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Title: Rand Paul Endorses Mitt Romney
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URL Source: http://atr.rollcall.com/rand-paul-endoses-mitt-romney/
Published: Jun 7, 2012
Author: By Ryan Teague Beckwith and Joshua Mille
Post Date: 2012-06-08 07:38:21 by We The People
Keywords: None
Views: 43678
Comments: 72
(Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call File Photo) Updated: 11:02 p.m.| Presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney said this afternoon that he is “honored” to be endorsed by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.). Paul’s father, Rep. Ron Paul (Texas), had run for the Republican presidential nomination against Romney in 2008 and this election cycle, but he essentially conceded the race in an email to supporters today. “When it is all said and done, we will likely have as many as 500 supporters as delegates on the convention floor,” he wrote, according to the Houston Chronicle. “That is just over 20 percent! And while this total is not enough to win the nomination, it puts us in a tremendous position to grow our movement and shape the future of the GOP!” In response to Sen. Paul’s endorsement, Romney praised his record. “Sen. Paul has been a leading voice in the effort to scale back the size and reach of government and promote liberty,” he said, adding that he looks forward to “working with him to get America back on the right track.” Sen. Paul, himself, is widely thought to harbor ambitions for higher office. “The assumption throughout the political community in Kentucky is that he’s a one-term Senator who is running for president in 2016,” said a Republican consultant deeply familiar with Kentucky.
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#33. To: Ferret Mike (#26)
Obama isn't a christian. Quit pretending he is. He is a liar. He just said that because if he admitted he was a muslim he wouldn't have won. Muslims are liars their toilet paper book the Koran tells them to be liars. Just like wiccans. Your father is the devil father of lies and murders.
That is a valid criticism of my position. Here is how I deal with it. Obama is surely for abortion. Romney might or might not be. I hope he lives up to being against it. If he doesn't he wont get my vote twice. I guess I am not perfect and you can call me a bit of a hypocrite on this one. Just keeping it honest.
When you put certain things in your body you don't act the same. You can kill people when you use certain substances. You can support crack for 8 year olds. I don't and never will.
I agree Eric....it has been bitter-sweet. I was pretty involved in politics at one time and I thought "if only people knew", it would change. Some people not only don't "want to know", they get angry if you try to wake them from their slumber. GOD gives us the love of the truth and I firmly believe there are many that are blinded from the reality around us. Keep the faith "my friend in freedom", the truth you speak is from the ages, as history has shown us over and over again. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. You are a Patrick Henry of our times... “We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.” — Patrick Henry, Virginia Convention, March 23, 1775
Killing someone IS a crime and a violation of someones most basic rights...the right to life. I don't, and never will, support crack for 8 years old...but I'm not 8, and I don't need government telling me what I can do with the body GOD gave ME...it's mine, not the governments. I'm sure, when the time comes, for government wanting to "chip" their property, you'll apparently be first in line.
Another straw-man argument. Aren't you a little old for these childish games?
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
If, for the sake of discussion, mcRomney had been consistent on ANY ISSUE, you'd have a point. But the guy talks out of both sides of his mouth. THAT is what he's consistent on.... So instead, I look at who his backers are. An old Russian expression: Tell me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who YOU are. And in that light, it boils down to "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." Go ahead, Stone... PROVE me wrong. I double-dog dare ya.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
Making crack and Heroin illegal is not anything close to the mark of the Beast which I will never receive. The mark is an allegience to the antichrist. Satan is for Heroin beling legal. Think about that. Bath Salts make you eat human beings. It makes you insane. I guess that is a right you have according to you. I appreciate your argument and I know where you are coming from. I have some of the same sentiments and I have made some of the same arguments in the past. I posted lots of articles critical of Romeny. I have even considered and still consider not voting for him. I don't like him. But I HATE Obama. What are you going to do in a few years when Obama owns the supreme court and he never leaves? Are you going to think back and wonder if it might have been different if we took a different path. I know you think the paths are the same. But they are not. They will vote differently on lots of different things. They will put different people on the Supreme court. They are two very different paths. Especially for domestic issues. So I am not your enemy. I respect your thinking that goes into your position. But I have kids. Maybe you do too. If Obama go re elected and I didnt do what I could to get rid of that parasite. I think I would regret it. If Obama gets re elected you will wonder too.
You are afraid to answer because it will show you to be a hypocrite. You say we own our bodies and the government telling us what to do is evil and tryanny. Then when I bring up 8 year olds you backtrack and wont answer. I just proved your "logic" is flawed. You're a good person and I consider you largely on the same side as me. We just disagree on the tactics to get us where we want our country to be.
But the guy talks out of both sides of his mouth. THAT is what he's consistent on.... I can't argue with that. But again he can only tie Obama. He can't be worse. He could be better. I'll roll those dice because the road we are on is surely the road to hell.
So why do you want a drug that makes you insane and possibly a killer to be legal. You are not in control of yourself when you do things like that.
The mark is an allegience to the antichrist. Satan is for Heroin beling legal. Think about that. Really? How the HELL do you pull a whopper that big out of your ass???? You're delusional.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
SURE he can. And despite the fact that he sucks so bad, you have decided to pimp for him, eh? Doesn't say much for you, Stone... Because he'll give cover to the globalist elitists who are really running the show. which means they'll get more time. I don't want them to have any more cover, any more time, than they already have. Oh, and I notice you neglected to address my point, with regard to the backers of BOTH candidates. Purely coincidence, right? (((cough, cough)))
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
Hardly. You want to debate an issue? Fine. Start playing debate-tactic games on me, then be ready to be smacked upside the head when you get caught. This latest one is called "begging the question." You've moved up to college-level tactics... but that's all they are; nothing more. You're looking more and more desperate. Thanks for the laughs.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
That should be self-evident, even to you. Look up the principle called "Federalism," Stone. You've got a LOT of catching-up to do. I'm done with this thread... you really don't understand the concepts being discussed, you don't give a shit to educate yourself, and so you come to the arena of ideas with... nothing. And now I'm bored with you... A first time, and hopefully you'll be able to converse more intelligently next time around. So I bid you adieu. Next thread.....
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
A great book. As I recall you had to serve a hitch in the military to become a citizen and have voting rights.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
1) Making crack and Heroin illegal is not anything close to the mark of the Beast which I will never receive.......A government that is large enough to force you NOT to do something is large enough to force you TO do something...you apparently like the force of government. 2) The mark is an allegience to the antichrist. Satan is for Heroin beling legal. Think about that......yes it is and he will come riding into power on the world government that the "globalist", TPTB and Romney, you are in full support of. Please tell me GOD said "turn to government" for your problems......no, Satan is going to use the power that you "statist" give him, to slaughter millions. 3) Bath Salts make you eat human beings. It makes you insane. I guess that is a right you have according to you.... yes, you have that right. You also have the right and responsibility to shot someone eating on your face. YOUR safety is YOUR responsibility..... there ARE crazy people out there. Freedom and responsibility for yourself go hand in hand. 4) I know you think the paths are the same. But they are not. They will vote differently on lots of different things. They will put different people on the Supreme court. They are two very different paths...... No he won't.....the same globalists that own and control the Kenyan, own and control Romney...it's to bad you don't see this. Our responsibility is to do "right", the outcome is GODS...Romney is a tool of some very evil people...and a liar. My GOD says liars are the tools of Satan...why would you support a liar? 5) But I have kids. Maybe you do too. If Obama go re elected and I didnt do what I could to get rid of that parasite. I think I would regret it. If Obama gets re elected you will wonder too..... No, I won't, the globalist plan will move forward just as GOD has told us...I just won't support it, apparently you will.
there are thousands of substances out there that can make you crazy, alcohol is a GREAT example. Blaming the drug is like blaming the gun...YOU are responsible for YOUR actions... not some drug or some gun. If you attack someone whether you are on drugs are not...you deserve to be put down. It's called responsibility...for your actions and accepting the consequences for those actions.
I'm really enjoying your posts.
"If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave." Samuel Adams, Rights of the Colonists, 1772
That should be self-evident, even to you. I thought God owned our bodies.
You see, Stone is actually OK with the police-state telling you what you can't do with your body. Yeah. I don't think you should be able to stick surgical instruments up your body to kill your baby. If you put a subtance in your body that changes you to such a degree that you are a danger to society. It should be illegal. I would include heroin and crack in that category.
That person has crossed the line and is killing another. If she just wanted to kill herself with drugs, it's no one's business. If she does drugs while pregnant, lock her up to protect the baby.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
Thank you...
if, in fact you are a danger to society, your ACTIONS should be judged, NOT what you put in YOUR body. What part of this are you NOT grasping...
EXACTLY...great post Hondo, another freedom fighter!!!
Putting a substance in your body that makes you crazy is an action. Do you believe in God? What did he say about the last days and pharmakia?
Just so you know, there have been moments in Stone's real life where he wanders back from a rooftop job that he fell off of, and discusses the evil of the Magna Carta. His sometimes rants are because he may still be dizzy.
that statement is so ignorant it ALMOST negates a response. That's like saying putting a gun in someones hand makes them a murderer...I've got news for you Stone...the world IS FULL of things that can be mind altering. Do you want to make stiffing glue punishable by death. Almost ALL the whack jobs that have unloaded on kids in schools have been taking doctor prescribed, legal drugs. Freedom means there can be NO crime unless there is a VICTIM...That's what the founders intended. Prostitution, drugs and duelling were ALL legal activities at one point because they were actions by consenting adults...seems this country did just fine for centuries without your global overseers.
Stone talks about GOD, but puts all his faith in Government (man) and liars to boot. GOD tells us a double minded man is unstable in ALL his ways...just saying.
Not even close. It is like saying if you drink a beer and you end up getting in a car you should have known better, it is no exescuse.
Thanks for the softball. No.
That is nutty.
I have no faith in government. Romney will just be a little better most likely. If the paths are the same what do you care?
Any sin against our body and soul does not make us compatible to God. Since there isn't a soul on earth that is compatible to God. (Sin free). We have Christ, who was perfect.
so you put your faith in a lying pagan...why? Their globalist paths are the same. When I stand before my maker, I don't think "he was the lesser of two evils" will be an adequate response to my, nailed on the cross, savior.
So you are a "works" "christian"?
absolutely not, I didn't earn salvation and don't deserve it, but on the same token I'll not spit in my saviors face by supporting a lying pagan...I have a choice.
Fair enough. Just out of curiousity do you mind sharing past presidential votes. Some people may know but I don't. Here are mine. Bush Perot Dole Bush Peroutka Palin
Voted for GWH Bush the first term...then he lied. I voted Buchannan when he ran...I had dinner with the man and he seemed sincere. I'm a Goldwater republican if that helps...I lost the party label quite a while ago when I realized BOTH parties where taking us down the road to global government. I used to be a died in the wool republican...even partied with Hannity on several occasions...no more. I decided I loved my country far more than I loved government. Freedom may not be perfect but it beats giving unlimited power to corrupt politicians. You have a good site Stone, I appreciate a place where honest opinions can be shared without all the rancor. Thank you.
Bizarre, that he cannot see his own hypocrisy. Just.... bizarre.
"Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all." Michael Rivero
And you are voting against a Christian and for a Mormon who believes Christ and Satan were feuding brothers.
#34. To: Ferret Mike (#27)
But with Romney, it's OK if he was a public servant who preserved and protected a policy that ended the lives of babies in Massachusetts.
#35. To: freedomsnotfree (#24)
My GOD is Yahweh, my savior is Jesus, the christ... yours, apparently, is government. Your body may belong to the state...mine does not.
#36. To: Capitalist Eric (#29)
Learning the truth has been bitter-sweet...
#37. To: A K A Stone (#35)
You can kill people when you use certain substances. You can support crack for 8 year olds. I don't and never will.
#38. To: A K A Stone (#30)
Answer the question. Should it be legal. I said if the parents consent.
#39. To: A K A Stone (#31)
You said they are identical. Meaning they will case every vote the same 100 percent of the time. You are insane if you think that. If you don't think that you just conceded my point.
#40. To: freedomsnotfree (#37)
don't, and never will, support crack for 8 years old...but I'm not 8, and I don't need government telling me what I can do with the body GOD gave ME...it's mine, not the governments. I'm sure, when the time comes, for government wanting to "chip" their property, you'll apparently be first in line.
#41. To: Capitalist Eric (#38)
Aren't you a little old for these childish games?
#42. To: Capitalist Eric (#39)
If, for the sake of discussion, mcRomney had been consistent on ANY ISSUE, you'd have a point.
#43. To: freedomsnotfree (#37)
Killing someone IS a crime and a violation of someones most basic rights..
#44. To: A K A Stone (#40)
Making crack and Heroin illegal is not anything close to the mark of the Beast which I will never receive.
#45. To: A K A Stone (#42)
But again he can only tie Obama.
He can't be worse.
SURE HE CAN.
#46. To: A K A Stone (#41)
(Edited)
Capitalist Eric: Aren't you a little old for these childish games?
Stone: You are afraid to answer because it will show you to be a hypocrite.
#47. To: A K A Stone (#41)
You say we own our bodies and the government telling us what to do is evil and tryanny.
#48. To: Capitalist Eric, A K A Stone (#16)
A citizen accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic, of which he is a member, defending it, if need be, with his life. The civilian does not. -- Starship Troopers --
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#49. To: A K A Stone (#40)
#50. To: A K A Stone (#43)
So why do you want a drug that makes you insane and possibly a killer to be legal. You are not in control of yourself when you do things like that.
#51. To: freedomsnotfree (#50)
there are thousands of substances out there that can make you crazy, alcohol is a GREAT example. Blaming the drug is like blaming the gun...YOU are responsible for YOUR actions... not some drug or some gun. If you attack someone whether you are on drugs are not...you deserve to be put down. It's called responsibility...for your actions and accepting the consequences for those actions.
#52. To: Capitalist Eric (#47)
You say we own our bodies and the government telling us what to do is evil and tryanny.
#53. To: Capitalist Eric (#18)
BINGO.
#54. To: A K A Stone (#53)
I don't think you should be able to stick surgical instruments up your body to kill your baby.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#55. To: We The People (#51)
#56. To: A K A Stone (#53)
If you put a subtance in your body that changes you to such a degree that you are a danger to society. It should be illegal
#57. To: hondo68 (#54)
That person has crossed the line and is killing another. If she just wanted to kill herself with drugs, it's no one's business. If she does drugs while pregnant, lock her up to protect the baby.
#58. To: freedomsnotfree, SJN (#56)
if, in fact you are a danger to society, your ACTIONS should be judged, NOT what you put in YOUR body. What part of this are you NOT grasping...
#59. To: freedomsnotfree (#56)
#60. To: A K A Stone (#58)
Putting a substance in your body that makes you crazy is an action.
#61. To: buckeroo, AKA stone (#59)
#62. To: freedomsnotfree (#60)
that statement is so ignorant it ALMOST negates a response. That's like saying putting a gun in someones hand makes them a murderer..
#63. To: freedomsnotfree (#60)
Do you want to make stiffing glue punishable by death.
#64. To: freedomsnotfree (#60)
your global overseers.
#65. To: freedomsnotfree (#61)
Stone talks about GOD, but puts all his faith in Government (man) and liars to boot. GOD tells us a double minded man is unstable in ALL his ways...just saying.
#66. To: A K A Stone (#53)
#67. To: A K A Stone (#65)
I have no faith in government. Romney will just be a little better most likely.
#68. To: freedomsnotfree (#67)
I don't think "he was the lesser of two evils" will be an adequate response to my, nailed on the cross, savior.
#69. To: A K A Stone (#68)
#70. To: freedomsnotfree (#69)
#71. To: A K A Stone (#70)
#72. To: freedomsnotfree (#67)
A K A Stone: I have no faith in government. Romney will just be a little better most likely.
freedomsnotfree: so you put your faith in a lying pagan...why? Their globalist paths are the same.
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