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Title: Fidogate: Listen To Obama Brag About Eating Dog
Source: Breitbart TV
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart- ... 09200A5F9231}&title=Fidogate-L
Published: Apr 19, 2012
Author: Bill Ayers
Post Date: 2012-04-19 22:09:20 by hondo68
Keywords: Roasted Grasshopper, dog meat, Bill Ayers dreams, beaten with bamboo switches
Views: 3689
Comments: 78

From chapter 18 of the audio book "Dreams Of My Father" as recited by the author, President Barack Obama.


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Muslims don't eat dog, Bill Ayers and Obama are lying again.

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#30. To: mcgowanjm (#28)

Careful. My dog saved my life...and I consider that to be a fairly intelligent thing for my dog to do....;}

By a stroke of luck, last night I got to enjoy my favorite Twilight Zone episode - The Hunt - again.

I'm sure you've seen it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunt_%28The_Twilight_Zone%29

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-24   9:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ferret Mike (#29)

I like dogs, and had several while growing up. They were all smart as dogs go, and I was never tempted to eat any that passed away. ;-)

I have my dog's ashes in a tin Milk Bone container with her picture pasted on front. I'll have her remains with me in my coffin when my time is up.

People say I should get another dog but I can't - maybe in the future.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-24   9:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Fred Mertz (#31)

I have my dog's ashes in a tin Milk Bone container with her picture pasted on front. I'll have her remains with me in my coffin when my time is up.

Do you really think she'd want you to be alone, without a dog to love? I don't. It seems so against the spirit of dogs.

Start to make a slow and careful search for that dog you can love like the one you lost. No hurry. It will be a healing process and a nice dog will get a good home where they'll get spoiled rotten.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-04-24   9:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: BorisY (#26)

http://www.capitolgrilling.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=7

Thanks. I took a peek. I haven't heard from him in years.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-24   9:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: TooConservative (#32)

A friend of mine adopted three nice stray dogs. I often visit him on Sundays and get my 'dog fix'.

Thanks for the advice - I've learned to never say never but for now I say no.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-24   9:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Fred Mertz (#30)

I'm sure you've seen it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunt_%28The_Twilight_Zone%29

No. But I want to see it bad now....thanx.

The reason is this:

"When Rip dives into a pond after a raccoon, Hyder jumps in after him, but only the raccoon comes up out of the water. Next morning, Hyder and Rip wake up next to the pond."

I had a trout farm. Coons love trout. One early Am, with a crescent moon, I had to dive into a pond, about 50 degrees, to save my Shephard, that had a coon riding his back.

The coon would've drowned him....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   10:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike (#29)

and I was never tempted to eat any that passed away. ;-)

But you were interested in eating them while they were alive?....;}

A dog can keep up with a two year old.

The diff comes when a child figures out that you're pointing at an object.

But nothing beats my dogs for empathy. They know exactly how I feel at all times.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   10:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mcgowanjm (#35)

No. But I want to see it bad now....thanx.

I think you'll love it. Enjoy!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-24   10:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: TooConservative, Fred Mertz (#32)

That's one lucky dog, Fred.

She'll be waitin' for ya when you show up...;}

If there ain't no dogs in heaven, I ain't goin'.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   10:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mcgowanjm (#38)

I dunno about the theology of All Dogs Go To Heaven (well, I do but don't want to argue it).

With some people, animals are not important. Look at the Xlintons who gave away poor Socks the WH cat and let Buddy the WH dog get run over after they shamelessly pandered to animal loving voters. (No, not the icky kind of dog lovers like our current prez, I mean people who actually love them, not just the taste of them.)

TooConservative  posted on  2012-04-24   10:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mcgowanjm (#28)

Careful. My dog saved my life...and I consider that to be a fairly intelligent thing for my dog to do....;}

Mine did too, more than once. And I still can't mow, weedeat or rototill by her grave, as the engine will invariably die and not restart, which happened again just yesterday.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-24   10:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: TooConservative (#39) (Edited)

I dunno about the theology of All Dogs Go To Heaven (well, I do but don't want to argue it).

I have a feeling when you die you will find the the Bible has been leading you on about lots of things. Many of those who have died and returned have reported seeing their favorite pets.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-24   10:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: mininggold (#41)

I have a feeling when you die you will find the the Bible has been leading you on about lots of things.

I have no doubt you are flooded with feelings. I just don't care.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-04-24   10:53:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: TooConservative (#18) (Edited)

The clip is not entirely accurate concerning the dinner table. Bill Ayers Obama said "Away from the dinner table" he ate grasshoppers, dog, and snake. Seems like he and Lolo were in the Kill it, and Grill it club. I wonder if the Nugent's got the idea and title for their book from reading the Ayers Obama book, Dreams from my father?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-24   10:57:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: TooConservative (#42)

I have no doubt you are flooded with feelings. I just don't care.

Not flooded with feelings just observant when with patients. And if you didn't care you wouldn't have needed to remind us of your vast level of authority on the Bible.

But it's too bad all those mere mortals who wrote down those words given directly from God couldn't keep their stories straight, heh?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-24   11:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: mcgowanjm (#36)

"The diff comes when a child figures out that you're pointing at an object."

Dogs actually are so in sync with humans they recognize the finger pointing and will look when larger brained primates not so acclimated to us will miss that meaning.

Dogs have been joined at the hip with humanity so long, what a pointed finger means has become almost intellectually known to them. I found that interesting when scientist figured that one out.

A common test of frontal lobe development is often the test of awareness that a reflection is of the observer. A dolphin one puts a paint spot on will go to a mirror nearby and look at what you did to that particular body part one painted.

Also other tests dolphins actually outdo humans in, such as the number of meaningless sounds they can repeat back in tests scoping out that capacity.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-24   11:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Ferret Mike (#45)

Dogs have been joined at the hip with humanity so long, what a pointed finger means has become almost intellectually known to them. I found that interesting when scientist figured that one out.

I saw a documentary I think on NGC where foxes were raised to be naturally tame by selectively breeding them for timidity and lack of aggression (ie: lower adrenaline levels). They were able to achieve cute cuddly foxes within a few generations. And an added plus was the different coat patterns that cropped up, with the ears drooping.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-24   11:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: mininggold (#46)

And an added plus was the different coat patterns that cropped up, with the ears drooping.

Like Poultry goes white. Egg shells thin.

Can you be too smart for your own good. We're about to find out.

You don't get something for nothing.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   11:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: mininggold (#46)

I saw a documentary I think on NGC where foxes were raised to be naturally tame...

I saw that too, it was fascinating.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-24   11:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: hondo68 (#43)

Seems like he and Lolo were in the Kill it, and Grill it club.

Lolo, although Muslim, was introducing Obama to animism, the idea that you can absorb the qualities/virtues of prey or enemies you kill by eating them. That's classic animism as even the Kenyan admits.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-04-24   11:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Ferret Mike (#45)

Dogs have been joined at the hip with humanity so long, what a pointed finger means has become almost intellectually known to them. I found that interesting when scientist figured that one out.

Very few will deny that micro-evolution and a certain amount of natural selection occurs.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-04-24   11:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: TooConservative (#49)

I remember a Korean woman telling me that eating dog meat kept one cooler in the hot summer months. That's what she thought so I wasn't about to argue with her about it.

She might have bitten me;^)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-24   11:32:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: mininggold (#44)

But it's too bad all those mere mortals who wrote down those words given directly from God couldn't keep their stories straight, heh?

I know you libs like to reassure each other that that is true when you're smoking a doob in your nude poetry-chanting circle of Gaia but that doesn't make it true.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-04-24   11:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: TooConservative (#49)

Lolo, although Muslim, was introducing Obama to animism, the idea that you can absorb the qualities/virtues of prey or enemies you kill by eating them.

Sometimes a grasshopper is just food.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-24   11:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: TooConservative (#50)

"Very few will deny that micro-evolution and a certain amount of natural selection occurs."

Well, some of us understand evolution is a constant, and dynamic force always doing what it has always done on our 4.5 billion year old planet. I don't buy the biblical version of things.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-24   11:41:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: mcgowanjm (#47)

Like Poultry goes white. Egg shells thin.

That might be another reason why foxes and bobcats seem to prefer white chickens. But they sure don't mess with our ex fighting chicken rooster, who is really just a sweety.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-24   12:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: TooConservative (#52)

I know you libs like to reassure each other that that is true when you're smoking a doob in your nude poetry-chanting circle of Gaia but that doesn't make it true.

Did Jesus give you a case of the goofies today?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-24   12:06:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Ferret Mike (#54)

Well, some of us understand evolution is a constant, and dynamic force always doing what it has always done on our 4.5 billion year old planet. I don't buy the biblical version of things.

Most conservatives seem to still be wrestling with the concept of hybrid vigor.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-24   12:13:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: mininggold (#56)

"I know you libs like to reassure each other that that is true when you're smoking a doob in your nude poetry-chanting circle of Gaia but that doesn't make it true."

I don't know; his derisive narrative of what it must be like not to believe as he does lack that insane, glassy eye shrillness some people have to their imaginary non Christian worlds, So it doesn't bother me as much as some insane things I've read in this place.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-24   12:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: mininggold (#57)

"Most conservatives seem to still be wrestling with the concept of hybrid vigor."

Mention hybrid to erica and you'd probably get a soliloquy about the evil conspiracy behind the allegedly dysfunctional Volt automobile. So be careful the context you use that word in and around whom you say it in front of.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-24   12:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Ferret Mike (#58)

I don't know; his derisive narrative of what it must be like not to believe as he does lack that insane, glassy eye shrillness some people have to their imaginary non Christian worlds, So it doesn't bother me as much as some insane things I've read in this place.

I put some clothes this week in one of those Gaia clothes/shoes give away receptacles, only because the local Goodwill said it temporarily couldn't take anymore. How did Too Conservative know?

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-24   12:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: mininggold (#60)

Stalking perhaps?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-24   13:58:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Ferret Mike (#54)

Well, some of us understand evolution is a constant, and dynamic force always doing what it has always done on our 4.5 billion year old planet. I don't buy the biblical version of things.

Evolution, if you actually understood the theory in any detail most certainly has not been "constant".

It runs in leaps and bounds, then halts.

Much more like the hare than the tortoise if that illustrates the point.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-04-24   14:06:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: mininggold (#60)

I put some clothes this week in one of those Gaia clothes/shoes give away receptacles, only because the local Goodwill said it temporarily couldn't take anymore. How did Too Conservative know?

Aha! I just knew it.

Next thing you know, it'll be the nude poetry circle for you.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-04-24   14:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Ferret Mike (#54)

Well, some of us understand evolution is a constant, and dynamic force always doing what it has always done on our 4.5 billion year old planet.

How many species are their on earth?

Take that number and multiply it by 10. That is the number of living years that have occurred in the last 10 years. Not one thing evolved into a new species. It never has and never will. It is sad you put your faith in emptiness.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-24   19:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Ferret Mike (#45)

Dogs have been joined at the hip with humanity so long, what a pointed finger means has become almost intellectually known to them.

No. They have to be taught it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-24   19:57:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: A K A Stone (#65)

"No. They have to be taught it."

No. Actually they did a fascinating study that showed the used to human culture over thousands of years dogs got it with no training in the vast majority of cases, while the larger brained, but not so used to humans species of other large apes did not get the clue what it meant.

I didn't make this shit up.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   3:09:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: A K A Stone (#64) (Edited)

"How many species are their on earth?

Take that number and multiply it by 10. That is the number of living years that have occurred in the last 10 years. Not one thing evolved into a new species. It never has and never will. It is sad you put your faith in emptiness."

I am not going to debate it with you as your erroneous view is based on subjective religious dogma, not fact.

Tell you what; you believe as you wish on this, I'll believe what I know is fact.

You have worn out my desire to argue religious matters in any way with you.

You are arrogant, love to belittle and insult, and are too full of cocky hubris.

You made it plain you hate my faith. That is your problem and your lack of consideration for others at work. Just keep that topic to yourself.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   3:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: TooConservative (#62)

Oh I do understand it in detail, and it has been continual in a consistent way, whether their have been leaps or periods of crawling along.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   3:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: A K A Stone (#65) (Edited)

Dogs Succeed While Chimps Fail at Following Finger Pointing: Chimpanzees Have Difficulty Identifying Object of Interest Based On Gestures

ScienceDaily (Feb. 8, 2012) — Dogs are better than chimps at interpreting pointing gestures, according to a study published in the online journal PLoS ONE.

Katharina Kirchhofer, of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Germany, led a team in the investigation of 20 chimps and 32 dogs presented with the same task: retrieving an object the experimenter wanted, as indicated by the experimenter pointing. The researchers found that the dogs performed well, but the chimps failed to identify the object of interest.

These results emphasize the difference in chimp response to human gaze, which they have been shown to be good at following, versus gestures.

"The fact that chimpanzees do not understand communicative intentions of others, suggests that this may be a uniquely human form of communication. The dogs however challenge this hypothesis. We therefore need to study in more detail the mechanisms behind dogs' understanding of human forms of communication," says Dr. Kirchhofer.


Sheep dogs were better than hunting hounds, earth dogs (dogs used for underground hunting), livestock guard dogs and sled dogs at following a pointing finger. (Credit: iStockphoto/Robert Churchill)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-04-25   3:25:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Ferret Mike (#69)

Dogs can learn it. They aren't born that way like you seemed to imply.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-25   6:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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