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Title: Right-To-Work Is Right For Ohio* (and Elsewhere)
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URL Source: http://www.redstate.com/laborunionr ... -right-for-ohio-and-elsewhere/
Published: Apr 10, 2012
Author: LUR
Post Date: 2012-04-10 07:14:31 by CZ82
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Views: 52767
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Right-To-Work Is Right For Ohio* (and Elsewhere) See update at bottom. As today’s government-union bosses push higher taxes, establish dues schemes to fund their bloated salaries and union-bought politicians, the evidence has become pretty clear: Government unions have become political, parasitic entities injuring taxpayers and the communities they control (see Central Falls and Providence, RI; Detroit, MI; and the once-great State of California for examples). In the private sector, however, where taxpayers’ pockets are not in endless supply, the parasitic model of today’s unions, far too often, allows unions drain companies and ends up killing their hosts. •Related: Ohio Business Owner Shot For Being Non-Union, Police Investigating In large measure, the power unions have gained to cripple economies and companies comes from the ability to require workers to pay union dues (or have the workers fired from their jobs should they refuse to pay the union tribute). In the public sector, union bosses have declared war on Wisconsin’s Scott Walker, Ohio’s John Kasich, Florida’s Rick Scott and, to a lesser extent, Arizona’s Jan Brewer, for their threats to union treasuries through collective bargaining reform. In the private sector, however, while Indiana finally became the 23rd state in the nation to became a Right-to-Work state—which outlaws unions from having workers fired for refusing to pay union dues—other states like, Maine and Ohio are considering the reform, as well. In Ohio, for example, where unions spent in excess of $30 million to crush reforms to the Buckeye State’s antiquated laws governing collective bargaining for government unions, the state is among the worst states in the nation to do business—only topped by California, New Jersey and New York. In their Pyrrhic victory in beating back reform, Ohio’s union bosses demonstrated they can dominate a state, regardless of the price. This, in part, may explain why Ohio is losing more high-tech jobs than the national average and companies like NCR are moving to more business-friendly climes like Georgia. In late March, Ohio’s Buckeye Institute released a report entitled: Ohio Right-To-Work: How the Economic Freedom of Workers Enhances Prosperity. In the report [in PDF], Economist Richard Vedder and his colleagues state that Ohio’s residents would benefit if the Buckeye State enacted a right-to-work law, making Ohio a more attractive place to do business: The typical Ohioan today would have a higher income and standard of living if the Buckeye State had matched the nation in its rate of economic growth in recent decades. However, it did not, and one reason is that the labor climate in the state is unattractive both to businesses making strategic investments and workers wishing to work. According to the Hudson Hub Times, Right-to-Work may make it on Ohio’s ballot in 2013: The report (available online at www.buckeyeinstitute.org) comes as backers of a constitutional amendment to make Ohio a right-to-work state are collecting signatures to place the issue before voters. They don’t expect to gain enough registered voters’ names to qualify for this year’s general election and are eyeing November 2013. In addition to pointing out that Ohio’s “substandard performance performance with respect to economic growth since the late 1970′s would have been eliminated if a right-to-work law had been adopted several decades ago,” Vedder and company estimate that personal income for a family of four would have been $12,000 higher annually if Ohio had a right-to-work law in 1977. The report provides an excellent analysis on the history of unions’ legal authority to coerce dues from workers, as well as the emergence of states’ ability to enact right-to-work laws in 1947 and the chronology of individual states’ enactment of those laws. The report also provides a history of Ohio’s failed efforts to enact a right-to-work law in the late 1950s—much of it due to a lack of a clear and cohesive campaign. Like the recent SB5/Issue 2 campaign, where unions outspent and out organized collective bargaining reform proponents, the lack of a united front (right-to-work proponents were besieged with internal divisions in the late-50s) gave unions the upper hand to defeat right-to-work and solidified union power for decades. Unions and their union dues-funded think tanks, like the Economic Policy Institute, continue to downplay and fight right-to-work laws by claiming right-to-work states have a negative effect on wages. However, the Buckeye Institute report addresses that issue as well: A recent study by Robert Reed helps clear some of the ambiguity by demonstrating that when one controls for the economic conditions of a state prior to its adoption of a RTW law, the relationship between RTW and wages is positive and statistically significant. Reed estimates that when “holding constant economic conditions in 1945—average wages in 2000 [were] 6.68 percent higher in RTW states than non-RTW states.” The Buckeye Institute’s report on Ohio Right-to Work is an excellent read, both for the economic argument behind right-to-work, as well as the history of the effort in Ohio. As Ohio continues to lag behind the nation due to the continued domination of unions in that state, over time, more may realize the right-to-work is right for Ohio (and elsewhere, as well). * Update: Following the publication of this post, a reader e-mailed questioning whether my opinion has changed on whether right-to-work should be on the November (2012) ballot. It has not. 2012 is still not the right time for right-to-work in Ohio. However, the more Ohioans learn about the economic benefits of right-to-work, there may be a broader effort made in 2013 or beyond. “Truth isn’t mean. It’s truth.” — Andrew Brietbart (1969-2012)
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#60. To: calcon (#58)
Please don't interject facts into CZ's world of mythology. He likes the feeling of his head firmly stuck in the sand.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Atta girl! Got to love that! Way to go Mrs. calcon. So, is the Bay area as weird as I hear? I've never been there, but it sure looked nice in Bullitt.
Try to rent a damn house up here, the prices are ridiculous. Congratulations to your wife! If you can swing it, you're probably better off buying right now than renting. Real estate values are down while rents are inflated.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Casinos are very large but notoriously bad employers that set the standards for the state. Casino employees need to have a police card to work so any foreign workers casinos employ would have to be here legally or have a very good forgeries. I lived in Nevada for 7 years and know that the state actively works to lure businesses to relocate to the state. If conservative prescriptions really did stimulate economic growth, Nevada would be booming.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
There's 50 times more traffic now.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Does that include the hotel area too?
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Yes. http://articles.latimes.com/2001/jan/08/news/mn-9838
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
This is kind of interesting... "Nevada is a one-industry state--tourism--and the powers that be seem to want to control what everyone does," said Allen Lichtenstein, general counsel for the local ACLU. Indeed, critics say the issue reflects a facet of Nevada culture not well understood by outsiders: The state's libertarian reputation does not translate into strong support for individual rights, they contend. "Libertarianism in Nevada means freedom for business to do what it pleases--but not necessarily for you as an individual," said Hal Rothman, a history professor at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. "And local government is fundamentally an arm of corporations, functioning in the role of personnel department, by screening workers on behalf of employers."
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
I saw on some TV prison program a few years ago, inmates serving life sentences for swindling casinos. I knew then they owned the Nevada justice system. I hope Nevada citizens enjoy the trade offs.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Many are happy they don't live in communist California.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
It seems to be best for some to live in the equivalent of a company town.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
From what I understand some businesses have relocated there from CA, just not enough to make a dent in the unemployment....(which is suffering because of lack of tourism). But you also have to take into consideration is it really cheaper and easier to do business there because of their location, state and local employment regulations, and having Harry Reid wanting to shake them down for re-election money.... On top of that the unions still have a heavy handed presence there, how do you think Harry got re-elected in 2010.... Right to Work is not a cure all but it is a piece puzzle for making things better....
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
On top of that the unions still have a heavy handed presence there, how do you think Harry got re-elected in 2010.... It's too early to be out to lunch CZ. Harry Reid got re-elected because the GOP chose a radical right-wing nut=bar to run against him. It's clear that you don't understand Nevada politics at all.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Harry Reid got re-elected because the GOP chose a radical right-wing nut=bar to run against him. It's clear that you don't understand Nevada politics at all. ROTFLMMFAO!!!!! It sounds to me like the people of Nevada don't know politics, re-electing a total dumbass douchebag like Harry Reid..... Talk about the porch lights on but nobody's home routine..... Even though Sharon Engle/Angle was not what I would call a good candidate she was better than the douchemaster Harry Reid (hell even one of my dogs The 4 Stooges would be a better candidate than the douchemaster).... Talk about voting for your own demise.... LOL.... kinda like you guys in CA..... LOL.... But then again how many illegal votes did he get because the union was running the voting machines?????? (talk about incest)... LOL... LOL....
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
But then again how many illegal votes did he get because the union was running the voting machines?????? (talk about incest)... LOL... LOL.... You're sounding hysterical. You probably shouldn't be voting in your current state of mind.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Hysterical???? LOL..... Sounds like you missed the voter machine fraud stories coming out of Nevada right after the 2010 elections..... Now whether the fraud stories are true or not is another story but knowing Leftards my guess is that some of them were true... (Seems to me some ACORN folks there were prosecuted and jailed for juse exactly that).... In fact if I remember correctly the polling had her up by 3 or 4 points just before the election and she somehow managed to lose.... (Things that make you go Hmmmmm)....
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
Yes, Sharron announced that Reid was planning to steal the election in October of that year.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
She may have been correct, especially when you tie in the other story about how all of the voting machine programs were erased before anybody had a chance to check/verify them.... Some people can say what they want about how the Tea Party screwed this up, but it ultimately falls on the shoulders of the voters there..... If they don't have a clue about how bad Harry Reid is then they deserve to have him.... Even if you have doubts about her because of how the media portrayed her as a looney, you should still take the opportunity to get rid of him for good..... Even if she does turn out to be somewhat looney you just turn around and get rid of her in 6 years with a better candidate.... The Tea Parties didn't really have a lot of time to find and groom good candidates so consequently a few were gonna be duds.... But they've had 2 more years so their candidates should be much better this time around....
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
I believe he said a few days ago that he doesn't vote. Evidently he enjoys getting all worked up over those that do.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I doubt anyone gets elected in Nevada without the support of the casino industry. Big business both gambling and mining runs the state and supports both ends of the political spectrum as represented by Harry Reid and the Goldwaters. I know you will have a hard time wrapping your pea brain around it, but they like their bread buttered on both sides.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
How bad is Harry Reid? When I left the state, even conservatives who disagreed with him politically liked him personally, including conservative local talk show host and Rush protégé, Rusty Humphrys. Even if you have doubts about her because of how the media portrayed her as a looney, you should still take the opportunity to get rid of him for good..... That is a really stupid (that's a word I don't use often) strategy, unless, of course, you want to prove government can't do anything right.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
When I used to go gold mining, one of the few stations we could pick up was from Reno with Rusty and that guy with the real deep voice, who also used to do intros on the Art Bell show.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I know you will have a hard time wrapping your pea brain around it, but they like their bread buttered on both sides. Thank you for proving my point about the voters not knowing enough to realize that no matter what Reid, the Union bosses and the Mafia bosses say and promise them they aren't looking out for the citizens/workers best interests (only their own)... If nobody showing up to gamble isn't proof enough for them then oohhh well..... I guess they think that having a piddly job working for the bosses and living under tyranny is good enough for them, who cares about the future!!! Now who are the pea brains???? Wake up and smell the roses people instead of voting for your own demise.... Just because you elect someone different than a POS Democrat doesn't mean they are gonna try and shut the casinos down and eliminate all of that money coming in..... Now they may want a cut of it to help improve conditions in the State, but that's not any different that Harry getting his cut that helps destroy the place.....
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
I would say I can't believe you just said that, but what I will say is that pretty much everything the government touches nowadays turns to schitt.... Whats the latest nationwide approval polls of government right now 8 maybe 9%???? Sounds to me like some people know "WHAT" is to blame even though they might not know exactly "WHO" in the government is doing it to them...... What other stategy do you plan on using???? Keep electing Harry and "HOPE" that he does the right thing even though he has proven he doesn't know what the "Right" thing is.... That's like keeping an old car that you "KNOW" will die on you someplace out in the boonies instead of trading it in on a new model and taking your chances that the newer one won't!!!!
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
Sharron Angle's husband was an employee of the BLM and now enjoys one of them government pensions and government health insurance. Sharron herself made a career in the public school classroom and thinks public school teachers are dedicated, overworked, and under paid.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Rusty moved on to Seattle, I think.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Apparently you don't either, or you'd be more specific.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Apparently you don't either, or you'd be more specific. I can think of the make believe President, the wannabe Vice president, all of the communist czars, and 535 in the House and Senate.... Not to mention those in charge of the different Departments (like Education and Labor) and 4 on the SCOTUS..... So how many is that anyway???? Is that specific enough for you or do you need to see more?????
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
That is not specific at all. Exactly who are you blaming for exactly what?
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
The taking of the citizens freedoms and liberties (F&L) by the officials of this country!!!!!! (Plain enough)??? Look up any bill that has passed through the House and Senate and has been signed into law.... Most of them in some way or another take F&L from the citizens of the USA..... Look at who voted for and who voted against the bill, that will tell you who is willing to do the right thing and who is willing to do the wrong thing..... Even bills that don't take away any F&L just look at who voted against it and you will see who is doing the wrong thing.... I would just imagine that when you are done you will find almost every politician at one time or another has voted to take your F&L away from you.... Some for idiotic idealogy, some for money, some for just following the party line, some because they were too lazy to read the bill and some because they are too stupid to know what is good or bad!!!! That make you happy or mad????
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
Plain enough would be to name those freedoms and liberties, and then describe how they are taken away.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Is it like explaining quantum physics to an earthworm?
Some people just don't quite understand the concepts of self responsibility and independence.....
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
The people who do understand, are not spending their time on the internet whining about government.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
I guess having a career, house and family means I don't understand!!!!! That makes me an individual, and since I'm an individual and not a schill for the government does that mean I fall into the "Unproductive" person Category??? And telling others what the government is doing to them is considered whining!!! (WOW, imagine that)..... LOL.... I suppose you consider me a traitor/hypocrit beings I worked for them for 20 years huh?? They don't seem to be too appreciative of what I did for them, they seem to think I might be a extremist/terrorist!!! (Wonder if they put me and all the millions like me on a watch list.... HHmmmmmm). Put it this way the local GOP office doesn't want my help, only Moderates (Baby Democrats) and Statists need apply!!!! (So was I supposed to act like an extremist/terrorist and take over the place)????
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
Aldous Huxley predicted people like loonymom: “There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.” -- Aldous Huxley, March 20, 1962 Berkeley Language Center --
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, This is a foreign concept to her. You might as well try to explain Classical Music to a chimpanzee.
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, So that's why they invented High Fructose Corn Syrup!!!! If you're fat enough you can't resist..... :^)
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
The process to obtain it was invented, it itself was discovered as it already existed. I mean who could object to a process that includes an enzyme, sulfuric acid and glutaldehyde. Plus... "washingtonpost.com Study Finds High-Fructose Corn Syrup Contains Mercury Wednesday, January 28, 2009; 12:00 AM MONDAY, Jan. 26 (HealthDay News) -- Almost half of tested samples of commercial high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) contained mercury, which was also found in nearly a third of 55 popular brand-name food and beverage products where HFCS is the first- or second-highest labeled ingredient, according to two new U.S. studies. HFCS has replaced sugar as the sweetener in many beverages and foods such as breads, cereals, breakfast bars, lunch meats, yogurts, soups and condiments. On average, Americans consume about 12 teaspoons per day of HFCS, but teens and other high consumers can take in 80 percent more HFCS than average. "Mercury is toxic in all its forms. Given how much high-fructose corn syrup is consumed by children, it could be a significant additional source of mercury never before considered. We are calling for immediate changes by industry and the [U.S. Food and Drug Administration] to help stop this avoidable mercury contamination of the food supply," the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy's Dr. David Wallinga, a co-author of both studies, said in a prepared statement. ad_icon In the first study, published in current issue of Environmental Health, researchers found detectable levels of mercury in nine of 20 samples of commercial HFCS. And in the second study, the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy (IATP), a non-profit watchdog group, found that nearly one in three of 55 brand-name foods contained mercury. The chemical was found most commonly in HFCS-containing dairy products, dressings and condiments. But an organization representing the refiners is disputing the results published in Environmental Health. "This study appears to be based on outdated information of dubious significance," said Audrae Erickson, president of the Corn Refiners Association, in a statement. "Our industry has used mercury-free versions of the two re-agents mentioned in the study, hydrochloric acid and caustic soda, for several years. These mercury-free re-agents perform important functions, including adjusting pH balances." However, the IATP told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that four plants in Georgia, Tennessee, Ohio and West Virginia still use "mercury-cell" technology that can lead to contamination. IATP's Ben Lilliston also told HealthDay that the Environmental Health findings were based on information gathered by the FDA in 2005. And the group's own study, while not peer-reviewed, was based on products "bought off the shelf in the autumn of 2008," Lilliston added. The use of mercury-contaminated caustic soda in the production of HFCS is common. The contamination occurs when mercury cells are used to produce caustic soda. "The bad news is that nobody knows whether or not their soda or snack food contains HFCS made from ingredients like caustic soda contaminated with mercury. The good news is that mercury-free HFCS ingredients exist. Food companies just need a good push to only use those ingredients," Wallinga said in his prepared statement. SOURCE: Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy, news release, Jan. 26, 2009 mercury." I hope you enjoy the health benefits of your mass produced food supply courtesy of corporations around the globe.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
That bitch is dumb enough, my guess is she's on a Caro corn-syrup and ho- hos diet, while watching "OWE-prah," Jerry Springer and CNN, to get all the latest news of the world...
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, Supposedly when you consume this stuff it screws with the brain saying you're not full when you're actually full, thereby causing you to overeat!!! Here is an excerpt you might find amusing...... "The American Medical Association concluded last June that this much-maligned sweetener was no worse than sugar. Recently, in The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, a group of noted nutrition experts who’ve studied this processed sweet stuff agreed. Even if you don’t read medical journals or follow the headlines, you’ve probably seen the pro-HFCS commercials on TV—paid for by the Corn Refiners Association—featuring smiling moms reassuring one another that HFCS is perfectly safe and natural. (Of course, cyanide is also natural. Not that taking HFCS is the equivalent of ingesting cyanide, but don’t think it has a clean bill of health.)" fitbottomedgirls.com/2011...e-corn-syrup-bad-for-you- yes-says-dr-oz/
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
You need to realize that the one place having the biggest economic boom in the us is the san francisco bay area. That's where all the high tech businesses are located and they're expanding and increasing their workforces..
#61. To: calcon (#58)
(Edited)
We recently relocated here from san diego simply because my wife is making three times what she used to and her signing bonus here was equal to one years salary at her job in san diego.
#62. To: calcon (#58)
We recently relocated here from san diego simply because my wife is making three times what she used to and her signing bonus here was equal to one years salary at her job in san diego.
#63. To: mininggold (#59)
That conservative utopia of Las Vegas that CZ raves about wouldn't exist without it's cheap source of mostly foreign labor.
#64. To: We The People (#61)
So, is the Bay area as weird as I hear? I've never been there, but it sure looked nice in Bullitt.
#65. To: lucysmom (#63)
Casino employees need to have a police card to work so any foreign workers casinos employ would have to be here legally or have a very good forgeries.
#66. To: mininggold (#65)
Does that include the hotel area too?
#67. To: mininggold (#65)
#68. To: lucysmom (#67)
"Libertarianism in Nevada means freedom for business to do what it pleases--but not necessarily for you as an individual," said Hal Rothman, a history professor at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. "And local government is fundamentally an arm of corporations, functioning in the role of personnel department, by screening workers on behalf of employers."
#69. To: mininggold (#68)
I hope Nevada citizens enjoy the trade offs.
#70. To: lucysmom (#69)
Many are happy they don't live in communist California.
#71. To: lucysmom (#56)
(Edited)
You need to explain why Nevada, with it's pro-business right-to- work, anti-union environment coupled with no corporate or personal income tax isn't a magnate (magnet) for all those businesses fleeing California.
#72. To: CZ82 (#71)
From what I understand some businesses have relocated there from CA, just not enough to make a dent in the unemployment....(which is suffering because of lack of tourism). But you also have to take into consideration is it really cheaper and easier to do business there because of their location, state and local employment regulations, and having Harry Reid wanting to shake them down for re-election money....
#73. To: lucysmom (#72)
It's too early to be out to lunch CZ.
#74. To: CZ82 (#73)
... Talk about voting for your own demise.... LOL.... kinda like you guys in CA..... LOL....
#75. To: lucysmom (#74)
You're sounding hysterical. You probably shouldn't be voting in your current state of mind.
#76. To: CZ82 (#75)
In fact if I remember correctly the polling had her up by 3 or 4 points just before the election and she somehow managed to lose.... (Things that make you go Hmmmmm)....
#77. To: lucysmom (#76)
Yes, Sharron announced that Reid was planning to steal the election in October of that year.
#78. To: lucysmom, CZ82 (#74)
You're sounding hysterical. You probably shouldn't be voting in your current state of mind.
#79. To: CZ82 (#77)
#80. To: CZ82 (#77)
If they don't have a clue about how bad Harry Reid is then they deserve to have him....
#81. To: lucysmom (#80)
How bad is Harry Reid? When I left the state, even conservatives who disagreed with him politically liked him personally, including conservative local talk show host and Rush protégé, Rusty Humphrys.
#82. To: mininggold (#79)
I doubt anyone gets elected in Nevada without the support of the casino industry. Big business both gambling and mining runs the state and supports both ends of the political spectrum as represented by Harry Reid and the Goldwaters.
#83. To: lucysmom (#80)
That is a really stupid (that's a word I don't use often) strategy, unless, of course, you want to prove government can't do anything right.
#84. To: mininggold (#79)
I know you will have a hard time wrapping your pea brain around it, but they like their bread buttered on both sides.
#85. To: mininggold (#81)
When I used to go gold mining, one of the few stations we could pick up was from Reno with Rusty...
#86. To: CZ82 (#83)
Sounds to me like some people know "WHAT" is to blame even though they might not know exactly "WHO" in the government is doing it to them......
#87. To: lucysmom (#86)
Sounds to me like some people know "WHAT" is to blame even though they might not know exactly "WHO" in the government is doing it to them......
#88. To: CZ82 (#87)
Is that specific enough for you or do you need to see more?????
#89. To: lucysmom (#88)
That is not specific at all. Exactly who are you blaming for exactly what?
#90. To: CZ82 (#89)
The taking of the citizens freedoms and liberties (F&L) by the officials of this country!!!!!! (Plain enough)???
#91. To: CZ82 (#89)
#92. To: We The People (#91)
Is it like explaining quantum physics to an earthworm?
#93. To: CZ82 (#92)
Some people just don't quite understand the concepts of self responsibility and independence.....
#94. To: lucysmom (#93)
The people who do understand, are not spending their time on the internet whining about government.
#95. To: CZ82 (#92)
Some people just don't quite understand the concepts of self responsibility and independence.....
The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-- Baghdad Bri-bri -- loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#96. To: CZ82 (#94)
That makes me an individual...
The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-- Baghdad Bri-bri -- loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#97. To: Capitalist Eric (#95)
There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.” -- Aldous Huxley, March 20, 1962 Berkeley Language Center --
#98. To: CZ82 (#97)
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#99. To: CZ82 (#97)
If you're fat enough you can't resist..... :^)
The economy is wonderful!
Re-elect Obama, he'll pay your rent!
A chicken in every pot!
-- Baghdad Bri-bri -- loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#100. To: mininggold (#98)
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