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Title: The Ted Nugent Draft Dodger Story
Source: Auburn Journal
URL Source: http://my.auburnjournal.com/detail/206078.html
Published: Apr 21, 2012
Author: Over_L
Post Date: 2012-04-21 21:34:43 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 33573
Comments: 68

***Warning: This article will contain some pretty ugly language and evoke some disquieting images***

Ted Nugent endorsed Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney's oldest son, Tagg, got very excited about this and posted the following via Twitter: "Ted Nugent endorsed my Dad today. Ted Nugent? How cool is that?! He joins Kid Rock as great Detroit musicians on team Mitt!"

Nugent has, of course, been the center of quite a bit of attention recently for what he said about Barack Obama and Democrats at the recent NRA convention. This has been well publicized and I won't repeat that story here.

Before Nugent's eruption at the NRA convention, candidate Mitt Romney had this to say: "It's been fun getting to know Ted Nugent."

All Mitt Romney could say when told what Nugent had said at the NRA convention was this: "Divisive language is offensive no matter what side of the political aisle it comes from. Mitt Romney believes everyone needs to be civil." How weak! How Romneyesque!

But what's interesting is that Mitt Romney sought Ted Nugent's endorsement even before the NRA convention craziness. After all, Ted Nugent is a self-confessed draft dodger. Oh, sure, he denied that he was telling the truth back in 1977 when interviewed by High Times. But his Selective Service records are consistent with what Nugent said himself.

Here is the relevant portion of the interview from the October, 1977, edition of High Times as provided by a reporter who still had a copy in his archives:

"High Times: How did you get out of the draft?

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#1. To: A K A Stone, Anti-ping to CE, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mininggold, mcgowanjm (#0)

That's the man the likely GOP nominee for president sought out for an endorsement. That's the man whose endorsement of said candidate put said candidate's oddly-named son into a public swoon. That's the man who says ugly things about people he does not agree with politically. That's the man who, when his country called, just "wasn't into it."

The big surprise is that the Army ever thought of letting this guy anywhere close to an Army base.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-21   21:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lucysmom (#1)

I briefly met his wife at some DC FReaker event circa 2004. She seemed like a really nice person and good looking too.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-21   21:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lucysmom (#0)

Is this where Nugent did a Seamus?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-21   21:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lucysmom (#1)

Ted is a whacko.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-21   22:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

I briefly met his wife at some DC FReaker event circa 2004. She seemed like a really nice person and good looking too.

What did you think of him?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-22   1:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

Ted is a whacko.

He sure seems like it.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-22   1:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Fred Mertz (#3)

Is this where Nugent did a Seamus?

That's a nice way of putting it.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-22   1:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lucysmom (#1)

What really pisses me off is that the asshole illegally shot a black bear in Alaska.

Probably out in a stream catching salmon when the moron shot him/her...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-22   7:44:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lucysmom (#5)

What did you think of him?

He didn't attend the event, she was a guest speaker.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-22   8:02:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#0)

I can't believe a woman posted this bull-shit story.

Wow bitch..when did you ever serve your country?

*spit*

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-04-22   8:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Thunderbird, war (#10)

Remember liberals supported slavery. They still support baby murder. So what do you expect from a lib. They don't support the 13th amemdnemnt (which is actually the 14th, the real 13th has been ripped up.)

Lucysmom supports involuntary servitude. The little troll war supported it too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-22   8:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#11)

Remember liberals supported slavery.

So what do you expect from a lib.

They still do and they've got their voters convinced of it too, except the voters don't realize it will be them that is enslaved "again".....

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-04-22   9:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mcgowanjm (#8)

What really pisses me off is that the asshole illegally shot a black bear in Alaska.

He illegally shot a deer in California, the deer was too young and he had no tags.

He also runs canned hunts on his ranch.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-22   9:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Thunderbird (#10)

Wow bitch..when did you ever serve your country?

*spit*

Spoken like a Ted Nugent acolyte. Are you a pedophile too?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-22   9:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#11)

They don't support the 13th amemdnemnt (which is actually the 14th, the real 13th has been ripped up.)

Wishful thinking doesn't make it so.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-22   9:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: CZ82 (#12)

Remember liberals supported slavery.

Liberals ran the underground railroad, Southern conservatives became Democrats following the Civil War because they were pissed off at the Republican president who freed their slaves (sore losers). Later, after a Democrat president signed into law legislation guaranteeing full civil rights to blacks with all the protections given to citizens, southern Democrats switched back to the Republican party cause now they are pissed off at Democrats.

Back in the days when southern Republicans were Democrats, they were known as boll weevils after the cotton crop destroying pest.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-22   9:55:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: lucysmom (#16)

Why do you oppose any American citizen deciding for himself whether or not he wants to go to war?

Do you support conscription and want government to have that power over its citizens?

Or are you just throwing this hypocritical bullshit around because THIS American citizen supports a Republican?

We The People  posted on  2012-04-22   10:09:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: We The People (#17)

Which REPUBLICAN do you support, We The People?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-04-22   10:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: buckeroo, Lucysmom (#18)

I think you already know the answer to that question.

But that isn't the issue here. The issue is... would these types of attacks come if this were a Democrat conscientious objector supporting a Democrat candidate?

I support a free man's right to decide for himself whether or not he wants to go to war, whether the man is a douchbag or not.

And I suspect Lucysmom does too, so I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of attacking him for it just because he supports a Republican.

We The People  posted on  2012-04-22   10:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: We The People (#19)

I support a free man's right to decide for himself whether or not he wants to go to war, whether the man is a douchbag or not.

So character doesn't count in your world. Gotcha.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-22   10:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: CZ82 (#12)

They still do and they've got their voters convinced of it too, except the voters don't realize it will be them that is enslaved "again".....

So liberals are also capitalists and free marketeers. What's not to like?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-22   10:54:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#20)

I support a free man's right to decide for himself whether or not he wants to go to war, whether the man is a douchbag or not.

So character doesn't count in your world. Gotcha.

See, this is a perfect example of why I tell you that I ignore most of your posts, because they make absolutely no sense.

You only prove that you have no viable argument.

We The People  posted on  2012-04-22   11:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: We The People (#19)

Ahhh .. so you do not support a REPUBLICAN at all, correct?

buckeroo  posted on  2012-04-22   11:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: We The People (#22)

See, this is a perfect example of why I tell you that I ignore most of your posts, because they make absolutely no sense.

You only prove that you have no viable argument.

LOLOL Since when do you ignore my posts?

If you like admitted pedophiles telling your party's politicos what to do, just admit it.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-22   11:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Thunderbird (#10)

I don't like Nugent, and I'm a veteran.

I'm also always legal when I hunt.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-22   11:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: We The People (#17) (Edited)

"Do you support conscription and want government to have that power over its citizens?"

I support an end to the purely volunteer military. Conscription would force the government to be more accountable about going to war.

We never should of invaded Iraq, and we should listen to Ron Paul about military involvement, we can't afford the Neo Con, project Amercan force and commit to continual war around the world game plan.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-22   11:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#23)

Ahhh .. so you do not support a REPUBLICAN at all, correct?

I didn't say that.

What are you trying to get at?

If you have a point, just make it.

We The People  posted on  2012-04-22   11:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mininggold (#24)

If you like admitted pedophiles telling your party's politicos what to do, just admit it.

Now you have to change the subject in order to even have a point?

And an absolutely ridiculous point at that?

We The People  posted on  2012-04-22   11:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#26)

I support an end to the purely volunteer military. Conscription would force the government to be more accountable about going to war.

I fully agree with you. The way the USA has played with an all volunteer military is based on nothing more than hiring a pile of reckless lamebrains that are nothing more than scoundrels to making a few bucks as opposed to loyalists towards the effort. In fact, the USA fully encourages illegal aliens to join the military forces in order to receive various benefits of citizenship to include voting.

These wars around the planet are not necessary other than political meddling and a show of "power." It is an outrage!

buckeroo  posted on  2012-04-22   11:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Ferret Mike (#26)

"Do you support conscription and want government to have that power over its citizens?"

I support an end to the purely volunteer military. Conscription would force the government to be more accountable about going to war.

I have to say, that surprises me.

We never should of invaded Iraq, and we should listen to Ron Paul about military involvement, we can't afford the Neo Con, project Amercan force and commit to continual war around the world game plan.

100% agreement here.

We The People  posted on  2012-04-22   11:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: We The People (#27)

What are you trying to get at?

The only viable candidate on the political horizon is Ron Paul and I believe you support Paul too. He is NOT a REPUBLICAN. If he were a REPUBLICAN he wouldn't be kicked around as you see the shame of the REPUBLICAN PARTY choose silly socialists for their new escapade into the presidential elections.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-04-22   11:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeroo, Ferret Mike (#31)

What are you trying to get at?

The only viable candidate on the political horizon is Ron Paul and I believe you support Paul too. He is NOT a REPUBLICAN. If he were a REPUBLICAN he wouldn't be kicked around as you see the shame of the REPUBLICAN PARTY choose silly socialists for their new escapade into the presidential elections.

The only viable candidate for me right now is Ron Paul.

Unfortunately, he is not viable to the leftist RNC and the lemmings willing to follow it.

We do agree here if I read your post correctly. But that's no surprise, we have agreed on many issues in the past.

I'm at a loss though at the voices chiming in here in support of conscription. I cannot agree on ceding the personal freedom to decide whether or not to go to war and transferring that to government. I also fail to see how ceding that power to government would make it more accountable.

We The People  posted on  2012-04-22   12:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeroo (#31) (Edited)

The only viable candidate on the political horizon is Ron Paul and I believe you support Paul too. He is NOT a REPUBLICAN. If he were a REPUBLICAN he wouldn't be kicked around as you see the shame of the REPUBLICAN PARTY choose silly socialists for their new escapade into the presidential elections.

I care don't for his take on those collectives called corporations that are given their very existence by governments, having the same rights of free speech as living, breathing, individual citizens given those rights by God.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-22   12:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ferret Mike (#26)

We never should of invaded Iraq

I'll go even one further.

If I had known that my governments plan in Afghanistan was to engage in endless nation building I wouldn't have supported that mission either.

I wanted our forces to decimate the Taliban and al Qaeda and come home.

We The People  posted on  2012-04-22   12:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: We The People (#32)

I've been donating money and time to Dr. Paul and I am disappointed more people don't see what good sense he makes.

From the looks of things, I won't be voting in the presidential race this year. Obama fooled me once, but this won't happen again.

And Mitt is just the Republican power elite's new errand boy and I am tired of GOP tools too.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-22   12:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike (#35)

We're in the same boat.

I can't vote for either but I feel a duty to vote.

What's a guy to do? I've considered Goode, but not sure I can vote for him either.

What do you do if there simply isn't a candidate that a man can vote for in good conscience?

Maybe this is why the majority doesn't vote at all.

We The People  posted on  2012-04-22   12:21:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: We The People (#34) (Edited)

"If I had known that my governments plan in Afghanistan was to engage in endless nation building I wouldn't have supported that mission either."

I went back in the Army intending to stay in for 20. Going to Panama was eye opening for me.

I was able to get out after my change of heart easier then most as I was a National Guardsman attached to an active army component and was at the point one gets to with an MOS the component the Army is critically short in where I was to decide to go laterally back into RA status and bite the bullet for the temporary cut in pay grade which is the worst part of that particular rite of passage, or I was to go back to my Special Forces National Guard unit to resume being a part timer.

Looking back, I am at peace with myself for what I feel was the right decision to make.

I don't think going to more wars was a sane thing to do. Going into the civilian contractor game would of made me good money, but I am not the sort of man who just does things based on how much cash it will get me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-22   12:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike (#35)

I've been donating money and time to Dr. Paul and I am disappointed more people don't see what good sense he makes.

To me the deal breaker for Ron Paul is his support of the Citizen's United decision. I love his foreign policy stance but since he wants to allow corporations even more power I don't see how he will prevail, especially when making war toys is so profitable.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-22   12:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mininggold (#38)

To me the deal breaker for Ron Paul is his support of the Citizen's United decision. I love his foreign policy stance but since he wants to allow corporations even more power I don't see how he will prevail, especially when making war toys is so profitable.

That does it for me too.

Congress has the power to declare war - does the president have to agree?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-22   13:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: lucysmom (#39)

Congress has the power to declare war - does the president have to agree?

I guess they can over ride his veto if they want to.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-22   13:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: mininggold (#24)

LOLOL Since when do you ignore my posts?

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We The People  posted on  2012-04-22   13:36:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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