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Title: Right-To-Work Is Right For Ohio* (and Elsewhere)
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URL Source: http://www.redstate.com/laborunionr ... -right-for-ohio-and-elsewhere/
Published: Apr 10, 2012
Author: LUR
Post Date: 2012-04-10 07:14:31 by CZ82
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Right-To-Work Is Right For Ohio* (and Elsewhere) See update at bottom. As today’s government-union bosses push higher taxes, establish dues schemes to fund their bloated salaries and union-bought politicians, the evidence has become pretty clear: Government unions have become political, parasitic entities injuring taxpayers and the communities they control (see Central Falls and Providence, RI; Detroit, MI; and the once-great State of California for examples). In the private sector, however, where taxpayers’ pockets are not in endless supply, the parasitic model of today’s unions, far too often, allows unions drain companies and ends up killing their hosts. •Related: Ohio Business Owner Shot For Being Non-Union, Police Investigating In large measure, the power unions have gained to cripple economies and companies comes from the ability to require workers to pay union dues (or have the workers fired from their jobs should they refuse to pay the union tribute). In the public sector, union bosses have declared war on Wisconsin’s Scott Walker, Ohio’s John Kasich, Florida’s Rick Scott and, to a lesser extent, Arizona’s Jan Brewer, for their threats to union treasuries through collective bargaining reform. In the private sector, however, while Indiana finally became the 23rd state in the nation to became a Right-to-Work state—which outlaws unions from having workers fired for refusing to pay union dues—other states like, Maine and Ohio are considering the reform, as well. In Ohio, for example, where unions spent in excess of $30 million to crush reforms to the Buckeye State’s antiquated laws governing collective bargaining for government unions, the state is among the worst states in the nation to do business—only topped by California, New Jersey and New York. In their Pyrrhic victory in beating back reform, Ohio’s union bosses demonstrated they can dominate a state, regardless of the price. This, in part, may explain why Ohio is losing more high-tech jobs than the national average and companies like NCR are moving to more business-friendly climes like Georgia. In late March, Ohio’s Buckeye Institute released a report entitled: Ohio Right-To-Work: How the Economic Freedom of Workers Enhances Prosperity. In the report [in PDF], Economist Richard Vedder and his colleagues state that Ohio’s residents would benefit if the Buckeye State enacted a right-to-work law, making Ohio a more attractive place to do business: The typical Ohioan today would have a higher income and standard of living if the Buckeye State had matched the nation in its rate of economic growth in recent decades. However, it did not, and one reason is that the labor climate in the state is unattractive both to businesses making strategic investments and workers wishing to work. According to the Hudson Hub Times, Right-to-Work may make it on Ohio’s ballot in 2013: The report (available online at www.buckeyeinstitute.org) comes as backers of a constitutional amendment to make Ohio a right-to-work state are collecting signatures to place the issue before voters. They don’t expect to gain enough registered voters’ names to qualify for this year’s general election and are eyeing November 2013. In addition to pointing out that Ohio’s “substandard performance performance with respect to economic growth since the late 1970′s would have been eliminated if a right-to-work law had been adopted several decades ago,” Vedder and company estimate that personal income for a family of four would have been $12,000 higher annually if Ohio had a right-to-work law in 1977. The report provides an excellent analysis on the history of unions’ legal authority to coerce dues from workers, as well as the emergence of states’ ability to enact right-to-work laws in 1947 and the chronology of individual states’ enactment of those laws. The report also provides a history of Ohio’s failed efforts to enact a right-to-work law in the late 1950s—much of it due to a lack of a clear and cohesive campaign. Like the recent SB5/Issue 2 campaign, where unions outspent and out organized collective bargaining reform proponents, the lack of a united front (right-to-work proponents were besieged with internal divisions in the late-50s) gave unions the upper hand to defeat right-to-work and solidified union power for decades. Unions and their union dues-funded think tanks, like the Economic Policy Institute, continue to downplay and fight right-to-work laws by claiming right-to-work states have a negative effect on wages. However, the Buckeye Institute report addresses that issue as well: A recent study by Robert Reed helps clear some of the ambiguity by demonstrating that when one controls for the economic conditions of a state prior to its adoption of a RTW law, the relationship between RTW and wages is positive and statistically significant. Reed estimates that when “holding constant economic conditions in 1945—average wages in 2000 [were] 6.68 percent higher in RTW states than non-RTW states.” The Buckeye Institute’s report on Ohio Right-to Work is an excellent read, both for the economic argument behind right-to-work, as well as the history of the effort in Ohio. As Ohio continues to lag behind the nation due to the continued domination of unions in that state, over time, more may realize the right-to-work is right for Ohio (and elsewhere, as well). * Update: Following the publication of this post, a reader e-mailed questioning whether my opinion has changed on whether right-to-work should be on the November (2012) ballot. It has not. 2012 is still not the right time for right-to-work in Ohio. However, the more Ohioans learn about the economic benefits of right-to-work, there may be a broader effort made in 2013 or beyond. “Truth isn’t mean. It’s truth.” — Andrew Brietbart (1969-2012)
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#44. To: lucysmom (#42)
And you haven't convinced me it's that good.... Maybe you should ask all the business owners why they are leaving California in droves, maybe they can convince you as to why it isn't as great as you think!!!
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
Maybe you should ask all the business owners why they are leaving California in droves, maybe they can convince you as to why it isn't as great as you think!!! Since the proof is in the pudding, maybe your preferred sources of economic information are stringing you along.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
In 2011, 254 businesses left California out of a total of 3,332,576 businesses in the state.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
I saw the quote from the loonybitch, that "only" 254 businesses left the state. Now, let's that into context, shall we??? From HERE, At one time, California was truly the land of opportunity. But the business climate has turned hostile. According to Jon Coupal, president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, and John Kabateck, executive director of the National Federation of Independent Businesses, the state’s business tax climate is the second worst in the nation. The corporate income tax rate is 8.84%, the highest west of the Mississippi and eighth highest in the country. California’s income tax, which is the tax many small-business owners pay, is the nation’s third highest; the 9.3% rate kicks in at $46,349 in annual income for those who file as individuals, and the 10.3% rate applies to income over $1 million a year. Then there’s the highest sales tax (7.25%, plus local levies in some areas) in the country, the fourth-highest capital gains tax (9.3%) and the second-highest gasoline tax (an average of 65 cents a gallon). There’s also the vicious regulatory environment that businesses have to negotiate. “California’s anti-business climate is worse than ever because many politicians are making a career out of treating businesses as an object of scorn vs. a resource to be appreciated,” says Joe Vranich, an Orange County relocation expert who tracks business movement out of the state and provided the exit numbers cited above… Tell the numbcunt I said "check-mate." :)
To: mcToejam, rat-boy, drippy, Alzheimer Fred, whitesands, t-bird, You're the rudest, most pompous poster I've ever seen on the 'net. Piss off jerkwad.
Last I seen it was 8.75%, guess Mad Jerry didn't get his extension to help pay off the states $26 billion dollar deficit!!!! No worries though he'll just put on some kneepads and go visit Obozo for some taxpayer sponsored handouts conviscated from other states... No wonder she brags about their economy!!!
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
And???
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
They come from California...... Now is this where you reply with Rules for Leftards #43??? I wonder how long it will be before all your left with is Corporations and their collectivism????
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
I'm curious as to what percentage of those businesses send all of their profits South of the Border!!!!
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
And??? The article says: In late March, Ohio’s Buckeye Institute released a report entitled: Ohio Right-To-Work: How the Economic Freedom of Workers Enhances Prosperity. If California is the embodiment of all that is economically evil, why would Ohio want to do anything like California? It's a heads up - hey Ohio voters, evil California is a right-to-work state. Maybe this plan, touted as "Economic Freedom of Workers" is really better for cheap labor employers and not so good for workers after all. Nevada is also a right-to-work state with no personal or corporate income taxes to boot and has the highest unemployment rate in the country, 12.3% to Ohio's 7.6%. money.cnn.com/news/econom...state_unemployment_rates/ Just maybe this economic prosperity thing is a little more complex than low taxes and weak worker protections. Just for fun, look at the unemployment rate in non-right-to-work Vermont.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
And it's biggest source of income is from tourism and the next biggest is home construction...... Need I say more!!!! It sure didn't help them when Obozo was going on his rants about people going to Vegas and blowing their money foolishly there... (Instead of giving it to him so he can find a way to spend it even more foolishly).... LOL!!!!
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
And that is the only thing that somewhat offsets the dismal tax situation there.... (which was the purpose of the article)... I wonder how much of those hard earned taxes that are paid in to California goes for bullchit like handouts for illegal aliens and the intentionally/permanently unemployed????
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
Umm - yes, you do need to say more. You need to explain why Nevada, with it's pro-business right-to-work, anti-union environment coupled with no corporate or personal income tax isn't a magnate for all those businesses fleeing California.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Why don't you ask cheap labor employers who are more than happy to spend money lobbying Congress to make sure their supply of desperate workers doesn't dry up.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
You need to realize that the one place having the biggest economic boom in the us is the san francisco bay area. That's where all the high tech businesses are located and they're expanding and increasing their workforces.. We recently relocated here from san diego simply because my wife is making three times what she used to and her signing bonus here was equal to one years salary at her job in san diego. Try to rent a damn house up here, the prices are ridiculous.
That conservative utopia of Las Vegas that CZ raves about wouldn't exist without it's cheap source of mostly foreign labor.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Please don't interject facts into CZ's world of mythology. He likes the feeling of his head firmly stuck in the sand.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Atta girl! Got to love that! Way to go Mrs. calcon. So, is the Bay area as weird as I hear? I've never been there, but it sure looked nice in Bullitt.
Try to rent a damn house up here, the prices are ridiculous. Congratulations to your wife! If you can swing it, you're probably better off buying right now than renting. Real estate values are down while rents are inflated.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Casinos are very large but notoriously bad employers that set the standards for the state. Casino employees need to have a police card to work so any foreign workers casinos employ would have to be here legally or have a very good forgeries. I lived in Nevada for 7 years and know that the state actively works to lure businesses to relocate to the state. If conservative prescriptions really did stimulate economic growth, Nevada would be booming.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
There's 50 times more traffic now.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Does that include the hotel area too?
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Yes. http://articles.latimes.com/2001/jan/08/news/mn-9838
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
This is kind of interesting... "Nevada is a one-industry state--tourism--and the powers that be seem to want to control what everyone does," said Allen Lichtenstein, general counsel for the local ACLU. Indeed, critics say the issue reflects a facet of Nevada culture not well understood by outsiders: The state's libertarian reputation does not translate into strong support for individual rights, they contend. "Libertarianism in Nevada means freedom for business to do what it pleases--but not necessarily for you as an individual," said Hal Rothman, a history professor at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. "And local government is fundamentally an arm of corporations, functioning in the role of personnel department, by screening workers on behalf of employers."
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
I saw on some TV prison program a few years ago, inmates serving life sentences for swindling casinos. I knew then they owned the Nevada justice system. I hope Nevada citizens enjoy the trade offs.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
Many are happy they don't live in communist California.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
It seems to be best for some to live in the equivalent of a company town.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
From what I understand some businesses have relocated there from CA, just not enough to make a dent in the unemployment....(which is suffering because of lack of tourism). But you also have to take into consideration is it really cheaper and easier to do business there because of their location, state and local employment regulations, and having Harry Reid wanting to shake them down for re-election money.... On top of that the unions still have a heavy handed presence there, how do you think Harry got re-elected in 2010.... Right to Work is not a cure all but it is a piece puzzle for making things better....
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
On top of that the unions still have a heavy handed presence there, how do you think Harry got re-elected in 2010.... It's too early to be out to lunch CZ. Harry Reid got re-elected because the GOP chose a radical right-wing nut=bar to run against him. It's clear that you don't understand Nevada politics at all.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Harry Reid got re-elected because the GOP chose a radical right-wing nut=bar to run against him. It's clear that you don't understand Nevada politics at all. ROTFLMMFAO!!!!! It sounds to me like the people of Nevada don't know politics, re-electing a total dumbass douchebag like Harry Reid..... Talk about the porch lights on but nobody's home routine..... Even though Sharon Engle/Angle was not what I would call a good candidate she was better than the douchemaster Harry Reid (hell even one of my dogs The 4 Stooges would be a better candidate than the douchemaster).... Talk about voting for your own demise.... LOL.... kinda like you guys in CA..... LOL.... But then again how many illegal votes did he get because the union was running the voting machines?????? (talk about incest)... LOL... LOL....
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
But then again how many illegal votes did he get because the union was running the voting machines?????? (talk about incest)... LOL... LOL.... You're sounding hysterical. You probably shouldn't be voting in your current state of mind.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
Hysterical???? LOL..... Sounds like you missed the voter machine fraud stories coming out of Nevada right after the 2010 elections..... Now whether the fraud stories are true or not is another story but knowing Leftards my guess is that some of them were true... (Seems to me some ACORN folks there were prosecuted and jailed for juse exactly that).... In fact if I remember correctly the polling had her up by 3 or 4 points just before the election and she somehow managed to lose.... (Things that make you go Hmmmmm)....
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
Yes, Sharron announced that Reid was planning to steal the election in October of that year.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
She may have been correct, especially when you tie in the other story about how all of the voting machine programs were erased before anybody had a chance to check/verify them.... Some people can say what they want about how the Tea Party screwed this up, but it ultimately falls on the shoulders of the voters there..... If they don't have a clue about how bad Harry Reid is then they deserve to have him.... Even if you have doubts about her because of how the media portrayed her as a looney, you should still take the opportunity to get rid of him for good..... Even if she does turn out to be somewhat looney you just turn around and get rid of her in 6 years with a better candidate.... The Tea Parties didn't really have a lot of time to find and groom good candidates so consequently a few were gonna be duds.... But they've had 2 more years so their candidates should be much better this time around....
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
I believe he said a few days ago that he doesn't vote. Evidently he enjoys getting all worked up over those that do.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I doubt anyone gets elected in Nevada without the support of the casino industry. Big business both gambling and mining runs the state and supports both ends of the political spectrum as represented by Harry Reid and the Goldwaters. I know you will have a hard time wrapping your pea brain around it, but they like their bread buttered on both sides.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
How bad is Harry Reid? When I left the state, even conservatives who disagreed with him politically liked him personally, including conservative local talk show host and Rush protégé, Rusty Humphrys. Even if you have doubts about her because of how the media portrayed her as a looney, you should still take the opportunity to get rid of him for good..... That is a really stupid (that's a word I don't use often) strategy, unless, of course, you want to prove government can't do anything right.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
When I used to go gold mining, one of the few stations we could pick up was from Reno with Rusty and that guy with the real deep voice, who also used to do intros on the Art Bell show.
Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET
I know you will have a hard time wrapping your pea brain around it, but they like their bread buttered on both sides. Thank you for proving my point about the voters not knowing enough to realize that no matter what Reid, the Union bosses and the Mafia bosses say and promise them they aren't looking out for the citizens/workers best interests (only their own)... If nobody showing up to gamble isn't proof enough for them then oohhh well..... I guess they think that having a piddly job working for the bosses and living under tyranny is good enough for them, who cares about the future!!! Now who are the pea brains???? Wake up and smell the roses people instead of voting for your own demise.... Just because you elect someone different than a POS Democrat doesn't mean they are gonna try and shut the casinos down and eliminate all of that money coming in..... Now they may want a cut of it to help improve conditions in the State, but that's not any different that Harry getting his cut that helps destroy the place.....
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
I would say I can't believe you just said that, but what I will say is that pretty much everything the government touches nowadays turns to schitt.... Whats the latest nationwide approval polls of government right now 8 maybe 9%???? Sounds to me like some people know "WHAT" is to blame even though they might not know exactly "WHO" in the government is doing it to them...... What other stategy do you plan on using???? Keep electing Harry and "HOPE" that he does the right thing even though he has proven he doesn't know what the "Right" thing is.... That's like keeping an old car that you "KNOW" will die on you someplace out in the boonies instead of trading it in on a new model and taking your chances that the newer one won't!!!!
"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."
Sharron Angle's husband was an employee of the BLM and now enjoys one of them government pensions and government health insurance. Sharron herself made a career in the public school classroom and thinks public school teachers are dedicated, overworked, and under paid.
Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestYou haven't convinced me that doing business in California is all that bad.
#45. To: CZ82 (#44)
And you haven't convinced me it's that good....
#46. To: CZ82 (#44)
Maybe you should ask all the business owners why they are leaving California in droves, maybe they can convince you as to why it isn't as great as you think!!!
#47. To: CZ82 (#44)
Maybe you should ask all the business owners why they are leaving California in droves, maybe they can convince you as to why it isn't as great as you think!!!
In 2011, more businesses (254) quit California than the year before (202), which was a high-water mark over 2009 (51). Last year, roughly five businesses left in any given week, one more than left in each week of 2010 when the average was 3.9.
loonymom, ming, e-type jackoff, goober56, wreck, cal-CON, rabid dog, dummy DwarF, biff, harrowup the communist, and meguro. You're on the "a waste of human flesh" list. Brian S[ocialist], you're a propagandist moron. ALL of you can piss off.
#48. To: Capitalist Eric (#47)
#49. To: Capitalist Eric (#47)
Then there’s the highest sales tax (7.25%, plus local levies in some areas) in the country,
#50. To: lucysmom (#1)
Guess what? California is a right to work state.
#51. To: mininggold (#45)
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Since the proof is in the pudding, maybe your preferred sources of economic information are stringing you along.
#52. To: lucysmom (#46)
California out of a total of 3,332,576 businesses in the state.
#53. To: CZ82 (#50)
Guess what? California is a right to work state.
#54. To: lucysmom (#53)
Nevada is also a right-to-work state with no personal or corporate income taxes to boot and has the highest unemployment rate in the country, 12.3% to Ohio's 7.6%.
#55. To: lucysmom (#53)
It's a heads up - hey Ohio voters, evil California is a right-to-work state.
#56. To: CZ82 (#54)
And it's biggest source of income is from tourism and the next biggest is home construction...... Need I say more!!!!
#57. To: CZ82 (#55)
I wonder how much of those hard earned taxes that are paid in to California goes for bullchit like handouts for illegal aliens and the intentionally/permanently unemployed????
#58. To: CZ82, lucysmom (#44)
Maybe you should ask all the business owners why they are leaving California in droves, maybe they can convince you as to why it isn't as great as you think!!!
#59. To: lucysmom, CZ82 (#57)
Why don't you ask cheap labor employers who are more than happy to spend money lobbying Congress to make sure their supply of desperate workers doesn't dry up.
#60. To: calcon (#58)
You need to realize that the one place having the biggest economic boom in the us is the san francisco bay area. That's where all the high tech businesses are located and they're expanding and increasing their workforces..
#61. To: calcon (#58)
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We recently relocated here from san diego simply because my wife is making three times what she used to and her signing bonus here was equal to one years salary at her job in san diego.
#62. To: calcon (#58)
We recently relocated here from san diego simply because my wife is making three times what she used to and her signing bonus here was equal to one years salary at her job in san diego.
#63. To: mininggold (#59)
That conservative utopia of Las Vegas that CZ raves about wouldn't exist without it's cheap source of mostly foreign labor.
#64. To: We The People (#61)
So, is the Bay area as weird as I hear? I've never been there, but it sure looked nice in Bullitt.
#65. To: lucysmom (#63)
Casino employees need to have a police card to work so any foreign workers casinos employ would have to be here legally or have a very good forgeries.
#66. To: mininggold (#65)
Does that include the hotel area too?
#67. To: mininggold (#65)
#68. To: lucysmom (#67)
"Libertarianism in Nevada means freedom for business to do what it pleases--but not necessarily for you as an individual," said Hal Rothman, a history professor at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. "And local government is fundamentally an arm of corporations, functioning in the role of personnel department, by screening workers on behalf of employers."
#69. To: mininggold (#68)
I hope Nevada citizens enjoy the trade offs.
#70. To: lucysmom (#69)
Many are happy they don't live in communist California.
#71. To: lucysmom (#56)
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You need to explain why Nevada, with it's pro-business right-to- work, anti-union environment coupled with no corporate or personal income tax isn't a magnate (magnet) for all those businesses fleeing California.
#72. To: CZ82 (#71)
From what I understand some businesses have relocated there from CA, just not enough to make a dent in the unemployment....(which is suffering because of lack of tourism). But you also have to take into consideration is it really cheaper and easier to do business there because of their location, state and local employment regulations, and having Harry Reid wanting to shake them down for re-election money....
#73. To: lucysmom (#72)
It's too early to be out to lunch CZ.
#74. To: CZ82 (#73)
... Talk about voting for your own demise.... LOL.... kinda like you guys in CA..... LOL....
#75. To: lucysmom (#74)
You're sounding hysterical. You probably shouldn't be voting in your current state of mind.
#76. To: CZ82 (#75)
In fact if I remember correctly the polling had her up by 3 or 4 points just before the election and she somehow managed to lose.... (Things that make you go Hmmmmm)....
#77. To: lucysmom (#76)
Yes, Sharron announced that Reid was planning to steal the election in October of that year.
#78. To: lucysmom, CZ82 (#74)
You're sounding hysterical. You probably shouldn't be voting in your current state of mind.
#79. To: CZ82 (#77)
#80. To: CZ82 (#77)
If they don't have a clue about how bad Harry Reid is then they deserve to have him....
#81. To: lucysmom (#80)
How bad is Harry Reid? When I left the state, even conservatives who disagreed with him politically liked him personally, including conservative local talk show host and Rush protégé, Rusty Humphrys.
#82. To: mininggold (#79)
I doubt anyone gets elected in Nevada without the support of the casino industry. Big business both gambling and mining runs the state and supports both ends of the political spectrum as represented by Harry Reid and the Goldwaters.
#83. To: lucysmom (#80)
That is a really stupid (that's a word I don't use often) strategy, unless, of course, you want to prove government can't do anything right.
#84. To: mininggold (#79)
I know you will have a hard time wrapping your pea brain around it, but they like their bread buttered on both sides.
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