bad Obama is. Think of the people he will put on the supreme court. Look at what he has already put on the court. He put two dykes on the court because he hates white males. Do you really think Romney could do worse? If you do you are retarded.

And you little dweeb Ferret Mike. I really don't give a shit if you know why christine banned me. So when you post it from now on I command you to post it in context. That the nitwit christine who poses in sexy lingere on the internet and runs the freedom4um website got her panties in a wad when I pointed out that most of her posters were Jew haters who would be happy with someone like Adolph hitler at the helm. So Yes you little twit ferret christine did ban me because I posted a thread asking if it would be better if all the jews were killed. You value free speech so much little Mike why don't you talk about that. Dumb ass. Afterall christine does tolerate some sick mother fucker who goes by the name esso. I call him esso the sicko. Here is an example of the people that these twits at freedom4um like posting at their little Jew hate site.

"The next slogan could easily be "6 Million More"

No. Should be 18 million more. Time to answer the jewish question once and for all. " posted by this esso the sicko here is the link. Christine deleted it because it exposed her as a nazi type person.

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=105917

No problemo I have a copy of part of it here

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5000

So you dumb ass little rat quote it in context from now on or I will delete it and or you.

Also Mike. I believe in God. You don't. This is a website run by someone who does. So if you want to come here and screw with me posting your little images ridiculing christ. You will be gone. Ok weirdo. No I don't want an answer this is my rant. I said I don't want to hear your opinion or debate you on it. So just note in in your pea little brain.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Ok Third Partiers. WHO CAN WIN? Come on tell me.

FWIW! I don't mean to rain on your parade, stone, I'm not calling you a liar, I know you feel strongly about this issue, and you have good reason to feel the way you do, millions do, but that is no reason for all of us to give up hope that we don't have other choices, because we do, third parties have been elected in our past, and they may still be our hope for the future. JMHO! ;)

Third party candidate can win the 2012 election for President of the U.S.A.:

The First Party System of The United States featured the FEDERALIST Party and the DEMOCRAT-REPUBLICAN Party. The Era of Good Feelings (1816–1824), marked the end of the First Party System.

The elitism of the Federalists had diminished their appeal, and their refusal to support the War of 1812 verged on secession and was a devastating blow when the war ended well.

It is now 2012, the Bicentennial of 1812, and the two party system of Democrats and Republicans can be defeated by a 3rd party this election year. History will repeat itself.

If no candidate receives a majority of electoral votes, the required 270 votes to be elected President, then the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most electoral votes. Each State delegation has one vote.

The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President.

If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.

Because the Libertarian Party is the 3rd largest political party currently in the U.S.A., it is time to take candidates like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson a lot more seriously.

You don't know where peoples' loyalties may lie when they have an opportunity to change history and make one of the major parties "history"!

2012 will show us American politics at its fiercest!

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"A friend will calm you down when you are angry, but a best friend will skip beside you with a baseball bat singing, "someone's gonna get it"

Murron  posted on  2012-06-09   0:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Murron (#1)

that we don't have other choices, because we do, third parties have been elected in our past, and they may still be our hope for the future. JMHO! ;)

Hey I love you Murron. I agree third parties would be good. I hope they can win some day if the R's don't reform. But this election cycle it isn't happening. There is no Ross Perot on the horizon. No one. The election is in 5 months. I've voted third party in the past. I will probably do it again. Not this time though. I would feel really bad if I didn't vote Romney and Obama got back in.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-09   0:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Murron (#1)

Because the Libertarian Party is the 3rd largest political party currently in the U.S.A., it is time to take candidates like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson a lot more seriously.

Gary Johnson is a twit globalist for open borders. Romney at least says the right things. I hope Romney is telling the truth on that one or at least follows through. Even if he didn't he would still be a tie with Johnson or Obama. There are zero nada issues that Obama is better the Romney on. Not a single one.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-09   0:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

And you little dweeb Ferret Mike. I really don't give a shit if you know why christine banned me. So when you post it from now on I command you to post it in context. That the nitwit christine who poses in sexy lingere on the internet and runs the freedom4um website got her panties in a wad when I pointed out that most of her posters were Jew haters who would be happy with someone like Adolph hitler at the helm. So Yes you little twit ferret christine did ban me because I posted a thread asking if it would be better if all the jews were killed. You value free speech so much little Mike why don't you talk about that. Dumb ass. Afterall christine does tolerate some sick mother fucker who goes by the name esso. I call him esso the sicko. Here is an example of the people that these twits at freedom4um like posting at their little Jew hate site.

"The next slogan could easily be "6 Million More"

No. Should be 18 million more. Time to answer the jewish question once and for all. " posted by this esso the sicko here is the link. Christine deleted it because it exposed her as a nazi type person.

Context from now on asshole.

I'll turn your spicket back on in the morning.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-09   1:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone, Ping, Mad Dog (#0)

Any other year but this one, I'd agree with voting for a guy we didn't want and knew was not going to be much more fiscally responsible, etc.than the other. (Or looking at this election as "triage", like Mad Dog has stated, which with any past candidate I could have gone for). Not this time for me though. Nope. I will not vote for a man who belongs to a pagan cult to be the executive. I indeed will write in Ron Paul. This vote is asking me as a Christian to vote for a man who not only is a follower of a pagan cult but is a high up 'teacher' of said cult.

No. Not this time.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-09   1:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: SJN (#5)

This vote is asking me as a Christian to vote for a man who not only is a follower of a pagan cult but is a high up 'teacher' of said cult.

No. Not this time.

Well if there is an argument that is going to make me change my mind again. It would be from your line of attack.

Because in the past I swore I wouldn't vote for Romney. I even predicted he was finished with the birth of the tea party.

I look at it this say. Any other year I would risk a third party vote. But Obama is so bad he has to go.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-09   1:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Gary Johnson is a twit globalist for open borders.

I know this, but Gary Johnson was just an example, not a recommendation....

"A friend will calm you down when you are angry, but a best friend will skip beside you with a baseball bat singing, "someone's gonna get it"

Murron  posted on  2012-06-09   1:10:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Murron, SJN (#7)

I know this, but Gary Johnson was just an example, not a recommendation....

Ok. But that is what I am talking about. There isn't anyone else that is going to unite enough people in the next 5 months. It is going to be Romney or Obama no matter what we do. I think Romney is better.

In Pslams or proverbs it says something about the righteous being happy or rejoicing when they are lead by someone good and being sad or something like that when they are ruled by evil. That was written before christ. I would take it to mean that sometimes we can have a good ruler that isn't a christian. Someone that would do good for the nation.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-09   1:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Murron, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#1)

The Paulites are in a civil war over Rand's endorsement of Willie Mitt. Alex Jones and the infowars bunch are having a melt down. There's talk of an Alex Jones/Webster Tarpley ticket. Jessie Ventura is another candidate sometimes mentioned.

There's a huge mass of the electorate who want nothing to do with either Romney or Obama. The time is right for a third party candidate. Gary Johnson is the Libertarian Party candidate and likely has a good shot at winning, considering the alternatives.

The GOP is on a suicide mission running Mitt. They're self destructing. Running McCain and then Romney should be the end of them. The real race is Johnson vs Obama at this point, IMO.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-06-09   1:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#8)

I would take it to mean that sometimes we can have a good ruler that isn't a christian. Someone that would do good for the nation.

Our Founding Fathers would not see it that way and neither do I. And I don't believe what you mention from the Bible is advocating that we vote for a pagan.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-09   1:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#9)

They're self destructing.

No they're not. They are flexing their power. They have been corrupted and have joined the dark side and most of the "Reagan" Democrats have reverted back to their old ways. The elite Easterner blue bloods are running the show. I do not support them any more. I've had it with their ilk and what they've done to the party. They now own it. The few the Tea Party patriots of this nation have been able to get in is good, but not good enough.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-09   1:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: hondo68 (#9)

Not good enough....... yet anyway. That doesn't mean we don't keep trying to take over from community to community.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-09   1:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: hondo68 (#9)

Gary Johnson

The GOP is on a suicide mission running Mitt.

He is as bad or worse then Romney.

It will be a landslied. Obama is going down for the count.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-09   8:08:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SJN, All (#12)

That doesn't mean we don't keep trying to take over from community to community

You can't just cut off the head and expect the body to crumble, there are way too many pieces of the body for that to happen..... they will just install a new head that thinks like them and nothing will have been gained.... But if you start at the grass root level and work your way up building a new body a piece at a time you'll eventually get what you want, and the current head will die.... (just like what the Paulies are doing right now, taking a piece at a time)..... (it would be nice if the Paulies and Tea partiers would combine forces and get really organized)...

This will take time, it may be 3,4,5 or more election cycles before you realize your dream of having candidates that want the same thing you want for this country instead of the current bunch who just want to "Rule" you and ruin it for everybody!!!

The more guys you get like Scott Walker coming up thru the ranks just gives the voters that many more good options, and sooner or later you will get the guys you really want to vote for...... Not another POS!!!!

(You know I seem to remember saying this before and all I heard was "NO we need a 3rd Party")!!! LOL.....

Political Bumper Stickers: The fastest way in the world to let people know you are a total dumbass.... Total number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far......5!! Total number of Romney 2012 bumper stickers I've seen so far...0!!

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-09   8:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SJN (#10)

Our Founding Fathers would not see it that way and neither do I. And I don't believe what you mention from the Bible is advocating that we vote for a pagan.

Some of them were pagans.

Some of the people who have run for president say they are christians. They are not. What is worse someone who says they are a christian and are not. Or someone who admits he isn't a christian?

The Bible probably doesn't advocate us voting for anyone. As we are not of this world.

Thanks for your words I respect them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-09   8:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#0)

But by not voting or by not voting for someone viable against Obama what have you accomplished. Nothing not a thing now squat. Oh you can brag I didn't vote. That is some bragging right. Do you fools not realize how bad Obama is. Think of the people he will put on the supreme court. Look at what he has already put on the court. He put two dykes on the court because he hates white males. Do you really think Romney could do worse? If you do you are retarded.

And hating white males is Such a popular move these days....;}

not.

Note the number decrying the GOP's shoot down of Equal Pay for Equal Work?

zero.

Here's why a third party ain't happening.

The Two parties have a hammer lock. The Elections have been rigged since 1968. Increasing as the E machines came on line, literally.

Don't ask me what the Dems have gotten out of it. Hillary's the only one I've seen benefit (New Hampshire primary).

Until we leave the Afghans...nothing changes.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-06-09   8:43:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Ok Third Partiers. WHO CAN WIN? Come on tell me.

America's winner take all, single member Congressional districts and electoral college aren't conducive to third parties.

Perot won 19% of the popular vote in 1992. He would have won more if he didn't out himself as a whack job half way through the election.

Perot didn't win a single electoral vote.

Had Perot won 19% of the electoral votes, the election would have been decided by the House of Representatives, controlled by Democrats, who could have voted for anyone they please. We likely would have been looking at a President Ted Kennedy at that point.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-09   9:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Murron (#1)

Because the Libertarian Party is the 3rd largest political party currently in the U.S.A., it is time to take candidates like Ron Paul and Gary Johnson a lot more seriously.

That's an old claim that is no longer correct.

The Constitution Party has more registered voters than any other third party.

The Green Party has the second most registered voters for a third party.

The Libertarians are third, with less then half of the registered voters as the Constitution Party.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-09   9:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#2)

I've voted third party in the past.

I voted for Ron Paul (LP) in 88, Ross Perot in 92, Ralph Nader in 2004, and Bob Barr (LP) in 2008.

At this point, I'm voting for Romney because Obama is the most clueless President we've ever had. He's spent his entire life cavorting with insular leftists in academia. He just doesn't understand how the real world work. I am scared to death what he might do in a second term with executive orders.

The country has one foot off a cliff. We have to take a step back before it's too late.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-09   9:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#0)

There is no third party candidate to unite behind. It isn't there aint happening sadly. Face reality.

I guess that means we are supposed to vote for either Obama or Rombama,neither of whom we want to even see VISITING the White House.

No thanks. I don't want either one of them as a president,so WHY the hell would I vote for either of them?

As far as that goes,if I HAD to cast a vote for one of those two,I'd vote for Obama because he is less dangerous to the Republic than a paler and more competent alleged Republican version of himself that would get Republican support for his bills in the house and senate.

PLUS....,Obama can only serve one more term and we are done with him. Rombama can serve two terms. If you want to see the Republican Party offer us better candidates,you HAVE to stop voting for the losers they keep pushing forward. The more of them you vote for,the more of them you will get to vote for.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-09   10:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone, Murron (#2)

Hey I love you Murron. I agree third parties would be good.

Screw a bunch of 3rd Parties!

What we REALLY need is a SECOND Party!

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-09   10:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#21)

What we REALLY need is a SECOND Party!

That is exactly what we need, petey.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-09   10:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: jwpegler (#19)

I'm voting for Romney because Obama is the most clueless President we've ever had.

Are you kidding me? The fact that he is clueless is the biggest reason to vote for him over Rombama. Look at all the damage he could have done if he had known what the hell he was doing,and the damage a Rombama that ISN'T clueless WILL do if given the chance. And that's not even addressing the FACT that a RINO version of Obama like Rombama will have the full support of the alleged Republican Party to get anything he wants voted forward,and it should be clear to a blind man that Rombama is a bigger threat to the Republic.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-09   10:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Fred Mertz (#22)

What we REALLY need is a SECOND Party!

Even some of the traditional left Dims are waking up and realizing they are getting hosed,just like those of us on the right have been getting hosed ever since Reagan left office.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-09   10:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#24)

I'm disillusioned so my comments reflect that.

Romney couldn't beat McCain last time out. McLame was a terrible candidate, sort of like Bob Dole.

They pull this stuff in front of our eyes - a charade.

I give up.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-09   10:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#6)

But Obama is so bad he has to go.

I agree. Way I look at it...How fast do you want the USA to go to pot? Faster, vote for Odinga. Slow down the sewage slide a bit, vote for Romney. It is not a very appealing situation for a Christian, but in this country we do have a vote, so make it count.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-06-09   11:37:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#23) (Edited)

The fact that he is clueless is the biggest reason to vote for him over Rombama. Look at all the damage he could have done if he had known what the hell he was doing

I didn't say that he was incompetent. I said that he is clueless about how the real world and economy work. Obama knows exactly what he wants - to grow government power and control over society.

Romney is not going to create any new entitlement programs like Bush and Obama did. He is not going to raise taxes like Obama wants to do. Romney is going to reform entitlement programs - he's not going to have a choice, given the country's dire fiscal situation.

Romney understands how businesses are created and succeed. Obama is a blithering idiot. For this reason alone, Romney is a far better choice than Obama. We haven't had a choice as clear as this since Carter / Reagan.


we must as a species go into a period of shrinkage that we have not experienced since the Dark Ages and the Black Plague -- lucysmom (A.K.A. minnigold)

jwpegler  posted on  2012-06-09   12:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: SJN, A K A Stone, ALL (#5)

Any other year but this one, I'd agree with voting for a guy we didn't want and knew was not going to be much more fiscally responsible, etc.than the other. (Or looking at this election as "triage", like Mad Dog has stated, which with any past candidate I could have gone for). Not this time for me though. Nope. I will not vote for a man who belongs to a pagan cult to be the executive. I indeed will write in Ron Paul. This vote is asking me as a Christian to vote for a man who not only is a follower of a pagan cult but is a high up 'teacher' of said cult.

No. Not this time.

The simple fact is that any vote in the national election for anybody but "mittens" is actually a vote FOR the messiah "king" obammy.

Being an adult living in the real world means doing nasty things for the good of your children.

We are supposed to be a secular nation.

The messiah "king" is a monster beyond words. That doesn't change what "mittens" is. It just makes him the lesser of two very great evils.

THIS is the choice OUR Lord has given us.

The messiah "king" obammy is a sucking chest wound, "mittens" is a crushed pelvis. There is no "GOOD" choice.

"Mittens" is just basically feral gooberment business as usual.

OBVIOUSLY the choice is up to each individual American voter.

OUR "morality" and "principles" won't mean shit if the messiah "king" gets four more years to do his historic damage to our nation.

Do you or don't you want to stop this insane MONSTER who is in the whitehouse RIGHT NOW?

TALK IS CHEAP.

All that really matters is what you DO.

IF you vote for someone who has absolutely ZERO chance at being elected as a "protest", your "protest" WILL help re-elect a monster who has NEVER been duplicated in ALL of our history.

Then in a couple of years you can "brag" how YOU didn't vote for either f them.

THAT will help AMERICA and OUR posterity won't it?

When will AMERICANS quit acting like spoiled children?

Tell me how GOOD you are going to feel when the messiah "king" obammy wins and is able to not only continue what he has done so far but to do MORE since he NEVER has to worry again about what Americans want?

I wonder how good your "brag" about not voting against him for a person who could WIN because of your vaunted "morality" and "principles" is going to feel to you then?

But, of course no matter what happens YOU will be able to CLAIM that it was not a result of your INaction.

Do as you will of course, but don't think that you can HIDE behind your so called "morality" or "principles".

You may believe your own bullshit, but we don't have to.

btw; do you suppose that you are the only person facing this choice? You are NOT.

We ALL do.

There is NO NEXT TIME when it comes to national presidential elections. FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS INSANE AMERICA HATING MONSTER WILL DESTROY THIS NATION.

But, of course, YOUR "morality" and "principles" are more important than this Nation and people are. /S

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-09   13:58:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#0)

So don't be retarted and tell me that that there isn't a dimes worth of difference. Because I know there is.

"RETARTED?"

Heh heh heh....! (who are you calling retarted???)

Take Obamas commie takeover of the healthcare system. Romney says he would repeal it. "

Only congress (or in a rare case the SC) can "repeal" a law. Mr. Romney cannot "repeal" anything.

WHO CAN WIN? Come on tell me.

If romney is the best candidate the gopers can put forth........

Obama can win.

Divided partisan control of government is better than one party rule. IMHO

Jameson  posted on  2012-06-09   16:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: jwpegler (#27)

Obama knows exactly what he wants - to grow government power and control over society.

Yeah,but he is clueless about how to get it. His ego and arrogance turn off the Senators he has to sway to get things done. They are every bit his match when it comes to ego-maniac,and even presidents have to kiss their asses to get them to do anything. Obama thinks he is smarter than any of them,and it burns their asses.

"Romney is not going to create any new entitlement programs like Bush and Obama did."

Ever heard of Romney Care? You DO know he was elected to be the governor of Mass,right?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-09   19:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#0)

There is no third party candidate to unite behind.

Some will pick Virgil Goode (Tea Party, Constitution Party types). Gary Johnson shares enough positions with Ron Paul folk to attract many of their votes. These people are in politics for their principles. They want to win but they don't compromise.

Who are they supporting that is going to win. Nobody. Nobody. They aren't going to support anyone that has a chance.

But they can feel wise later. I know of people like Lew Rockwell that refuse even to vote at all. Some people feel very smug about it, like withholding their vote is driving The System nuts or something.

In the end, they still own their vote, even if it does drive you nuts. They prove pretty invulnerable to the "A vote for Candidate X is hopeless and therefore you are actually voting for Candidate Y". Well, it is obviously false to any adult. Your vote can only tally to the candidate listed on the ballot, no one else. Clever arguments don't change that. But these folks do get some gratification from a rant like yours. They feel all warm and fuzzy, "Gee, we really got 'em going now!". Or something. So you are actually rewarding and reinforcing their behavior, it seems.

Even so, you're swimming in a very small pond with this argument. I doubt you can even name more than 30 people at the forums you're mentioning. Let's be generous and say it's 100. Of those, it is almost certain that 12 or fewer in the entire bunch actually live and will vote in one of the 8 identified battleground states in 2012. Of those 12 I'm positing, half will vote for the GOP nominee, mostly as a rejection of Obama (because they're a gunowner or they hate his social liberalism or they oppose gay marriage or whatever). Even if they deny it now, at the last minute, they'll decide not to throw their vote away on a 1 Percenter third party candidate, even if they actually do like him (both Goode and Johnson do have some decent policy points and a good enough record; both are much better than Bob Barr was as the 2008 LP candidate or Chuck Baldwin was as the 2008 CP candidate).

So posting big rants to try to convince less than six people out of a wild assortment of counter-cultural types really is an exercise in herding cats. A small handful of cats.

I hope I'm not spoiling your election season by pointing this out.

Rant off/

You were on a good roll though. I thought you ably defended yourself against some out-of-context quoting.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-09   22:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TooConservative (#31)

Gary Johnson shares enough positions with Ron Paul folk to attract many of their votes. These people are in politics for their principles.

Open borders principles?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-10   7:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: TooConservative (#31)

I hope I'm not spoiling your election season by pointing this out.

You're not spoiling anything. I enjoy reading your posts.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-10   7:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#33)

You're not spoiling anything.

Just don't knock yourself out over a half-dozen votes, that's what I'm sayin'.

And people do own their vote. If you ever hope to persuade them, don't ever even hint that their vote for A is actually a vote for B. Loses every time. In addition, if someone else is giving them a hard time about your-vote-for-X-is-a-vote-for-Obama, you get instant cred by defending that they, and no one else owns their vote and that their vote can only be cast for the person they vote for, not someone else.

You may have noticed I posted that I'm in a total Red state, historically one of the five most Republican, right up there with Utah. And so I do tell people they are perfectly free to throw their vote away (vote their principles) if they are in such a Red state or such a Blue state (like NY or CT) that a vote for the somewhat undesirable GOP nominee wouldn't mean anything anyway because their vote will be taken from them by their fellow-voters and given to either the Dem or the GOP. And a lot of us live in these states that are very Red or very Blue.

But if they live in an actual swing state, like 2012's 8 battlegrounds, then they might want to consider just what the Court will look like if they just let Obama stay in the WH, whether they might later regret their "principles" over the next thirty years when an Obama-appointed majority on the Supreme Court steadily destroys everything they ever believed in. Will they regret it when Obama appoints one or two more justices to re-enact the horrors of the Warren Court? You get the idea.

I find this works much better. If they're in a hopelessly Blue or Red state, they don't matter anyway (and you've avoided picking fights with 3/4 of the people you're trying to influence). But almost everyone is familiar with a situation where they did something that was all "principled" and turned out to just be shooting themselves in the foot (even though they really hate to ever admit to anyone). This kind of reminder can flip votes at the last minute in the voting booth when they stare at that ballot.

Anyway, that's my experience in how to move a few votes in crucial states toward making a difference in the elections. But don't get your blood pressure up too much over it. Democracy is never tidy. And the voters are crazy. Seriously crazy.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-10   10:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#32) (Edited)

Open borders principles?

I was thinking more of herbs.     : )

You know, the pot vote may swing Colorado's vote this year. Don't laugh. I'm serious.

Did I mention that the voters are crazy?

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-10   10:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: TooConservative (#34)

I live in Ohio as I'm pretty sure you are aware of.

I'll vote for Romney and hope for the best. My hopes aren't up for a dramatic turnaround. I do expect his to have a few positive effects though. Just him being elected will help the economy even if it is only temporarily.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-06-10   10:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#6)

Any other year I would risk a third party vote. But Obama is so bad he has to go.

I have heard that, from one side or the other, for the majority of my life.

It's a scam. And look at what it's done to our country and the point that it's brought us to.

It doesn't matter if you vote for Romney or Obama, because the agenda, and the direction this country is moving, will remain the same either way.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-10   10:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Mad Dog (#28)

The simple fact is that any vote in the national election for anybody but "mittens" is actually a vote FOR the messiah "king" obammy.

Bullshit.

Still bullshit even after being repeated 10,000 times.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-10   13:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Mad Dog (#28)

THIS is the choice OUR Lord has given us.

Oh holy shit!

Now GOD wants us to vote for either Romney or Obama?

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-10   13:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Mad Dog (#28)

There is NO NEXT TIME when it comes to national presidential elections. FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS INSANE AMERICA HATING MONSTER WILL DESTROY THIS NATION.

Voters have heard this in every presidential election, from one side or the other, as long as I've been alive.

You vote for whomever you'd like, and I'll do the same.

Fuck that propaganda guilt trip. It's been snowing American citizens into eating a shit sandwich every 4 years, for years now, and look at where it's brought us.

YOU support and vote for Mitt, and when he loses to Obama, it will lie squarely on the shoulders of your ilk who keep running a shit sandwich and repeating the lie that we HAVE to vote for him or we'll die.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-10   13:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#36)

I live in Ohio as I'm pretty sure you are aware of.

Nope. But obviously, you are one of the people I would tell to think hard before casting a "principled" third-party vote. If Obama wins Ohio, history says he gets 4 more years to destroy this country and possibly a chance to remake the Court for decades to come.

If you lived in UT or WY or NY or CA, I wouldn't waste the keystrokes.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-10   13:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: We The People (#40)

You vote for whomever you'd like, and I'll do the same.

Do you live in any of the eight battleground states for 2012? Especially in OH or FL?

If not, you can vote for Captain Kangaroo. Won't matter except in the popular vote.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-10   13:54:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: TooConservative (#42)

Do you live in any of the eight battleground states for 2012? Especially in OH or FL?

There was a time when I would publish my name and address, and I have done so.

But, there are some weird people out there and I'd rather not have to Zimmy someone.

If not, you can vote for Captain Kangaroo. Won't matter except in the popular vote.

It wouldn't matter anyway. Either Obama or Romney is going to inhabit the White House for the next 4 years, and the leftist march will continue. You know it as well as I do.

But...I'll be here for 2016, and we'll see.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-10   14:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: We The People (#38)

The simple fact is that any vote in the national election for anybody but "mittens" is actually a vote FOR the messiah "king" obammy.

Bullshit.

Still bullshit even after being repeated 10,000 times.

No it certainly is NOT bullshit.

And you have to be a FOOL to believe that it is.

What percentage of the popular vote did the wee willy de slick meister "win" the presidency with you F'ing TARD?

39% is how much TARD.

NO third party candidate for NATIONAL office has ANY chance to WIN.

It's SIMPLE MATH you gibbering FOOL.

I understand that you don't like this FACT, but it IS FACT NONETHELESS.

Why do you act like such a FOOL?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-10   15:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: We The People (#39)

.

I don't know what GOD wants, do YOU?

BUT the only choice AMERICANS will have in November will be the messiah "king" obammy or "mittens".

Who runs this world FOOL?

The Bilgedeburgers or GOD?

That post wasn't worthy of the person I thought that you were. I figured even though we deeply disagree on many important things I thought you were at least sane and honest.

Turns out when it comes to your wee failed savior this is not the case?

Bummer.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-10   15:39:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: We The People (#40)

There is NO NEXT TIME when it comes to national presidential elections. FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS INSANE AMERICA HATING MONSTER WILL DESTROY THIS NATION. Voters have heard this in every presidential election, from one side or the other, as long as I've been alive.

You vote for whomever you'd like, and I'll do the same.

Fuck that propaganda guilt trip. It's been snowing American citizens into eating a shit sandwich every 4 years, for years now, and look at where it's brought us.

YOU support and vote for Mitt, and when he loses to Obama, it will lie squarely on the shoulders of your ilk who keep running a shit sandwich and repeating the lie that we HAVE to vote for him or we'll die.

You can't possibly be arguing that THIS presidential election is just another business as usual election?

That there is no substantial or IMPORTANT difference between THIS election and EVERY election ever held in the USA?

I don't much give a FUCK what FOOLS such as you say or do, and you show the world that you are indeed a FOOL if you even TRY to claim there is ANYTHING "normal" about this coming election. Which you do here FOOL.

Maybe FOOL, you should ask yourself why you are so SENSITIVE about the TRUTH BEING TOLD how a vote for anybody but "mittens' is effectively a VOTE FOR THE MESSIAH "king"?

Because YOU KNOW IT IS TRUE, but you haven't got the stones to do what MUST be done for AMERICA.

I've NEVER told anybody what or who to vote for, have I asshole?

I'm just stating the SIMPLE OBJECTIVE TRUTH ABOUT THOSE VOTES.

When you vote for the messiah "king" obammy through his 3rd party proxie, you'll be able to pose and strut how you didn't vote for EITHER of them !

And that's what this is all about to pinheads like you isn't it?

There will be WAR if the messiah "king" obammy is "re"-elected. I guess that's what poser FOOLS such as you want?

When did people such as you turn into such stooopid simpering selfish cunts?

I will get no joy reminding you and your ilk whose fault it really is that the messiah "king" was "re"- elected.

YOURS, fool.

Pitiful.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-10   15:53:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: We The People (#38)

md; The simple fact is that any vote in the national election for anybody but "mittens" is actually a vote FOR the messiah "king" obammy.

wp; Bullshit.

Still bullshit even after being repeated 10,000 times.

Are you FUCKING insane or just fucking STOOOOOOPID?

You said the above, then, in the next fucking breath you say,

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"#43. To: TooConservative (#42)

Do you live in any of the eight battleground states for 2012? Especially in OH or FL? There was a time when I would publish my name and address, and I have done so.

But, there are some weird people out there and I'd rather not have to Zimmy someone.

If not, you can vote for Captain Kangaroo. Won't matter except in the popular vote.

It wouldn't matter anyway. Either Obama or Romney is going to inhabit the White House for the next 4 years, and the leftist march will continue. You know it as well as I do.

But...I'll be here for 2016, and we'll see."

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You are REALLY acting like a stupid libTURD asshole here.

Or maybe you are just another HYPOCRITE?

PITIFUL.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-10   16:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: We The People (#43)

There was a time when I would publish my name and address, and I have done so.

Bad idea. I usually don't even post my state but I have posted enough that I have no doubt it could be deduced if someone was interested enough.

Anyway, it sounds like you aren't in a battleground state either.

Tooconservative  posted on  2012-06-10   18:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Mad Dog (#46)

I will get no joy reminding you and your ilk whose fault it really is

You could also remind me that I have Volkswagons for feet, but just because some idiotic thought manages to swim the vodka river between your synapses doesn't make it true.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-11   17:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Mad Dog (#49)

You could also remind me that I have Volkswagons for feet, but just because some idiotic thought manages to swim the vodka river between your synapses doesn't make it true.

Oh come on!

That's hilarious!

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-11   19:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: We The People (#50)

We is interesting to me is that the US government has no control on the parties at all; yet, the only the two major political party's have a neck-hold on the US government and all third party's.

This thread is for charlatans that can't see how they are abused by the hidden hands of the unnamed.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-11   20:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: buckeroo (#51)

This thread is for charlatans that can't see how they are abused by the hidden hands of the unnamed.

Au contraire mon ami. It's for you.

Now dance, puppet.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-11   20:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: harrowup (#52)

Why don't you go suck one of your goat's utters?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-11   20:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: harrowup (#52)

Au contraire mon ami.

The language of your own country is not good enough for you?

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-11   20:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: harrowup (#52)

Now dance, puppet.

It's really a shame that the owner of the forum won't allow you to use the death of other posters friends as ammo against them anymore. Isn't it.

I'd bet you'd like to use that again sometime.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-11   20:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: We The People (#49)

I will get no joy reminding you and your ilk whose fault it really is

You could also remind me that I have Volkswagons for feet, but just because some idiotic thought manages to swim the vodka river between your synapses doesn't make it true.

I don't give a fuck what you say to TRY to DENY a KNOWN and basic POLITICAL SCIENCE FACT.

That FACT is that NO THIRD PARTY HAS A CHANCE IN HELL OF WINNING A US NATIONAL ELECTION.

That ANY vote for any other person than the two lamestream partee candidates is a Vote FOR the one who is already in office and who unafraid to use ALL methods of vote FRAUD.

I'd run the classic example numbers for you, but you are too stupid to accept this admittedly rotten FACT.

You act as if I make this shit up, that's what the libTURDS do. I don't make up FACTS.

You act like kind of a dumb ass regarding this.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-11   20:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: We The People (#50)

.

PISS OFF.

The ONLY way anybody could ever disagree with your IGNORANCE is because they are a drunk eh fuckwad?

Yeah THAT'S real F'ing funny stuff.

Especially coming from a hypocrite who claims to be a CONSERVATIVE.

PISS OFF.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-11   20:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Mad Dog (#56)

You act like kind of a dumb ass regarding this.

And you act like it's a fact simply because YOU THINK IT IS.

Remember, you also thought that Ron Paul wanted to do away with the US military.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-11   20:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Mad Dog (#57)

PISS OFF.

The ONLY way anybody could ever disagree with your IGNORANCE is because they are a drunk eh fuckwad?

Yeah THAT'S real F'ing funny stuff.

Especially coming from a hypocrite who claims to be a CONSERVATIVE.

PISS OFF.

I had hoped that you'd see the humor in that statement and that you would laugh. I had hoped that you would not start bleeding from your panties because someone was talking to you like you talk to everyone else.

If you can't handle a little slap, maybe you shouldn't post. At the very least, don't get your period blood on me.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-11   20:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: We The People (#55)

It's really a shame that the owner of the forum won't allow you to use the death of other posters friends as ammo against them anymore. Isn't it.

I'd bet you'd like to use that again sometime.

You'll have to translate that for me and I speak many languages. I just like French in order to sound snippy. It usually enrages the peasants. It is the language of diplomats after all...you know, jack booted statist thugs in tails...

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-11   20:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Mad Dog (#57)

Especially coming from a hypocrite who claims to be a CONSERVATIVE.

PISS OFF.

He can't. He had his tube tied to prevent PE and doesn't know how to untie the knot his mother put on.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-11   20:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: We The People (#59)

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Oh really?

Do you accuse people of being drunks for fun where you live? I'm not talking about myself in specific, I'm talking about ALL people.

kinda like accusing folks of being child molesters eh!

HO HO HO, nothing funnier than drunks and child molesters eh dimbulb?

Bleeding from your panties LOL!

Were we talking about YOUR "sex" life?

I missed that dim bulb.

But HEY! it's ALL really REALLY FUNNY isn't it dim bulb?

PITIFUL

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-11   21:02:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Mad Dog, harrowup (#61)

Especially coming from a hypocrite who claims to be a CONSERVATIVE.

PISS OFF.

Now look! The Democrat is siding with...........YOU! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. LOL!

He can't. He had his tube tied to prevent PE and doesn't know how to untie the knot his mother put on.

OK, while most of your posts are lame as hell, that one was just damned funny! Good one.

But I still hate you.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-11   21:03:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: We The People (#63)

But I still hate you.

Hate is such a strong word for a fellow who gets a laugh out of Poopdick.

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-11   21:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: We The People, harrowup, ALL (#63)

Now look! The Democrat is siding with...........YOU! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. LOL!

So F'ing WHAT?

What actual AMERICAN even thinks that way?

What part of, E PLURIBUS UNUM don't you get?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-11   21:12:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Mad Dog (#62)

But HEY! it's ALL really REALLY FUNNY isn't it dim bulb?

Yes, it is.

Unless you're drunk or something.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-11   21:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: harrowup (#64)

Hate is such a strong word for a fellow who gets a laugh out of Poopdick.

Yeah, I know. Poopdick isn't really that funny.

But... "You could also remind me that I have Volkswagons for feet, but just because some idiotic thought manages to swim the vodka river between your synapses doesn't make it true."

Now that is funny as hell!

Say it!

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-11   21:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: We The People (#67)

Now that is funny as hell!

Say it!

Stewie, is that you?

harrowup  posted on  2012-06-11   22:02:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Mad Dog (#65)

What part of, E PLURIBUS UNUM don't you get?

You are worried about a national seal that the two-major political parties trashed since WW2?

Dawg, go find a fire hydrant in Alaska.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-06-11   22:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Mad Dog (#65)

What part of, E PLURIBUS UNUM don't you get?

"E Pluribus Unum" was the motto proposed for the first Great Seal of the United States by John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson in 1776. A latin phrase meaning "One from many," the phrase offered a strong statement of the American determination to form a single nation from a collection of states.

Over the years,

"E Pluribus Unum" has also served as a reminder of America's bold attempt to make one unified nation of people from many different backgrounds and beliefs."

I disagree with the last paragraph. The only thing that matters to anyone who comes to the United Stated of America, is that they hold her Constitution as the LAW of the land. It has nothing to do with culture or background, it has only to do with maintaining that people who come here not only except that law which is based on individual freedom and limited Government and defined by our Constitution.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-11   22:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: harrowup (#68)

Stewie, is that you?

I don't get it.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-11   22:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: All (#70)

....Not only accept it but embrace and defend it.

SJN  posted on  2012-06-11   22:32:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: We The People (#66)

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So I guess you are usually three sheets to the breeze and cranking HEAVY as you cruise the boulevard looking for a date with a pretty teen aged boy? afterall it's been two weeks since you ate the last one and made a soup with his bones!

Ha HA HA FUNNY STUFF! /S

I really see YOUR point dude. /S

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-12   0:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: SJN (#70)

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One POLITICALLY unified nation.

Of course everybody is different. in their origins.

The goal of ALL AMERICANS was to create a unique AMERICAN culture that improved on those which had failed during history.

All any of this ever promised all citizens was POLITICAL EQUALITY.

That each citizen stood the same before the LAW.

That ALL Governmental power came from the PEOPLE and the several STATES.

It's a hopeless dream of course, all of us being HUMANS and all.

But it sure as heck is a GREAT goal.

There is a unique AMERICAN culture and it's a GOOD system worth defending and supporting.

We the PEOPLE are it's culture.

PIZZA is AMERICAN.

So is "Fusion cooking".

...

E PLURIBUS UNUM!

What a concept!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-12   0:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Mad Dog (#73)

So I guess you are usually three sheets to the breeze and cranking HEAVY as you cruise the boulevard looking for a date with a pretty teen aged boy? afterall it's been two weeks since you ate the last one and made a soup with his bones!

Ha HA HA FUNNY STUFF! /S

I really see YOUR point dude. /S

That's just weird.

How does one make soup with bones?

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-12   7:28:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: We The People (#75)

md; So I guess you are usually three sheets to the breeze and cranking HEAVY as you cruise the boulevard looking for a date with a pretty teen aged boy? afterall it's been two weeks since you ate the last one and made a soup with his bones!

Ha HA HA FUNNY STUFF! /S

I really see YOUR point dude. /S

wp; That's just weird.

How does one make soup with bones?

wp; That's just weird.

md; When you use a stupid argument to it's logical end it is often "weird". It's called "reducto ad absurdum". It shows how stupid your original assertions were, it makes YOU look kind of stupid doesn't it?

wp; How does one make soup with bones?

md; THAT is just stupid. Sort of like asking how do you boil water?

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-12   13:06:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Mad Dog (#76)

It shows how stupid your original assertions were, it makes YOU look kind of stupid doesn't it?

I guess it's a matter of perception.

You keep stating, time after time, how stupid this conversation is making me look. I submit that as skewed as your perception is, I'm probably looking like a scholar right now.

In fact, I could say the dumbest things in the world, and still look like a rocket scientist in a conversation with you. ;o)

Now, lighten up Francis.

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-12   17:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: We The People (#77)

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No dim bulb this has nothing to do with perception, it has to do with FACTS.

YOU look stupid because you are.

Too bad YOUR problem is that POLITICAL SCIENCE has defined and used this FACT for many years.

IF I thought that you had the intellectual honesty to accept this FACT I'd have taken the time to provide you citations. But since you are NOT intellectually honest, and an asshole fuck off.

Keep proving what a slack jawed, cult of personality, mediocre mind you have and are.

LOL!

Truth be told, you crack me up by constantly repeating your invincible stupidity.

LOL!

Good Stuff!

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

("light" enough bitch?)

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-12   18:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Mad Dog (#78)

Geez man, what time do you start drinking?

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-12   18:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: We The People (#79)

.

Geeze asswipe are you still beating your wife?

How's his family feel about that?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-12   18:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Mad Dog (#80)

Geeze asswipe are you still beating your wife?

How's his family feel about that?

Yes.

I beat them too.

You wanna be next?

some text

"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772

We The People  posted on  2012-06-12   18:16:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: We The People (#81)

Yes.

I beat them too.

You wanna be next?

So then you were drunk as usual right?

Next at what?

Beating your husband and his family?

I don't have anything against them.

WoW you're "tough". /NOT!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-06-12   19:08:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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