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Title: Cops gun down man for legally carrying firearm
Source: wnd.com
URL Source: http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/cops-gun ... g-firearm/?cat_orig=diversions
Published: Jun 2, 2012
Author: Jeff Knox
Post Date: 2012-06-02 09:21:26 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 2624
Comments: 10

Cops gun down man for legally carrying firearm

by Jeff Knox

Erik Scott was a West Point graduate who went on to serve honorably in the Army, get his MBA from Duke and establish a lucrative career in real estate and as a sales rep for a medical device company. He was 38 years old when he was gunned down in portico of a Las Vegas area Costco store by officers from the Las Vegas Metro Police Department. While it was 7 bullets from the only people we’re supposed to trust with guns that snuffed out Erik Scott’s life, what really killed him was an irrational fear of firearms – hoplophobia.

Scott and his girlfriend had been shopping in the Costco, but had been asked to leave when an employee spotted Scott’s lawfully carried handgun. Scott had inadvertently exposed the gun when he squatted down to inspect some merchandise. He informed the employee that he was legally carrying the gun and was in possession of a valid Nevada concealed weapons permit, but was informed that Costco has a policy against carrying firearms in their stores.

A brief argument ensued, some raised voices and obvious frustration on Scott’s part, but witnesses said it didn’t seem like a big deal. They saw nothing particularly threatening about the incident or the clean-cut, good looking young man. The store manager who had spoken with Scott seemed satisfied by Scott’s reassurance that he was a legal firearm carrier and would be finished with his shopping in a few minutes. But a store Loss Prevention Officer called the police and reported that an armed man was behaving erratically in the store.

That report, based on irrational fear, and perhaps some personal envy, triggered events which quickly spiraled out of control. It seems that the fear factor was taken up a notch with each description of the story to the point that responding officers believed they were going into a violent hostage situation with a heavily armed and dangerous Green Beret.

Las Vegas MPD responded with a city-wide alert, street closures, helicopter support and deployment of a Mobile Command Center. The first officers on the scene arrived as Costco employees were following telephone instructions from the police to calmly evacuate the store.

As Scott and his girlfriend fell in with other patrons flowing out of the exit door, the Loss Prevention Officer who started the whole mess pointed toward Scott and a police officer at the door suddenly began yelling “Stop! I said Stop! Drop the gun! Get on the ground! Get on the ground!”

He fired these conflicting commands in quick succession giving Scott no opportunity to comply with any of them and then fired two rounds at Scott’s chest. As the officer began yelling and Scott realized he was the subject of the commands, he turned, lifting his hands, and apparently tried to follow the legal requirement to immediately inform an officer that he was an armed weapons permit holder, but he didn’t have time.

The officer’s frantic orders lasted for a slow count of 3 and were immediately followed by the two gunshots, a momentary pause, and a volley of several more shots. There was no pause or hesitation between the commands and the shots. The first round struck Erik Scott in the heart, the second hit his right thigh. As he collapsed to the ground, two other officers fired 5 more shots into his back. Numerous witnesses reported that they saw Scott turn and declare that he was a permit holder. Many said they could see both of his hands and that he made no threatening move. All agreed that the only gun they saw was the one in Scott’s waistband on his right hip.

Other witnesses reported that they saw Scott’s body removed by EMTs and saw nothing on the ground except blood and a cell phone, or sun glasses. EMTs reported that they removed Scott’s gun and holster from the waistband of his jeans in the ambulance and that they saw no other gun, yet, after police broke into Scott’s apartment and confiscated the firearms there, the story came out that Scott was carrying two guns that day.

A picture of the second gun, on the ground near a cell phone, after the blood on the pavement had been cleaned up, is the “proof” that Scott had two guns and pulled one on MPD officers. The store’s video surveillance system inexplicably malfunctioned for the several seconds of the shooting.

A coroner’s inquest concluded that the shooting was justified, just as a similar inquest had concluded that the gunning down of an unarmed, small-time pot dealer in his apartment a short time before the Scott shooting was ruled to be justified. Just as such coroner’s inquests have concluded that officer involved shootings were justified in 199 out of 200 incidents since 1976.

Erik Scott’s family has strongly contested the conclusions of the coroner’s inquest and the entire inquest process. They succeeded in getting some changes made to that process, but those changes have been held up by suits from the police union.

The Scott’s filed a wrongful death suit in federal court, but recently dropped that effort, convinced that they had no hope of winning with the system stacked against them.

Erik Scott’s father, a former Air Force flight test engineer and writer for the prestigious aerospace magazine Aviation Week & Space Technology, has painted a sympathetic, fictionalized portrait of Erik and the events of that day as part of a new novel he is offering in serialized form at ThePermit.blogspot.com in hopes of maintaining awareness of Erik’s tragic death and bringing attention to corruption within the justice system and government of Las Vegas.

The police have a difficult job. They are put in positions and asked to do things that most of us would run away from, but authority and power must be tempered with responsibility and accountability. For decades lawmakers and courts have built up walls of protection around police and other government workers. It is critical that these public servants be protected from frivolous suits and baseless harassment, but they must be held accountable for their actions and investigations into their activities must be beyond reproach. That is not the case currently.

When one person’s irrational fear of a peacefully armed man can result in that man being gunned down by police with no consequences for anyone except the victim and his friends and family, something is terribly, terribly wrong. Hoplophobia killed Erik Scott and a corrupt system allowed his accusers and executioners get away with it.


Poster Comment:

Looks like the cops are wanting the average citizen to start shooting at them whenever they roll up in their sqaud cars coffee cup in one hand, gun in the other and a doughnut jammed in their face.....

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#1. To: All (#0)

So I wonder how bad the cops are gonna schitt themselves if the "Open Carry" bill that is currently in the House passes??? They'll be cornering the market on "Depends" instead of old folk doing it....

Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one…

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-02   9:27:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: CZ82 (#0)

I want to see the cop that fired the first shots charged with and convicted of 1st degree murder,and I want the other two cops that fired shots and the store "loss prevention specialist" charges and convicted as accessories to 1st degree murder.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-02   10:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: CZ82, *Bill of Rights-Constitution*, *Crime and Corruption*, *Bang List* (#0)

ping

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

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sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-02   10:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: CZ82 (#0)

I remember this incident when it happened. When was that, about two years ago? I'll look it up.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-02   10:23:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82 (#0)

I remember this incident when it happened. When was that, about two years ago? I'll look it up.

Edit: July 10, 2010 is when the tragedy occurred.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-06-02   10:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CZ82, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0)

Dredging up this story from 2010 must be WND's way of warning us not to vote for the gun grabbers Mitt, or Obama.



Mitt Romney and Gun Control (Gun Owners of America)

“We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them,” he said during a gubernatorial debate. “I won’t chip away at them; I believe they protect us and provide for our safety.”1

Even worse, Romney signed a law to permanently ban many semi-automatic firearms. “These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense,” Romney said in 2004. “They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”2

Romney also spoke in favor of the Brady law’s five day waiting period on handguns. The Boston Herald quotes Romney saying, “I don’t think (the waiting period) will have a massive effect on crime but I think it will have a positive effect.”3

Mitt Romney doesn’t seem to understand the meaning of “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.”

And that makes it all the more troubling that Romney refuses to answer GOA’s simple candidate questionnaire. In our more than 36 years of experience, a candidate is usually hiding anti-gun views if he or she refuses to come clean in writing with specific commitments to the Second Amendment.

Today, Romney may be a favorite “Republican Establishment” candidate of the national press corps. But that is exactly what gun owners DON’T need in a new President. We need someone who will stand by true constitutional principles and protect the Second Amendment.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2012-06-02   12:32:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#6)

Even worse, Romney signed a law to permanently ban many semi-automatic firearms.

Who does he think he it,Poppy B......,uhhh,never mind.

And that makes it all the more troubling that Romney refuses to answer GOA’s simple candidate questionnaire.

He was elected to be the Governor of the People's Republic of Mass. Why is there any question about where he stands on Gun Rights?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-06-02   12:56:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#5)

remember this incident when it happened. When was that, about two years ago? I'll look it up.

Edit: July 10, 2010 is when the tragedy occurred.

I kinda sorta remember this, I don't always keep up with the news...

Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one…

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-02   15:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68 (#6)

Romney said in 2004. “They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”

I wonder if he would like to elaborate on who he thinks should be hunted down???

And I have no doubt his opinion on who they should be used on is different than the opinion of our Founding Fathers, and probably mine too for that matter!!

Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one…

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-02   16:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#6)

Today, Romney may be a favorite “Republican Establishment” candidate of the national press corps. But that is exactly what gun owners DON’T need in a new President. We need someone who will stand by true constitutional principles and protect the Second Amendment.

No truer words have ever been spoken.....

Leftardism/Liberalism: The chickenschitt way to deal with life’s problems by creating solutions to problems that don’t exist, thereby creating a problem where none existed before and then having to find a solution to that one…

CZ82  posted on  2012-06-02   16:01:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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