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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

8D

Needing an 'a' instead of an 'i'.

Laughing out loud...at your service.

'There will be various'.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-26   9:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

Corrected sir.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-26   9:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#1)

So, in lieu of payment,....I get gasoline credits?

Good at my local station? 8D

Repeating:

A Colonel and Major were shot in the back of the head by a Senior Afghan Intel Officer.

Time for Hillary to take off from directing our forces in Syria for a Surprise Kabul Landing....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-26   9:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#2)

Corrected sir.

You are most kind, and efficient.

Kudos to you, sir.

Jim

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-26   9:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone, mcgowanjm (#0)

Mcgowanjm Wire Service.

So is he going to be our new National Wire Service????

"The trouble with our liberal friends are not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

CZ82  posted on  2012-02-26   9:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CZ82 (#5)

So is he going to be our new National Wire Service????

Don't know. This is all news to me....8D

The Taliban, who have claimed responsibility for the attack, said 'a hero mujahid Abdul Rahman' killed four advisers over the burning of Korans at a US-run military base.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2106305/Afghanistan-2-US-troops-killed-Koran-burning-protests-continue.html#ixzz1nV4BbUAh

The killer of a US Colonel and Major (and 'two more'?) has telephoned a progress report to the Taliban, who have already put this story on their 'wire'...

I'd evac the Afghans right now. The entire Op has been compromised.

As the Taliban take credit for shooting down a drone over Waziristan... which would be huge news (like the Taliban control Pakistan air space better than the Pakis themselves) except for the dead US Col and Major.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-26   10:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

So is he going to be our new National Wire Service????

Don't know. This is all news to me....8D

You seem to be doing a better job of reporting the news than they are.....

"The trouble with our liberal friends are not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

CZ82  posted on  2012-02-26   10:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: CZ82 (#7)

Don't know. This is all news to me....8D

You seem to be doing a better job of reporting the news than they are.....

Fulsome praise indeed.

Surprised and taken aback by genuine trust....my very weakness of not expecting same....

Thank you, Cz...8D

So when I post, where does this show up.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   10:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

The killer of a US Colonel and Major (and 'two more'?) has telephoned a progress report to the Taliban, who have already put this story on their 'wire'...

The killer is still at large last I heard. What a mess. US advisers are being evacuated from 'safe and secure' buildings.

What a mess - oh, I repeat myself.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-27   10:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Fred Mertz (#9)

And here we go.

That Sound you're hearing coming out of DC is the Eye on every neck of every 'chief' of every Intel Agency being violently pulled away from whatever they thought was pressing....;}

"University of Wyoming political science professor Jim King said the potential for a complete unraveling of the U.S. government and economy is “astronomically remote” in the foreseeable future...."

Which translated means the USSA has mere months now before going Non Linear.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10) (Edited)

Syria: The Battle of Homs was won and reported to President Bashar al-Assad that it was over on Thursday, 23 February, at 1900 hours.

Watch as Syria fades from your Statetv screen now....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11) (Edited)

"They were given permission to enter the premises with ambulances to repatriate the bodies of the two dead journalists, and to evacuate the rest, both injured and sound. However, at the last moment, the journalists refused to leave, fearing a trap set up by the Damascus authorities. Indeed, they had been told by their French colleagues who left the scene earlier that the Syrian government would strive to eliminate them. Moreover, having access only to satellite TV channels controlled by NATO and the GCC, they are convinced that the fighting of which they are the victims is not only limited to their neighborhood, but extends throughout all of Syria. ..."

Being on the spot, I offered my services to the authorities to facilitate the removal of my compatriots and colleagues. The negotiations lasted over four hours. Several states, including France, were kept abreast of these events.

After several twists and turns, the officers of the Free "Syrian" Army received the instruction via satellite to decline. Their encrypted communications with their superiors either ended up in Beirut or were relayed via Beirut. De facto the journalists are being used as human shields even more effectively than civilians, the rebels fearing a final assault by Syrian forces.

Therefore, journalists are now the prisoners of those who sponsor the Free "Syrian" Army, the very same ones on whose behalf the "Friends of Syria," gathered at the Tunis conference, appealed for support, funds and arms.

-Thierry Meyssan

www.voltairenet.org/For-the-release-of-our-compatriots

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#12)

Kunstler Blog this AM:

Right on the mark per usual...except.....

"The political spin is a quixotic effort to promote another commonly touted lie about the future: that the US is approaching a point of "energy independence."

MY Edit: But we ARE achieving Energy Independence. Just not the kind that the USSA citizen was looking for...;}

You'll know we got there when you have to walk to your new job weeding the potato fields. The mendacity behind this propaganda is strictly the wish of politicians to avoid telling voters the truth, out of sheer cowardice for the consequences. US Energy Secretary Steven Chu will go down in history as a pathetically passive quisling, who thought he was honest and patriotic by standing in the background and keeping his mouth shut...."

http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/02/a-fog-of-mendacity.html#more

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: All (#13) (Edited)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p0Y4nX...2-02-27+at+9.30.59+AM.png

Stuart at

earlywarn.blogspot.com/20...gas-prices-high.html#more

Detailing the Cardiac Arrest that the USSA Economy is in the Middle of right now. Started May 05.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:13:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All (#14)

" Kabul on razor's edge By M K Bhadrakumar

The killing in Kabul on Saturday of two high-ranking American military officials - a colonel and a major - serving with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) will prompt a paradigm shift in regional security. Afghanistan surges as still America's number one "hot spot", over-shadowing Syria and Iran.

www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/NB28Df02.html

We need to be pulling out our forces now so that they aren't stranded...

unless we consider Russia's guarantee of safe conduct thru their state to be trusted and valid when we most need them....;}

"

If President Barack Obama thought it was time for the United States military to "pivot" toward the Asia-Pacific, it has been delusionary thinking. The Taliban retain a big say still in the upcoming campaign for Obama's re-election bid.."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#15) (Edited)

" Crocker added, "This is not the time to decide that we are done here. We have got to redouble our efforts. We've got to create a situation that al-Qaeda is not coming back. If we decide we're tired of it, al-Qaeda and the Taliban certainly aren't." Hmm. Now we know Crocker was addressing the American public. "

And I'm sure that our Saigon Ambassador made similar noises, secure in the belief that he had a SpecOps provided getaway Helo.

And noting from the 'Syria article' above that AQ is our bestest buddies now in both Libya and Syria but not in the Afghans....

Your State Dept at work....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-27   11:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mcgowanjm (#11)

Syria: The Battle of Homs was won and reported to President Bashar al-Assad that it was over on Thursday, 23 February, at 1900 hours.

What more do you have on this battle?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-27   13:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Nothing now, except that Thierry's report is holding up, based on the Two/other reporters being moved to Beirut.

Nic Robertson (MI6-CNN) stating that 3 'activists' lost their lives, getting the reporters out....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All (#18) (Edited)

www.stripes.com/news/midd...ack-of-awareness-1.169946

"“This is not going back to business as usual,” an Army officer who works as an adviser in Kabul said Sunday. “The threat is still higher than normal.”

Once advisers return to the ministries, the officer said, some will probably have to shorten their visits, instead of remaining there for six- to 10-hour shifts, to reduce risks."

Why burn a book?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: All (#19)

Why burn a Book?

Remember that Idiot snake handler in Florida who burned a Koran?

Evidently our famous CIA/SpecOps did not.

" A particularly revealing incident was the killing of a US colonel and major by an Afghan official inside the Afghan Interior Ministry’s Command and Control Center—supposedly one of the most secure facilities in Kabul.

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy.

" The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both......and jesus wept.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mcgowanjm (#20)

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

That version of events is hard for me to believe.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-28   9:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: All (#20)

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy.

This. IS. Huge.

First, it reveals the Big Lie. These two, the LtCol and the Major were NOT just sitting at their deskes engaged in 'hearts&minds' coordination.

They were joking about burning the 'word of god' to Afghans.

And

Second, there was no intrigue here as 'back of the head' implies like how do you shoot TWO (one a SpecOps) in the back of the head.

EIGHT TIMES...that's a lot of noise in a building.

" Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy."

Was Saboor applauded as he walked out? As he got in his vehicle and drove away?

With this event there maybe 5 people on both sides- green & blue -talking back and forth to each other.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Fred Mertz (#21)

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

That version of events is hard for me to believe.

It would be for me as well, except as I've posted above, the Two shots, one to each, to the back of the head was always harder to accept.

And the fact that Saboor did not slink away but was admired as he walked thru the building....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#23) (Edited)

And of course the reaction by ISAF/NATO/USSA to immediately bring in ALL Liaisons with Afghan personnel speaks volumes.

The Washington Post quoted two Afghan policemen at a Kabul checkpoint. "Afghans and the world’s Muslims should rise against the foreigners. We have no patience left," one said, while his partner added, "We both will attack the foreign military people."

Again. Why would you burn a book?

[A]fter 2014, the Afghans will do the bulk of the fighting but will still have advisers from abroad in combat with them. U.S. forces are still expected to supply air support, artillery, medical evacuation and combat logistics after 2014 because the Afghan army will have none of these support services ready before 2016 at the earliest. The U.S. role will shift, but it is critically important to understand that, in the shift to a mission mainly devoted to advising and supporting — whatever the terms used — our forces will still be fighting on the ground, before, during and after 2014.

We'll be out by Xmas. Which means Iran will not have it's Eastern flank exposed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   9:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: All (#24)

Considering what we now know about the true strength of the Afghan National Army (ANA), the prospects for a clean cut appear slimmer everyday.

Depending on who’s doing the counting, the ANA consists of 100,000 to 150,000 soldiers, but only 1 percent of their units can operate without direct NATO assistance, according to Army Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, an officer with the U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), in a recent interview with Military.com.

All we've done is create a ready made Army for the Taliban.

Maybe we should start cooperating with the ISI now for some valuable info instead of trying to destroy it?

And keeping the Pakistanis from taking Iranian gas....;}

To ReCap:

"Depending on who’s doing the counting, the ANA consists of 100,000 to 150,000 soldiers, but only 1 percent of their units can operate without direct NATO assistance, according to Army Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, an officer with the U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), in a recent interview with Military.com.

Scaparrotti appears to think it is somewhat redeeming that after $12 billion of U.S. investment in 2011 alone, 42 percent of the ANA units are capable of leading security operations “with advisers.”

Thanks a lot — considering that after this week’s riots, NATO didn’t even deem its advisers safe enough to let them continue their work in the ministry buildings. ...

As of this moment there is almost ZERO interaction between this MultiBillion Army and ISAF/NATO/USSA...;}

Mullah Omar could give the order today and how many of that Army would fight under the White Taliban flag?

After 11 years and this is our effort revealed?

It's looking more and more like Saigon 1975.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   10:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mcgowanjm (#22)

The two US officers mocked the Koran and argued with an Afghan official, identified as Abdul Saboor, 25. Saboor then shot eight rounds at them, killing both.

Saboor reportedly walked out of the heavily-guarded ministry without interference, which suggests that his actions evoked widespread sympathy.

interesting

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-28   10:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Fred Mertz (#21)

You can't burn satans book (the koran) but you can burn gods book (the Bible).

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-02-28   10:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#26)

interesting

As for Karzai himself, installed as president by the US-led invasion of 2001 and long derided as the "mayor of Kabul," he stands exposed as the tool of a hated foreign occupation, despised even by his own policemen.

Don't you know that Palace is tense right now....;}

The desecration of the Korans at Bagram flows inexorably from the reactionary character of the US-led occupation of Afghanistan—a war of aggression waged against the Afghan people in the face of widespread opposition to war in the American and European working class.

Who had nothing to do with 9/11.

Amazingly, the act of burning a book will be the death of the Afghan Occupation.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-28   10:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mcgowanjm (#28)

Amazingly, the act of burning a book will be the death of the Afghan Occupation.

You might want to copyright that quote Jim.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-28   15:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mcgowanjm, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#24)

2014.

We'll be out by Xmas.

You're most likely right. They don't like the US timetable. Stupid to announce one, if you're going to quit just get the hell out.

Bring the troops home where they can burn all the Korans, Bibles, flags, Canadian Tar Sands oil, or whatever they want.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-02-28   15:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Fred Mertz (#29)

You might want to copyright that quote Jim.

Feel free to take it as your own....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#27)

You can't burn satans book (the koran) but you can burn gods book (the Bible).

Burning any book is thoughtless.

Unless it's Day After Tomorrow and you're going to die from cold....;}

Even then, start with the Tax Code Section...8D

Just leave it alone. Fahrenheit 451.

Which, btw, gives the lie to the 'accidental' part of the story.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Syria: The Battle of Homs was won and reported to President Bashar al-Assad that it was over on Thursday, 23 February, at 1900 hours.

What more do you have on this battle?

"France opens negotiations with Syria to recover its 18 agents Posted by seumasach on February 27, 2012

Thierry Meyssan

27th February, 2012

On 13 February 2012, Thierry Meyssan revealed on the first Russian television channel that Syria had captured a dozen French soldiers. Voltaire Network is now in a position to confirm that as of 26 February the number of French prisoners is 18 (eighteen).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:31:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#33)

If Paris admits that they were on a mission, they will be entitled to prisoner-of-war status and protected by the relative Geneva Convention; but if Paris denies having sent them, they will be considered as foreign civilians and judged in Syria for their crimes, which are punishable by the death penalty.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#34) (Edited)

Can't do a sneak attack on Iran with Russia watching not 25 Klicks away....;}

According to the site, Russia is now able to track and control sea and air movements of U.S. and Israel in the eastern Mediterranean, including the airspace of Cyprus and Greece.

So that the USSA will be the Last to Know?

Please.....;}

" Israeli officials say if they decide to launch a pre-emptive attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, they will do so without the prior consent or knowledge of the US, according to an AP report citing leaked US intelligence.

­The message was conveyed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak to a number of senior US officials visiting the country, the news agency said, citing a US intelligence source. "

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   8:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: All (#35)

And of course the And All Be All of this Bizarro World 12 year dance....

RPT-Saudi oil output nearing capacity limit | Reuters

www.reuters.com/article/2...udi-idUSL6E8CB0QB20120111

Jan 11, 2012 – Repeats JAN 10 story, no change to text)* Saudi Arabia now pumping just under 10 mln bpd* On paper should be able to reach 12.5 mln bpd* ...

The Saudis are at capacity. Expect Ghawar to do a Cantarell at any time now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   9:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: All (#36)

So...

In exchange for the French POW's....

" In the secret war against Syria, France and its allies are responsible for a conflict that caused the death of at least 3,000 Syrian soldiers and 1,500 civilians, plus economic losses and the sabotage of infrastructure estimated at least $ 3 billion.

inthesenewtimes.com/2012/...to-recover-its-18-agents/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   9:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone, All (#37)

Battle of Syria

*ping*

the above.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   9:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: All (#38) (Edited)

"The Afghan War shouldn’t be the world’s most complicated subject to deal with. After all, the message is clear enough. Eleven years in, if your forces are still burning Korans in a deeply religious Muslim country, it’s way too late and you should go.

Instead, the U.S. command in Kabul and the administration back home have proceeded to tie themselves in a series of bizarre knots, issuing apologies, orders, and threats to no particular purpose as events escalated."

"The only Afghans with access to that area are translators, Afghan officials said.

And I still don't believe that Interior Ministry Story....

"The BBC's Orla Guerin in Kabul says EIGHT shots were reported inside the building, which should be one of the safest in the capital, and that any Afghan who carried out the attack would have had the highest clearance....

And then the wo/man calmly walked out the front door, got in a car, and drove away, telephoning the Taliban to report FOUR men killed....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   9:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: All (#39) (Edited)

And here's some news:

From 1978...note how Afghan Movements perfectly reflect US Domestic ones....;}

"Reform and reaction: AD 1978-1979

Daud's government is overthrown (and he and most of his family killed) by a lef-wing faction within the army. When the coup is complete, the officers hand over control to the nation's two leftist political parties - Khalq (the People's party) and Parcham (the Banner party). The two are for once working in harmony, though only briefly.

Once in government, the two Khalq leaders seize power. Nur Mohammad Taraki becomes president and prime minister, with Hafizullah Amin as one of two deputy prime ministers. The Parcham leader, Babrak Karmal, is the other deputy prime minister - but he is soon despatched abroad as ambassador to Prague.

Taraki and Amin press ahead with a rapid programme of reform along communist lines. Equal rights for women are introduced, land is redistributed - all against the advice of Moscow, which favours a more cautious approach for fear of a Muslim backlash. Meanwhile the leaders of the Parcham party are persecuted and in several cases killed. Many, including Babrak Karmal, take refuge in Russia.

The Kremlin is soon proved right.

Read more: www.historyworld.net/wrld...toryid=ad09#ixzz1nmpepQBs

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   10:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: All (#40) (Edited)

Noting here how British Endeavors are ALWAYS presented as Victories, even as it's Empire is crumbling.....

sound familiar?

" In November 1878 three British armies push through the mountain passes into Afghanistan. They take Jalalabad and Kandahar by the end of the year, and soon seem to have achieved everything they might wish for. A very advantageous treaty is agreed in May 1879 with Yakub Khan (the son of Sher Ali, who has died in February).

Under the treaty Yakub Khan accepts a permanent British embassy in Kabul. Moreover Afghanistan's foreign affairs are from now on to be conducted by the British. But events soon prove that such a privilege can be dangerous in Afghanistan. In September the British envoy to Kabul and his entire staff and escort are massacred.

This disaster brings an immediate escalation of British military activity in Afghanistan, but to little political advantage.

Read more: www.historyworld.net/wrld...toryid=ad09#ixzz1nmqbdc5n

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   10:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: All (#41)

And Karzai's chances of getting out of the Afghans alive get worse by the day:

"In March 1979 a resistance group declares a jihad, or holy war, against the godless regime in Kabul. In the same month more than 100 Soviet citizens living in Herat are seized and killed.

Meanwhile the two Khalq leaders are themselves at loggerheads. In September 1979 the president, Taraqi, attempts to assassinate his prime minister, Amin. Instead, within two days, Taraqi is in the hands of Amin supporters. Three weeks later he dies - 'of a serious illness', according to the official announcement.

Read more: www.historyworld.net/wrld...toryid=ad09#ixzz1nmrOhyDX

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   11:00:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: All (#42)

"In March 1979 a resistance group declares a jihad, or holy war, against the godless regime in Kabul. In the same month more than 100 Soviet citizens living in Herat are seized and killed.

And what was happening in Iran at this time, you ask?

Iranian Revolution novaonline.nvcc.edu/eli/evans/his135/Events/Iran79.htmCached - Similar

31 March 1979, referendum approved the establishment of an Islamic ... 4 November 1979, Iranian militants seized the U.S. embassy in Teheran and held ...

So by the 4th of November, right smack dab in the middle of POTUS Election, Saigon 1975 in Kabul.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   11:03:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: hondo68 (#30)

They don't like the US timetable. Stupid to announce one

They did not want to.

Look thru the entire 'adventure'. McCain, only a lil while ago again stated the 'mission' was open ended.

You don't need Top Secret Intel to figure DC out....;}

CYA is Always the GoTo option.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   11:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: hondo68, All (#44)

""Now we are zooming the 5th floor of reactor 3, where the fuel storage pool is. We must be able to see the top of the fuel storage pool at the very place. There “must” be the fuel storage pool in the center of the screen. However, we can not see even a part of the pool from the sky."

Example of the finest CYA as only the Japanese know how.

Proclaiming that Fukushima is now in 'cold shutdown' and 'under control' there is therefore no need to prevent overflights.

The Major Media have thus been doing just that.

And so discover that the SFP of Reactor #3, the MOX reprocessed stuff is no longer there....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-02-29   11:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: mcgowanjm (#44)

Jim, I'm reading; keep posting. Thanx...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-02-29   11:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: mcgowanjm (#45)

the SFP of Reactor #3, the MOX reprocessed stuff is no longer there....

Even the pilgrims are using nuke power now. Move on up to the 20th century at least, if you can't make it all the way to the 21st.

Those Iranians are sure SLOW at building those plants. What's the hold up?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-02-29   15:23:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: hondo68 (#47)

Those Iranians are sure SLOW at building those plants. What's the hold up?

STUXNET.

The problem for Israel is that the Iranians are THE past masters at Reverse Engineering....;}

The next nuke will be better and cost less.

Just like the next Iranian 'Sunburn, sub, Remote Stealth, Train, Car, Subway, City Design, will be.....8D

Which is why Israel hates them.

An Alt Society is Anathema to Israelis....bad example to their slaves.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: All (#48)

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

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So if Hague, Hammond and Cameron love Israel so much let them and the regime’s other admirers don uniform and flak-jacket and go play battleships in the Gulf’s “bathtub” themselves. Who in their right mind would volunteer to be that trio’s cannon-fodder?

Note the ONLY place you find Israeli 'soldiers' is guarding their ghettoes?

Someone needs to make these points clear. And I agree, it's as if they want to be hated, the stuff that comes out of their 1% mouths.

O they're very clear to the 10% of the Bottom 99.

The Intelligentsia of the Bottom 99.

The 80% in the Middle ALWAYS go with the flow.

See: At height of Revolutionary Resistance only 10%, including women, children, were fighting the Brits, for details....;}

"Whether the wars in the Middle East are really about oil, central banking control, or military-industrial profits seems irrelevant to the general public who have been only conditioned to believe in simple concepts like good versus evil. Obviously, everyone naturally views their side as good. Despite extraordinary evidence of our side's grotesque misdeeds, making the mental leap that we're the worst of the bad guys seems to be too big a gap to close for most people."

All you have to do is cleanse the Trolls and Stand/Hold your ground....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: All (#49)

alt-market.com/articles/5...stify-more-preemptive-war

02:23 AM EDT on March 1st, 2012 | 41 comments *Listen* Top US Nuclear Official: Melted core penetrates concrete at 2 inches per hour — No doubt containment is lost during blackout — Mark I worst of all — Manual tells you everything except how to stop it (AUDIO)

01:41 AM EDT on March 1st, 2012 | 14 comments WSJ Reporter: ‘Eerily quiet’ at Fukushima given massive amount to be done — What really hit me is how much radiation levels vary around plant (VIDEO)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: All (#50)

In the most recent GOP debate, a resolved Ron Paul received groans and boos from the crowd for attempting to explain the "just war" principle of using military for defense only when referring to Iran. He then received an awkward silence when he explained that war should only be acceptable if the people's representatives vote for it per the Constitution. Similarly, he heard crickets with his historical perspective of the USSR's thousands of proven nuclear warheads pointed at America to show what little threat Iran actually poses. Finally, he tried to explain that war is a bad idea economically; that we simply can't afford it.

Nothing seemed to sway much of the audience. They only see good and evil. And they've been told Iran and Syria are evil. Therefore, the evil doers must be dealt with through death and destruction like all the other GOP candidates advocate.

By the way, the Obama Administration supports the exact same war mongering as is obvious by the State Department's rhetoric and actions outlined above.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:15:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: All (#51)

Somehow the masses, who are the only ones who can stop the bloodshed, continue to buy the propaganda and rubber stamp the murderous aggressive wars. The gullibility of the masses has surpassed embarrassing levels, and unless there is a rapid awakening, we are surely headed for blood....;}

This seems to happen with humans also: Paul Buchheit, from DePaul University, revealed, “From 1980 to 2006 the richest 1% of America tripled their after-tax percentage of our nation’s total income, while the bottom 90% have seen their share drop over 20%.” Robert Freeman added, “Between 2002 and 2006, it was even worse: an astounding three-quarters of all the economy’s growth was captured by the top 1%.”

This sounds exactly like the kind of hierarchical behavior observed in the animal kingdom when social species get stressed. If there is not enough to go around, resources that are available are concentrated in the hands of those at the top of the pyramid, marginalizing those at the bottom of the pyramid. If total resources are inadequate, population at the bottom of the pyramid is reduced, leaving those at the top untouched.

In this post, I discuss some of the issues raised by Dilworth and the parallels I see with humans. I also add a perspective of hope....

ourfiniteworld.com/2012/0...at-went-wrong/#more-15362

A perspective of hope was hopeless. She thinks Religion and just 'moving on' will solve the Top 1% Psychos....;}

Go ahead Israel. Fuck Up.. Quick...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: All (#52)

CHUCK CASTO [Deputy Regional Administrator]: [...] if we end up with a molten core and then you talk about the time for the concrete to disassociate, you know, that NUREG says it's

a couple of inches an hour,

you know. And, of course, that Mark 1 containment is the worst one of all the containments we have, and it's literally, you know, this NUREG tells you that in a station blackout you're going to lose containment. There's no doubt about it.

# Kevin Kevin March 1, 2012 at 3:19 am Log in to Reply

Only about 8 feet of concrete to eat through at 2 inches an hour, I would imagine once it hits earth it travels much more rapidly.

love you short quips though, you gotta great sense of humour

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* Alice Alice March 1, 2012 at 4:09 am Log in to Reply

I swear, Kevin, there have been days when I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

All the right ingredients for a blockbuster disaster movie but all too real.

We're going over an abyss.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: All (#53)

Here's whose riding the rails to Hell, A K.

Not the Peace loving Gays....and their proponents...;}

" Like a greasy loan shark working for a hardboiled mob cartel, World Bank’s M.O. is to lend large capital packages (made with money or credit created out of thin air) which the target country and its government obviously cannot afford to pay back. These loans often stipulate that the country relinquish control of its natural resources, the true wealth of the nation, over to international corporate bodies for “management”. Through this process, World Bank removes competition from a market and hands designated companies (globalist front-companies) the keys to the kingdom. ...

The (Partial)List of Hell Goers, A K...

" -Dr Ismali Serageldin (Commission Chair), Vice President, World Bank, and Chair of Global Water Partnership

-Margaret Catley-Carlson, President, Population Council

-Gordon Conway, President, The Rockefeller Foundation

-Mohamed T. El-Ashry, Chair and CEO of the Global Environment Facility

-Howard Hjort, former Deputy Director, FAO

-Enriquo Iglesias, President, Inter-American Development Bank

-Yolanda Kababadse, President, World Conservation Union

-Jessica Mathews, President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, USA

-Robert S. McNamara, Co-Chair, Global Coalition for Africa

-Maurice Strong, Chair, Earth Council, member of Commission on Global Governance, and a chief adviser in charge of the UN reform process

-Wilfred Thalwitz, former Senior VP, World Bank

-Jerome Mondo, Chair of the Supervisory Board, Suez Lyonnaise des Eaux

In March of 2000, the forum made the following statement:

“Water is an economic good and its economic value should be recognized in the allocation of scarce water resources to competing uses. While this should not prevent people from meeting their basic needs for water services at affordable prices, the price for water must be set at a level that encourages conservation and wise use...”

www.waternunc.com/gb/secwwf11.htm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:27:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone, All (#54) (Edited)

Print France’s secret war against the Syrian people

Voltaire Network | 22 February 2012

www.voltairenet.org/France-s-secret-war-against-the

français عربي Deutsch

During the assault on the rebel stronghold in the Homs district of Bab Amr, the Syrian army took more than 1,500 prisoners, mostly foreigners. Of these, a dozen French nationals requested the status of prisoner of war, refusing to give their identity, rank and unit of assignment. One of them is a Colonel working for the DGSE transmission service.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: All (#55)

Chief Judge Richard Cebull, a George W. Bush appointee to the federal district court in Montana, admitted yesterday to sending a racist email forward comparing President Obama’s conception to sex with a dog:

“A little boy said to his mother; ‘Mommy, how come I’m black and you’re white?’” the email joke reads. “His mother replied, ‘Don’t even go there Barack! From what I can remember about that party, you’re lucky you don’t bark!’” [...]

Cebull said his brother initially sent him the email, which he forwarded to six of his “old buddies” and acquaintances.

He admitted that he read the email and intended to send it to his friends.

“The only reason I can explain it to you is I am not a fan of our president, but this goes beyond not being a fan,” Cebull said. “I didn’t send it as racist, although that’s what it is. I sent it out because it’s anti-Obama.“

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: All (#56)

A 25-point gap now separates supporters and opponents of marriage equality in California, with 59 percent of residents backing same-sex marriage and just 34 percent opposing it, a new Field survey finds. This represents “the largest margin of support for the issue in the three-plus decades the Field Poll has been asking the question”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   9:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: mcgowanjm (#57)

This represents “the largest margin of support for the issue in the three-plus decades the Field Poll has been asking the question”

This will throw A K into a tizzy.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-01   9:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: All (#57) (Edited)

These people are clueless.....they are your leaders.....8D

"Which route will Israel choose?

It will go over Syria. There would be hell to pay if Israel went over Turkey or Jordan. If the Saudis “permitted” it, the Iranians would retaliate by assassinating Saudis all over the world. So it will be Syria. This is especially true as the country is in chaos today.

Will Syria attempt to shoot down Israeli aircraft flying over its territory?

Yes, it has surface-to-air capability and it also has MiG-23 and MiG-27 fighters. The Israelis will escort their bombers over Syria with their F16s. These fighters will wipe out anything that Syria puts up. The ground-based defenses are old, and no doubt, poorly manned these days.

1) Russia is right next to it's Syrian Counterparts with these S-300 Systems.

1a)Russia from it's base in Tartarus, plus contacts in the Pentagon/WH will know the instant Israel Launches.

2)Syria is not in trouble from it's 'war with hillary's State Dept Mercs. Being encircled and rounded up as I type.

3) Most importantly of All, Iran will KNOW that Israel is coming. From Over a 1000 miles away.

3a)They will be ready....;}

4) Note how the Above casually dismiss Iraq Airspace as a hindrance? That going over Jordan will have 'more hell to pay' than going over Iraq?

Like the Tsar of Russia July 1914...just clueless.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   10:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: All (#59) (Edited)

"As of today, Israel “officially” has only thirty of these bunker bombs. It has a total of 100 F15 attack bombers, so it needs more bombs to fully utilize their strike capability. Look for a sign on this. If the US agrees to supply more bombs, the timing is close"...8D

The LULZ here is that somehow the USSA thinks these diplomatic niceties of looking somewhere, aNywhere but at Israel when it attacks will absolve it of any War making v Iran.

Iran will immediately attack the USSA and it's infrastructure.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   10:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: All (#60) (Edited)

THIS is when you get the ' no one could've predicted this' spontaneous street uprisings in Amerika...

" Unbelievable Stress of Making "Only" $200,000 After Taxes

People who have nothing to eat, no job, and are about to be tossed out of their homes in foreclosure, really do not know what stress is.

To fully appreciate stress, please consider the sorry "plights" of Andrew Schiff, marketing director for Euro Pacific Capital, Daniel Arbeeny, a Wall Street headhunter, and hedge-fund manager Richard Scheiner....

“People who don’t have money don’t understand the stress,” said Alan Dlugash, a partner at accounting firm Marks Paneth & Shron LLP in New York who specializes in financial planning for the wealthy. “Could you imagine what it’s like to say I got three kids in private school, I have to think about pulling them out? How do you do that?”

Wall Street’s cash bonus pool fell by 14 percent last year to $19.7 billion, the lowest since 2008, according to projections by New York state Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli.

“It’s a disaster,” said Ilana Weinstein, chief executive officer of New York-based search firm IDW Group LLC.

LMFAO 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   10:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: All (#61)

And per Bloomberg, the most important news of the day:

Greece Default SWAPS Don’t Have to Pay: ISDA By Abigail Moses - Mar 1, 2012 9:01 AM CT

To ReCap:

The USSA can create $1.7+ Quadrillion in Debt derivatives including the Trillions in Debt Default Insurance and then, when the Financial House burns, the 'Insurance Agencies' don't have to pay off.....LMFAO

That'll fix everything....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   10:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Fred Mertz (#58)

This will throw A K into a tizzy.

Yes, the establishment will counter-attack and use any means to remain in power and control but their days are numbered. Like Goebbels and the Berlin propaganda in early 1945, they can still issue proclamations, enact decrees and frighten the citizens but soon a large enough percentage of the electorate will know the truth. The emperor has no clothes and the rulers as well as the power elites hiding behind the scenes are frightened....

very frightened. And listening to the likes of Gen McCaffrey and his ilk.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-01   11:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: mcgowanjm (#63)

Yes, the establishment will counter-attack and use any means to remain in power and control but their days are numbered.

How many days?

And how many days until the Gulf Coast evacuation?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-17   9:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#64)

Yes, the establishment will counter-attack and use any means to remain in power and control but their days are numbered.

How many days?

And how many days until the Gulf Coast evacuation?

Thanx, A K.

I have a hard time finding this thread....

Macondo still leaking oil.

USbpecocide still ongoing.

didn't bother posting Chevron Pascagoula oil spill cause pretty much everything's been ruined there already.

Kinda like Nigeria....;}

bp will pay, there will be no evacs from anywhere ever again...;}

Going Non Linear at anytime now.

But this is Planet Hell....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   9:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: A K A Stone (#64)

How many days?

And how many days until the Gulf Coast evacuation?

If we're not evacuating from Fukushima....;}

"Our forefathers must be turning over in their graves right now to know that a British company can come over here and recklessly and blatantly pillage our Gulf, ruin it, and then try to play technicality games to get out of having to pay!! Why do I even have to write this letter to begin with? Where is the justice? Where is the justice for the 11 men who died on the rig? Where is the justice for my friend, my family, and the wildlife??

Want to go back to talkin' about those poor fetuses now?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   10:01:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: All (#66)

See, the problem is that once you've gone ignorant, you don't know what to pay attention to anymore.

You can start paying attention, but it's painful at first. Just like an addict in withdrawal.

Just the way the USSA likes it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   10:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: A K A Stone (#64)

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BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA...so this is like our own little private massage board now, eh A K?

LMFAO

Here. Taste this...

img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7Ys_zk...2-03-15+at+8.40.34+AM.png This time next year below $40....but more expensive than ever.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   10:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: All (#68)

So, no real money was handed over, no cries of pain from Berlin, no let-up in the ‘Greece is dead’ leaks by the IMF, no political kudos seen by Venizelos in staying to take the credit for Greek salvation, no action by Athens on the i’s and t’s of the Brussels Accord, and no accusations from the Troika about that. But a concerted push for Berlin to get a firm grip on the eurogroup.

That all adds up, I think, to something both nasty and imminent..."

Planet Hell....and God doesn't have to send us anywhere. We're already there....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   10:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: All (#40)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   10:51:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: All (#70)

Note the dates above:

December 02 ramping up the Invasion of Iraq...discomfort in the chest area...

and May 05 PO.....'massive stroke' begins.... :twisted:

So, no real money was handed over, no cries of pain from Berlin, no let-up in the ‘Greece is dead’ leaks by the IMF, no political kudos seen by Venizelos in staying to take the credit for Greek salvation, no action by Athens on the i’s and t’s of the Brussels Accord, and no accusations from the Troika about that. But a concerted push for Berlin to get a firm grip on the eurogroup.

That all adds up, I think, to something both nasty and imminent.

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

The flailing of the dinosaur tail as the USSA flatlines.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   10:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Evacuation from three well bp blow out

The discrepancies pertain to verbal claims that exposure to COREXIT, the dispersant selected by BP and approved by the EPA to treat the oil, was safe, and the health problems actually associated with COREXIT listed in a BP manual.

So despite the fact that BP officials knew the severe health risks tied to Corexit, they told cleanup workers they had absolutely nothing to fear from the dispersant.

The company manual exposes BP’s complete and utter disregard for the safety of cleanup crews that spent months working the waters in the spring and summer of 2010. This key piece of evidence may very well provide the impetus for sick cleanup workers – many of them commercial fishermen and charter boat captains – to opt out of the $7.8 billion class settlement and to sue BP on an individual basis.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   12:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone (#0)

DATELINE March 17 2011:

More from the GAP report:

The manual lists symptoms of exposure, such as damage to the central nervous system, chemical pneumonia, upper respiratory problems and injury to the kidney, liver or red blood cells (hemolysis). Further, the manual recognizes that crude oil contains benzene and other hazardous chemicals that can cause cancer.

People are sick and dying all along the Gulf Coast. We have a serious situation on our hands that has been largely overlooked by the national media and our elected officials in Washington. "

www.stuarthsmith.com/bp-r...exit-posed-no-health-risk

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   12:13:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: A K Stone, All (#73)

“I have terrible chest pain, at times I can’t seem to get enough oxygen, and I’m constantly tired with pains all over my body,” Aguinaga explained, “At times I’m pissing blood, vomiting dark brown stuff, and every pore of my body is dispensing water.” Aguinaga’s health has been in dramatic decline.

And Aguinaga’s friend Vallian is now dead.

“After we got back from our vacation in Florida, Merrick went to work for a company contracted by BP to clean up oil in Grand Isle, Louisiana,” Aguinaga said of his 33-year-old physically fit friend.

“Aside from some gloves, BP provided no personal protection for them. He worked for them for two weeks and then died on August 23. He had just got his first paycheck, and it was in his wallet, uncashed, when he died.”

Tragically, there are thousands of accounts just like that of Steven Aguinaga. ....;}

Birng up the Gulf and USbpecocide again....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   12:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: All (#74) (Edited)

The BP manual states that COREXIT is a chronic and acute health hazard under EPA standards, and its toxicity is so severe that special protective equipment and clothing are necessities. But LEAN and GAP have received numerous reports that when cleanup workers sought additional safety equipment, such as respirators donated by LEAN, they were threatened with termination.....

Here’s the link to both the bombshell BP manual and the GAP/LEAN letter:

www.whistleblower.org/act...-coast/bp-resource-manual

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-17   12:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: mcgowanjm (#67)

See, the problem is that once you've gone ignorant, you don't know what to pay attention to anymore.

You can start paying attention, but it's painful at first. Just like an addict in withdrawal.

Just the way the USSA likes it.

There is some kind of code among conservatives that sez you will not criticize the oil industry in any way, shape or form. It's like if you do then it means you hate Nascar, 'rugged individualism' and Bubbas.

If only they could find a founder or two that owned a well or a tar pit, that was used for more than axle grease!

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-17   12:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: mcgowanjm (#65)

I have a hard time finding this thread....

google "mcgowanjm wire"

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-17   14:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: A K A Stone (#77)

I have a hard time finding this thread....

google "mcgowanjm wire"

That this thread is for me and I have/had a hard time finding it,

tells me all I need to know.

That I have to go out to google to get back in here and then....

that what I post is not 'displayed'....;}

So the point of Mcgowanjm Wire is what?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-18   8:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: mcgowanjm (#78)

That I have to go out to google to get back in here and then....

that what I post is not 'displayed'....;}

So the point of Mcgowanjm Wire is what?

You think the only way to find it is through google? Some people don't use bookmarks and use google to find anything. lol. You can bookmark it too though.

I thought the purpose of the "wire" was so you could document the happenings in the world from your unique perspective.

Take it or leave it doesn't matter to me.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-18   8:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: mcgowanjm (#78)

Also everything you post here in on topic. Sometimes your other posts not so much.

For example a thread about confessing about voting for Obama. You post "In an interview with the Chicago Tribune, Ken Griffin, founder of the hedge fund Citadel was asked if he thought rich people had too great of an influence on politics. " Which has absolutely nothing to do with the thread. Why do you do that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-18   8:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: A K A Stone (#80)

Because you and yours, just like every apologist for the Top 400, can never ever look farther into the past than the Day After your proxy was thrown out.

That USSA's history of failure started with Obama even when from

November 2008

I've made a special point of showing the Finance/Military White House positions are non negotiable. Whichever 'party's' involved.

Yet, threads like this are put up to show that Obama is the sole reason that the USSA's goin' down the tubes.

That Big Oil, the Banksters, and Israel only want the best for the avg Amerikan and the truth couldn't be further away from that premise.....that's why.

Now maybe you can tell me why you started Mcgowan Wire and then made it impossible to find w/o going out to Google, and then

when found the commments are not displayed....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-18   8:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: A K A Stone (#79)

I thought the purpose of the "wire" was so you could document the happenings in the world from your unique perspective.

Take it or leave it doesn't matter to me.

You mean like some kind of private diary?

Got one already. Thanx.

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-18   8:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: A K A Stone (#79)

I thought the purpose of the "wire" was so you could document the happenings in the world from your unique perspective.

The purpose was for me to show you the relevancy of my posts.

To tie them together, put a bow on them, and then spoon feed you with it.

Help you along on your re education.

Still is really.

I guess you just want a private tutorial?

"76. To: mcgowanjm (#67)

See, the problem is that once you've gone ignorant, you don't know what to pay attention to anymore.

You can start paying attention, but it's painful at first. Just like an addict in withdrawal.

Just the way the USSA likes it.

There is some kind of code among conservatives that sez you will not criticize the oil industry in any way, shape or form. It's like if you do then it means you hate Nascar, 'rugged individualism' and Bubbas.

If only they could find a founder or two that owned a well or a tar pit, that was used for more than axle grease!

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

Mininggold gets it....;}

BTW, still want to talk about the disaster that is the USbpEcocide?

How about the ChevronOwningTransocean debacle down in Brazil?

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-18   8:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: All (#40)

while today’s Republican presidential candidates reject evidence that humans are responsible for the warming of the earth.....;}

Morning, A K

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-19   8:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: All (#84) (Edited)

What strikes me most forcefully about the metastasizing attacks on women's health and reproductive rights by male Republican legislators is the sheer mean-spirited hostility, not to say hatred, that it reveals.

Now, the men proposing these laws, and in many cases enacting them, are for the most part married. They have wives, who are using birth control medications. They have daughters who are using birth control medications. They have sons whose wives and partners are using birth control medications. And yet, like Rush Limbaugh, who once again performs the indispensable function of saying out loud what these men are thinking, they clearly consider women who seek insurance coverage for birth control medications to be sluts and whores. That is their own wives and daughters whom they are describing in that manner.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-19   8:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: All (#85) (Edited)

Gasoline at $3.83 now.

I find it very unlikely that we would see hyperinflation (as opposed to, perhaps, CoL increases in the 10% annual range) before the Ponzi collapses.

The collapse of the Ponzi will be really caused by a freeze up of credit although the idiot media will focus on a plummeting DOW. It is against their religion to analyze with any honesty.

No credit, no gasoline.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-19   8:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: All (#86) (Edited)

Expecting 10 in next 3 days....;}

Last October, the New York Times reported that those who believed the Earth was warming dropped from 79 percent in 2006 to 59 percent. However, a month later polling experts blamed this decline on a collapse in media coverage and pollsters’ deeply flawed questions.

3 types of denial:

* A literal denial is: “the assertion that something did not happen or is not true.”

* With an interpretive denial, the basic facts are not denied, however, “…they are given a different meaning from what seems apparent to others.” People recognize that something is happening but that it’s good for us.

* Implicatory denial “covers the multitude of vocabularies, justifications, rationalizations, evasions that we use to deal with our awareness of so many images of unmitigated suffering.” Here, “knowledge itself is not an issue. The genuine challenge is doing the ‘right’ thing with this knowledge.”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-19   8:49:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: mcgowanjm (#81)

Now maybe you can tell me why you started Mcgowan Wire and then made it impossible to find w/o going out to Google, and then

when found the commments are not displayed....;}

If you click on [Full Thread] at the bottom of this page you'll be able to see all the replies/comments.

I believe the default here shows 40 max replies. You can also punch [Page Up] or [Page Down] if you like. I prefer the [Full Thread] choice.

You're welcome...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-19   9:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: mcgowanjm (#84)

while today’s Republican presidential candidates reject evidence that humans are responsible for the warming of the earth

What evidence?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-19   11:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: A K A Stone (#89)

What evidence?

You are too funny.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-19   11:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: lucysmom (#90)

What evidence?

You are too funny.

What evidence is there that man effects the weather? There is none.

The earth used to be warmer. That is why there is plant life frozen under Antarctica. There is no question the earth used to be warmer then today or that wouldn't be frozen. The only question is why was it colder. I think it was because of the flood in the Bible. We are just coming out of the ice age still. Hence frozen north and south pole.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-19   11:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: A K A Stone (#91)

What evidence is there that man effects the weather? There is none.

If you're new to the climate debate (or are of the mind that there's no evidence for man-made global warming), a good starting point is 10 Indicators of Global Warming which lays out the evidence that warming is happening and the follow-up article, 10 Human Fingerprints on Climate Change which lays out the evidence that humans are the cause. More detail is available in empirical evidence that humans are causing global warming. Contrary to what you may have heard, the case for man-made global warming doesn't hang on models or theory - it's built on direct measurements of many different parts of the climate, all pointing to a single, coherent answer.

www.skepticalscience.com/Newcomers-Start-Here.html

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-19   20:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: A K A Stone (#89)

while today’s Republican presidential candidates reject evidence that humans are responsible for the warming of the earth

What evidence?

That there's ANyone in the GOP race that has said 'humans are responsible for the warming of the earth'.....

OOOOooooOOOH....you mean what evidence Do I have that your religion is correct on humans not being able to destroy the environment/climate and that what's happening now,

like 15 inches of rain last night in Tulsa,

is normal....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:10:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone, All (#90)

Perhaps sparked by global warming denier Jim Inhofe’s recent appearance on the Rachel Maddow Show, Baldwin launched a series of tweets attacking Inhofe:

* Is there a bigger oil whore alive than Jim Inhofe?

* Is there a bigger climate change denier than Jim Inhofe? (Retweeted response to first tweet.)

* We have to get rid of Inhofe in 2014 … he’ll be 79

* We need to have Inhofe retire to a solar-powered gay bar.

* Oil Whore Jim Inhofe has betrayed every man and woman who lost their livelihood on the Gulf due to BP’s overwhelming negligence…

Baldwin’s emails are creating a form of backlash on twitter and elsewhere.

climatechangepsychology.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: All (#94)

| POISONED WEATHER: CATASTROPHIC FLOODING ALERT IN HEARTLAND |

“Widespread and potentially catastrophic areal flooding and river flooding is expected this afternoon through Wednesday morning in Eastern Oklahoma, Western Arkansas, Western Louisiana, and Southwest Missouri, warns the National Weather Service in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in their latest flood watch for the region.” Weather Underground’s Jeff Masters reports.

“Damaging winds, large hail, flash flooding, and few strong tornadoes are expected to affect the area late this afternoon. ” “The ongoing March heat wave in the Midwest is one of the most extreme heat events in U.S. history.” He adds:

“While the blocking pattern responsible for the heat wave is natural, it is very unlikely that the intensity of the heat would have been so great unless we were in a warming climate.”

Forecasters warn of flash flooding in Ark., Okla. - NewsOn6.com ...

www.newson6.com/.../forec...lash-flooding-in-ark-okla

1 hour ago – NewsOn6.com - Tulsa, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports ... Forecasters say up to 12 inches of rain is possible in isolated areas. The rain ...

Notice how 10 Plus inch rainfalls are getting to be normal?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:21:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: All (#95)

“The ongoing March heat wave in the Midwest is one of the most extreme heat events in U.S. history.”

# Chicago's March heat wave rolls on: Five straight days of record ...

Chicago Tribune‎ - 1 day ago

Chicago hit another record high today when the thermometer hit 75 degrees at noon at O'Hare, continuing a streak of five days of record highs in an ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: All (#96)

#

# Capital Weather Gang - The inside scoop on D.C., Maryland and ...

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang

16 hours ago – @capitalweather Weather news, information, and witty banter .... The longevity of the heat is as impressive as its intensity: temperatures have run some 20 ... Cherry blossoms begin to bloom at the Tidal Basin, March 16, 2012.

And this is just the start.

Arctic ice free this Summer.

Kansas City will have multiple 100+ degree days.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: All (#97)

It's still Winter:

# Spring Weather In Forecast: Temperatures Expected To Reach 20 ...

www.wgntv.com › WeatherCached

Mar 12, 2012 – Springlike weather is in the forecast for the Chicago area for the next two ... with temperatures expected to reach 20 degrees above normal and with ... Staff report Chicago Breaking News ... Chicago's March heat wave rolls on ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:27:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: All (#98)

Arctic sea-ice (Image: BBC)The Arctic is warming faster than any other region on the planet, data shows Continue reading the main story Related Stories

* Arctic climate 'tech fixes' urged

* Ice 'tipping point' may not occur

* New warning on Arctic ice melt

Researchers have updated HadCRUT - one of the main global temperate records, which dates back to 1850. One of the main changes is the inclusion of more data from the Arctic region, which has experienced one of the greatest levels of warming. The amendments do not change the long-term trend, but the data now lists 2010, rather than 1998, as the warmest year on record. The update is published in the Journal of Geophysical Research.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-20   9:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: All (#40)

Mish wrote: Highest Price Ever of Gasoline in March; State-by-State Gas Price and Gas Tax Comparison Highest Gas Price Recorded in March An ABC consumer report shows Highest Gas Price Recorded in March

As Return on Consumption plummets, consumption plummets.

Note not a word today about Record March Gas prices..... :twisted:

America is rotten to the core.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   11:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: All (#100)

www.theoilage.com/post57665.html#p57665

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin....cgi?an=28205&cn=100&ac=R

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   11:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: All (#101)

wonder how many of the GOP POTUS candidates made money off 9/11.

Answer: All of 'em.

www.larsschall.com/2012/0...-911-the-facts-laid-bare/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   11:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: All (#102)

LawsofPhysics's picture

Isn't the Fed already leveraged 50x? In fact, can we put the Fed's stat's on these charts? Oh wait, that's right no one really knows as a true and complete audit of the Fed has never been done. How long will the rest of the world let this charade continue? That is all that matters.

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin....cgi?an=28205&cn=102&ac=R

Bookmark this site for your viewing pleasure....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   11:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: All (#103)

Israeli violation of Lebanon sovereignty unacceptable: Russia By: Press TV on: 21.03.2012 [06:40 ] (144 reads)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   11:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Fred Mertz (#29)

Amazingly, the act of burning a book will be the death of the Afghan Occupation.

You might want to copyright that quote Jim.

The author Mark H Gaffney commented on this finding of “innocuousness”:

Notice … the commission makes no mention in its footnote of the 36 other companies identified by the SEC in its insider trading probe. What about the pre-9/11 surge in call options for Raytheon, for instance, or the spike in put options for the behemoth Morgan Stanley, which had offices in WTC 2? The 9/11 Commission Report offers not one word of explanation about any of this. The truth, we must conclude, is to be found between the lines in the report’s conspicuous avoidance of the lion’s share of the insider trading issue.

Indeed, if the trading was truly “innocuous”, as the report states, then why did the SEC muzzle potential whistleblowers by deputizing everyone involved with its investigation? The likely answer is that so many players on Wall Street were involved that the SEC could not risk an open process, for fear of exposing the unthinkable. This would explain why the SEC limited the flow of information to those with a “need to know”, which, of course, means that very few participants in the SEC investigation had the full picture.

It would also explain why the SEC ultimately named no names. All of which hints at the true and frightening extent of criminal activity on Wall Street in the days and hours before 9/11. The SEC was like a surgeon who opens a patient on the operating room table to remove a tumor, only to sew him back up again after finding that the cancer has metastasized through the system.

At an early stage of its investigation, perhaps before SEC officials were fully aware of the implications, the SEC did recommend that the FBI investigate two suspicious transactions. We know about this thanks to a 9/11 Commission memorandum declassified in May 2009 which summarizes an August 2003 meeting at which FBI agents briefed the commission on the insider trading issue. The document indicates that the SEC passed the information about the suspicious trading to the FBI on September 21, 2001, just ten days after the 9/11 attacks.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   12:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: All (#105)

Although the names in both cases are censored from the declassified document, thanks to some nice detective work by Kevin Ryan we know whom (in one case) the SEC was referring to. The identity of the suspicious trader is a stunner that should have become prime-time news on every network, world-wide. Kevin Ryan was able to fill in the blanks because, fortunately, the censor left enough details in the document to identify the suspicious party who, as it turns out, was none other than Wirt Walker III, a distant cousin to then-president G W Bush.

Several days before 9/11, Walker and his wife Sally purchased 56,000 shares of stock in Stratesec, one of the companies that provided security at the World Trade Center up until the day of the attacks. Notably, Stratesec also provided security at Dulles International Airport, where AA 77 took off on 9/11, and also security for United Airlines, which owned two of the other three allegedly hijacked aircraft. At the time, Walker was a director of Stratesec. Amazingly, Bush’s brother Marvin was also on the board.

Walker’s investment paid off handsomely, gaining $50,000 in value in a matter of a few days. Given the links to the World Trade Center and the Bush family, the SEC lead should have sparked an intensive FBI investigation. Yet, incredibly, in a mind-boggling example of criminal malfeasance, the FBI concluded that because Walker and his wife had “no ties to terrorism … there was no reason to pursue the investigation.” The FBI did not conduct a single interview. [34]

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   12:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Fred Mertz (#9)

The killer of a US Colonel and Major (and 'two more'?) has telephoned a progress report to the Taliban, who have already put this story on their 'wire'...

The killer is still at large last I heard. What a mess. US advisers are being evacuated from 'safe and secure' buildings.

They never have caught this guy....

kinda like the 9/11 perps...;}

"

As far as the abnormal option trades around 9/11 are concerned, I want to give Max Keiser the last word in order to point out the significance of the story.

Max Keiser: Regardless of who did it, we can know that more than a few had advance warning - the trading in the option market makes that clear.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-21   12:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: mcgowanjm (#106)

The identity of the suspicious trader is a stunner that should have become prime-time news on every network, world-wide. Kevin Ryan was able to fill in the blanks because, fortunately, the censor left enough details in the document to identify the suspicious party who, as it turns out, was none other than Wirt Walker III, a distant cousin to then-president G W Bush.

Thanks, first time I recall this detail coming out.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-21   15:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: All (#40) (Edited)

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi?ArtNum=28794&Disp=2#C2

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   9:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Fred Mertz (#108)

The identity of the suspicious trader is a stunner that should have become prime-time news on every network, world-wide. Kevin Ryan was able to fill in the blanks because, fortunately, the censor left enough details in the document to identify the suspicious party who, as it turns out, was none other than Wirt Walker III, a distant cousin to then-president G W Bush.

Thanks, first time I recall this detail coming out.

That's because it is.

I've been waiting on an article like the above since 9/11.

As a trader there is no such thing as an anonymous trade.

The whole article's an eye opener. No wonder the FBI is trying to fire him, hurt him.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   9:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: A K A Stone, All (#110)

“It is extraordinarily rare for climate locations with 100+ year-long periods of records to break records day after day after day,” the local office of the National Weather Service said in a statement Sunday morning, following a Saint Patrick’s Day that shattered 141 years of records.

And the Windy City is not alone. In International Falls, Minn., which threatened suit when a Colorado city tried to steal its “Nation’s Icebox” moniker, the mercury went to 77 degrees on Saturday — which was 42 degrees above average, and 22 degrees above the old record. It’s possible, according to weather historian Christopher Burt, that no station with a century of weather data has ever broken a mark by that much.

Here’s how Jeff Masters, founder of the website WeatherUnderground and probably the internet’s most widely read meteorologist, put it from his Michigan base:

“As I stepped out of my front door into the pre-dawn darkness from my home I braced myself for the cold shock of a mid-March morning. It didn’t come. A warm, murky atmosphere, with temperatures in the upper fifties — 30 degrees above normal –greeted me instead. Continuous flashes of heat lightning lit up the horizon, as the atmosphere crackled with the energy of distant thunderstorms.

I looked up at the hazy stars above me, flashing in and out of sight as lightning lit up the sky, and thought, this is not the atmosphere I grew up with.”

grist.org/election-2012/a...llinois-no-not-the-polls/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   9:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: All (#111)

The situation in Mali was raised during consultations at the U.N. Security Council on Wednesday, British U.N. Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant said, adding that Council members appealed for calm and “respect for the constitutional order”.

Toure, in power since 2002, has said he is planning after April elections to hand over the reins of a country known for its gold, cotton and a once-flourishing desert tourist industry now undermined by a spate of hostage-takings by al Qaeda allies.

The former paratroop commander overthrew a dictatorship in a 1991 coup and relinquished power a year later before returning to office via the ballot box.

A military source said a trigger for Wednesday’s events was a visit by the defence minister to a barracks in the town of Kati about 20 km (13 miles) north of Bamako.

www.euronews.com/newswire...ttack-palace-in-coup-bid/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   10:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: All (#112)

www.dallasgasprices.com/

$3.69 and you have to do a little hunting....;}

Unhappy public not sure who to blame for high gas - Boston.com www.boston.com/.../unhapp..._sure_who_to_blame_for_...

1 hour ago – A Gallup poll this month found 85 percent of U.S. adults believe the president and Congress "should take immediate actions to try to control the rising price of gas." An Associated Press-GfK poll last month showed 71 percent believe gas ... In truth, there is not a lot the president and Congress can do in the ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   10:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: All (#113)

Fukushima/Japan

* Report: Plutonium ratio 200 times higher than gov't claims, professor surprised …

* Reactor No. 2 temperature near 80°C -- Up almost 20°C in a week (CHART)

* Asahi: Japan schools required to "promote the use of nuclear power" -- Not allow…

* Fukushima hit by M5.0, M4.8, and M4.6 in last few hours -- Two at nearly identic…

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   10:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Fred Mertz, All (#114)

Drug lords targeted by Fast and Furious were FBI informants Federal agents released alleged gun trafficker Manuel Fabian Celis-Acosta to help them find two Mexican drug lords. But the two were secret FBI informants, emails show.

Looking forward to more fast &furious ATF/ICE handiwork...;}

And BTW, we never did hear anymore about that gun fight in LA's ICE Buraeu....;}

"By Richard A. Serrano, Washington Bureau

March 21, 2012, 5:39 p.m. Reporting from Washington— When the ATF made alleged gun trafficker Manuel Fabian Celis-Acosta its primary target in the ill-fated Fast and Furious investigation, it hoped he would lead the agency to two associates who were Mexican drug cartel members. The ATF even questioned and released him knowing that he was wanted by the Drug Enforcement Administration.

But those two drug lords were secretly serving as informants for the FBI along the Southwest border, newly obtained internal emails show.

www.latimes.com/news/nati...-20120322,0,3334424.story

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-22   10:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: mcgowanjm (#115)

But those two drug lords were secretly serving as informants for the FBI along the Southwest border, newly obtained internal emails show.

Holy guacamole!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-22   11:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: mcgowanjm (#111)

“It is extraordinarily rare for climate locations with 100+ year-long periods of records to break records day after day after day,”

I'm loving this warm weather. Good for the crops. I may put my garden out a month early this year.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   7:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Good Morning, A K A

#7. To: Skip Intro (#6)

There is no such thing as climate change; evolution is a lie; Obama is a Kenyan Marxist who took 2.5 years to forge his long form birth certificate; gunning down an unarmed black man is a Constitutional Right; never-ending war is good.

All of the above has been brought to you courtesy of the Republican Party, and they're just getting started.

In a nutshell...

So 20 years from now we'll find that all these Republican debates were secretly funded by the Obama campaign, code-named "Give them enough rope".

Robin posted on 2012-03-22 16:21:53 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   9:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: All (#118)

And it was even funnier when those same working and middle class Americans were asked to fork over $700 billion of their tax money to save the very same financial institutions, including Goldman Sachs, from their own bad acts.

And goddam if isn't just hysterical that NO ONE from Goldman Sachs has been prosecuted for all of this rampant fraud and that they continued to receive millions of dollars in bonuses even after the taxpayer bailouts.

I'm sure the 46 million people on food stamps, the numerous college graduates with six-figure student loan debts who can't find a decent job, the retirees whose pensions are being gutted, the underwater homeowners and the increasingly desperate wage earners whose 401K accounts have been bouncing up and down like a yo-yo are laughing their asses off right along with you.-billhicksisdead

Capitalism, he said, "has conjured up such gigantic means of production and of exchange, that it is like the sorcerer who is no longer able to control the powers of the nether world whom he has called up by his spells".-Karl the Man Marx

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   9:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: All (#119)

As Spain follows Greece (but not any of that 'austerity' shite, muchas gracias...;}

"‘Spain is already in as bad a shape as Greece. And it hasn’t begun any significant austerity measures yet. Having seen what austerity has done to Greece (Greek GDP shrank 6.8% in 2011 AFTER Greece received bailouts equal to 57% of its GDP), Spain is much less likely to opt for the bailout/ austerity measure program.The significance of this is HUGE. ..."

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   9:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: All (#120)

And Spain has nothing on us. Our soon to be un employed students with 5 figure debt weights strapped to their backs, to the tune of $1 Trillion.....;}

"According to the Bank of International Settlements worldwide exposure to Spain is north of $1 TRILLION with Great Britain on the hook for $51 billion, the US on the hook for $187 billion, France on the hook for $224 billion and Germany on the hook for a whopping $244 billion…’ (ZH)

Yesterday, I posted about Berlin’s exit preparations.

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   9:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: All (#121)

Hey! I've got an idea!

Let's pretend that Israel's not our colony and let them help us commit suicide...

Then it won't really be our fault that our Empire went tit's up...;}

"“As far as I am concerned, I do not harbor the slightest doubt that the United States is about to commit, and lead the world toward, the greatest error in its history,” he added.Castro said Washington is wrong to think that Iranians in the country’s Armed Forces, who are known for their religious principles and fighting traditions, will surrender to the US without shooting a bullet." --

Fidel El Hombre Castro.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   9:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: mcgowanjm, *Ron Paul for President* (#121)

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

Geeze, even the commie propaganda has been outsourced to foreign nations.

Can't you find an American Marxist site?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-03-23   9:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: A K A Stone (#117)

I'm loving this warm weather. Good for the crops. I may put my garden out a month early this year.

Yep. Climate change will feel good in the winter.

Like Phoenix....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: hondo68 (#123)

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

Geeze, even the commie propaganda has been outsourced to foreign nations.

Can't you find an American Marxist site?

You need to read him.

He's a Tory apologist.

Would bow before the queen if she deigned to recognize him...

that sorta bloke.

And a commie site made in the USSA would be Forbes.

Cause the Commies in the USSA are the Top 1%. The Bottom 99% get the Free Markets....;}

Soon you can pretend you live in India....

'That’s why in a nation of 1.2 billion, India’s 100 richest people own assets equivalent to one-fourth of the GDP...'

The Waltons own more than the Bottom 100 million Amerikans.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#125)

'That’s why in a nation of 1.2 billion, India’s 100 richest people own assets equivalent to one-fourth of the GDP...'

The Waltons own more than the Bottom 100 million Amerikans.

That's because you have people like Stone putting their local businesses out of business for a 5% discount.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-23   10:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: A K A Stone (#17)

What more do you have on this battle?

#

# Syrian rebels outgunned, struggling for supplies - Yahoo! News

http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-reb...g-supplies-205645118.html

2 days ago – Last week, some 200 rebels with light arms in the Syrian hill village of ... outside Syria, said rebels had recently looted weapons caches in .... My video shows captured Israeli weapons and munitions :"Israel Arms Free Syrian ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: All (#127)

So, once again, the spineless European Union (EU) political "leadership" - once again acting like the poodles of choice - gloriously sabotaged what it has always billed as its most ambitious energy project; caved in to US pressure; and ultimately sacrificed its energy independence. And all this from people who never lose an opportunity to decry that Europe is a "gas hostage" to Russia's Gazprom.

As with all things Pipelineistan, there are layers and layers of nuance. Moscow is pulling out all the stops to prevent Iran from eventually joining Nabucco - because its top policy agenda is to extend its stranglehold over the EU's gas supply to 30%. ...

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/NC23Ag04.html

IMG[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B0vAUz...2-03-23+at+8.27.08+AM.png

The most prominent but false conclusions on the expanding value of oil are centered on assertions that supply is decreasing dramatically, while demand is increasing dramatically. Neither of these claims is true…

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: All (#128)

Even if Azerbaijan decides to sell its extra gas wealth to Russia, Turkey also wins. Turkey has authorized the underwater passage of the Russian-Italian (Vladimir Putin-Silvio Berlusconi?) South Stream pipeline in its territory in return for even more robust trade and energy ties with Russia.

But most of all Russia wins. South Stream is a go. Gazprom for its part has increased its charm offensive all across Central Asia; this means that the more Gazprom imports gas from them, the less gas will be available for Europe (unless it is sold by Russia ...)

With Putin back in the presidency in May, the strategy that he laid out back in 2000 is graphically paying all kinds of dividends. -pepe escobar

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: All (#129)

The leadership in Azerbaijan,

(currently being wined & dined in the USSA courtesy of AIPAC...;}

for instance, knows very well that Russia is the only player capable of determining what goes on in the Caucasus - and on top of it offers great energy deals. So here's the writing on the wall; Russia under Putin will be even more influential from the Caucasus to Central Asia.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: All (#130)

Still the most pressing question seems to be whether anybody in Brussels will wake up from its masochistic haze, stop the sanction nonsense, and talk energy with Iran.

www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/NC23Ag04.html

No. Not until the USSA Afghan effort collapses....this Summer.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:38:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: mcgowanjm (#127)

Thank You for the link.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   10:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: A K A Stone (#132)

You're welcome.

It's not the one I was looking for, which describes Syria capturing a large arms cache yesterday, but it'll do for now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   10:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: All (#133)

"Ironically, stock market activity in the Dow has now come under threat from this inflationary trend in oil. Rising energy costs have essentially put a cap on the epic explosion of equities, and many mainstream analysts now lament over this Catch-22. The problem is that these investors and pundits are operating on the assumption that the Dow bull market is legitimate, and that the rally in oil is somehow an extension of a “healthier economy”. This version of reality, I’m afraid, is about as far from the truth as one can stretch…

In the candy coated world of Obamanomics, high priced stocks are a valid signal of economic growth, and oil is rising due to demand which extends from this growth...."

http://www.alt-market.com/articl...e-oil-conundrum-explained

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   11:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: A K A Stone (#117)

I'm loving this warm weather. Good for the crops. I may put my garden out a month early this year.

Speaking of planting corn:

"

In the study, Andrea Tapparo and colleagues explain that seeds coated with so-called neonicotinoid insecticides went into wide use in Europe in the late 1990s. The insecticides are among the most widely used in the world, popular because they kill insects by paralyzing nerves but have lower toxicity for other animals.

Almost immediately, beekeepers observed large die-offs of bees that seemed to coincide with mid-March to May corn planting. Scientists thought this might be due to particles of insecticide made airborne by the pneumatic drilling machines used for planting.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   11:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Fred Mertz, mininggold, lucysmom, A K A Stone (#0)

News for AAPL halted news

Wall Street Journal

1. Apple trading halted, resumes

Fortune‎ - 7 seconds ago By Philip Elmer-DeWitt March 23, 2012: 11:53 AM ET The hearts of Apple (AAPL) traders stopped briefly at 10:57 am Friday when the company's share price, ...

1.

Apple Trade on Bats Triggers Circuit Breaker; Stock Rebounds Bloomberg‎ - 31 minutes ago

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   11:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: All (#136)

Caused by BATS....

per ZH....

The reason for the crash apparently is because BATS stock is ony trading on the BATS exchange, where apparently the APPL halt second before also happened. Pretty much tells us all we need to know about the stability of broken market structure. In other news, the stock, and exchange, have now been renamed BATShit - perhaps the VVIX can trade there next or something... And they wonder why nobody trades this farce of a market any more.

www.zerohedge.com/news/sk...everyone+drops+to+zero%29

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-23   11:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: mcgowanjm (#137)

I've never owned an apple product. They are inferior.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   12:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: A K A Stone (#138)

Slow day for you Stone?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   13:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: lucysmom (#139)

Slow day for you Stone?

Yes. It is raining today. :(

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   13:50:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: A K A Stone (#140)

Yeah, it looked like you were trying to stir something up.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   13:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: lucysmom (#141)

By saying Apple sucks. They do. They lock down and cripple their products. That Iphone thing is a PC. Do you think Apple should be able to control the programs on your phone? I don't. I think that is crap.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   13:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: A K A Stone (#142)

That Iphone thing is a PC. Do you think Apple should be able to control the programs on your phone? I don't. I think that is crap.

So don't own one.

I love my IPhone. My Apple hating ex-husband just got an IPhone and is in love with it.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   14:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: lucysmom (#143)

I love my IPhone. My Apple hating ex-husband just got an IPhone and is in love with it.

It should be illegal.

That would be like Microsoft saying only microsoft programs can run on their windows operating system.

You shouldn't have to jailbreak your phone.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   14:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: mininggold (#126)

That's because you have people like Stone putting their local businesses out of business for a 5% discount [by shopping at Wally World].

I recently remembered that I received a Wal-Mart gift card for Christmas and it is still sitting in my wallet. I imagine it is of low value - $20 or so bucks - so I'm going to have to break my rule and visit Wally World one of these days when the need arises.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-23   16:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: mcgowanjm (#136)

News for AAPL halted news

I owned AAPL when it was @ $33 a share. Being a genius I sold when it jumped 10 percent in value :(

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-23   16:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: A K A Stone (#144)

You shouldn't have to jailbreak your phone.

I haven't felt the need to do that.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   18:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: lucysmom (#147)

You shouldn't have to jailbreak your phone.

I haven't felt the need to do that.

You do know that limits the phones power don't you. You know having it locked down by Apple. Would you be ok if you could only put a Ford radio in your Ford car?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   19:03:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: A K A Stone (#148)

Would you be ok if you could only put a Ford radio in your Ford car?

If my Ford radio worked as well as my IPhone, why would I want to replace it?

You don't have to buy Apple products.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   19:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: lucysmom (#149)

You don't have to buy Apple products.

Apple is an illegal monopoly. The justice department should go after them like Microsoft.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   19:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: A K A Stone (#150)

Apple is an illegal monopoly.

How is that?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   19:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: lucysmom (#151)

How is that?

They don't allow third party software on their devices without their permission. They also seem to think they still own the Iphone after you purchase it. They are hostile to you modding it. Screw them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   19:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: A K A Stone (#152)

They also seem to think they still own the Iphone after you purchase it.

I many own the phone, however, they own the technology.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   19:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: A K A Stone (#152)

They also seem to think they still own the Iphone after you purchase it.

Are you too young to remember when you couldn't own a phone?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-23   19:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: lucysmom (#153)

I many own the phone, however, they own the technology.

Actually once you buy it it is yours to do what you choose with it. You own that specific hardware/technology. To think otherwise is to think like a slave.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   19:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: lucysmom (#154)

Are you too young to remember when you couldn't own a phone?

I remember you had to rent them from Ma bell. Which my mom said was owned by the mafia. Or something like that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-23   19:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: A K A Stone (#0)

From a March 19 Bloomberg report by Laurel Brubaker Calkins and Margaret Cronin Fisk:

BP Plc’s (BP/) Atlantis platform, its second-largest oil producer in the Gulf of Mexico, should be shut down until it’s proven to comply with U.S. safety and environmental laws, a whistle-blower’s lawyer told a judge.

BP misled U.S. offshore regulators to win operating permits for the platform, located about 150 miles (240 kilometers) south of New Orleans, according to the whistle-blower. The facility produced an average of 60,000 barrels of oil daily last year and is capable of producing as much as 200,000 barrels a day, according to data on London-based BP’s website.

http://www.stuarthsmith.com/another-disaster-in-waiting-whistleblower-calls-for-immediate-shutdown-of-bps-second-largest-gulf-oil-platform-2

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: All (#157)

“Atlantis is presently not fit for service under normal engineering standards,” David Perry, a lawyer for Kenneth Abbott, a former BP contractor, said at a hearing today in federal court in Houston. “We ask the court to take action to oversee remediation to make it fit for service.”

It would seem that BP’s “renewed” commitment to safety and our federal government’s commitment to more rigorous oversight – on the heels of the worst oil spill in U.S. history – are being exposed as a fraud. We’re getting a look behind the scenes at another BP operation, and what is being revealed is frightening indeed. The jig appears to be up, again. More from the Bloomberg report:

Perry told [U.S. District Judge Lynn] Hughes there’s a specific pressure-relief valve “that is protecting a 16-inch pipeline” connecting Atlantis to shore and “that is undersized by a factor of 20 to 1.” A failure in that valve “could cause catastrophe at any time,” Perry said.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom (#150)

You don't have to buy Apple products.

Apple is an illegal monopoly. The justice department should go after them like Microsoft.

Every Corporation moves to monopoly as a natural life cycle.

Then they die.

W/in a decade.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: A K A Stone, lucysmom, All (#159)

bp going down as I type:

"…Abbott, who worked as an engineering documentation supervisor on Atlantis, testified before the U.S. Congress in June 2010 that almost 90 percent of the facility’s design and construction drawings weren’t approved by licensed professional engineers, as required by regulators. BP lied to regulators about its engineering certifications to obtain operating permits for the platform, Abbott’s lawyers said in a March 15 filing.

According to Mr. Abbott, a valve failure on the Atlantis could result in a spill that would “dwarf” the size of the 200-million-gallon Macondo release.

Mr. Perry pointed out in the hearing yesterday that the engineering issues aboard the Atlantis are pervasive and he cited past “well-control lapses.” More from Bloomberg:

Perry said today that a BP “service and operations audit,’ which is under seal in the case, showed that 150 of 500 pressure relief valves on Atlantis never received proper sizing calculations to determine if they were the right size. Some of the valves were “under-sized by very large amounts,” Perry said."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: All (#160) (Edited)

…Atlantis has already experienced multiple well-control lapses, during which subsea well valves opened and closed on their own and platform operators temporarily lost the ability to control some wells, Perry said today. Abbott has accused BP of hiding this information from Interior Department regulators to keep production flowing from Atlantis.

Although the allegations were first leveled in 2009, the same dangerous situation exists today. Nothing has been done to rectify the problems, leading Mr. Abbott to ask Judge Hughes “to move quickly to halt production and appoint a special master to oversee measures to ensure the platform is brought into compliance.”

http://www.stuarthsmith.com/anot...rgest-gulf-oil-platform-2

www.businessweek.com/news...ntis-in-gulf-of-mexico#p2

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: All (#161)

Next Cat 5 in the GOM/South LA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-24   12:16:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Sunday, March 25, 2012

NEW EVIDENCE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST

Former Vice-President Dick Cheney just received a heart transplant, after waiting two years for a donor.

Posted by Robert Paul Wolff at 5:30 AM

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-25   9:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Good Morning, Viet Nam!!! ;}

"I asked that the multiracial left have more empathy for working class whites, and stop stereotyping them and dismissing their political choices, when we disagree, as merely “racist.”

I got your empathy....takin real good care of it...;}

Monday, March 26, 2012 AccuWeather's Excuse For A Horribly Blown Seasonal Forecast: The Tsunami Did It

" A meteorologist for AccuWeather — the forecasting company that predicted a winter so bad, "people in Chicago are going to want to move" — has a theory for the recent Midwest heat wave: Japanese tsunami debris."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   8:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Fred Mertz, All (#164)

" "The common sense of mankind demands that law shall not stop with the punishment of petty crimes by little people. It must also reach men who possess themselves of great power and make deliberative and concerted use of it to set in motion evils which leave no home in the world untouched."

America's bound by the same standard under fundamental US and international laws. But they're not applied. Mestrovic exposed the "systemic dysfunctions in the army as well as American society." As a result, innocent victims pay for their superiors' crimes.

In violation of international and US law, as well as the Army's own code, brigade commander, Col. Michael Steele, illegally ordered troops to kill every military-aged Iraqi on sight. Disobedience would have brought court-martials and likely imprisonment."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   8:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: All (#165)

See ? Here's the problem with AgitProp.

Making it look 'real' can interfere with the message.

Like the USSA Military had to move it's forces before the Kony tape was released.

And now tha the Kony tape has been ridiculed, it's 'author' thrown in the loony bin...

the USSA military Still has to folloow the script, now looking like a bad Monty Python skit....;}

" “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality, judiciously, as you will, we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors, and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” - Ron Suskind, NYT, Oct 17 2004

African Union launches US-backed force to hunt Kony Reuters, Mar 24 2012

The African Union, backed by the US, has put together a 5,000-strong military force to hunt down fugitive warlord Joseph Kony, whose profile has shot up following a celebrity-backed campaign against him.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   8:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: All (#166)

"Too few people have experienced the divine image as the inner-most possession of their own souls. Christ only meets them from without, never from within the soul; that is why dark paganism still reigns there, a paganism which, now in a form so blatant that it can no longer be denied and now in all too threadbare disguise, is swamping the world of so-called Christian culture. his pagan unconscious, which has also influenced our literature and art, is clearly expressed in dreams long before it becomes apparent in action."

Can you imagine the Agit Prop artists at the CIA trying to make sense of the above? 9D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   8:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Notice how LF has dropped EVERYTHING to concentrate on the uppity minorities?

The Domestic mirrors the foreign:

"Karzai also spoke to Mullah Baran. Baran’s brother was killed in the shooting spree, but he didn’t see the shooting happen. Baran said he told Karzai what his sister-in-law, who was at the scene, had told him.

When GlobalPost asked Baran to speak directly with his sister-in-law, he initially refused.

“You don’t need to talk [with] her,” Baran said. “I did, and I can tell you the story.”

Eventually Baran relented, allowing GlobalPost to interview her by phone.

Massouma, who lives in the neighboring village of Najiban, where 12 people were killed, said she heard helicopters fly overhead as a uniformed soldier entered her home. She said he flashed a “big, white light,” and yelled, “Taliban! Taliban! Taliban!”

Massouma said the soldier shouted “walkie-talkie, walkie-talkie.” The rules of engagement in hostile areas in Afghanistan permit US soldiers to shoot Afghans holding walkie-talkies because they could be Taliban spotters."

You can't make that shit up.....;}

"The whole point of Jesus’s life was not that we should become exactly like him, but that we should become ourselves in the same way he became himself. Jesus is not the great exception but the great example.

—Carl Jung as quoted by Rob Brezsny in Pronoia (via fernsandmoss)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   9:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: All (#168)

The Empire's gonna have to do another False Flag.

Can cheney get out of bed yet?

Is Poppy available?

"Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:31 PM

CDS Quotes On New Greek Bonds On Hold; Last CDS and 1-Year Bond Quote on March 9

New Greek bonds are priced at roughly 22 cents on the dollar. Simply put, the market expects yet another credit event. Yet try buying CDS protection on the new Greek bonds. You can't.

The Financial Times reports Greek yields up as CDS trading put on hold.........

globaleconomicanalysis.bl...conomic+Trend+Analysis%29

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   9:32:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: All (#40) (Edited)

Greek CDS prices were last quoted on March 9, when a buyer of protection would have had to pay $7.8m up front to insure $10m of debt against default.

Markit, the data provider, said it needed at least three global banks to give it prices for Greek CDS before it could continue to quote them.

Did you catch that? The last quote was $7.8m up front to insure $10m of debt against default. We are talking about a near certain default on the new bonds.

globaleconomicanalysis.bl...conomic+Trend+Analysis%29

I just did a check on Bloomberg. The last quote on a 1-year Greek bond shows the yield is 1,143%. The date of the quote is March 9th, the last date CDS was quoted.

But hey, Greece is saved. Doesn't everyone know?

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   10:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

#

# Retirement at Risk: 3 of 10 Have Less than $1000 Saved nj1015.com/nj-residents-s...r-retirement-audio/Cached

If you haven't started saving for retirement, you're not alone. A study ... Benefit Research Institute finds that a majority of workers have less than $25000 in savings. ... About 30% of these respondents said they have less than $1000 in savings.

So, some back of the napkin math says that

30% of 140 million workers (=47 million) have $1000.

50 million are on food stamps.

That's a 1/3 of the USSA right there. And worse,

that's almost 100 million ADULTS. And that does not account for college students with 41 Trillion in non dischargeable debt. College kids can not get food stamps. We're so fucked.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   10:40:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: All (#171)

While the criminal SCOTUS thinks it's still got some kind of sway over the system.

See Health Care Oral Arguements not to be publicized....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   10:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: mcgowanjm (#171)

And that does not account for college students with 41 Trillion in non dischargeable debt. College kids can not get food stamps. We're so fucked.

And most will only qualify for a civil service job when they graduate anyway. At the price one has to pay for auto mechanics, plumbers and electricians nowadays it's better to go to trade school.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-26   10:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: mininggold (#173)

At the price one has to pay for auto mechanics, plumbers and electricians nowadays it's better to go to trade school.

I know plumbers are doing very well.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-26   11:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"Everything that Richard Nixon did to me, for which he faced impeachment and prosecution, which led to his resignation, is now legal under the Patriot Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, and the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA)." Daniel Ellsberg.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   14:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: lucysmom (#174)

I know plumbers are doing very well.

My second trade after

the GED job got whacked by the Huckster....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   14:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: mcgowanjm, cz82 (#175)

"Everything that Richard Nixon did to me, for which he faced impeachment and prosecution, which led to his resignation, is now legal under the Patriot Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, and the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA)." Daniel Ellsberg.

Interesting thouthg. Sounds true.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-26   14:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Debt itself has become the obsession du jour: the problem is not the sufficiency of debt or even its costs but the defective structure within which debt subsidizes profitless waste. We love our waste, it makes us feel human: right now the world’s economies are at the point where debt can just barely stretch to fill the waste gap. We can just barely afford the costs of the debt, provided we put to use every sort of extraordinary tactic to manage them. We add more debt, we borrow our way out of it, we shuffle it around: running faster and faster to remain in one place.

Debts can be managed this way only because the state can always run faster: as long as there is a marginal return somewhere within the debt-y universe the system will continue to lend to itself ever-larger nominal amounts. Unfortunately, the real capital that the debt is supposed to represent diminishes while the claims made against capital increase. The efforts to manage debt by ‘renewing’ it become counterproductive. Adding debt becomes another form of waste with costs that cannot be met.

The only presidential candidate who has vowed to axe the NDAA provisions is Ron Paul. If you support any other candidate, ask why they are supporting the gutting of the Bill of Rights under the Orwellian umbrella of GWOT (global war on terror).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-26   18:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Robin (#27)

I recall an amusing scene where a suddenly stricken 18th century aristocrat calls out for his lawyer rather than the local leech.

I'm tellin' ya.

Thank god my bleeding ulcer caused by my migraine was fully documented at hospital and that I'd been in hospital for the same before And most importantly that I predicted the migraine that I got in hospital...;}

I knew the procedure.

The Next bleeding ulcer, there will be a lawsuit.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   9:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: A K A Stone (#177)

Sounds true.

IS true.

Once the POTUS declares he has the right to kill anyone at anytime for any reason, it's over.

There's nothing left to talk about.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   9:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: mcgowanjm (#180)

IS true.

Once the POTUS declares he has the right to kill anyone at anytime for any reason, it's over.

There's nothing left to talk about.

Does that mean you think supporters of Obama are evil?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-27   9:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: A K A Stone (#181) (Edited)

Does that mean you think supporters of Obama are evil?

I think this is Planet Hell.

And so everyone's scrambling to get the best deal.

Except for would be Gandhi's who are now shot or put in prison.

The Top 400 are evil.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   9:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: mcgowanjm (#182)

So Obama supporters are good?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-27   9:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: A K A Stone (#183) (Edited)

So Obama supporters are good?

The Banksters?

The Military?

Again, this is Planet Hell.

And the Center of Command is in DC/Tel Aviv.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   9:55:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: All (#184) (Edited)

73 sieverts per hour detected at Reactor No. 2 — Measured 4 meters from bottom

Published: March 27th, 2012 at 9:19 am ET By ENENews

Fukushima. Coordinates, 37°25′22.7"N 141°01′

DATE and TIME (UTC)

REGION 27-MAR-2012 11:00:43

LAT-ITUDE LONG-ITUDE MAG-NITUDE DEPTH

39.87 142.12 6.0 10.0km NEAR EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   9:57:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Critics maintain that the bailout is leading to the creation of many “zombie” banks, which are completely dependent on the ECB for finance and are reluctant to provide credit either to each other or to businesses.

There has been no bail out.

These people are criminals who should be brought to justice. But in the Greece of today, it will not happen”. One final source told me shortly before posting, “The Bank of Greece is naked in this matter. We ask them for the reasons why this has happened, and they claim to have no knowledge of such things. This is ridiculous. This could not have been done without their cooperation. There is nobody now in Greece we can trust”.

The illegally denied default of Greece entered a dramatic new phase this afternoon with the revelation by mainstream Greek public health website Health News that, shortly before midnight on March 8th – the eve of Greece’s psi completion on Friday March 9th – on average 70% of public utility funds in varous large, interest-bearing accounts at the Bank of Greece were raided. These included most of the State’s regional hospital budgets, various universities and (it is alleged) at least one utility company.

The shortfalls came to light late last week and this morning as various hospital purchasing cheques in particular began to bounce. The monies – estimated by one source to total some 1.4 billion euros – appear to have been used to pay off the tiny minority of private sovereign creditors

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

Nothing's been fixed since the Oct 08 bailout.

Debt itself has become the obsession du jour: the problem is not the sufficiency of debt or even its costs but the defective structure within which debt subsidizes profitless waste. We love our waste, it makes us feel human: right now the world’s economies are at the point where debt can just barely stretch to fill the waste gap. We can just barely afford the costs of the debt, provided we put to use every sort of extraordinary tactic to manage them. We add more debt, we borrow our way out of it, we shuffle it around: running faster and faster to remain in one place.

Debts can be managed this way only because the state can always run faster: as long as there is a marginal return somewhere within the debt-y universe the system will continue to lend to itself ever-larger nominal amounts. Unfortunately, the real capital that the debt is supposed to represent diminishes while the claims made against capital increase. The efforts to manage debt by ‘renewing’ it become counterproductive. Adding debt becomes another form of waste with costs that cannot be met.

A decline in nominal price of petroleum is no cure: temporary declines allow price-thwarted demand to rush back into the markets and push up the price. This decline-push dynamic remains in force until the ability of customers to meet the high price price is exhausted, when the credit runs out.

Having emptied our accounts at the gasoline pump, the returns on our non-driving endeavors are insufficient to service the debt needed to drive … or do much else.

What is underway is a margin call against the entire unproductive enterprise.

www.economic-undertow.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   10:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: All (#186)

Law-abiding taxpayers are treated like criminals while the criminal class of financiers and State apparatchiks are free to loot and pillage muppets and taxpayers alike.

It's actually very simple: whatever the state or Federal government does to you, that's legal. Whatever action you take to protect your rights is illegal....

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   10:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: All (#187)

Perhaps the closest analogy for these resurgent warmongers are the economists who failed to predict even the vaguest problems with the sub-prime mortgage market, let alone the global financial crisis.

Yet somehow they still shamelessly populate the airwaves, spouting predictions and judgments, which unfathomably never end with the anchor saying: "Mmm. We're going to interrupt you to hear from a cauliflower, because you've got to think it knows more about this stuff than you."

And so with the creatures of the US military-industrial complex, somehow able to pick themselves up from the what should have been career-ending humiliation and call for more of the same. They clearly possess some bizarre, Weeble-style self-righting mechanism, and at some level I suppose you have to admire the chutzpah.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-27   10:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Given the lack of success of the American experiment with deregulation, it is beyond belief that the cure for what ails the American economy is going to be more deregulation: "Bill Black on How the Jumpstart Obama’s Bucket Shops Act is Just Another in a Long Series of Fraud-Promoting Legislation" Also: "Bill Black: “The only winning move is not to play”—the insanity of the regulatory race to the bottom"

www.nakedcapitalism.com/2...romoting-legislation.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   8:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: All (#189)

The top three lies about Iran:

1. Iran has a nuclear program.

2. Israel can deliver bombs to Iranian nuclear facilities.

3. An attack on Iran is inevitable.

If you see any of those lies, you are reading Jewish warmongering propaganda.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   8:53:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: mcgowanjm (#189)

Given the lack of success of the American experiment with deregulation,

The government can take 95 percent of their regulations and shove them up Spike Lees ass.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-28   8:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: mcgowanjm (#190)

The top three lies about Iran:

1. Iran has a nuclear program.

2. Israel can deliver bombs to Iranian nuclear facilities.

3. An attack on Iran is inevitable.

1 and 2 are certainly true. 3 is likely.

No muslim nation deserves nukes.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-28   8:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: All (#190) (Edited)

And what you'll wait long and hard for this from the Zionist/USSA MSM:

"retired History professor Milton Cantor, a very distinguished historian of left-wing political movements in the United States, sent me a copy of a long, thoughtful letter he had sent to Senator Carl Levin. In three tightly written single-spaced pages, Cantor detailed the series of votes Levin had taken in the Senate that in one way or another expanded the autocratic power of the presidency and eroded what have always been thought to be the core rights and protections of constitutional government,

most notably the Great Writ, as the writ of habeas corpus is called. On the same day that I received the letter, I read a blog post [I cannot now recall which of three or four different blogs was its source] that included a very striking graphic illustration of the size of the military budgets of the twenty or so most geared up nations. Not surprisingly [I actually already sort of knew this], the United States spends annually ten times as much on defense as its nearest competitor, China, and all in all about half of all the money spent on the military world-wide.

Something about these two bits of information coalesced in my mind, and I realized that I was seeing a perfect representation of America's hegemonic imperial status in the contemporary world. Overwhelming military dominance abroad is complemented by the establishment of an imperium at home. The government now asserts openly that it has the right to kill anyone in the world it deems a threat to its imperium,

even if that person is a citizen of the United States. The only restraints the state now recognizes on its actions are instrumental -- the opportunity costs of military action, the deleterious effects on the members of the volunteer armed forces.

This is the reality with which we live, and it does not appear that it will change for at least a generation, perhaps longer. To be quite honest, I do not believe there is anything any of us can do to change this reality. robertpaulwolff.blogspot.ca/2012/03/big-picture.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: A K A Stone (#191)

The government can take 95 percent of their regulations and shove them up Spike Lees ass.

Duly noted.

Waiting for what you'll be replacing the Rule of Law with.

Something Jesus like I hope....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: A K A Stone (#192)

No muslim nation deserves nukes.

How about black nations?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: All (#195)

The Israeli operation was facilitated by highly-placed Zionist agents within the US government, military, and intelligence spheres. If Buzzy Krongard is a suspect in the crimes of 9-11, the question that needs to be answered is: Was Krongard acting as an agent for Israeli military intelligence at Alex Brown and the CIA? The evidence indicates that he served as an agent for Israel in both positions. Alvin Bernard Krongard, born 1936, is the son of Raphael Harris Krongard and Rita Keyser Krongard. Both his mother and father were born in Baltimore to Jewish immigrant families from Poland/Russia. His first wife, Patricia Lion, was also Jewish.

While Krongard’s Jewish roots are never mentioned in the various articles about him, his Jewish ethnicity clearly plays the key role in his efforts to support Israeli enterprises in the US. When a high-level person like Krongard conceals his Jewish roots while actively serving the state of Israel it indicates that he is seeking to hide his true identity and loyalty to a foreign state.

For such a person to be the administrative chief of the CIA says a great deal about the degree of Israeli penetration of the US intelligence community.....

Mayo Shattuck stayed on at Alex Brown, but resigned suddenly the day after 9-/1(1). While it is clear that Krongard jumped ship because he knew that the BT Alex Brown merger would soon fail, why did he go to work for the CIA? What we do know is that Krongard had worked closely with computer companies spawned by Israeli military intelligence.

After he joined the CIA as counselor to the director, Krongard soon became engaged in setting up the CIA venture capital firm called In-Q-It (In-Q-Tel) that was supposed to keep the agency abreast of computer technology. How much Israeli software do you think found its way onto the CIA computer network under Buzzy Krongard’s reign? In Oct 1999, the WaPo reported on the genesis of In-Q-Tel:

A lot of people wondered what DCI Tenet had in mind a year and a half ago when he brought in Wall Street heavyweight A B “Buzzy” Krongard to serve as his “counselor.”

9/11 is a prime example of what Indira Singh calls “extreme event risk.” In the months prior to the attack, she was working on a program capable of providing data in real time to prevent these types of events from happening. She had pitched this very idea just one week before 9/11 at In-Q-Tel Headquarters (CIA) in Virginia, giving a final presentation for an ICH (Interoperability Clearinghouse) project code named “Blue Prophet.” Indira explained to CIA why she was supporting ICH in this project.

She told the In-Q-Tel team, “The intelligence and other agencies need this now.” One of the men with CIA looked at Indira with what she describes as the “blackest, coldest look anyone has ever given her.”

They weren’t interested in Blue Prophet’s software for interoperability or risk, but rather the data it would produce because the data would point in the right directions. That data was very predictive, producing quality real-time intelligence. This is one week before 9/11. If In-Q-Tel already had this capability, it’s no wonder they would be wary of someone like Indira – the woman from New York in Risk Management who resided a few minutes’ walk from the Twin Towers.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:32:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: All (#196)

You Bums Just Vote For Us

Panetta says polls cannot dictate Afghan war plans.

Does anyone remember Dick Cheney saying, in response to exit polls during the 2006 elections which showed that only 17% of Americans supported the Bush administration's policy on Iraq, that "I don't think any president worth his salt, can afford to make decisions of this magnitude according to the polls...This president does not make policy based on public opinion polls"?

I seem to remember a lot of people who now support the Obama administration's policy in Afghanistan blindly were pretty upset with Cheney's obvious contempt for democracy and the will of the people...

...nah, I must be misremembering.

agonist.org/steve_hynd/20...you_bums_just_vote_for_us

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: All (#197)

By Peter Hart – FAIR – 03/27/2012

The big New York Times story on the Afghan War today (3/27/12) focuses on public opinion in the United States, which is now dramatically anti-war: 69 percent think we shouldn’t be there.

An interesting point argument is raised later in the piece, when two sources make the argument that the war wouldn’t be so unpopular if Barack Obama would just do a better job of selling it:

alethonews.wordpress.com/...eds-a-better-sales-pitch/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: All (#198)

Indira showed up with what she called, “A major Ground Zero attitude.” She was supposed to be on the 106th floor of the WTC on 9/11 but instead responded as a civilian EMT that morning. This was very personal for her. Charlie understood and nevertheless made the arrangements for a debriefing at the Secret Service’s National Threat Assessment Center (NTAC) in April 2003.

During the debriefing Indira was asked by a member of the Secret Service, “Is Ptech PROMIS?”

“I already knew what had happened to Danny Casolaro, and they were asking me if I had copies of Ptech,” Indira told FTW.

Danny Casolaro was the investigative journalist mysteriously “suicided” in a West Virginia hotel room while investigating the theft of PROMIS software. Casolaro’s investigation had uncovered a shadowy network he called “the Octopus” that seemed to have its hands in everything from drug trafficking and money laundering, all the way up to political assassinations and coups d’etat. When Casolaro’s body was discovered, his arms were violently slashed and all the documents he traveled with were missing. He had told friends and relatives if anything happened to him they shouldn’t believe it was by accident.

Being asked such a loaded question, she responded with her Ground Zero attitude saying:

“You have a copy of the software, why don’t you tell me? This is not about the software guys, ok – was it a PROMIS? It was a place you could hide a PROMIS, a place you can drop a PROMIS.”

Indira told FTW, “I was going to use Ptech software for risk surveillance at JP Morgan – Duh!”

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-28   9:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: mcgowanjm (#199)

During the debriefing Indira was asked by a member of the Secret Service, “Is Ptech PROMIS?”

I remember the Danny Casolaro case vaguely. This Indira and Kronard are new characters to me.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-28   10:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: All (#3) (Edited)

Wonder how many Chinooks we have left in the Afghans.

report of Chinook shot down Mar 26. Helmand Province 30 US dead.

With unexplained action in Uruzgan.

BTW, to the 20 or so USans doing Zargawat, once Sgt Bales is said to be the Only killer, you become expendible....just sayin'....;}

How will the U.S.-British enterprise recover from the latest in a series of insults to the Afghan people?

The people of the U.S. and Great Britain get the message. In a recent poll, 61% of citizens want U.S. troops home immediately. Only 19% oppose that decisive action. In Great Britain, 75% oppose the Afghan war effort.

With negligible public support and tottering economies, how can Obama and Cameron conceive, even for a moment, that withdrawal will last through the 2014 timeline?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: Fred Mertz (#200)

Indira Singh was/is one of those who were 'out of place' on 9/11.

She was supposed to be somewhere high up in the WTC's, but was also a paramedic who went to the Aid Station.

And did software/IT support for JPMorgan.

And assuming you mean 'Krongard' instead of 'Kronard'.

Buzzy Krongard was/is CIA/alex Brown/Deutsche Bank on 9/11. Said $2 million was made on a particular (airline, I think) short that was sitting unclaimed in an account.

There's no nsuch thing as an anonimous trade.

Never did hear what happened to that $$$....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: All (#202)

Mr Squarcini has said Merah was never an informer for any French security agency.

Le Canard Enchaîné newspaper reported yesterday that Merah and his family were bugged by the DCRI from March to November last year. The bugging ended abruptly, Le Canard said, at about the time of the future killer's meeting with the DCRI agent in November. However, the body which authorises telephone surveillance said later that the bugging began in November and was dropped in February because it revealed nothing important."

A list that puts this issue completely to bed:

1. When under attack, the patsy attempts to reach out for help from his intelligence handler (with plenty of government lies claiming they had no connection in the patsy, no knowledge of him, and no reason to place him on any list of possible dangers).

1a)My Edit: Patsy always has less than a high school education

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: All (#203) (Edited)

2 # A patsy assassinated when he could have been taken alive (and then defended himself by stating his mission was authorized by the French government)

3 # A 'radical Islamist terrorist' with no interest in religion.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:43:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: All (#204)

4 # # The first killer was obviously a different person (based on witness descriptions), a fact ignored by the media and government.

5# Sent to Israel, of all places, using cover provided by a French intelligence agency (the Jewish targets seem to be part of a Zionist plan to scare French Jews to flee to Israel).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: All (#205) (Edited)

6 # An inexplicable cache of weapons.

7 # Travels to Afghanistan and Pakistan, suspected of training at 'al-Qaeda' training camps, picked up by the Americans, and just sent home?

No, this was an authorized French intelligence operation - coordinated with the American and Israeli governments - to assist in Sarko's reelection (and prod French Jews into helping with the 'demographic problem' in Israel). This is so clear it is not worthy of discussion.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:45:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: All (#206) (Edited)

Anyone noticing USSA Media's complete lack of interest in....

"When Murdoch was setting up his BSKYB cable network in England, he had some serious competition. ITV had a digital service called ITV Digital. The British broadcaster was prepared to go head to head with Murdoch's network. As the services rolled out, ITV Digital became subject to furious hacker attacks. The hackers broke the ITV encryption code and distributed it widely allowing so many people to get free ITV service, the venture failed, largely due to the piracy of its service, and Murdoch had a clean road to mega profits with BSKYB...."

8D

"Ray Adams is a name you will hear more frequently as the latest and perhaps most fatal Murdoch - News Corp. scandal emerges."

http://agonist.org/michael_colli...e_lastest_murdoch_scandal

If you hear about Ray Adams turning and cooperating with the police, that's the end of Murdoch and a heavy blow to News Corp. He's not the entire case but he could make it happen in a hurry if he makes a deal.

www.themoneyparty.org/main/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:51:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: All (#207)

Political Washington is Wall Street's best friend. Whatever crooked bankers want they get. Their business model features grand theft. Wealth’s amassed through fraudulent double-dealing.

See the <10% Approval Bi-partisan Congress JOBS (TASBEM;) Bill

for details.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: All (#208)

Former bank regulator/financial fraud expert Bill Black explained what's at stake in his article headlined, " ‘The only winning move is not to play’ - the insanity of the regulatory race to the bottom.”

He called the imminent JOBS Act passage reminiscent of the "worst anti-regulatory travesties in the financial sphere (that) had broad, bipartisan support." Don't they all, especially in recent decades.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   8:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: All (#209) (Edited)

Anti-Gay activists looking for glamorous, unintelligent celebrities to advance their cause

Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - 4:49pm by Aaron McQuade, GLAAD's Director of News and Field Media

www.glaad.org/blog/anti-g...es-to-advance-their-cause

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   9:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: All (#210) (Edited)

If you had told people a year ago that the most powerful man in mainstream media (MSM) (Rupert Murdoch;) would be called upon to resign in disgrace from News Corp, the $40 billion media conglomerate, they would have laughed.

From Wikipedia: "Edward Louis Bernays (1891 – 1995) is considered one of the fathers of the field of public relations along with Ivy Lee. Combining the ideas of Gustave Le Bon and Wilfred Trotter on crowd psychology with the psychoanalytical ideas of his uncle, Sigmund Freud, Bernays was one of the first to attempt to manipulate public opinion using the psychology of the subconscious.

He felt this manipulation was necessary in society, which he regarded as irrational and dangerous as a result of the 'herd instinct' that Trotter had described. Adam Curtis's award-winning 2002 documentary for the BBC, The Century of the Self, pinpoints Bernays as the originator of modern public relations. ..........................

We have voluntarily agreed to let an invisible government sift the data and high-spot the outstanding issue so that our field of choice shall be narrowed to practical proportions. From our leaders and the media they use to reach the public, we accept the evidence and the demarcation of issues bearing upon public question; from some ethical teacher, be it a minister, a favorite essayist, or merely prevailing opinion, we accept a standardized code of social conduct to which we conform most of the time"

And if this invisible government should militate against our best interests, who then will report on that?

The media and their paid psychologists can be counted on to call such speculation "conspiracy theory",

of course, with lots of theories about why people believe this.

There even is a book called The Influencing Machine by NPR media columnist Brooke Gladstone www.amazon.com/Influencin...stone-Media/dp/0393077799 which acknowledges "the manipulations of contemporary journalism" but denies the power it has to influence our psychology.

By using as its title a 1919 paper on Schizophrenia, where sufferers believe that external forces work to shape our perceptions, it, funnily enough, denies what Edward Bernays himself wrote in his 1928 paper "Propaganda". Keep in mind that Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels acknowledged he learned his techniques from Bernays "American" techniques and you get where I am coming from.

The media operates through the energy of the throat chakra, the mind. I sometimes think it exists only to distract us so that instead of working for real change we focus on visual distractions and mindless entertainment.

But, that's ok. The power of the media to shape us is now coming to an end, as we look at forming smaller, more coherent societies and groupings.

This is how I started the article. But now, as I look at the bloated evil being whose actions led to the murder and suffering of so many millions of people, then I know what I really want to say to all the people like him.

No matter how rich you are, or how powerful, or, how long you got away with it. Sooner or later, your karma will catch up with you......;}

manfromatlan.blogspot.com/2012/03/media-and-karma.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   9:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: All (#211)

March 28, 2012 by Common Dreams Obama Admin Takes Steps Towards More Oil Drilling Shell's oil spill plan for Beaufort Sea drilling approved, seismic surveys for oil off east coast get OK - Common Dreams staff

The Obama administration has taken steps towards increased oil drilling today in Alaska and off the east coat. It approved Shell's oil spill response plan for the Arctic waters of the Beaufort Sea, a move slammed by environmental groups who warn of a likely environmental catastophe if Shell is given its final permits. The administration also allowed today seismic exploratory surveys for oil off the coast of Virginia in the Atlantic Ocean.

“All signs point to environmental disaster if an oil spill were to occur in the harsh Arctic waters — it’s just absurd that Shell’s unproven response plan got the green light,” says Miyoko Sakashita of the Center for Biological Diversity. (photo: Chris Eichler via 350.org) Shell's oil spill plan suggests little likelihood of a blowout and calls for a containment device like the one used in the Deepwater Horizon blowout to be clamped onto the well in the event that Shell's built-in blowout preventer failed.

"If Shell goes there to drill, they will kill the Arctic Ocean along the way—we must fight and stop them," says Subhankar Banerjee, founder of ClimateStoryTellers.org.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   9:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: All (#212) (Edited)

March 29, 2012 07:19 EDT CHK theflyonthewall.com: U.S. shale oil drillers told to control natural gas burn, Reuters reports Investors representing $500B in assets want energy companies in the shale oil areas of North Dakota and other states to release the amount of natural gas they burn, considered a a wasteful financial risk, reports Reuters.

Reference Link :theflyonthewall.com 06:31 EDT TOT theflyonthewall.com: North Sea gas leak could cost Total billions, WSJ reports

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March 28, 2012 10:38 EDT TOT theflyonthewall.com: Shell nears deal to sell most prolific Nigerian oil block, WSJ reports

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   10:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: All (#213)

The Oil Age | Peak Oil | LATOC • Total Rowan Viking Rig Out of Control

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10 posts - 2 authors - yesterday

"The well in question had caused Total some problems for some considerable time ... a ... Finding a source of ignition, the Rowan viking will be doing a .... 307 posts 56 months [report] [news] Yesterday (11:12) quote quote all ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   10:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: All (#214)

Totalfinaelf Rowan Viking still out of control.

Flare still burning.

Gas still looking for ignition source.

www.barchart.com/cache/df...0ae11b738dddd7ec45e8d.png

Look for the death of the Beaufort Sea now as Shell, as bad or worse than Total, gets ready to set up shop.

March 28, 2012 by Common Dreams Obama Admin Takes Steps Towards More Oil Drilling Shell's oil spill plan for Beaufort Sea drilling approved, seismic surveys for oil off east coast get OK - Common Dreams staff

The Obama administration has taken steps towards increased oil drilling today in Alaska and off the east coat. It approved Shell's oil spill response plan for the Arctic waters of the Beaufort Sea, a move slammed by environmental groups who warn of a likely environmental catastophe if Shell is given its final permits. The administration also allowed today seismic exploratory surveys for oil off the coast of Virginia in the Atlantic Ocean.

“All signs point to environmental disaster if an oil spill were to occur in the harsh Arctic waters — it’s just absurd that Shell’s unproven response plan got the green light,” says Miyoko Sakashita of the Center for Biological Diversity. (photo: Chris Eichler via 350.org) Shell's oil spill plan suggests little likelihood of a blowout and calls for a containment device like the one used in the Deepwater Horizon blowout to be clamped onto the well in the event that Shell's built-in blowout preventer failed.

"If Shell goes there to drill, they will kill the Arctic Ocean along the way—we must fight and stop them," says Subhankar Banerjee, founder of ClimateStoryTellers.org.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   10:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: mcgowanjm (#213)

What's the latest skinny on Jon Corzine?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-03-29   10:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Thursday, 06 Jamadil Awal 1433 Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:44 HELMAND, Mar. 29 – Heavy fighting broke out early this morning in Kofki area of Babaji region, Lashkargah when Mujahideen engaged US invaders that landed by helicopters for an operation.

It is said that the fighting is still ongoing at the moment (late afternoon time), causing the enemy heavy losses. More details will be updated later.

shahamat-english.com/inde...rea&catid=1:news&Itemid=2

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   21:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: Fred Mertz (#216)

What's the latest skinny on Jon Corzine?

They've got an e-mail directing funds transfer directly out of customer accts last trading day before BK with JC's name on it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   21:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: All (#217) (Edited)

Thursday, 06 Jamadil Awal 1433 Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:44 HELMAND, Mar. 29 – Heavy fighting broke out early this morning in Kofki area of Babaji region, Lashkargah when Mujahideen engaged US invaders that landed by helicopters for an operation.

It is said that the fighting is still ongoing at the moment (late afternoon time), causing the enemy heavy losses. More details will be updated later.

shahamat-english.com/inde...rea&catid=1:news&Itemid=2

20 killed in 'intense' firefight after NATO convoy is ambushed in Afghan mountains By msnbc.com news services and NBC News

KABUL, Afghanistan -- Insurgents ambushed a NATO coalition supply convoy in a mountainous area of western Afghanistan, sparking a three-hour firefight in which an Afghan soldier, five security guards and at least 14 attackers were killed, Afghan officials said Thursday.-msnbc

Same battle where the Afghans shot down the Chinook killing 30 on board.

8 killed including commander, two wounded in Ghazni battle Zabihullah Mujahid

Thursday, 06 Jamadil Awal 1433 Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:56

GHAZNI, Mar. 29 – A news report states that on Thursday Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate carried out a surprise attack on the enemy combat convoy that triggered a one-hour long fighting in Muqur district of Afghanistan’s Ghazni province in which 8 puppets including their commander were killed and two more wounded with two of the enemy vehicles destroyed. The area come under heavy airstrikes by the US invaders shortly afterwards.

This makes more sense.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   21:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: All (#219)

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10915471-20-killed-in-intense-firefight-after-nato-convoy-is-ambushed-in-afghan-mountains

""The fighting was intense and we sent in extra forces," Najibi said."

This makes no sense.

"Sayed Abdul Wahid, an official of the Arya security company, said his workers who were fighting with AK-47s were overpowered by militants using heavy weapons, including rocket-propelled grenades and machine guns."

If the convoy was overpowered, who sent in extra forces. And what are those forces doing now.

Notice how all of these battles are always past tense?....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   21:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: All (#220)

The skeptics have decided that evidence isn't really evidence -- it's a grand conspiracy of thousands to fool the public -- so no amount of evidence will matter. Nevertheless, this is worth noting:

Global Warming Close to Becoming Irreversible, by Nina Chestney, Scientific American: The world is close to reaching tipping points that will make it irreversibly hotter ... scientists warned on Monday. ... As emissions grow,... the world is close to reaching thresholds beyond which the effects on the global climate will be irreversible ...

For ice sheets - huge refrigerators that slow down the warming of the planet - the tipping point has probably already been passed...

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-29   21:29:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: mcgowanjm (#219)

GHAZNI, Mar. 29 – A news report states that on Thursday Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate carried out a surprise attack on the enemy combat convoy that triggered a one-hour long fighting in Muqur district of Afghanistan’s Ghazni province in which 8 puppets including their commander were killed and two more wounded with two of the enemy vehicles destroyed. The area come under heavy airstrikes by the US invaders shortly afterwards.

This makes more sense.

You really like to publish enemy propaganda don't you? You do realize these same enemy "news sources" report Americans dying in droves each day?

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   0:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: mcgowanjm (#221)

For ice sheets - huge refrigerators that slow down the warming of the planet - the tipping point has probably already been passed...

Thanks high priest Algore for the update. Your posts are scams.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   0:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: A K A Stone (#0)

So many environmentalists just refuse to get it into their heads that humanity has painted itself into the tightest of corners. Beginning in earnest about a century ago, we tapped into the greatest energy resource nature could have possibly bestowed upon us. Instead of wisely managing that very nonrenewable resource, we exploited it as quickly as we could and allowed our population to expand in a very short time to well beyond what the planet can possibly sustain when that resource runs out, even if the resulting environmental damage from burning that resource wasn't also a hugely negative factor.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:08:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: redleghunterThanks high priest Algore for the update. Your posts are scams. (#223)

Thanks high priest Algore for the update. Your posts are scams.

AlGore fucked up when he didn't confront Scalia January 2001...;}

And I donn't think scamming means what you think it means...;}

Arctic Ice Free Summer 2013.

Chicago Low Temps break Old high Temps records.

And we haven't even gotten to the 90's pollution rates yet.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:11:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: redleghunter (#222)

You really like to publish enemy propaganda don't you?

The Afghans have never done anything to me.

So why are they the enemy?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: redleghunter (#222) (Edited)

You do realize these same enemy "news sources" report Americans dying in droves each day?

And what makes you think that Americans are not dying in the afghans everyday?

You actually believe Bales is not a patsy?

Antiwar Forum

It is interesting to note just how well this imperialism thing has worked for the American people. At the end of last year the U.S. was kicked out of Iraq after spending some trillions of dollars and producing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Americans. Al-Qaeda, which was not present in Iraq when the U.S. arrived, has lately been responsible for bomb attacks that have killed hundreds of Iraqis, mostly civilians. As a result of the ham-handed American intervention, Iraq’s closest friend now is not the U.S. It is Iran.

Appalled by the excesses of the U.S. military, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has followed suit, initially demanding that the U.S. restrict its soldiers to their bases, a move that would mean that the American presence in Afghanistan could well end in short order after the loss of another trillion dollars and the deaths of some tens of thousands of coalition soldiers and Afghan civilians.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: mcgowanjm (#224)

Instead of wisely managing that very nonrenewable resource,

But it is renewable. It isn't from fossils. Oil wells that were "empty" regularly fill back up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-30   9:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: A K A Stone (#228)

regularly fill back up.

It's the word 'regularly'.

The Sun orbits the Milky Way regularly.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: All (#229)

think for a moment how any restaurant could offer a double cheeseburger for only $1.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: All (#230)

How can a great nation with vast intelligence and diplomatic resources be so tone deaf and absolutely clueless?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   9:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: mcgowanjm (#230)

think for a moment how any restaurant could offer a double cheeseburger for only $1.

Pink slime is what? 100 percent beef.

Actually double cheeseburgers are now $1.29.

McDonalds is doing it and has record profits.

Did you know they pay less for their beef then we do at the supermarket?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-30   9:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: mcgowanjm (#231)

How can a great nation with vast intelligence and diplomatic resources be so tone deaf and absolutely clueless?

Clueless to what? Abortion?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-30   9:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: All (#231)

markww March 30, 2012 at 9:53 am Log in to Reply

Does not sound like a COLD SHUT DOWN ANYWHERE AT FUKUSHIMA how many more LIARS are going to step up to the plate and lie cheat and steal for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   10:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: A K A Stone (#232)

$1.29 (too bad you know the actual price;).

There is Zero way to pay $1 lb Feeder cattle.

To pay $6.31 per bu wheat.

To pay whatever cheese costs.

Then the overhead.

And sell it for $1.29 and make $$$....unless there's 'filler' and chemicals and anti biotics and obese people on the other end.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   10:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: A K A Stone (#232) (Edited)

McDonalds is doing it and has record profits.

Did you know they pay less for their beef then we do at the supermarket?

O yeah. I know exactly how fast the Amazon is disappearing.

I know exactly what cost cattle do to the planet and I know that McDee's is nothing but a Commodities amalgamator....Read Fast Food Nation for ex.

Ex..When you get Seasonal McRibs? It's because pork bellies have dropped to X point.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   10:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: A K A Stone (#232) (Edited)

Pink slime is what? 100 percent beef.

And you're not going to defend pink slime are you?

Floor sweepings doused with Ammonia?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   10:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#238. To: All (#237)

The point is, if all houses burned down at some point, there would be no fire insurance, and if all houses flooded at some point, there would be no flood insurance. But everyone dies, and yet there is health insurance. How is that?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   10:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#239. To: mcgowanjm (#238)

Timing is everything.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-30   10:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#240. To: mcgowanjm (#237)

And you're not going to defend pink slime are you?

Floor sweepings doused with Ammonia?

Oh come on it... it's finely ground gristle, hide and unmentionable parts. What's not to like? ;)

And ammonia has been the meat packers best friend for quite some time. It saves money by cutting down on the use of a janitorial service.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-30   10:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#241. To: mininggold (#240)

And ammonia has been the meat packers best friend for quite some time. It saves money by cutting down on the use of a janitorial service.

Vegan is looking pretty good.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-30   11:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#242. To: mcgowanjm (#235) (Edited)

And sell it for $1.29 and make $$$....unless there's 'filler' and chemicals and anti biotics and obese people on the other end.

Every commercial non organic steer is fed Corid or Bovatec from the day it can eat on it's own to two weeks before it's slaughtered. Most cow feed comes with it already mixed.

Ear tags are now being used as a way to slow deliver wormers, systemic insecticides...you name it. And most steers receive estrogen supplements for added weight gain. I think that can be delivered via ear tag too.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-30   11:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#243. To: lucysmom (#241)

Vegan is looking pretty good.

Ammonia is used on fruit and veggies too, especially those that are coated like apples. Home grown, raised and picked seems to be the only way to get away from it.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-30   11:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#244. To: mininggold (#243)

Is that true for organic as well?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-30   11:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#245. To: lucysmom (#244) (Edited)

Is that true for organic as well?

Organic beef is supposed to be life long free of any chemical additives even wormers. Organic farmers use a combination of pasture rotation and organic feeds, and often diatomaceous earth and some herbal products to rid their animals of worms and insects.

If for any reason a steer needs antibiotics not of the homeopathic variety, that steer is usualy tagged and separated, or sold.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-30   12:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#246. To: mininggold (#242) (Edited)

estrogen supplements for added weight gain.

What was that story?

Animals are getting fatter, too?

Here it is:

Animals and 6-Month-Old Infants Are Getting Fatter … Which Mean ... www.zerohedge.com › Blogs › George Washington's blogCached

Mar 19, 2012 – People and animals get fat because of excessive consumption of ..... like making the girls develop early, and estrogen pushes toward plump. Went with '70% of Americans obese by 2025'.

Obesity Information - American Heart Association www.heart.org/.../Obesity...CM_307908_Articl...Cached

May 5, 2011 – Between 60 and 70% of Americans are either overweight or obese. Being obese puts you at a higher risk for health problems such as heart ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   12:22:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#247. To: All (#246)

And this is sick:

"Motorists Can Avenge $4 Gas by Owning Oil Stocks"

So if you're wealthy, why are you worried about $4 gas anyway?

And the avg 'motorist' can just buy these oil stocks where?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-30   12:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: mcgowanjm (#246)

www.fda.gov/downloads/Ani...ugSummaries/ucm116141.pdf

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-30   13:33:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#249. To: mcgowanjm (#246)

Animals and 6-Month-Old Infants Are Getting Fatter …

Just this morning I heard a doctor on the radio say that they've found an average of 200 industrial chemicals in umbilical cord blood tested. So much for "real" conservatives who love little babies and industrial chemicals too.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-30   14:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   14:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#251. To: All (#250)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   14:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: mininggold (#248)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   14:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   15:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: mcgowanjm (#247)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-03-30   16:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: mcgowanjm (#237)

And you're not going to defend pink slime are you?

Is it worse the hot dogs or bologna? Has anyone ever died from eating it? If we stop using it here could it help feed the third world? Is it more or less nutritious then regular beef?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-30   19:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: A K A Stone (#255)

Is it worse the hot dogs or bologna? Has anyone ever died from eating it? If we stop using it here could it help feed the third world? Is it more or less nutritious then regular beef?

Stone, you are making too much sense here for him to possibly comprehend.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-03-30   19:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: jwpegler (#256)

Stone, you are making too much sense here for him to possibly comprehend.

I think the stuff looks gross personally. I'd rather just have the good cuts. Maybe they should just label it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-30   19:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: A K A Stone (#255)

Is it worse the hot dogs or bologna? Has anyone ever died from eating it? If we stop using it here could it help feed the third world? Is it more or less nutritious then regular beef?

I think what most object to is the lack of truth in advertising. Ground round or chuck is certainly not chopped lips, dicks and eyeballs.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-30   19:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: mininggold (#258)

is certainly not chopped lips, dicks and eyeballs.

That is the funniest thing I have ever seen you write.

It sounds like something a man would write, not a woman.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-03-30   19:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: All (#220)

Notice the use of the word "insurance."

cluborlov.blogspot.com/

Insurance means there's a pay out.

But we have no idea what the pay out's going to be.

"Now, health insurance is a strange proposition to start with, because everyone dies, and nobody dies healthy, so most people require medical treatment at some point. (A few people spontaneously combust, I suppose. They are still none too healthy during the few seconds before they die, but that's not long enough for them to avail themselves of medical attention. But that's a very rare case.) The point is, if all houses burned down at some point, there would be no fire insurance, and if all houses flooded at some point, there would be no flood insurance. But everyone dies, and yet there is health insurance. How is that?"

"I wanted to know the adjusted price beforehand, but I was told that they do not give out this information. The adjustments are generated by an inscrutable computer program, which determines the numbers on the spur of the moment based on a set of formulas. Now, normally I don't do business with companies that refuse to quote a price before I place the order. That's where the tax penalty is most helpful to them: it leaves me no choice but do business with, and get robbed by, this company."

We're going top get Single Payer Medicare/VA. The question is how bad the USSA's Empire's doin' when it happens.

Same with Student Loans....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: A K A Stone (#257)

Maybe they should just label it.

And say where it was processed.

And what kind of hormones went into it.

And if it was a BGH dairy cow. With Spongiform.

The problem's that it takes more people doing more local using more time.

And that's a Corporation killer.

So we'll continue doin' what we're doin'. With every man for himself.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: A K A Stone (#255)

If we stop using it here could it help feed the third world?

First, no one here is interested in feeding anyone in the Third World.

You try to feed Third World, they call you a hero.

You ask why the Third World's hungry, they call you a terrorist....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: A K A Stone (#255)

Is it worse the hot dogs or bologna?

Second, Yes, because you can put anything into Pink Slime. The Ammonia process makes it edible.

But to your question. I stopped eating hot dogs/bologna long before I stopped eating meat.

And I watched them grind the Sirloin into hamburger...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: A K A Stone (#255)

Is it more or less nutritious then regular beef?

The more you process by definition, it's less 'nutritious'.

The higher on the Food Chain, the more toxic the product.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: lucysmom (#249)

an average of 200 industrial chemicals in umbilical cord blood tested.

Anytime now. We go non linear.

Neonicotinoids and Other Chemicals www.beesalive.com/neonicotinoids.htmlCached

Using weapons such as imidacloprid and other neonicotinoids, we wage war with nature. ... Some History - How Did We Come to Use Chemicals Anyway?

Controversial Pesticide Linked to Bee Collapse | Wired Science ... www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/03

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:40:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: mcgowanjm (#264)

The more you process by definition, it's less 'nutritious'.

The higher on the Food Chain, the more toxic the product.

Yep. Everywhere air, steel, hands, even gloves contact meat, there is potential for all sorts of contamination.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-03-31   12:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#267. To: jwpegler (#256)

Stone, you are making too much sense here for him to possibly comprehend.

And speaking of someone not giving a rat's ass about feeding the Third World....

;}

And feeding the Third World with meat? LMFAO

You do realize that is impossible. On every level. Even with Pink Slime.

Even as we put a third of our corn crop in the gas tank....;}

Just totally un reality.

With now the Lowest Grain Stocks ever.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#268. To: mininggold (#266) (Edited)

Yep. Everywhere air, steel, hands, even gloves contact meat, there is potential for all sorts of contamination.

And that's exactly right but I was talking about Toxic accumulation in the Fats.

The problem for Corporations is that they've gone as far as they can.

The fewest workers, the most chemicals, the biggest machines, the longest transport, the most captive gov't.

And all the infrastructure designed to run on $20 the BBL fuel.

We're going back to local and Corporations will be left high and dry.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   12:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: All (#268)

The Tuareg taking over an area twice the size of France.

"We can hear heavy fire coming in the direction of the main military camp," a Reuters reporter said.

"People here are running all over the place and all the shops are closing."

Mahamane Diakite, an aide to the governor of Gao, told AFP: "We can hear heavy weapons fire. We have also seen two helicopters taking off to shoot. Rebels have entered the town."

In the afghans:

"A member of a U.S.-backed Afghan village police force has killed nine of his fellow officers as they slept in a volatile eastern area, officials said. The Taliban claimed responsibility.

The gunman opened fire with his assault rifle after waking up at 3 a.m. on Friday, ostensibly to take over guard duty at a small command post for the Afghan Local Police in Paktika province. He killed everybody inside, including the post's commander, according to officials. He then took their weapons, piled them in a pickup truck and sped away.

These people are getting away. All of them. There is no collateral damage for the Taliban. And that is the deadliest formula for the USSA.

"Another ALP member was accused of involvement in the killing of nine members of his unit in March in southern Uruzgan province. They also were shot and killed while asleep at their post in the village of Oshi in the province's Charchino district. It remains unclear if he killed them or allowed a killer into the post, but he was never apprehended."

BBC map

Mali's government forces have struggled to drive back the rebels. Mid-ranking officers in the military overthrew the government this month, saying the army needed more equipment to fight.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   13:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: mininggold (#266)

And you can bet BPA's all over/in your meat product:

Published on Friday, March 30, 2012 by Common Dreams FDA Keeps BPA in Food, Fails Public Health Again 'FDA should remove "responsible for protecting the public health" from its mission statement' - Common Dreams staff

Today the Food and Drug Administration has announced that it will not take steps to bar bisphenol-A, or BPA, a known toxic chemical, from canned food and liquid infant formula containers.

Studies show that BPA leaches from epoxy linings of cans into food and drink, and resurfaces in breast milk, saliva, urine, amniotic fluid and umbilical cord blood; the contamination is linked to many health problems including birth defects.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-03-31   13:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#271. To: mcgowanjm (#267) (Edited)

And speaking of someone not giving a rat's ass about feeding the Third World....

My responsibility is to feed my family, not the third world.

If the people in the third world want to eat, they should overthrow their socialist dictators and go to work.


Iran’s main drive for acquiring atomic weapons is not for use against Israel but as a deterrent against U.S. intervention -- Major General Zeevi Farkash, head of the Israeli Military Intelligence Directorate

jwpegler  posted on  2012-03-31   14:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: jwpegler (#271)

If the people in the third world want to eat, they should overthrow their socialist dictators and go to work.

Were they better off with their corporate dictators?

We once threw off the chains of our historical corporate dictators, only to embrace them again in the 21st century.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-03-31   17:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#273. To: mcgowanjm (#268)

And that's exactly right but I was talking about Toxic accumulation in the Fats.

The problem for Corporations is that they've gone as far as they can.

The fewest workers, the most chemicals, the biggest machines, the longest transport, the most captive gov't.

And all the infrastructure designed to run on $20 the BBL fuel.

We're going back to local and Corporations will be left high and dry.

I think they still have lots of wiggle room. The cheapest way for manufacturers to dispose of toxins is to get something to eat it. Whether eukaryote or prokaryote.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-01   2:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: All (#38)

#97. To: nolu chan (#93)

Nothing done by SCOTUS is null and void,

To paraphrase Andrew Jackson:

'How many soldiers does the SCOTUS have?....;}

There comes a time in every wo/man's life when a decision has to be made.

Do I live on my knees or die on my feet.

Congress has a <10% approval rating.

They don't even do polls on the approval of SCOTUS.

The Dems got zero for their asquiescence in the overthrow of Democracy December 14, 2000.

When the Gov't no longer represents the view of the people

(See the COG/State of Emergency, Patriot Act, and Citizen's United 'case' for details;)

the people have the right to overthrow that gov't.

just for shites and giggles I googled:

Deficit Reduction and Economic Recovery. The following is an ex of the pp of bulls**t that I got back:

The Unnecessary Pivot From Economic Recovery to Deficit Reduction Posted Jun. 14, 2011 By Loren Adler and Shai Akabas James Kennedy contributed to this post. Less than three years ago, the U.S. financial system barely averted a catastrophic meltdown, and the nation was embroiled in a severe recession. Our economy was analogous to a car rolling backwards down a hill at an uncomfortably quick pace. Thankfully, America’s leaders were able to hit the brakes and stop the skid with policies that, while far from ideal, returned the economy to a forward gear.

Oftwominds, Charles H SMith:

We have all experienced the disorientation and "brain freeze" that stress triggers. It seems these symptoms of stress have become normalized in countries where the authorities keep promoting phony "economic recoveries." The disconnect between what the authorities are claiming and what people are actually experiencing is widening, and that leads to stress. No wonder more and more people are "losing it" in public as their neural circuitry melts down under the strain of synthesizing what they experience (austerity) and what they're told (official spin about the "recovery").

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:20:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #98. To: nolu chan (#93)

As for Obama, even if he were found to be an alien, his actions would not be null and void. See de facto officer.

Obama's a war criminal.

Just like bush43 before him.

Worse. Anyone saying they can kill anyone at anytime for any reason is Evil.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:23:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #99. To: nolu chan (#93)

If we are to have universal health insurance,

the USSA will have to be mortally threatened.

Only then does the State attempt to gain the support of the Bottom 99%.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:24:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #100. To: nolu chan (#94)

It is deliberately misnamed

Just like you never see the word 'insurance' in the same sentence with Credit Debt Swaps.

And that CDS' 'sole' purpose is implied to be insurance against default.

Insurance proclaims a contract between parties.

Health Insurance is a tax, enforced/collected by the state for the benefit of private corporations who will not tell you the cost of what you're purchasing until after....

Just one more criminal enterprise on Planet Hell.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:28:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #101. To: nolu chan (#95)

O and Corporations, one way or another will be gone in 10 years.

Nah, they're like society's cockroach.

Only in that cockroach's can survive nuclear fallout.

Corporations can't survive the fall of the state.

10 years.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:30:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #102. To: nolu chan (#96)

supporters of the Act to turn out at the polls in November.

To vote for who.

If voting changed anything it would be made illegal.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:31:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #103. To: All (#102)

Behaviorally, stress breaks down self-control, so it is no surprise that stress leads to bingeing, addictive behavior, impluse buying, etc.--all "knock-on" effects with negative consequences.

Chronic stress permanently degrades our ability to rationally analyze and plan, and so we act irrationally or erratically, as we are no longer able to stick to a conscious plan of coherent action. With the rational mind and self-control centers permanently suppressed, we are prone to "zombie" passivity, "sleepwalking" though life. This may help explain Americans' remarkable passivity as their civil liberties are taken away and their financial insecurity increases.

Many of the features of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) are visible in "everyday Americans," and an understanding of how stress erodes rational thought and self-control helps explain why. -Charles H Smith

"February 26, 2012 They Won't Stop Until There's No One Left to Kill The awful Drudge links this:

The Pentagon is readying for the possibility of intervention in Syria, aiming to halt Syrian President Bashsar Assad's violent crackdown on protesters, the newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat reported Saturday, citing a US military offical.....;}

powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/

And you think the State's gonna diss it's corporation loving Top 400 to hand out Single Payer Medicare/VA for All?

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-01   8:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: All (#274)

If the mandate and all of the Affordable Care Act gets flushed by SCOTUS, it may greatly energize the supporters of the Act to turn out at the polls in November. Such could contribute to the reelection of Obama, leading to Obama making several appointments to the Court, changing the balance of power at the Court. That’s one way to look at it.

Governor Romney has been the voice of reason in the Republican primaries, and has refused to turn his back on his core values or change his positions despite the scurrilous attacks from his opponents. Were he not running against a successful incumbent, I would have no hesitation in bestowing upon him my full endorsement.

Governor Romney’s excellent qualifications are, however, trumped by the superior record while in office of the incumbent, Barack Obama. Taking the presidential oath in the middle of the worst financial crisis since World War Two, Mr. Obama hit the ground running and was quickly able to restore the public’s confidence in the financial markets with his aggressive actions to curtail the shady dealings of Wall Street hucksters. Even before taking office, Mr. Obama signaled that he would not be representing business as usual by his staunch opposition to the Troubled Assets Relief Bill at the height of the 2008 campaign. Mr. Obama’s boldest move was unleashing the FBI and Department of Justice prosecutors on Wall Street, who then secured indictments against the big players who were most responsible for the rampant fraud that caused the housing bubble and the resulting crash in the financial markets.

So I wholeheartedly give my endorsement to Barrack Obama for the Re Election of the President of the United States.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-01 8:55:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

^^^^APRIL FOOLS....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-01   9:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: mininggold (#273)

The cheapest way for manufacturers to dispose of toxins is to get something to eat it. Whether eukaryote or prokaryote.

The cheapest way is to throw it into the nearest body of water.

And pay the local official in charge to look the other way.

The second cheapest is your suggestion, but we can't get any more to eat any faster and still Peak Pollution is on the way.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-01   9:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: jwpegler (#271)

And speaking of someone not giving a rat's ass about feeding the Third World....

My responsibility is to feed my family, not the third world.

Exactly. So why don't you stay on threads where you have something to offer.... ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-01   9:31:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: jwpegler (#271)

If the people in the third world want to eat, they should overthrow their socialist dictators and go to work.

And here's your problem du jour, jw.

You think poverty happens because the poor got to the gravy train station 10 minutes too late, when the actuality is that the poor are being held up at gunpoint daily.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-01   9:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

The unemployment rate for those age 16 to 24 with bachelor's degrees stood at 8.1% in February, up from 4.6% four years earlier. Many others find themselves underemployed.

-CNN

The above is wrong. You don't get a bachelor's before age 21 for ex.

The frightening thing is that this is just the beginning. Things are going to get a lot worse in Greece. And in case you haven't been paying attention, these kinds of conditions are coming to the United States as well. We are heading down the exact same road as Greece went down, and the economic pain that this country is eventually going to suffer is going to be beyond anything that most Americans would dare to imagine.

theeconomiccollapseblog.c...st-century/comment-page-1

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   7:55:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: All (#279) (Edited)

we know weather is warmer and that human activity is the cause.

For global records, 2010 is the hottest year on record, tied with 2005.

The WMO, part of the United Nations, said the warmest 13 years of average global temperatures have all occurred in the 15 years since 1997. That has contributed to extreme weather conditions which increase the intensity of droughts and heavy precipitation across the world, it said.

"Global temperatures in 2011 are currently the tenth highest on record and are higher than any previous year with a La Nina event, which has a relative cooling influence," it said

Paul Michaelwaite from Netweather said: “As strange as it is to say this in March, it’s going to be a barbecue weekend.

“It’s pretty rare for it to be this warm, especially if you consider the average maximum temperature for March in the UK is just below 9C.”

Total Selected Records: 18009

Rainfall: 2913

Snowfall: 522

High Temp: 6809

Low Temp: 290

Low Max Temp: 634

High Min Temp:

6841

www.startribune.com/blogs/paul_douglas_on_weather.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   7:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: All (#280)

How you can tell CIA/MI6 wrote the article:

"The Tuareg are a traditionally nomadic and pastoralist ethnic minority group of some 1.5 million people who seek to secede from the Malian republic and form an independent nation called Azawad; the group has traditionally existed in a territory scattered across the Sahel and Sahara countries largely operated by al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)."

Al Qaeda's largely operating....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   8:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: All (#281) (Edited)

Do you want to see what a 21st century economic depression looks like? Just look at Greece. Once upon a time, the Greek economy was thriving, the Greek government was borrowing money like there was no tomorrow and Greek citizens were thoroughly enjoying the bubble of false prosperity that all that debt created. Those that warned that Greece was headed for a financial collapse were laughed at and were called "doom and gloomers". Well, nobody is laughing now.

theeconomiccollapseblog.c...st-century/comment-page-1

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   8:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: All (#282) (Edited)

Oysters have evac'ed the Gulf Coast.....;}

" Two years later, fourth generation oysterman Nick Collins said there is nothing but dead shells in the Louisiana oyster beds that produced 60 to 80 sacks of oysters a day before the BP spill.

"Has anyone found a successful spring spat set on their leases yet?" asks Mississippi-based oyster expert Ed Cake. "Is there any evidence that the long-awaited oyster industry recovery has begun east of the (Mississippi) River or in the Barataria Bay area?"

Oyster spat are larvae that successfully attach to a solid substrate, usually other oyster shells on an oyster bar, and begin growing and forming shells.

Many Gulf residents think BP just wants to close the book on the disaster. That's unlikely to happen until the environmental bill is paid, and funds are set aside to restore Gulf ecosystem.

The herring fishery in Prince William Sound is only now beginning to recover, 22 year after the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska, and the oyster fishery in Mexico's Terminos Lagoon has not fully recovered 32 year after the 1979 Ixtoc-1 oil spill, says Cake.

www.foodsafetynews.com/20...years-after-bp-oil-spill/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   8:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: All (#283) (Edited)

If you knew that you could live in luxury for the rest of your life but that by doing so it would absolutely destroy the future for your children, your grandchildren and your great-grandchildren would you do it? Well, that is exactly what we are doing as a nation.

The ruling class and opinion leaders are dominated by linear thinkers that believe the world progresses in a straight line. Despite all evidence of history clearly moving through cycles that repeat every eighty to one hundred years (a long human life), the present generations are always surprised by these turnings in history. I can guarantee you this country will not truly experience an economic recovery or progress for another fifteen to twenty years.

And this fellow doesn't appreciate climate change and PO....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   9:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: All (#284)

Hope is not an option.

There is too much debt, too little cash-flow, too many promises, too many lies, too little common sense, too much mass delusion, too much corruption, too little trust, too much hate, too many weapons in the hands of too many crazies, and too few visionary leaders to not create an epic worldwide implosion. Too bad.

The linear thinkers will continue to predict a recovery that never arrives.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   9:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: All (#285)

Dallas $3.89

Chicago $4.25

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   9:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: All (#286)

Looks like the Sarkozy/Mossad 'Al qaeda' option flopped:

Although German Chancellor Angela Merkel at first declined French Presidential challenger Francois Hollande’s offer to meet, Berlin is increasingly resigned to the likelihood that, after May, it will be dealing with the Socialist leader. The Chancellery has begun forging tentative ties with Hollande’s camp, but this is going to be a prickly process: Hollande has already announced that as President he would immediately renegotiate parts of the fiscal pact.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   9:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#288. To: All (#287)

And B careful what you wish for:

"“Conservatives may find that they weren’t careful about what they wished for in opposing ‘Obamacare,’” Adam Winkler, a constitutional law professor at UCLA School of Law, told TPM. “The economic, social and political pressure for health care reform aren’t going to just disappear. There’s a reason every major industrialized country has national health care. If the Supreme Court invalidates the Affordable Care Act, we are likely to see a government takeover of health care in the next decade.”

Sooner than that. We leave the Afghans and w/in a year we'll have Medicare/VA for all.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-02   9:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#289. To: A K A Stone (#0)

OK. The USSAns must be suffering an extreme shortage of Chinooks in the Afghans now.

OR

somewhere in our Empire, because we keep moving Chinooks into the Afghans from other parts.

"According to a statement released by NATO-led International Security Assistance Force on Monday, an International Security Assistance Force helicopter made a forced landing in eastern Afghanistan today.

The statement further added, ISAF is in the process of assessing the circumstances to determine more facts; however, initial reporting indicates that there was no enemy activity in the area.

The statement did not disclose further information regarding the exact location of the incident.

ISAF confirmed all crew members have been recovered. The site of the incident is secure and no fatalities were reported."

All of the above is bullshit.

1) Because the Taliban claimed to have shot down the Helo in the exact same place Sunday:

"14 US-Nato invaders killed as Nato helicopter downed in Ghazni Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 09 Jamadil Awal 1433 Sunday, 01 April 2012 17:25

GHAZNI, Apr. 01 – A recent news report indicates that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate brought down Nato helicopter in Andar district of Afghanistan’s Ghazni province on Sunday.

The helicopter was shot down with artillery fire close to the US PRT base at 9:00 a.m. local time after it was about to land, causing the it to set on fire, witnesses to the scene said.

A Mujahideen’s official said that as many as 14 US-NATO invaders are believed to have been killed in the shoot-down, adding that the shoot-down site was cordoned off by the US invaders with a large number their tanks."

My question is how the USSAns are covering the deaths. And the now missing Chinook. "The third reason for rising Gulf consumption is the inefficiency of domestic energy markets. About 65 percent of Saudi electricity is generated using black gold, even as successive price shocks and the relative inefficiency of oil generation have seen it all but phased out in rich countries.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   9:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: All (#289)

And the above confirms this:

"#219. To: All (#217) (Edited)

Thursday, 06 Jamadil Awal 1433 Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:44 HELMAND, Mar. 29 – Heavy fighting broke out early this morning in Kofki area of Babaji region, Lashkargah when Mujahideen engaged US invaders that landed by helicopters for an operation.

It is said that the fighting is still ongoing at the moment (late afternoon time), causing the enemy heavy losses. More details will be updated later.

shahamat-english.com/inde...rea&catid=1:news&Itemid=2

20 killed in 'intense' firefight after NATO convoy is ambushed in Afghan mountains By msnbc.com news services and NBC News

KABUL, Afghanistan -- Insurgents ambushed a NATO coalition supply convoy in a mountainous area of western Afghanistan, sparking a three-hour firefight in which an Afghan soldier, five security guards and at least 14 attackers were killed, Afghan officials said Thursday.-msnbc

Same battle where the Afghans shot down the Chinook killing 30 on board.

8 killed including commander, two wounded in Ghazni battle Zabihullah Mujahid

Thursday, 06 Jamadil Awal 1433 Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:56

GHAZNI, Mar. 29 – A news report states that on Thursday Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate carried out a surprise attack on the enemy combat convoy that triggered a one-hour long fighting in Muqur district of Afghanistan’s Ghazni province in which 8 puppets including their commander were killed and two more wounded with two of the enemy vehicles destroyed. The area come under heavy airstrikes by the US invaders shortly afterwards.

This makes more sense.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-03-29 21:09:15 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   9:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: All (#290)

Press TV April 2, 2012

The Taliban say they have shot down an American helicopter in Afghanistan’s eastern province of Ghazni, Press TV reports.

Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid claimed on Monday that at least 14 US soldiers were killed after the chopper was downed in Andar district on Sunday.

He said that the militants have targeted the helicopter with an “82mm rocket.”

Afghan and American officials have not yet commented on the report.

Several choppers belonging to US-led military forces have been downed in recent months in the war-torn country.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   9:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: All (#291)

Reported security incidents

#1: The Taliban militants have set fire to a convoy of NATO tankers carrying fuel for US-led foreign forces in southwestern Afghanistan, Press TV reports. Afghan officials said the militants destroyed at least six fuel tankers in an ambush in Dilaram district of Nimruz province late on Monday.

This is while the Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid claimed that the militants destroyed nine tankers along with seven escorting vehicles. Dilaram governor Abdul Karim Barahawi said at least four Taliban militants were killed in an airstrike fallowing the attack.

A similar ambush last week destroyed five NATO fuel tankers. Dozens of Taliban militants were gunned down in the ensuing clashes.

And ALL of the above is where the helo was shot down and the battle took place in the posts above.

Summary:

The USSAns are now reduced to patroling their SUPPLY routes which are being heavily interdicted by the Resistance.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   9:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: All (#25)

To ReCap:

"Depending on who’s doing the counting, the ANA consists of 100,000 to 150,000 soldiers, but only 1 percent of their units can operate without direct NATO assistance, according to Army Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, an officer with the U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), in a recent interview with Military.com.

Scaparrotti appears to think it is somewhat redeeming that after $12 billion of U.S. investment in 2011 alone, 42 percent of the ANA units are capable of leading security operations “with advisers.”

Thanks a lot — considering that after this week’s riots, NATO didn’t even deem its advisers safe enough to let them continue their work in the ministry buildings. ...

As of this moment there is almost ZERO interaction between this MultiBillion Army and ISAF/NATO/USSA...;}

Mullah Omar could give the order today and how many of that Army would fight under the White Taliban flag?

After 11 years and this is our effort revealed?

It's looking more and more like Saigon 1975.

Mujahideen clash with invaders Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Sunday, 09 Jamadil Awal 1433 Sunday, 01 April 2012 13:27

HELMAND, Apr. 01 – Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate clashed with cowardly US invaders earlier today in Nahr Siraj region’s Yakhchal area, causing the enemy heavy casualties and losses.

The International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said on Monday that the deaths of coalition troops at the hand of Afghan soldiers had sapped spirits among its forces. "Although the incidents are small in number, we are aware of the gravity they have as an effect on morale," ISAF spokesman Brigadier General Carsten Jacobson said in Kabul.

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-15149996

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:20:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: All (#293) (Edited)

And of course in Iraq on the 9th Anniversary of the Battle of Saddam Int'l.

Everything's as bad as it has been.

" It appears that the "experts" who assessed the implications of the statue coming down were all wrong. The U.S. military was not met with a flower-throwing public; almost 5,000 U.S. soldiers, 5,000 U.S. civilian "security" personnel; and hundreds of other foreign nationals have been killed since April 9, 2003. Hundreds of thousands of U.S. soldiers have been severely wounded since that date. There is no democracy in Iraq. There is no government in Iraq. There is no peace in Iraq. It looks like the experts were a little premature in their basking in glory.

April 9 was supposed to be a national holiday in the "new" Iraq. On the first anniversary, Bush had planned to visit Baghdad and lead a huge parade in the area of Saddam’s statue. Something occurred along the way to make Bush change his plans: a fierce resistance.

On April 9 this year, the square will look the same as it has every April 9 since the U.S. invasion. It will be cordoned off and no one will be allowed to enter. This is a long way from having millions of people flood the area."

And I distinctly remember getting a flock of shite from across the spectrum on how the toppling of the Statue in Al Fir Square was the genuine rejoicing of the Iraq people......LMFAO....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: All (#294)

March 29, 2003, 0924hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow - During the past day the situation on the US-Iraqi front remained largely unchanged. The US is continuing reinforcing the attack group near Karabela for a thrust toward Baghdad. By the morning of March 29 up to 20,000 coalition troops were massed in the area of Karabela. This forces includes up to 200 tanks, 150 artillery systems and more than 250 helicopters. The order for the attack will be given by the coalition commander Gen. Tommy Franks, who, according to intercepted radio communications, will personally inspect the troops during the next several hours.

Around 1900hrs yesterday an Apache attack helicopter crashed. Intercepted radio communications show that the helicopter was heavily damaged in a combat mission. The helicopter's pilot lost control during landing and the helicopter crashed, causing serious damage to another helicopter that landed earlier.

The coalition troops have so far failed to take An-Nasiriya despite of the categorical orders from the command and more than 800 combat missions by the strike aircraft. All attempts to break through the Iraqi defense were met by Iraqi counterattacks. After 24 hours of fighting the coalition troops only managed to advance several hundred meters in two sectors near An-Nasiriya at the cost of 4 destroyed armored personnel carriers, no less that 3 Marines killed by sniper and mortar fire, 10 wounded and 2 missing in action. The exact Iraqi losses are being determined.

The Americans have also failed to advance near An-Najaf. Every coalition attack was met by massive artillery barrages from the Iraqi side. Later during the day the Iraqis mounted a counterattack throwing the US forces back by 1.5-2 kilometers. No fewer than 10 Marines were killed or wounded. After exchanging fire for six hours both warring sides remained in the same positions. Iraqi losses in this area are estimated to be 20 killed and up to 40 wounded.

Near Basra the British troops pushed the Iraqi defense lines on the Fao peninsula but were unable to capture the entire peninsula. The British advance was a maximum of 4 kilometers from the highway leading to Basra. Radio intercepts show that in this attack the Iraqis shot down a British helicopter. Additionally, two tanks and one APCs were destroyed by landmines. At least 2 [British] servicemen were killed, around 20 were wounded and 15 were captured by the Iraqis.

Exchange of fire continued in the area of the Basra airport. The Iraqis destroyed one coalition APC wounding two coalition soldiers. The Iraqi losses are difficult to estimate, but available information suggests that up to 20 Iraqi soldiers and local militia members might have been killed in the air and artillery strikes.

All attempts by the British troops to break through the Iraqi defenses from the south along the Al-Arab river have yielded not results. The British command reported that it is unable to storm Basra with the available forces and will require no less than two additional brigades and at least five additional artillery battalions. Thus, to avoid further casualties the British are adopting defensive tactics, while trying to maintain a tight blockade around Basra and trying to improve their positions with small localized attacks. The British are also maintaining pressure on the Iraqi positions on the Fao peninsula.

The psychological levels among the city's residents, according to interviews, is far from critical. The Iraqi military made several public announcements to the residents offering them a chance to leave the city. However, most of the residents do not want to leave, fearing the faith of the Palestinian refugees, who, after losing their homes, gained pariah status in the Arab world. Basra's residents were extremely depressed by the video footage aired by the coalition command showing Iraqis on the occupied territories fighting for food and water being distributed by the coalition soldiers. The city's population views this as a sample of what awaits them if the Americans come...

At the Al-Kuwait airport the unloading of the 4th Mechanized Infantry Division is continuing and is expected to be completed by the night of April 1. During a night flight one of the US military transport aircraft requested an emergency landing. What happened to the plane is still being determined.

Currently the coalition command is deciding how better use the 4th Infantry Division. The complete deployment [of the division] and preparations for combat are expected to take at least 10 days. However, the combat units require immediate reinforcements and it is possible that the [4th Infantry} Division will be joining combat in stages, as the units become ready. This will mean a considerable reduction of the Division's combat effectiveness.

A report was obtained, prepared by the Al-Kuwait-based [coalition] Psychological Operations Tactical Group for the [coalition] Special Ground Forces Command. The report analyzed the effectiveness of the information and propaganda war. According to the report, analysis of the television broadcasts, intercepted radio communications, interrogations of Iraqi POWs show that psychologically the Iraqis are now "more stable and confident" that they were during the last days before the war. This, according to the report, is due primarily to the coalition's numerous military failures.

"...Following nervousness and depression [of the Iraqis] during the first days of the war we can now observe a burst of patriotic and nationalistic feelings. ...There has been a sharp increase in the number of Iraqi refugees, who left the country before the war, returning to Iraq. A "cult of war" against the US and the UK is now emerging among the Iraqis...", the report states. [Reverse translation from Russian]

[Coalition] analysts believe that if this attitude of the Iraqis is not changed within the next 7 days, a "resistance ideology" may take over the Iraqi minds, making the final [coalition] victory even more difficult. In response to this report the US Army Psychological Operations command decided to combine all Iraqi POWs into large groups and to distribute the resulting video footage to the world media. A more active use of the Iraqi opposition was suggested for propaganda work in the occupied villages. The same opposition members will be used to create video footage of the "repented" Iraqi POWs and footage of the local [Iraqi] population "opposing Saddam."

Radio communications intercepted during the last five days suggest that the coalition is using Israeli airfield for conducting night air strikes against Iraq. Combat aircraft are taking off regularly from the [Israeli] Hatzerim and the Navatim airbases do not return to the same bases but fly toward the border with Jordan while maintaining complete radio silence.

Possibly these are just Israeli Air Force exercises, However, [Russian] radio intercept and radar units observe increased intensity of radio communications coming from the Jordanian air force and air defense communication centers during such overflights, as well as changes in the operating modes of the US Army "Patriot" tracking radars deployed in Jordan. This indicates the Israeli airbases as used as forward airfield or that some of the coalition air force units are based there. Normally the IAF F-15I fighter-bombers and A-4N strike aircraft operate from the Hatzerim airbase and the F-16 fighter-bombers operate from the Nevatim base.

Experts believe that these airbases may be used by the F-117 stealth bombers "officially" based at the Al-Udaid airbase in Qatar. Using these two locations minimizes the risk to the F-117s by allowing them to fly along the left bank of the Euphrates (in the direction of Turkey) and to avoid the dangerous maneuvering over Iraq.

The destruction of the telephone stations in Baghdad did nothing to disrupt the communications of the Iraqi army. The coalition command acknowledged this fact after analyzing the dense [Iraqi] radio traffic. Because of that the USAF was ordered to employ the most powerful available [conventional] munitions against predetermined strategic targets. This attacks will be carried out immediately before renewing ground advance.

(source: iraqwar.ru, 03-29-03, translated by Venik)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#296. To: All (#295)

Reviewing ground operations [in Iraq] analysts conclude that the desert terrain and the resulting inability of the Iraqis to fight outside of towns and villages provide the coalition with its main strategic advantage. Complete air dominance allows [the coalition troops] locating and engaging Iraqi positions and armor at maximum distance using precision-guided munitions not available to the Iraqis, while remaining outside of the range of the Iraqi weapons. Considering the course of this war and the tactics used by the coalition, [Russian military] analysts find this tactics to be far removed from the realities of modern warfare and designed exclusively against a technologically much weaker opponent. Such tactics is unimaginable on the European theater of combat with its woodlands and cross-country terrain. Foreseeing the possibility of a future military standoff between the US and North Korea the analysts are certain that the US cannot hope for a military victory on the Korean Peninsula without the use of nuclear weapons.

(source: iraqwar.ru, 04-03-03, translated by Venik)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:38:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#297. To: All (#296)

The beginning of the Battle of Saddam Int'l:

April 4, 2003, 1507hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow -

By the morning of April 4 the situation on the US-Iraqi front showed a tendency toward stabilization. As the forward coalition units reach Baghdad they fulfill their primary orders outlined by the coalition command. During the four days of the advance elements of the US 3rd Mechanized Infantry Division have bypassed from the east the Iraqi defenses at Karabela and, without encountering any resistance, advanced around 140 kilometers along the Karabela-Baghdad highway and reached the Iraqi capital. However, the goals of this attack will be fully achieved only when the US Marine brigades, now advancing along the left bank of the Tigris, reach the southeastern outskirts of Baghdad.

All indications are that the breakthrough by the 1st Brigade of the 3rd Mechanized Infantry Division toward the Baghdad international airport, although a significant thrust forward, did not come as a surprise to the Iraqi command. The US units occupying the airport area did not encounter here any significant resistance (the airport was guarded by no more than 2-3 Iraqi companies without any heavy weapons) nor did they see any indication that the Iraqis were even planning on defending the airport. Except for the line of trenches along the airport's perimeter the US troops found no other defensive structures. The airport was clear from all aircraft with the exception of a few old fuselages and a passenger plane (possible belonging to a Jordanian airline company), which did not have time to leave the airport before the flight restrictions were announced by the coalition with the beginning of the war.

Currently the coalition group of forces in the airport area number up to 4,000 troops, up to 80 tanks and about 50 artillery systems. It should be expected that several helicopter squadrons from the 101st Airborne Division will be deployed here in the next several hours.

According to electronic surveillance the coalition command in Qatar order the attacking US forces to halt on at least three occasions. The command ordered additional reconnaissance to be done in the airport area fearing there may carefully concealed Iraqi units and extensive defenses. The coalition command issued the final order to capture the airport only until the coalition reconnaissance units contacted the command headquarters directly from the airport terminal. The Iraqi forces protecting the airport offered little resistance and after a few exchanges of fire withdrew toward the city. Communication was lost with one of the coalition units protecting the flanks of the advancing column. It is still being determined whether this unit got lost or if it encountered an ambush.

Around 0800hrs the US positions [in the airport area] were attacked by the militia forces probably from among the local population. The militia was dispersed by tank and APC fire.

The 2nd brigade of the [3rd Mechanized Infantry] Division reached the southern outskirts of Baghdad and is currently located near the intersection of the Baghdad-Amman and Baghdad-Karabela highways.

The coalition claims of "completely destroying" the "Media" ("Al Madina al Munavvara") and the "Hammurali" Republican Guard divisions of the 2nd Republican Guard Corps received no confirmation. No more than 80 destroyed Iraqi armored vehicles were found along the coalition's route of advance, which corresponds to about 20% of a single standard Iraqi Republican Guard division.

It has been determined that only a few forward elements of the "Hammurali" Division participated in combat while the entire division withdrew toward Baghdad. A single brigade of the "Medina" division was involved in combat. The brigade was split in two groups during fighting and withdrew toward Baghdad and toward Karabela to join the main forces of the ["Medina"] division.

Equally unimpressive are the numbers of the Iraqis captured by the coalition. In four days of advance the US troops captured just over 1,000 people only half of whom, according to the reports by the US field commander, can be considered regular troops of the Iraqi army. There are virtually no abandoned or captured Iraqi combat vehicles. All of this indicates that so far there has been no breakthrough for the coalition; Iraqi troops are not demoralized and the Iraqi command is still in control of its forces.

No significant changes occurred at other Iraqi resistance areas.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#298. To: All (#297)

April 5: Resistance at the Airport mis read by American Commanders:

April 5, 2003, 1357hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow - The situation on the US-Iraqi front is characterized by gradual reduction of American offensive activity. After the 3rd Mechanized Infantry Division tank forces had marched towards Baghdad and its vanguards reached the city from south and south-west, engineering fortification of their positions began, which indicates the end of the current stage of the campaign as well as the loss of offensive potential of American forces and necessity to rest and regroup. It is supposed that during the next two days the American command will attempt local strikes in order to improve and extend their positions on the south and, especially, south-west approaches to Baghdad (crossing the Baghdad –Samarra roadway) and begin bringing fresh forces from Kuwait.

As we supposed, during the last night Americans were moving 101st Airborne Division troops to help the 1st Mechanized Division that captured the airport of Baghdad yesterday morning. About 80 strike and transport helicopters and 500 marines were deployed there.

But all the efforts to reinforce the brigade with heavy armor failed as Iraqi started powerful artillery strikes at the transport routes and organized mobile firing groups on the roads. After reports about losing 3 tanks and 5 APCs on the route the American command had to pause the movement of the reinforcements by land.

Yesterday’s estimates of the forces concentrated here were overstated. After analysis of intercepted radio communications and reports of American commanders it was specified that at the airport there were only parts of the 1st brigade troops, up to 2 enforced battalions with the help of a self-propelled artillery division 3 thousand soldiers and officers strong, 60 tanks and about 20 guns.

Another battalion enforced with artillery crossed the Baghdad-Amman roadway and came into position at the crossroads to the south of the airport, near Abu-Harraib.

Soldiers of the 1st Mechanized Brigade spent almost all the last night in chemical protection suits, waiting for Iraqi to use their “untraditional weapons”. Apart from that, their positions were constantly shot with artillery and machine gun fire. The brigade commanders report that the soldiers are ultimately dead-beat, and are constantly requesting reinforcements.

About 10 armored units including 4 tanks were lost in this area yesterday. Up to 9 men were killed, about 20 wounded, at least 25 reported missing. Moreover, the status of a patrol group that didn’t arrive at the airport remains unclear. It is supposed that it either moved away towards Khan-Azad and took defense there or got under an ambush and was eliminated. It is now being searched for.

The losses of Iraqi were up to 40 men killed, about 200 captured (including the airport technical personnel), 4 guns and 3 tanks.

Currently American reconnaissance squadrons are trying to dissect the suburban defenses with local sallies.

At the same time, marine troops are approaching the south-east borders of Baghdad. Their vanguard units reached the outskirts of Al-Jessir and immediately tried to capture the bridge over a feeder of the Tigris, the Divala river, but were met with fire and stopped.

Commander of the 1st Expeditionary Marine Squadron colonel Joe Dowdy was deposed yesterday morning. As was revealed, the colonel was deposed “…for utmost hesitation and loss of the initiative during the storm of An-Nasiriya…”. This way the coalition command in Qatar found an excuse for their military faults by that town. The “guilt”of the colonel was in his refusing to enter the town for almost 3 days and trying to suppress Iraqi resistance with artillery and aviation, trying to avoid losses. As a result, the command additionally had to move the 15th squadron of colonel Tomas Worldhouser there, who had to storm the ferriages for almost 6 days, with about 20 of his soldiers killed, 130 wounded and 4 missing. The 1st Expeditionary Squadron lost no men at An-Nasiriya, but 3 marines died, as were reported, “by inadvertency”and about 20 soldiers got wounded.

Despite the fact that marines were able to capture one of the bridges at the south outskirt of An-Nasiriya, the ferriage across the Euphrates is still risky. Fights in the city are going on.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#299. To: All (#298)

April 6: Battle of Saddam Int'l shocks US.

"April 6, 2003, 2000hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow - By the morning of April 6th an uncertain and quickly changing situation has developed. Coalition divisions are continuing to advance toward the city outskirts. The 22nd and 15th expeditionary marine squadrons are trying to break into the region of military airport “Rashid”from south-east. Iraqis are holding the line along the Diyala river and currently the marines cannot capture beach-heads on the right bank.

A hard situation has formed near the international airport. The day before yesterday the Iraqi minister of propaganda claimed that the coalition forces in this region would have been eliminated by this morning, and the Iraqi command ordered to storm the airport. At 10am it was attacked by 3 Republican Guards battalions enforced with militia troops. Americans requested artillery and aviation support. The battle lasted for almost 6 hours. After several unsuccessful attacks Iraqis managed to drive Americans back from the second runway to the airport building. Currently the coalition forces control the building itself and the new runway bordering to it. During the day the foes had to increase their strengths and deploy reinforcements. By the evening up to 2 regular Iraqi brigades and 2 thousand militiamen were fighting for the airport. Americans had to use all available forces of the 3rd Mechanized Division and 101st Airborne Division to repulse the attacks. Only assault aircraft and battle helicopters made more than 300 operation flights to this region.

During the fight Iraqis lost up to 20 tanks, 10 APC, about 200 men killed and up to 300 wounded. The American losses were up to 30 men killed, about 50 wounded, at least 4 tanks, 4 APC and 1 helicopter. But it is impossible to obtain the exact data yet. By this hour there have been more than 20 flights for evacuation of killed and wounded coalition soldiers and the command have requested ambulance aviation again.

The combat was so intense that commander of the 3rd Mechanized Division general-major Bufford Blunt had to issue an order to organize a false strike. Around 8am from Khan-Azad road junction an attack was organized in order to demonstrate tank vanguards of a large subdivision advancing toward Al-Daura from south. The group was able to reach the outskirts of the town near the Avajridge village. After entering the village the group was met by Republican Guards. In direct combat the group lost 2 tanks, 3 APC, 3 men killed, up to 10 wounded and, after two hours of fighting, withdrew to the main forces. Iraqis lost 4 tanks, 2 APC and up to 30 men killed.

By the evening the foes reduced their activity and were regrouping during the last night. Americans are rapidly fortifying their defense positions and deploying reinforcements to the airport region, increasing their forces at Khan-Azad and Abu-Harraib. Iraqis are moving anti-armor divisions closer to the city outskirts.

Despite the exchange of strikes there are no reasons to expect any serious attempts to capture the city in the nearest future. By numerical strength the coalition troops that have reached the city borders do not meet even the minimal requirements for storming and heavy urban fights. Coalition forces by Baghdad number up to 18-20 thousand men and can be enforced with no more than 3-5 thousand men while the minimal force necessary to capture a city like Baghdad equals from 80 to 100 thousand soldiers.

According to weather forecasts, in the coming day the weather may abruptly change to the worse. The wind is expected to intensify, visibility may reduce to 200-300 m.

All the claims made by aviation commander of the coalition, general Michael Mosley, about “…Iraqi army, as an organized structure consisting of large units, exists no longer…”are contrary to fact and, according to analytics, are probably connected with severe pressure put on the military command by American financial groups that desperately needed good news from the US-Iraqi front by the end of the financial week. In fact, the Republican Guards defending Baghdad have not lost even 5% of their numerical strength and military equipment. Most of those losses were due to bombardments and not land combats. The total losses of Iraqi army since the beginning of the war have not exceeded 5-8% of their defensive potential. This means the main battles are still to be seen.

The situation in other sectors of the US-Iraqi front will be summarized closer to this evening.

(source: iraqwar.ru, 04-06-03, translated by Necroman)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:50:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#300. To: All (#299) (Edited)

Russia evacs Embassy. US readies Nuclear.

"April 6, 2003, 2000hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow - Around Baghdad skirmishes between coalition forces and Iraqi divisions are going on. As we said before, during the next two days the coalition troops will extend the zone of blockade to the west and north-west using local strikes. Currently a part of the 1st brigade of the 3rd Mechanized Division is outflanking the city from Abu-Harraib, trying to reach the south outskirts and seize a strategic bridge across the Tigris at the north of the Tunis area (Salakh-Khasan).

Fire has not stopped near the Airport, both sides are using artillery. According to the most recent data the rush of the coalition forces toward to the southern borders of Baghdad, though expected by the Iraqi command, was tactically surprise. Hidden in the interiors of the city, parts of the Iraqi army were unable to leave their covered positions, advance and face the enemy. There arouse confusion that led to disorganization of the Iraqi squadrons that engaged their rivals “on the move”, without proper reconnaissance and concentration of forces. According to specified information in different conflicts and during the assault of the airport up to 400 Iraqi soldiers were killed, 25 tanks and 12 guns were lost.

But the coalition command also faced serious problems. Powerful Iraqi attacks aimed at the airport immobilized most of the force breaking towards Baghdad and it turned out necessary to bring reinforcements from other sectors of the front in order to succeed. In particular, up to 2 battalions of the 101st Airborne Division located by An-Nasiriya and An-Najaf and at least 1 battalion of the 82nd Division were moved there. Americans tolls at the south and south-east of Baghdad for the last 24 hours amount to: up to 30 men killed and at least 80 wounded, 15 soldiers are known to be missing. The Americans lost at least 8 tanks and 5 APC.

Marine squadrons are still incapable of breaking down defenses by the Diyala river. Currently the vanguards are trying to outflank the city from east and seize the bridge in the New Baghdad region. There are not enough coalition forces to block such a city, and the troops blocking An-Nasiriya, An-Najaf, Al-Kut and Al-Diwaniya were given categorical orders to break down the Iraqi resistance in the next 3 days, take control of those areas and advance toward Baghdad to join the blockade.

To organize offensive against Karbala the blocking troops were enforced with one expeditionary marine squadron, and another storm started this morning. There is no information about casualties from this region yet. Analogous tasks were set before the British command at the south of Iraq near Basra. For the past 2 days the British have tried to overcome Iraqi defenses from An-Zubair and the Manavi regions 3 times, but they still cannot break down the resistance. This morning an armored column was able to come up to a strategic cross-road near Akhavat-Rezan, but got under heavy fire and had to retreat. Yesterday and during this morning the British lost at least 3 armored units, 2 men killed and 6 wounded.

The coalition command and the foreign policy departments of Russia and USA are now making every effort to close all the information related to the Russian embassy getting fired near Baghdad.

Sources claim that the embassy ceased its activities in many respects because of the danger of an air strike on the embassy. The American command was utterly irritated by the presence of the Russian embassy in Baghdad and believed that some technical intelligence equipment was deployed there that provided the Iraqis with information. Moreover, some officers in the coalition HQ in Qatar openly claimed that it was on the territory of the Russian embassy that the “jammers”hampering the high-precision weapons around Baghdad were operated. Yesterday morning the Secretary of State Colin Powell demanded of immediate evacuation of the embassy from the Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs Igor Ivanov. Yesterday evening the Russian minister informed the Americans that on the 6th of April the embassy column would be leaving Baghdad heading for the Syrian border. This gave rise to dissatisfaction among the State Department officials who suggested that the column should move to Jordan.

The coalition special operations HQ were sure that the embassy column would contain secret devices taken from military equipment captured by Iraqis. In this connection one cannot shut out the possibility of “revenge”from the coalition command. Moreover, experts claim that the purpose of this armed assault could be to damage a few cars where the Russians would have to leave some of the salvage. This is also indicated by the fact that neither the ambassador himself nor journalists in the column were among the injured. In this case we can expect that this action was committed by coalition special forces and the column was shot using Russian-made weapons to conceal the origin of the attackers to blame the Iraqis afterwards. According to the most recent data the column got ambushed almost 30 km to the west from the city on the territory occupied by the coalition, but moving fast it escaped from fire and made a few more kilometers where it was blocked by military jeeps. On attempting to establish contact with their crews it received fire again, then the jeeps vanished.

Today at 5pm a phone conversation between president of Russia Vladimir Putin and president of the USA George W. Bush took place. Before this conversation, his assistant for National Security Affairs Condoleezza Rice, who came into Moscow today, had consulted Bush. At this time Rice is meeting Igor Ivanov, the head of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The details of this meeting are unknown so far, but we can suppose that very soon some “unknown squadrons”will be made responsible for the incident and the situation will be dampened to the maximum.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#301. To: All (#300) (Edited)

April 7, 2003, 1914hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow -

The situation on the US-Iraqi front during the morning-night on April 7th was characterized by extreme fierceness of combat. During the night-morning the coalition units continued to encircle the city from west and east. The 2nd brigade of the 3rd Mechanized Division, as was revealed before, after a five-hour march reached the northern approaches of Baghdad and occupied the region bordering to the strategic bridge Salah-Khasan, but was unable to seize the bridge itself because of a heavy missile and artillery barrage. Up to 10 men were killed, at least 20 wounded. In the morning the brigade lost its communication center destroyed by a tactical Iraqi missile.

April 7, 2003, 2400hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow (UPDATE) - By this evening the situation on the US-Iraqi front in the environs of Baghdad has become less tense. All the American units have returned to their initial positions corresponding to the morning of April 7th. Currently artillery and aviation occasionally open fire at the city. The details of today’s raid of the 1st tank brigade of the 3rd Mechanized Division column to the central district of Baghdad are now available. Radio surveillance data allow us to contend that it was a joint action of the American Special Forces and the army command.

By 3pm the remains of the commando assault groups forced their way to the American positions and at 15:30 their common withdrawal began. At 5pm the American troops left the city. The exact casualties of the American Special Forces remain unclear. According to communications between American commanders the status of least 15 men is unknown. Whether they are dead, captured or hiding in the city is still obscure. It was reported that the commandos captured a high officer but during the rush he was killed and left in the city.

The American command criticized the raid. General Tommy Franks who came to the airport region called the level of the casualties during this local operation “unacceptable” and the results “paltry”. Yet it was noted that the Iraqi command reacted on bringing the forces into Baghdad “with an inexplicable delay” and the actions of the counter-attacking Iraqi units “uncoordinated”. American commanders believe that it happened due to “severe malfunction of the whole communication and control system”. It is still unclear what damaged Iraqi communications. According to some data most of the high command left the city after it had been blocked and moved to a reserve command center located in the northern regions of Iraq while the local command remaining in the city has not taken control over the situation yet. Some officers in the coalition HQ presume that if this is the case then even storming Baghdad will not finish this war and a “campaign to the north”, where quite an effective and large group of Iraqi troops remains, might be necessary.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#302. To: All (#301)

April 8

According to reports by American commanders the resistance of the Iraqis does not make an impression of them acting under a united organized command and looks more like operations of autonomous groups. Moreover, the Americans note very limited use of Iraqi tanks and artillery. There are almost no serious artificial obstacles and strong points prepared for a long defense. This does not give grounds to consider Baghdad prepared for a long siege. And, under such level of resistance the battles for Baghdad may end in 5-7 days. But in spite of certain success, the US forces are still unable to break the Iraqi opposition. Even units fortified at the outskirts are being attacked and are constantly receiving fire.

It is still unknown where the top political and military Iraqi leaders are. Out of the high-ranked officials only the Minister of Information Mohammad Saed Sahaf is certainly present in the city.

According to arriving information, at about 11am an American helicopter was shot down over the southern suburb of Baghdad. The US command has confirmed their loss of a heavy attack plane A-10 at Baghdad.

This morning in Basra marine units began to “clean up” the old city blocks where remains of the Iraqi garrison held the line yesterday. Currently, according to the first reports, the advancing marines do not face any resistance and there is a high probability of the Iraqis having abandoned their positions and left the city or mixed with Basra citizens when darkness fell.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#303. To: All (#302)

April 8 Ramzaj's last report:

"April 8, 2003, 1846hrs MSK (GMT +4 DST), Moscow - Events of the last 2 days have made further work of Ramzaj group in its current format impossible.

With the embassy personnel and journalists having left Iraq and most of Iraqi information services evacuated from Baghdad, analysis of the situation in Baghdad and Iraq as a whole becomes ineffective.

The quickly changing course of street fights leaves any informational updates far behind. Direct TV broadcasts are far more evident than any analytics. At the same time, we do not have the right to reveal classified, “top secret” information.

Apart from that, our actions meet increasing opposition from the official quarts and in fact are turning into confrontation the outcome of which is not difficult to forecast.

Therefore we have to discontinue our work and thank everybody for taking part in the project.

In conclusion we would like to say:

All the “updates” came out from a compact group formed a few years ago in the framework of a special service. The group used to work for the government for a long time but all its members have left the service and now act as an independent analytical group that has kept some capabilities. This gives an answer to the most common question – about the sources of our information.

We participated in the ongoing events on a “non-profit” basis and had no object other than to stand the US-British informational blockade of the war in Iraq.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   10:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#304. To: All (#303) (Edited)

All the information the Russian side has about the fire opened at the Russian embassy column indicate that shooting at the diplomats and journalists was not an accidental event but rather a planned action of frightening and retribution. This version is also supposed by several today’s attempts of Americans to stop the column on its route and carefully examine the diplomats’ cars and accompanied baggage. The Russian Foreign Ministry and the high-ranking officials keep silent. On the meeting of the President of Russia Vladimir Putin and the National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice they agreed “to forget about this regrettable indicent” and “prevent any impact on the Russian-American partnership”…

(source: iraqwar.ru, 04-07-03, translated by Necroman)

right in here, the night of April 7 Morning April 8,

Baghdad loses electricity. The Electrical Grid is never the same again....;}

http://www.jimpivonka.com/newsmpt/news094.htm

Al Jazeera: Tareq was killed in Baghdad. Eight years ... Dima Tahboub: Tareq was killed on April 8, 2003, nine years next April. His death ... A most beloved husband, father and son had been lost for good.

www.aljazeera.com/indepth.../2011121085517490112.html

BAGHDAD Share this on: Facebook Twitter Digg delicious reddit MySpace StumbleUpon LinkedIn April 17, 2003

Power returned to the Iraqi capital on Thursday, if only for short periods of time and in scattered areas, a senior U.S. military official told CNN.

"Over the last four to five days we've been meeting with the top electrical engineers of Baghdad and the surrounding area to try to get the electrical grid back up," Marine Maj. Don Broton told CNN.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   11:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: All (#304)

First Confirmation from NPR that Electrical/Phone Grid Down

April 7, 2003

www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1223721

And never the same again.

"Iraq was going to change all that. In one place on Earth, the theory would finally be put into practice in its most perfect and uncompromised form. A country of 25 million would not be rebuilt as it was before the war; it would be erased, disappeared. In its place would spring forth a gleaming showroom for laissez-faire economics, a utopia such as the world had never seen. Every policy that liberates multinational corporations to pursue their quest for profit would be put into place: a shrunken state, a flexible workforce, open borders, minimal taxes, no tariffs, no ownership restrictions. The people of Iraq would, of course, have to endure some short-term pain: assets, previously owned by the state, would have to be given up to create new opportunities for growth and investment. Jobs would have to be lost and, as foreign products flooded across the border, local businesses and family farms would, unfortunately, be unable to compete. But to the authors of this plan, these would be small prices to pay for the economic boom that would surely explode once the proper conditions were in place, a boom so powerful the country would practically rebuild itself.....;}"

harpers.org/archive/2004/09/0080197

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   11:15:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#306. To: mcgowanjm (#304)

the top electrical engineers of Baghdad and the surrounding area to try to get the electrical grid back up,"

They're throwing rose petals at our feet.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-03   11:53:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: hondo68 (#306)

And since April 7 and the Battle of Baghdad Airport, Baghdad's Electrical Grid has never been the same.

Now what could cause that?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-03   12:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: All (#11)

April 3 2003 :

"The BBC's Andrew Gilligan in Baghdad, whose activities and reports are monitored by Iraqi authorities, has visited the airport and says there is no sign of increased military activity or any US forces. "

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   9:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: All (#308)

US Myers raises possibility of isolating Baghdad

By Sean Loughlin and Jamie McIntyre CNN Washington Bureau | April 4, 2003

Pentagon officials raised the possibility Thursday that coalition forces might try to isolate Baghdad and render the regime of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein "irrelevant," avoiding urban warfare within the city to topple the government. Asked at a Pentagon briefing whether coalition forces were gearing up for an urban conflict within Baghdad, Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, suggested that might not be the case. "The tactical situation could be very different from what we suppose," Myers said.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: All (#309)

Few in Baghdad believe these recurrent fires were provoked by the "remnants of Saddam's regime" - as goes the official Washington line. They don't know for sure for whom the arsonists are working. But they are asking themselves three questions. Who profits from the destruction of the whole infrastructure of the Iraqi state? Who profits from the destruction of Iraq's invaluable cultural wealth? And why are Americans soldiers just blank-stared, gum-chewing spectators of all this pyromania?

(©2003 Asia Times Online Co,

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: All (#310)

``What you have is the making of a humanitarian catastrophe,'' said Sid Balman, spokesman for InterAction, an umbrella group of 165 relief organisations.

Baghdad went dark on Thursday for the first time since the war began on March 20, just as spearhead troops of America's 3rd Infantry Division closed in on the international airport on the capital's south-western outskirts.

U.S. officials denied targeting the electric grid. ``We didn't do it. It's as simple as that,''' said Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks, chief spokesman for the U.S. Central Command in Qatar.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#312. To: All (#311) (Edited)

This is bullshite:

"I would love to give them a hug," said Richard Korn, whose only child, Captain Edward J. Korn, died April 3, 2003, in a burst of friendly fire. "I think they need it.

"Captain Korn, a member of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division from Fort Stewart, Ga., was killed as his unit and others were attacking Iraqi positions on a two-lane road about 15 miles southeast of Baghdad.

The convoy of American tanks and armored vehicles was stopped on the road when they spotted an Iraqi tank, a Russian-made T-72. They fired and the enemy tank exploded.

As the vehicle burned, Korn and a sergeant apparently dismounted and walked to the tree line near the tank, searching for Iraqi positions, Major Kent Rideout, the senior officer on the scene, told the Los Angeles Times.

At some point, Korn spotted a second tank and sent the sergeant back for an antitank rocket before going on alone.

Korn was wearing a brown T-shirt, a flak vest that was left open and no helmet, according to Rideout, who was scanning the tree line for more Iraqi positions.

"Out of the corner of my eyes, I saw behind the tank what looked to be an old campfire," Rideout told The Times. "I could see tea or coffee steaming, sleeping bags, chickens. It had all the hallmarks of a place where people were living. I put 2 and 2 together that this was a place a tank crew was living.

"All of a sudden, we saw movement. Someone dropped down, like he was going to fire, and then stood up and got behind another T-72."

Rideout's driver also indicated he saw an enemy. He leveled his M-16 and the major ordered him to fire.

"He fired one shot," Rideout recalled. "I'll never get over it. It was 200 to 250 yards away. He dropped him. I slapped him [the driver] on the head and said, 'That's the greatest shot I've ever seen.' "

The shot had hit Korn, a Desert Storm veteran and Bronze Star recipient who had left Fort Knox, Kentucky, to volunteer for war duty in March.

A Bradley fighting vehicle from Korn's unit also opened fire on the second Iraqi tank, some of its 25-millimeter rounds striking the fallen soldier.

"This was the worst day of my Army career," Rideout said. "No doubt, the worst day. I get to go home with that. I get to live with that for the rest of my life."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: mcgowanjm (#312)

Why is it bullshite?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-04   10:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: All (#312)

And someone else thinks the above is bull shite as well:

"Korn's father, Richard Korn, said his son was killed when somebody on a Bradley infantry fighting vehicle opened fire on the tank, thinking Korn was an Iraqi soldier.

The Army did not return phone calls about Korn. A press release said only that the incident was under investigation.

Korn blamed the incident on a lack of communication and said he felt sorry for the soldier who shot his son."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:23:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: All (#314)

www.hindu.com/thehindu/20.../.../2003040405860100.htm

Apr 4, 2003 – BAGHDAD April 3. The Iraqi capital plunged into darkness tonight as loud explosions rocked the city and tracer rounds raced through the sky near the airport.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#316. To: All (#315)

8. Sgt. 1st Class Wilbert Davis, Alaska, age 40, died April 3, 2003. Davis was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 69th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

9. Staff Sergeant George E. Buggs, S.C., age 31, died March 23, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Co., 3rd Forward Support Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

10. Private First Class Wilfred D. Bellard, La., age 20, died April 4, 2003, Charlie Battery, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

11. Specialist Daniel F. Cunningham, Jr., Maine, age 33, died April 4, 2003, Charlie Battery, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

12. Private 2 Devon D. Jones, Calif., age 19, died April 4, 2003, Charlie Battery, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

13. Captain Tristan N. Aitken, Capt. Tristan N. Aitken, Pa.,age 31, died April 4, 2003, HHB, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

14. Sgt. 1st Class Paul Ray Smith, Fla., age 33, died April 4, 2003, Bravo Co. 11th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

15. Staff Sergeant Stevon A. Booker, Pa., age 34, died April 5, 2003, Alpha Co, 1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

16. Private First Class Gregory P. Huxley, Jr., N.Y., age 19, died April 6, 2003, Bravo Co., 317th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

17. Staff Sergeant Lincoln D. Hollinsaid, Ill., age 27, died April 7, 2003, Bravo Co., 11th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

18. 1st Lieutenant Jeffrey J. Kaylor, Va., age 24, died April 7, 2003, Charlie Battery, lst Battalion, 39th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

19. Private First Class Anthony S. Miller, Texas, age 19, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division.

20. Specialist George A. Mitchell, Jr., Md., age 35, died April 7, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division.

21. Sergeant Henry L. Brown, Miss., age 22, died April 8, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

22. Sgt. 1st Class John W. Marshall, Calif., age 50, died April 8, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 3rd Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

23. Private First Class Jason M. Meyer, Mich., age 23, died April 8, 2003, Company B, 11th Engineer Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

24. Staff Sergeant Robert A. Stever, Ore., age 36, died April 8, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 3rd Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

25. Private First Class Marlin T. Rockhold, Ohio, age 23, died May 8, 2003, Bravo Co., 3rd Battalion, 7th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

26. Sergeant Michael T. Crockett, Ga., age 27, of Soperton, Ga., died July 14 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 3rd Battalion, 7th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

27. Specialist Joel L. Bertoldie, Mo., age 20, died July 18, 2003, Headquarters, Headquarters Company, 4th Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

28. Staff Sergeant Nathaniel Hart, Jr., Ga., age 29, died July 28, 2003, 416th Transportation Company, 260th Quartermaster Battalion, 3rd Infantry Division.

29. Private First Class Charles M. Sims, Fla., age 18, died Oct. 3, 2003, 549th Military Police, Co., 3rd Military Police Battalion, (attached to 1st AD for OIF1)

30. Captain James F. Adamouski, Va., age 29, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

31. Specialist Matthew G. Boule, Mass., age 22, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

32. Chief Warrant Officer 4 Eric A. Halvorsen, Vt., age 40, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

33. Chief Warrant Officer 2 Scott Jamar, Texas, age 32, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

34. Sergeant Michael F. Pedersen, Mich., age 26, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

35. Chief Warrant Officer 3 Eric A. Smith, Calif., age 41, died April 2, 2003, Bravo Co, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

36. Captain Edward J. Korn, Ga., age 31, died April 2003, 64th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

37. Specialist Ryan G. Carlock, Ill., age 25, died Sept. 9, 2003, 416th Transportation Co., 24th Corps Support Group, 3rd Infantry Division.

38. Private 2 Kelley S. Prewitt, Ala., age 24, died April 6, 2003, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 2nd Battalion, 69th Armor Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.

39. Staff Sergeant Terry W. Hemingway, N.J., age 39, died April 10, 2003, C Company, 1st Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Benning.

40. 1st Sergeant Joe J. Garza, Texas, age 43, died April 28, 2003, Headquarters Co. 1st Battalion, 30th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Benning.

41. Specialist Donald S. Oaks, Jr., died April 2003, Delta Co., 1st Battalion, 39th Field Artillery, 3rd Infantry Division.

42. Sergeant Todd J. Robbins, Mich., age 33, died April 2003, Charlie Battery, 13th Field Artillery (from Fort Sill, Okla., attached to 3rd Inf. Div.)

43. Sgt. 1st Class Randall S. Rehn, Colo., age 36, died April 2003, Charlie Battery, 13th Field Artillery (from Fort Sill, Okla., attached to 3rd Inf. Div.)

Artillery fire could be heard near the Saddam International Airport, 16 km southwest of downtown Baghdad. Tracer rounds raced through the sky and shells exploded in the air. A Reuters reporter said dozens of Iraqis, including civilians and soldiers, were killed in the village of Furat near the airport today evening in what witnesses said was a U.S. rocket strike. He said more than 120 people were wounded in the attack on the village, which lies between the airport and the Iraqi capital. Iraqi officials put the toll at 83. In Baghdad, the explosions persisted for nearly 15 minutes before the power went off at about 8 p.m. — the first widespread electrical failure in the capital since the U.S.-led bombardment began two weeks ago. The entire city appeared without power. The reason for the loss of power was not immediately clear.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: All (#316)

David Bloom. Embedded with the 3rd Infantry Division. Died April 5 2003....;}

"*

With newspapers, magazines and articles printed from the Internet sprawled across his tray table and bed at Walter Reed Army Medical Center yesterday, the 23-year-old Northeast Baltimore native pointed to a picture of an unnamed soldier on a stretcher in a recent issue of Newsweek. That's him.

And there's the April 6 Atlanta Journal-Constitution, with a front-page column by reporter Ron Martz under the headline, "I owe these heroes my life." That's Schafer, too.

Schafer, part of the 3rd Infantry Division based at Fort Stewart in Georgia, was headed to attack Baghdad International Airport on the morning of April 5 when the tank in front of his was hit and couldn't be saved. Making way for the displaced soldiers, he moved over to the personnel carrier where the Atlanta reporter was riding.

Schafer's orders en route: "Nothing is friendly out here. We were firing at anything that moved."

Shots came flying. His buddy, Christopher Shipley, was hit, Schafer thinks in the head. Then he was hit as well - how many times, the doctors don't even know.

"I just know that my arm is broke, and I got holes in my back," Schafer said.

Shipley survived, meeting up with Schafer at a hospital in Rota, Spain."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   10:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#318. To: All (#317) (Edited)

Remembering David Bloom - CNN.com - Transcripts transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0304/06/rs.00.htmlCached

Apr 6, 2003 – He was embedded with the Army's 3rd Infantry Division and died in a ... now is CNN's Walter Rodgers, with the 7th Cavalry, south of Baghdad.

" KURTZ: And finally, Walt Rodgers, is it any more difficult for you in terms of the operational security now that you're not just rolling through the desert but on the outskirts of Baghdad, in terms of what you feel that you can report and not report? We all saw the sort of embarrassing episode involving Geraldo Rivera, who was asked to leave Iraq for reporting sensitive information about troop locations.

Are you censoring yourself even more than usual now?

RODGERS: Not at all. And let me comment on the rules. As in every avenue of life, the rules, the laws are made to protect us. The Pentagon set out the rules. Those rules protect us. You obey the rules, you enjoy the protection of the rules and the protection of the law.

You disregard the rules, it's like somebody going down the highway at 120 miles an hour. Law is there, rules are there to protect everyone. They have worked well when they're obeyed -- Howard.

KURTZ: Walt Rodgers, outskirts of Baghdad, thanks very much.

I want to read a statement I was just handed by CNN -- excuse me, from President Bush, through CNN. The president mourns the loss of David Bloom and extends his sympathies to the Bloom family, just as he continues to mourn the loss -- excuse me -- of all military and others who have lost their lives in Iraq during Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Mark Thompson, you're down at the Pentagon every day for "TIME" magazine. These embedded correspondents, the reports are coming in often hours, sometimes even days before the Pentagon itself is able to confirm this information.

Is there starting to be resentment among Rumsfeld and company about the embedded experiment?

MARK THOMPSON, "TIME" MAGAZINE: I think what's interesting about it, Howie, is that the Pentagon in some way likes getting it early. When I've been out with troops, with the press, with the DOD media pool, we report back to the military. They're eager for our reports, because it's a check on what they're being told in their own chain of command.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   11:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#319. To: All (#318)

CNN Walter Rogers April 3 2003:

"We have seen quite a few dead Iraqi soldiers by the road [Thursday]. What we noticed was all of the dead Iraqi soldiers had gas masks. They are moving in anything but what you would call an organized formation. The Iraqis we see are generally driving pickup trucks, or they are riding about in old Soviet Union vintage armored vehicles, which are no match for the armor-piercing shells that the tanks are firing.

This armored column has been under almost constant fire. When we first crossed the Euphrates River, it was pretty barren in terms of not much of a civilian population. As we pushed closer to Baghdad, we began to see that the Iraqi population was indeed welcoming the U.S. Army convoy and welcoming them northward."

LMFAO The welcome of almost constant fire...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   11:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#320. To: All (#319) (Edited)

Friday, April 4, 2003 Posted: 1:49 AM EST (0649 GMT)

The bombing began about 2 a.m. Friday [5 p.m. Thursday EST]. One explosion was so powerful that it lit up the blacked-out capital, and a fire engulfed a structure.

• Myers: U.S. forces did not knock out power to large areas of Baghdad late Thursday.

My Edit: Yes, Myers, you did.

(CNN) -- With U.S. boots on the ground at Saddam International Airport, sustained explosions rocked Baghdad on Friday morning, illuminating the darkened capital where the electric power is off and the power of the regime might be fading.

The bombardments came in waves, sometimes with explosions rocking the capital one after another for minutes on end. The bombing began about 2 a.m. Friday [5 p.m. Thursday EST]. One explosion was so powerful that it lit up the blacked-out capital, and a fire engulfed a structure.

Three hours later, the city shook from more multiple explosions, and antiaircraft fire shot into the sky.

American armored divisions launched the assault on the airport, 12 miles from the center of the Iraqi capital, as U.S.-led coalition troops advanced on the city.

The battle for the airport continued after dawn.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   11:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone (#310)

Who profits from the destruction of the whole infrastructure of the Iraqi state? Who profits from the destruction of Iraq's invaluable cultural wealth?

We found out that the Baathists profited from setting their own infrastructure on fire. We also found out that the Iraqi citizens believed they had a right to loot given the Baathists kept all the wealth. So they stormed every government facility. Weeks after the looting I saw plumbing "supplies" on sale on the street markets which were ripped out of Saddams' palaces and government buildings. We also saw kids selling Iraqi Army uniforms and equipment. As you went further south in Shia land the same items were being sold. If someone bought the gear and looted supplies in Iraqi dinar, you received change in Iranian currency. There was a lot going on before we even got there.

I too received Iranian currency when I bought sodas and pita bread for the men on a long convoy in Southern Iraq. The kid (a good capitalist) tried to sell me his donkey. I had no use for a donkey but did not want to insult the kid, so told him I really needed a camel. Showing the true business nature of the Arab, he told me to come back in two hours and he would sell me three camels:)

I slapped him on the shoulder and told him (he spoke good English) I would think about it. This was all before the insurgency (April to early June 2003). At that point the Iraqis were happy Saddam and the Baathists were out of power and expected us to have them hold elections immediately. Well leave it to the State Dept and politicians to screw that one up. There was a brief (2 month) period of opportunity we squandered. We should have loaded our equipment up and departed Iraq by the end of June at the latest.

Now addressing your post. No we did not burn and loot Iraq. We did have some bad actors and bad leaders who went after war "booty" like the looters, and most of them were punished. The ones who did not get caught red handed were caught by US Navy customs inspectors when the unit rotated out of Iraq to Kuwait. So American Soldiers did not torch Iraq. Sitting around with blank stares...yep that was a problem and here is the reason why:

Now that the book "Cobra II" has been published many know that the timeline to secure Iraq was to be in the August 2003 timeframe. Since the regime fell 4 months earlier than expected, the Troops operating in Baghdad were under the war time rules of engagement (ROE). The ROE and Law of Armed Conflict (LOAC) is clear you do not shoot unarmed civilians. When confronted with looters our Soldiers tried to stop them, but the Iraqis knew we would not shoot because of the ROE and LOAC. The LOAC does give provisions for an occupying force to stop looting with deadly force but that edict usually comes from a provisional government. When the provisional government adjusted the ROE there was a two week period where information was distributed via handbills, radio, TV and SAT TV (we may think the Iraqis were poor, but the majority of people there had SAT dishes). Once the word got out we would use deadly force, the looting stopped. However, the damage was already done. Looking back at this, I think the looting by Iraqi citizens could not be stopped. Even if our military leaders had "authority" to use deadly force on looters, I think they and our political leaders would not have enforced it. What is worse to see on CNN, Iraqis looting their own infrastructure or US Soldiers and Marines cutting down some poor Shia dude from Sadr City stealing leather chairs from the Dept of Agriculture? Yeah it was war and war is hell.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   11:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#322. To: mcgowanjm (#320)

• Myers: U.S. forces did not knock out power to large areas of Baghdad late Thursday.

My Edit: Yes, Myers, you did.

How do you know? Do you think the bombing knocked out the power? Here is an interesting tidbit. Saddam used to order black outs in Baghdad when there was unrest, protests etc. Not my words, but Saddam admitted this. He also admitted that he was more worried about a coup to overthrow him when the conflict started. So Saddam could have done it, he did it in the past. There is another theory that CIA operatives working with resistance figthers did this. Possible, but we found out from the book "Cobra II" that Saddam was on to the CIA operatives and he knew the military and political officials working with them. If the US hit the power grid, then ask yourself "for what purpose." It was clear in OPLAN Cobra II (as indicated in the book) that the US wanted to avoid infrastructure damage given the coalition wanted a functioning Iraqi economy after regime change.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   11:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#323. To: All (#320)

``What you have is the making of a humanitarian catastrophe,'' said Sid Balman, spokesman for InterAction, an umbrella group of 165 relief organisations.

Baghdad went dark on Thursday for the first time since the war began on March 20, just as spearhead troops of America's 3rd Infantry Division closed in on the international airport on the capital's south-western outskirts.

U.S. officials denied targeting the electric grid. ``We didn't do it. It's as simple as that,''' said Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks, chief spokesman for the U.S. Central Command in Qatar.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#324. To: All (#323)

Asked if he believed the price increases were a result of the halt in the oil imports from Iran, Tunc stated “what is its benefit? Why the measure has been taken? The energy minister should give a satisfying response to the nation. If they (the price hikes) are a result of this halt in imports from Iran, why did Turkey joined the move? What will be the benefit for Turkey? Because, as you know, relations between countries are based on national interests and reciprocity.”

“We used to talk of zero problem with neighbors, but we have ended up in having problems with all of them. Why we came to this point? None of us know. We don’t know what would be the results. We, as the BBP and the Turkish nation, want to know about this,” he concluded."

See what happens when you side with Israel?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#325. To: All (#324)

struggles amid continued weaknesses in Europe and the broader economic downturn.

Except for Israel:

Israel plans sovereign wealth fund - FT.com - Financial Times www.ft.com › WorldCached

Feb 19, 2012 – Israel has revealed plans to set up a new sovereign wealth fund, which will be ... weather the global financial crisis better than most other western economies. ... The broad financial goals of the fund, however, will be set by a ...

Israel-Concluding Statement of the 2012 Article IV Consultation ... www.imf.org/external/np/ms/2012/021312.htmCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Feb 13, 2012 – Israel's economy remains strong. Output fell for only two quarters during the "Great Recession", then ... The shekel is now broadly consistent with fundamentals and international reserves are appropriate by most measures. 2.

How is this possible from a desert state with no water and no energy.

That exports nothing but citrus and children.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#326. To: All (#325) (Edited)

David Bloom/NBC with the 3/7 Cavalry 3rd Infantry Division.

Dies April 6, 2003 somewhere near the Baghdad Airport.

Specialist Donald S. Oaks, Jr., died April (?) 2003, Delta Co., 1st Battalion, 39th Field Artillery, 3rd Infantry Division.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#327. To: All (#326)

Battle of Baghdad Airport April 3-8 2003

"You might now remember that on the night before the Battle of Baghdad began Saddam had promised us an attack… Well, he kept his promise. Friday night at 8:30 p.m. (Central), I was watching CNN showing the predawn of Saturday 5:30 morning half-way around the world in Baghdad…

All at once the skyline of the besieged city erupted with the flash and report of sustained explosions. The CNN people (Aaron Brown and Fredricka Whitfield) reacted with surprise, saying that U.S. public affairs hadn’t alerted them that there would be a major fire mission tonight. I immediately became anxious, knowing it exceedingly unlikely that public affairs hadn’t contacted affected media about a major fire mission in a choreographed war. “It probably wasn’t us doing the firing,” I thought.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#328. To: All (#327)

" In the next few minutes CNN’s reporter Walter Rodgers, embedded with the 3/7 Cavalry, attempted to make a report from the Baghdad Airport. Rodgers’ voice was indistinguishable because of the extreme background noise of artillery impacting around him, automatic small arms fire striking his vehicle and the shouts of the soldiers inside. It was the fog of war, no doubt about it. Aaron Brown offered no explanation of the noise, merely stiffly saying that the network was having technical difficulties.

Thankfully, Walter Rodgers’ luck held. A half hour later Fredericka and Aaron were off the clock and Larry King Live carried an interview between Rodgers and Lt. Col. Terry Ferrell – the commander of the very 3/7 Cavalry under fire at the airport. I had never seen the unit commander in two weeks of the TV war, so his sudden appearance was just more sad corroboration of my theory that we were getting the worst of it in the early Battle of Baghdad.

Lt. Col. Ferrell bravely tried to keep a straight face as he told Rodgers that all was well at the airport, but ended up in tears; Rodgers was too choked up to pick up the conversation. The put-up interview was yet more tragic corroboration of my sad analysis, and I began to cry along with Lieut. Col. Ferrell and Rodgers, for the boys of the 3/7 Cavalry, remembering that I had once been a young cavalryman, too.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#329. To: All (#328)

Every minute that the Jessica Lynch story was being aired...

Media duly continued to broadcast Jessica for two days, then bombings meant to get Saddam for a third; they broadcast everything but the Battle of Baghdad. On Wednesday, April 9, public affairs contrived a pulling down of Saddam Hussein’s statue and word generally spread that the battle (never shown before and never acknowledged as begun) was over. Frustrated by the failure of the American media to cover the much-awaited battle, millions of Americans turned to the English-version Al-Jazeera online for their news — and it promptly crashed (probably interrupted on White House orders).

The public had (and continues to have) no idea that the Iraqis did make their promised counterattack on April 5, at the Baghdad Airport and later across Baghdad, inflicting hundreds of casualties while fighting a rearguard action as they dispersed into the underground. On the basis of twenty years of military service, I infer that the Battle of Baghdad is what was raging every minute the media was airing or printing distraction.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#330. To: All (#329)

Most all of these soldiers were killed at the Battle of Baghdad Airport:

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WASHINGTON, April 5 (UPI) -- The Pentagon announced early Saturday that eight of the soldiers whose bodies were found during the April 1 rescue of Jessica Lynch were traveling with her in the convoy ambushed March 23 in southern Iraq. A ninth body was identified as a soldier from the Third Forward Support Group of the Third Infantry Division, but his name has not been released yet.

The eight soldiers who had been listed as missing were consequently listed as killed in action. Seven were from the 507th Maintenance Company, Ft. Bliss Texas.

The Pentagon announced two Marine helicopter pilots were killed in a crash in central Iraq Saturday. The crash was not a result of hostile fire. Their AH-1W "Super Cobra" attack helicopter went down at approximately 12:19 am Saturday a.m. Their families have not yet been notified of the deaths.

The latest announcements brought the total killed either by hostile fire or accidents to 75, eight of whom were not yet identified early Saturday, a Pentagon spokesman told United Press International.

The eight names switched from missing to dead are Sgt. George E. Buggs, 31, of Barnwell, S.C.; Master Sgt. Robert J. Dowdy, 38, of Cleveland, Ohio; Pvt. Ruben Estrella-Soto, 18, of El Paso, Texas; Spc. James M. Kiehl, 22, of Comfort, Texas; Chief Warrant Officer Johnny Villareal Mata, 35, of Amarillo, Texas; Pfc. Lori Ann Piestewa, 23, Tuba City, Ariz.; Pvt. Brandon U. Sloan, 19, of Cleveland, Ohio; Sgt. Donald R. Walters, 33, of Kansas City, Mo.;

Buggs was with the 3rd Division Support Battalion, Fort Stewart, Ga. and the rest were with the 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Earlier Friday evening the Pentagon announced the deaths of three more soldiers based at Fort Benning, Ga., who died as a result of severe injuries Thursday, bringing the total number of U.S. deaths in or around Iraq to 60.

They were that of Staff Sgt. Nino D. Livaudais, 23, assigned to 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga. He was from Utah. Also identified were Spc. Ryan P. Long, 21, who was assigned to A Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga. and Capt. Russell B. Rippetoe, 27, assigned to A Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga. He was from Colorado.

Still earlier Friday, the Pentagon announced that four Army soldiers and two Marines had brought the total number of deaths associated with the war in Iraq to 57.

Spc. Donald S. Oaks Jr., 20, was killed in action in Iraq on April 3. He was assigned to C Battery, 3rd Battalion, 13th Field Artillery Regiment (Multiple Launch Rocket System), Fort Sill, Okla. Oaks was from Erie, Pa.

Sgt. 1st Class Randall S. Rehn, 36, was killed in action April 3. He was assigned to C Battery, 3rd Battalion, 13th Field Artillery Regiment (Multiple Launch Rocket System), Fort Sill, Okla. Rehn was from Longmont, Colo

Read more: www.upi.com/Business_News...1049570687/#ixzz1r5cNe6Ck

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#331. To: All (#330)

Paul William Roberts is a Canadian Reporter. He was in Baghdad during the invasion. While there, he heard reports that something major was happening at the airport. He repeatedly tried to gain access but was turned away at every junction. Eventually, he gained access to the extremities of the complex and noticed that the vegetation was turned to 'tar'.

Trees had warped/fell into pools of black tar. Also, Roberts noticed bodies wearing Iraqi camo, one example being a pair of legs, with the upper torso melted into a pool of black tar. Roberts is now blind. His doctors cite uranium damage to the eye. But its what Roberts discovered afterwards via his middle-eastern contacts that reveals more. Roberts states the following, by the way,all of this is from his book 'A War Against Truth' (2004);

The Americans were taken by surprise and withdrew when they encountered the SRG forces at the airport. Instead of engaging them in battle, U.S. troops went searching for other entrances and exits to the underground complex. One was found at Saddams opulent suite at the airport, another at the official palace.

There were others. When these entrance-exit points had been sealed, and U.S. Commanders were certain of the exact locations of the Special Republican Guardsmen, the Americans detonated some kind of hi-tech bomb -- there were rumours that it was a neutron bomb, but this seems outrageous even by their standards -- in the airports underground complex, in the Southern palace, killing everyone in it and in the northern palace. Estimates are in the forty thousand range. With the SRG defeated the war was essenitally over.

So long as there is no talk of what actually happened in Baghdad that weekend in April(3-8, 2003;), there is no freedom of the American press. The fix is in, my friend, and America’s in a fix.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:33:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#332. To: mcgowanjm (#329)

the Jessica Lynch story

You TEPCO stock moguls won't be able to cover up the ongoing Fuki meltdown, with the 'ol Jessica story much longer.


Japan eases limits in nuke no-go zone for 1st time.... www.tokyotimes.co.jp/2012...-no-go-zone-for-1st-time/

The town office had moved to another part of Fukushima prefecture but moved into a part of Kawauchi just outside the evacuation zone earlier this month to help smooth the process of residents’ returning.

While the reclassification means about 16,000 people can return home fairly soon, it’s not clear how many will. Most are waiting until the area is further decontaminated and infrastructure restored, and local officials have said towns may lose unity due to the three-way divisions.

Under the revised evacuation plans, areas with annual exposure levels estimated at 20 millisieverts or below are deemed safe for people to visit and prepare for their permanent return, while being encouraged to make further decontamination efforts. Limited access is allowed for residents in areas with higher contamination — up to 50 millisieverts of estimated annual exposure. Places with annual exposure estimates exceeding that will remain off-limits.

Despite the government declaration that Fukushima Dai-ichi is stable, the plant is largely running on makeshift equipment and remains vulnerable. Officials have said that it would take up to 40 years to fully decommission the highly contaminated plant that has three reactors with melted cores.

Decontamination efforts also are uncertain. Experts have said there is no established method, and more highly contaminated areas are difficult to clean up.

Environment Minister Goshi Hosono, also the nuclear crisis management minister, said Friday that containing radiation release and keeping the plant stability is crucial to the return of affected residents.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-04   12:46:30 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#333. To: redleghunter (#322) (Edited)

If the US hit the power grid, then ask yourself "for what purpose." It was clear in OPLAN Cobra II (as indicated in the book) that the US wanted to avoid infrastructure damage given the coalition wanted a functioning Iraqi economy after regime change.

First: That's bull shit. ' The only thing the USSA 'saved' was the Oil Ministry.

Everything else was burned to the ground.

Second:

"How do you know? Do you think the bombing knocked out the power? "

Yes....;}

April 3 at night, there was a light that lit up the sky. Followed immediately by a boom that shook the Downtown Baghdad buildings. The grid went down simultaneously and never came back.

April 7 at night. An even bigger explosion.

ON APRIL 5, 2003, unit founder Captain Eric May detected major glitches in the media pictures coming back from Baghdad, which US forces had just reached. The reporters had gone from hopeful April 4 announcements that the siege of Baghdad had begun, to worried April 5 announcements that there was a fierce fight at Baghdad Airport — then suddenly and without explanation away from the developing battle to the "human interest" story that Private Jessica Lynch had been saved from Iraqi captors.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#334. To: All (#333)

The Battle of Baghdad was happening off-camera, hidden behind Private Lynch!

The pull-down of the statue of Saddam Hussein on April 9 was another manufactured event to indicate that the Baghdad had been occupied by US forces. But how did they take the city?

The answer is that US forces were attacked by much-larger Iraq forces at the Baghdad Airport on Saturday morning, April 5, and after bleeding badly from that vicious fight were engaged in a fierce battle in the rubbled, slow-go driving — under constant Iraqi fire — through the city of Baghdad, a drive lasting until three days later, when the distraction of Private Jessica abruptly ended so that the media could show a set-up scene of the "Fall of Baghdad" (i.e., a set-up pull-down of Saddam's Statue).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:49:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#335. To: hondo68 (#332)

First. That's bullshit because the Typhoon just went thru last night.

Second. Fukushima City 300 000 will have to be evac'ed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#336. To: A K A Stone (#313)

Why is it bullshite?

This:

As the vehicle burned, Korn and a sergeant apparently dismounted and walked to the tree line near the tank, searching for Iraqi positions, Major Kent Rideout, the senior officer on the scene, told the Los Angeles Times.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#337. To: A K A Stone (#313)

Why is it bullshite?

And this:

"At some point, Korn spotted a second tank and sent the sergeant back for an antitank rocket before going on alone. "

So now you have a tank Commander/Captain, All alone between a second Iraq tank and his unit.

That's bullshite.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#338. To: redleghunter (#321)

We found out that the Baathists profited from setting their own infrastructure on fire.

Again bullshite.

They did not even destroy one bridge.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   12:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#339. To: mcgowanjm, *Liberal Rehab Staff* (#335)

bullshit because the Typhoon just went thru last night.

Second. Fukushima City 300 000 will have to be evac'ed.

The kids are back in school in Fukushima City. The kid with the mask has eco-nut parents, damn shame.


Fukushima city welcomes return of last four schools after evacuation

Fukushima city welcomes return of last four schools after evacuationThe last four of this city's 12 elementary and junior high schools, which were evacuated to other locations as a result of the nuclear crisis, returned to their original premises and restarted classes here on Feb. 27. The return of the last four schools in this prefectural city, which until September last year was designated as an emergency evacuation preparation zone as a result of the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, marks the end of the city's school evacuation cycle, though much remains to be completed before children restart their lives as they were before March 11, 2011. The four schools, among which are Ishigami No. 1 Elementary School and Ishigami No. 2 Elementary School, resumed classes at their original sites for the first time in almost a year, after soil decontamination and building reconstruction work was completed, allowing children to return.


At two nuclear power plants in northern Japan, cooling of a spent fuel storage pool temporarily stopped because of power failures but resumed in about 30 minutes without affecting safety, their operator Tohoku Electric Power Co. said.

The Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant that suffered meltdowns at three reactors after last year's tsunami was unaffected by the storm.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-04   13:23:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#340. To: mcgowanjm (#333)

First: That's bull shit. ' The only thing the USSA 'saved' was the Oil Ministry.

Everything else was burned to the ground.

Second:

"How do you know? Do you think the bombing knocked out the power? "

Yes....;}

April 3 at night, there was a light that lit up the sky. Followed immediately by a boom that shook the Downtown Baghdad buildings. The grid went down simultaneously and never came back.

April 7 at night. An even bigger explosion.

ON APRIL 5, 2003, unit founder Captain Eric May detected major glitches in the media pictures coming back from Baghdad, which US forces had just reached. The reporters had gone from hopeful April 4 announcements that the siege of Baghdad had begun, to worried April 5 announcements that there was a fierce fight at Baghdad Airport — then suddenly and without explanation away from the developing battle to the "human interest" story that Private Jessica Lynch had been saved from Iraqi captors.

Where were you on April 5th?

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   13:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#341. To: mcgowanjm (#338)

Again bullshite.

They did not even destroy one bridge.

You have clearly formed your lens of Iraq from news websites. Saddam admitted he left plans for a scorched earth policy to leave the coalition with a mess so the soon to be insurgency (as planned waiting in the wings) would gain popular support. If I were to put his words into English it would be something like this: "You wanted Iraq, here it is now have a nice day."

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   13:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#342. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/me...j.irq.war.main/index.html

Iraqwar.ru itself is history by Dom on 20.10.2004 [19:26 ] As time goes by I am more convinced that Iraqwar.ru was one of the unique things I ever experienced in life. I have yet to see anything like it. This site comes closest.

A lot of us were on Iraqwar every day from long before the war until the day it conked out. Too bad we can't look it up now and again. But then again, maybe life's too short for looking back. Once again. the living humans outlast their own works.

I don't reckon there's much in this neutron bomb story. As for the Ramsaj reports ceasing, that was not a surprise. They were too good. They were bound to be stopped sooner or later.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#343. To: redleghunter (#341)

You have clearly formed your lens of Iraq from news websites.

Thanx for adding nothing to this information....;}

'news websites'....LMGFAO....where does your lens form?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#344. To: redleghunter (#341)

Saddam admitted he left plans for a scorched earth policy to leave the coalition with a mess....

Any 'news site' whatsoever will do just fine.

Waiting not at all for you to come up with one....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#345. To: redleghunter (#341)

Again bullshite.

They did not even destroy one bridge.

You have clearly formed your lens of Iraq from news websites. Saddam admitted he left plans for a scorched earth policy to leave the coalition with a mess ...

So why was not. ONE. SINGLE. BRIDGE. destroyed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#346. To: redleghunter (#341)

so the soon to be insurgency (as planned waiting in the wings) would gain popular support. If I were to put his words into English it would be something like this: "You wanted Iraq, here it is now have a nice day."

So why is EVERY ministry burned to the ground....

except....

wait for it....

the OIL Ministry building....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#347. To: All (#342)

As for the Ramsaj reports ceasing, that was not a surprise. They were too good. They were bound to be stopped sooner or later.

www.iraq-war.ru/article/27537

If theres one thing Russia is good for, its outing US BS. But then, the original articles/exposures are the work of American veterans.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   14:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#348. To: mcgowanjm (#344)

Any 'news site' whatsoever will do just fine.

Waiting not at all for you to come up with one....;}

If something is not reported press does it make it untrue?

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   14:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#349. To: mcgowanjm (#345)

So why was not. ONE. SINGLE. BRIDGE. destroyed.

Have you read Cobra II. The answer is there.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   14:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#350. To: mcgowanjm (#346)

except....

wait for it....

the OIL Ministry building....;}

There were three oil ministry buildings...which one are you referring to? The Oil ministry had their own state security to fend off looters.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-04   14:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#351. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#1. To: Robin (#0)

Private First Class Lynch & the 3/7 Cavalry & the Battle of Baghdad Airport April 3-8, 2003

Writing on April 13 for the Danger Room blog at Wired, Hambling says that from the description al-Rawi gives in the Al Jazeera interview of a series of explosions that killed the occupants of buildings without destroying the structures, “Interestingly, there is a weapon in the U.S. arsenal designed to do exactly that. ... The AGM-114N.”

Hambling continues, “On May 15th, 2003, just a few weeks after the action at Baghdad airport, Donald Rumsfeld praised the new weapon. ... Although officially described as ‘metal augmented’ or even ‘hyperbaric,’ the new warhead is not distinguishable from thermobaric weapons which produce the same sort of enhanced blast with a lower overpressure and longer duration for more destructive effects. Like many thermobarics, the AGM-114N used finely powdered aluminum. The military are generally quiet about thermobarics because they have received such bad press. Human Rights Watch criticized them because they ‘kill and injure in a particularly brutal manner over a wide area.’ “

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-04 18:58:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit #2. To: All (#1)

david bloom 3/7 cavalry

The Rescue of Private First Class Lynch

On the evening of 1 April 2003, SOF, supported by marines, assaulted the hospital in which Private Jessica Lynch was being treated.

Although there have been news stories subsequently suggesting that the assault was unnecessary since Iraqi troops had left the day before, one fact is clear--the SOF troops brought Lynch out.

Her capture, her captivity, even her return home stimulated speculation and enormous media attention

Staff Sergeant Joe Todd,

.Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Twitty, commander of TF 3-15 IN, knew Bloom better than any other soldier in the task force. They had first met 12 years earlier when Bloom, as a young up-and-coming journalist, covered the 24th Infantry Division during Operation DESERT STORM. Twitty was then a captain, serving as aide de camp for then-Major General Barry McCaffrey, commander of the 24th Infantry Division.211

...;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-04

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#352. To: redleghunter (#350)

There were three oil ministry buildings.

Show me.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#353. To: redleghunter (#350)

The Oil ministry had their own state security to fend off looters.

Show me this as well.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#354. To: redleghunter, All (#348)

Any 'news site' whatsoever will do just fine.

Waiting not at all for you to come up with one....;}

If something is not reported press does it make it untrue?

STILL no sources for anything you say.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#355. To: redleghunter (#349)

Have you read Cobra II. The answer is there.

RU Serious?

You're gonna give me riddles?

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#356. To: All (#342)

As for the Ramsaj reports ceasing, that was not a surprise. They were too good. They were bound to be stopped sooner or later.

In an interview published by the Crawford, Texas, Lone Star Iconoclast (lonestaricon.com), May says, “The biggest story of the war became a non-event when the truth of the matter was that it was simply too bloody an event to report.

“The bogus rescue of Private Lynch was merely a distraction from the truth,” said May. “And the staged photo-op of the pulling down of Saddam Hussein’s statue was nothing more than a way to cement into people’s minds that it was an easy victory.”

Congressional hearings on April 24 heard testimony on “the histories of Pfc. Jessica D. Lynch and Cpl. Pat Tillman ... as egregious examples of officials’ twisting the truth for public relations in wartime.” (“Government Challenged on Lynch and Tillman,” New York Times, April 24)

Captain May says, “I think the Battle of Baghdad was emblematic of the whole misadventure in the Middle East. There is nothing that I thought then that I don’t think now has been validated by time. The American public still doesn’t know that there was a Battle of Baghdad because the media-military apparatus constructed the Private Jessica Lynch mess to hold attention.”

May continues: “The best evidence that I have from international sources, scientific sources, is that our position was becoming untenable at the Baghdad airport and we used a neutron warhead, at least one. That is the big secret of Baghdad airport.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-04   19:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#357. To: A K A Stone (#0)

April 5, 2003

Pat Tillman's first mission was securing the release of Jessica Lynch.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   10:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#358. To: All (#320) (Edited)

APRIL 5 This Day in History

April 5, 2003

Three hours later, the city shook from more multiple explosions, and antiaircraft fire shot into the sky.

American armored divisions launched the assault on the airport, 12 miles from the center of the Iraqi capital, as U.S.-led coalition troops advanced on the city.

CM: I had just come back from teaching a martial arts class on Friday, April 4, 2003. That would have been the morning of April 5 in Baghdad. Immediately, what I saw on CNN, about 9 p.m. Central time, was that Baghdad had been surrounded. We had dedicated the military forces to enveloping and making it succumb piece-by-piece, maybe sending in the 101st Airborne.

Then, all of a sudden, there was a report of explosions and CNN started to act like they were all rattled and didn’t know it was coming. Given that I was a prior service and intelligence public affairs officer, I knew very well that meant unexpected contact. Pretty soon, they were saying there were huge explosions from the airport, and the next thing you know, they’re casting over to imbed Walter Rogers from CNN. As he’s broadcasting from Baghdad Airport, you can hear artillery hitting around his Humvee and you can hear small arms fire hitting it: a distinct ping, ping, ping. That pretty much told me they were getting fired up bad.

That was when it was still pre-dawn in Baghdad. By dawn, Lt. Col. Terry Ferrell, the 3/7 Cavalry Group commander appeared on TV during CNN evening coverage and he broke down into tears when he trying to say everything was okay at Baghdad Airport. That made it clear to me that the 3/7, the scout unit, the cavalry squadron that attended the 3rd Infantry Division, the U.S. Army division that had surrounded Baghdad, had wound up in a close fight in the Baghdad Airport. That’s what I picked up at the time.

By the next day, CNN was saying there was substantial contradiction in facts from various media reports. Arab media were putting out 200 U.S. dead at the airport. Russian Intel put out that dozens were dead and a real fight had developed. U.S. media were putting out that Jessica Lynch had been rescued.

JA: How do you account for foreign media reporting about a bloody battle and U.S. media being silent about the airport while highlighting the rescue of Jessica Lynch?

CM: To me, at this point, it was a done deal. The Battle of Baghdad was essentially blocked out from April 5 all the way through April 8. On April 9, you had the pull-down of the Saddam statue which represents a pretty efficient ending of the Battle of Baghdad. But, it really was a propaganda ending. The pull-down was a staged event and I’ve heard that the few Iraqis there were not even Iraqis.

JA: Why have you taken such passion about the Battle of Baghdad?

Stranger than fiction Order Now

CM: The propaganda cover-up of the Battle of Baghdad, what we call BOBCUP (Battle of Baghdad Cover-up) was so conspicuously against the United States principles of information, which is what we follow in the Department of Defense Public Affairs operations, was so egregiously out of line, it was then that I self-mobilized my mission of conscience because, basically, it was apparent to me at that point, that we were under dictatorship. Suppressing the events of an entire battle and keeping it suppressed long after the battle was over … you know, you could have said, "Well, we didn’t want to tell the Iraqis where our troops were," or something else. But, you can’t say that months and months and months and years after the event.

Baghdad was the beginning.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   10:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#359. To: mcgowanjm (#354)

STILL no sources for anything you say.

I am a source. Three tours there in the thick of it and at a higher headquarters.

I was informed that your special "wire" thread is like a padded room for you to play in. I won't disturb your silence.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-05   14:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#360. To: mcgowanjm (#358)

JA: How do you account for foreign media reporting about a bloody battle and U.S. media being silent about the airport while highlighting the rescue of Jessica Lynch?

Of course there was a fierce fight for BIAP. Saddam's hunting lodge and palace are on the same compound. Hate to break this to you...The Battle of Baghdad was on the US News. Check out some of Ollie North's reports. The embeds did a good job. You do realize seizing Baghad happened 4 months ahead of schedule. And Jessica Lynch was rescued on 1 April not 4 or 5 April. 3ID and 101st were moving so fast and busting up what remained of the Iraqi disruption zones, one unit ran out of ammo, picked up Iraqi weapons and started fighting.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-05   14:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#361. To: mcgowanjm (#357)

Pat Tillman's first mission was securing the release of Jessica Lynch.

That's goofy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-05   18:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#362. To: redleghunter (#359) (Edited)

I was informed that your special "wire" thread is like a padded room for you to play in. I won't disturb your silence.

You got balls, you'll give me a source on anything.

You're innuendo bullshit is disinfo.

An ad hominem attack.

Your say so makes you a hero. good luck on that one....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#363. To: redleghunter (#359)

I am a source.

NUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

Yeah. Me too.

you got backing from your Zio fundy 1% ers. And that's all you got.

Good luck with that....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:39:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#364. To: redleghunter, All (#359)

Three tours there in the thick of it and at a higher headquarters.

Tell me about the Battle of Baghdad and the 3/7 Cavalry of the Third Infantry Division. April 5 2003.

And why that M1 Abrams deliberately fired into the Palestine Hotel.

The Invasion of Iraq. Then you can tell me why we did this.

you Zio Fundy's never disappoint.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#365. To: All (#364)

And while I'mm waiting for sdources from my padded cell....

LMFAO....8D

A little history:

Think back now the "crazy" claim by the Iraqi Information Minister, whom our media labeled a ridiculous "Baghdad Bob." On April 5, 2003, he made the claim from Baghdad that there was a fierce fight going on between US and Iraqi forces at the Baghdad International Airport and that the Iraqis were inflicting heavy casualties on our soldiers and Marines. That's about the last thing you will remember about the battle, because that's when Bush told the media to pull the plug on the truth and start lying. Within hours the media began to feed us a story about! Private Jessica Lynch as a distraction, and stopped reporting the US attempt to take Baghdad, clearly the biggest story of the war. They didn't return the cameras to Baghdad until April 9, after the fighting was over, when they broadcast the US Army pulling down the statue of Saddam Hussein.

The biggest story of the war became a non-event when the truth of the matter is that it was simply too bloody an event to report. If we had known that things were getting tough, we might have had second thoughts - and the Bush media is not going to let us think for ourselves. They haven't cared about the Constitution or journalistic ethics from the beginning; what they have cared about is boosting the war for their big bosses and Bush, public be damned!

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#366. To: A K A Stone, All (#361) (Edited)

That's goofy.

Worse. Goofy and true.

Tell me you don't believe it....;}

Just straight up. No bullshite.

A K A Stone doesn't beleive that Tillman's fiirst mission in 2003 was securing the release of Jessica Lynch....

waiting in hopeful anticipation....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   20:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#367. To: A K A Stone, All (#366)

waiting in hopeful anticipation....;}

still waiting...

Just straight up. No bullshite.

A K A Stone doesn't believe that Tillman's fiirst mission in 2003 was securing the release of Jessica Lynch....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   21:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#368. To: redleghunter (#360)

The Battle of Baghdad was on the US News.

Oliver North of Iran Contra infamy?

LMFAO

might as well ask cheney/rummy/petraeus/frank, eh?

North is a flunky...;}

Someone else.

And I was watching April3-8 2003.

Told my family that the toppling of Saddam's statue with Chalabi's goonsas props was a fake.

From Day 1.....Give me a source. URL's and all that...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   21:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#369. To: redleghunter (#360)

You do realize seizing Baghad happened 4 months ahead of schedule.

I realize that Venik/Ramzaj and the Russian GRU gave me/the world real time data.

And that the USSA MEdia/Pentagon put out nothing but smoke.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   21:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#370. To: redleghunter (#360)

And Jessica Lynch was rescued on 1 April not 4 or 5 April. 3ID and 101st were moving so fast and busting up what remained of the Iraqi disruption zones, one unit ran out of ammo, picked up Iraqi weapons and started fighting.

Source any of that.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-05   21:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#371. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#139. To: nolu chan (#138)

You continue to try to ignore 600 years of judicial precedent.

Now why did you happen to pick 600 years ago and then post 1942 and 1871 US Verdicts?

That approx 600 years ago was the start of American genocide by the conquering Europeans, still honoring same today in the US?

No. That's not it.

That there is Still to this day no DC Memorial to the Slavery that built Congress and the White House?

Not that either.

Must be the Magna Carta. The Beginning of Habeus Corpus that the USSA HAS overthrown.

"You continue to try to ignore 600 years of judicial precedent."

When every attempt to peaceably overthrow the yoke that the Top 400 continue to try to throw over the head of ALL the Bottom 99%.

When the Treason of December 14, 2000 (AND every POTUS that has opposed the Central Bank has been shot annd shot at),

AND we get the Treason of 9/11 months after...

which then hurls us into a STATE OF EMERGENCY renewed EVERY year by the sitting POTUS....

the Rule of Law is the Rule of Kleptocracy. A Plutarchy.

And pretending the Bottom 99% have some say, when the POTUS has claimed and PERFORMED the right to kill any American at any time for any reason is to be part of the problem.

" Generally, the term is said to be the notion that America has a unique historic mission, values and ideals, that are either endowed by God or enshrined in the Constitution that make it exceptional in the world. Holy f**k, this is shaping up to be one long, miserable campaign. If you want to know why there is absolutely no hope that America will be able to change course before we manage to destroy ourselves, look no further than this happy horseshit. It was this dumbass idea that somehow America is exceptional, and therefore not bound by the limitations that bog down other mere mortal nations, that was a huge factor in getting us into such a huge f**king mess in the first place. This bulls**t all started with Ronald Reagan, of course. Jimmy Carter tried in his own bumbling and inept manner to warn Americans that there were limits not only to our military power but to the energy resources that fueled our very way of life. During the 1980 presidential campaign, Reagan and his minions took Carter's warnings and won big by beating him over the head with them. Then Reagan won re-election by using the same American exceptionalism club to wallop Walter Mondale..."

And I KNEW from DAY 1 of Reagan's Election that Democracy was dead in the US. And have been fighting the evil fu cks every day since.

35 years....that's about how long successful guerrilla wars take to prosecute successfully.

Almost there......;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   8:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#372. To: All (#371)

#361. To: mcgowanjm (#357)

Pat Tillman's first mission was securing the release of Jessica Lynch.

That's goofy.

A K A Stone posted on 2012-04-05 18:04:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply #362. To: redleghunter (#359) (Edited)

I was informed that your special "wire" thread is like a padded room for you to play in. I won't disturb your silence.

You got balls, you'll give me a source on anything.

You're innuendo bullshit is disinfo.

An ad hominem attack.

Your say so makes you a hero. good luck on that one....;}

Waiting on sources, replies....;}

But not much longer....;}

Padded Cell. You'll think goofy padded cell...LMFAO...Morning VietNam!!!!

I do love the smell of napalm in the morning.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   8:58:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#373. To: mcgowanjm (#358)

CM: The propaganda cover-up of the Battle of Baghdad, what we call BOBCUP (Battle of Baghdad Cover-up) was so conspicuously against the United States principles of information...

Thanks Jim. I hate to ask - who is CM?

Did you read about the Arkansas football coach Petrino? What a stud!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-06   9:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#374. To: mcgowanjm (#371)

And I KNEW from DAY 1 of Reagan's Election that Democracy was dead

Two points.

1. We are not a democracy. 2. Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century. A real patriot and a real good man.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-06   9:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#375. To: All (#372) (Edited)

While we're waiting, a little somethin' soemthin'....'}

What you wanna bet that these students will STILL be held liable for these 'loans':

" What's worse than graduating college with a beaucoup load of student loans? Having your college close abruptly leaving you with nothing to show for a beaucoup load of student loans. Here is InsideNOVA.com with the details:

Dreams were broken and students were left with crushing debt and nothing to show for it after ACT College abruptly closed its doors Tuesday.-billhicksisdead

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   9:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#376. To: A K A Stone (#374) (Edited)

Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century. A real patriot and a real good man.

I knew the instant the Iranians released the hostages during Raygun's Inauguration that the fix was in.

PATCO's destruction sealed the deal and then raygun was shot by bush41's best friend's son not two months later.

The bush Dynasty continued it's ascent.

The only good thing about Reagan was Volker and bush/Greenspan put an end to him right quick. And then bush41 takes over.

Gawd, how many times did Reagan say 'I don't know' about IranContra until at the End he actually got Alzheimers and truly did not know...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   9:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#377. To: Fred Mertz (#373)

CM would be Captain May

# 3/7 Cavalry, Tragedy and Travesty By Captain Eric H May www.ccun.org/.../3-7%20Cavalry,...Cached

Apr 18, 2011 – US Foreign Policy (Dr. El-Najjar's Articles) · www.aljazeerah.info. 3/7 Cavalry, Tragedy and Travesty. By Captain Eric H May, Ghost Troop CO ...

Ghost Troop: The Art of Info-War | Veterans Today www.veteranstoday.com/201...he-art-of-info-war/Cached

May 14, 2011 – Commanded by Captain Eric H. May, Ghost Troop consists of current and past high-level military .... So that became Ghost Troop, 3/7 Cavalry.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   9:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#378. To: All (#377)

Here's Ghost Troop (part of it):

CPT Korn, Edward J. UNIT:4-64 AR, 2 HBCT FROM: Savannah, GA KIA: 3 April 03

Story of death makes zero sense. See above posts. Was on a Thunder Run to divert pressure from the Baghdad Airport.

The rest. Attn. Military site, lots of color. Takes a while to load but worth it.

www.stewart.army.mil/warrWalk/default.asp

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   9:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#379. To: mcgowanjm (#376)

I knew the instant the Iranians released the hostages during Raygun's Inauguration that the fix was in.

They knew Carter was a chump. They were afraid of Reagan.

You didn't "know" anything. You just had one of those famous hunches of yours. You know like the real off base hunch that Florida would have to be evacuated.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-06   10:37:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#380. To: A K A Stone (#379)

They knew Carter was a chump. They were afraid of Reagan.

As we now know, Reagan paid them off.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-06   10:48:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#381. To: lucysmom (#380)

As we now know, Reagan paid them off.

We don't know that. Because it isn't true. We do know that you lie though.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-06   10:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#382. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone, All (#380)

They knew Carter was a chump. They were afraid of Reagan.

As we now know, Reagan paid them off.

Yes, A K A, we Do know this.

Because the October (bush, tower, heinz-Paris, FR) Surprise is the start of IranContra.

And Clinton's impeachment is a direct result of his not pursuing bush41's blanket pardon/amnesty of Weinberger, Schultz as his last act of POTUS.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   11:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#383. To: All (#382)

According to some accounts, the US soldiers were targeted after they left their base to explore the town’s municipal park. Other reports, however, indicated that the bomber’s target was a meeting of Afghan officials taking place nearby.

The Taliban claimed credit for the attack and quoted residents as saying that after the bombing US soldiers opened fire on civilians, killing one and wounding several.

Reuters quoted Faryab’s provincial police chief, Abdul Khaliq Aqsai, as saying that the American soldiers were taking photographs in the park when they were attacked. "We warned them not to roam around the city," Aqsai told the news agency.

The police chief said witnesses reported that the bomber walked right up to the troops, shouted "Allahu Akbar" (God is greatest) and detonated his explosives.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   11:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#384. To: mcgowanjm (#376)

The only good thing about Reagan was Volker and bush/Greenspan put an end to him right quick. And then bush41 takes over.

Gawd, how many times did Reagan say 'I don't know' about IranContra until at the End he actually got Alzheimers and truly did not know...;}

He was the most ignorant of the inner workings of his own administration of any president in my lifetime.

And what now seems typical of a 2 term Republican president, created a nationwide financial meltdown.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-06   11:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#385. To: A K A Stone (#379)

They knew Carter was a chump. They were afraid of Reagan.

And UR serious.

Carter was the last attempt to set Amerika to deal with Peak Oil.

Reagan authorized the creation of $1.7 Quadrillion in debt Derivatives.

As my Senator D Bumpers stated:

"You let me write bad checks for $2.1 Trillion and I can show everyone a good time too."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   11:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#386. To: mcgowanjm (#385)

Carter was the last attempt to set Amerika to deal with Peak Oil.

Is it any wonder he had to go?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-06   11:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#387. To: lucysmom (#386)

Is it any wonder he had to go?

Notice in Every POTUS 'collection' photo.

Carter is as far from bush41 as possible.

And separates himself from the others....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   11:56:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#388. To: All (#387)

It’s Not Over: Government Plans for the Worst: Forced Evacuation of Tokyo Mac Slavo April 3rd, 2012 SHTFplan.com Comments (129)

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While it has for the most part disappeared from mainstream view, the Fukushima nuclear disaster is anything but over. In fact, the situation in Japan has gone from bad to worse.

Bottom line: There is no way to contain the radiation.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   11:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#389. To: A K A Stone, All (#388)

Time's up.

>ABCNews.com> GMA>Pat Tillman: Full Coverage Pat Tillman's First Mission Was Jessica Lynch Rescue

abcnews.go.com/GMA/PatTil...-details/story?id=8536693

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   12:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#390. To: All (#389) (Edited)

And Tokio should be evac'ed now because the story is a limited hangout.

Why?

The SFP(MOX) of Reactor 3 has already been blown away...

"Even more alarming is that the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and other agencies have warned that the nuclear storage pools (the containment units that are being used to cool the nuclear fuel) have been damaged and may collapse under their own weight.

Such an event would cause widespread nuclear fallout throughout the region and force the government to evacuate the nearly 10 million (and that's 36 million;) residents of Tokyo and surrounding areas, a scenario which government emergency planners are now taking into serious consideration.

Leading Japanese newspaper The Mainichi Daily News reports:

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   12:03:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#391. To: mcgowanjm (#387)

Carter is as far from bush41 as possible.

The Bush/Cheney administration wasted no time in attacking Carter's energy policy even though Carter hadn't been president for 20 years.

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-06   12:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#392. To: mcgowanjm (#370)

Access the open source AARs and also news reports for Jessica Lynch

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-06   12:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#393. To: redleghunter (#392)

Access the open source AARs and also news reports for Jessica Lynch

Give me the URL.

I don't have time to do your research....thanx

7 killed in NATO tanker blaze in south Afghanistan Fri Apr 6, 2012 5:16AM GMT At least seven people have died in a blaze after a NATO supply vehicle transporting fuel for US-led forces in Afghanistan crashed and burst into flames in the country's troubled southern province of Kandahar.

www.presstv.ir/detail/234819.html

Looks like all our troops will be walking to do their 'nightly neighborhood watches....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   12:43:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#394. To: lucysmom (#391)

The Bush/Cheney administration wasted no time in attacking Carter's energy policy even though Carter hadn't been president for 20 years.

And I bet bush41 loves to dis JFK as well....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   12:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#395. To: mininggold (#384)

He was the most ignorant of the inner workings of his own administration of any president in my lifetime.

The only good thing about Reagan is that he hated bush41...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-06   12:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#396. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Wonder how many helos we have left in the Afghans....

Sat Apr 7, 2012 3:38AM GMT Share15 Share | Email | Print A US helicopter has crashed in Afghanistan’s northern province of Baghlan, leaving casualties behind, according to Afghan officials, Press TV reports.

That's one version.

This one has more of the ring of truth to it though...

US invaders helicopter shot down in Baghlan Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Friday, 14 Jamadil Awal 1433 Friday, 06 April 2012 17:27

BAGHLAN, Apr. 06 – A news report says Friday that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate brought down a US helicopter in Pul-e-Khumri later this afternoon at about 5:00 p.m. local time.

A Mujahideen’s official said the helicopter was hovering overhead in an attempt to surveil and gather intelligence as it came under fire by Mujahideen causing the fall down with all its crew members being killed.

The crash scene was cordoned off and surrounded by the enemy in a warning not to get any closer.

More detail...;}

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5Qj3Jex4FgA/T3rx7hQ2r0I/AAAAAAAAClw/MpUZFNSO5vY/s400/Screen+shot+2012-04-03+at+8.49.00+AM.png

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-07   11:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#397. To: mcgowanjm (#385)

Carter was the last attempt to set Amerika to deal with Peak Oil.

Carter was a dumb ass. Not as much so as Obama, but a dumb ass nevertheless.

Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century. The only good democrat of the 20th century was Kennedy. And he wasn't that good. Just in comparison to other democrats.

The democrat party is the party of perverts, drug attics, dead beats, child molesters and faggots. It is the party of losers and dumb asses.

And you spelled America wrong.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-07   11:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#398. To: mininggold (#384)

He was the most ignorant of the inner workings of his own administration of any president in my lifetime.

You are probably the second most ignorant poster on the site. Maybe the first. Uninformed, forked tongue speaking, hypocrite, on your knees for Obama.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-07   11:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#399. To: mcgowanjm (#395)

The only good thing about Reagan is that he hated bush41...;}

Yeah I always wondered what they had on Reagan to insure the Bush dynasty had a seat at the table. Oh that's right, Bush 41 kept the Panama canal safe for world commerce. He was owed!

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-07   11:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#400. To: A K A Stone (#398) (Edited)

You are probably the second most ignorant poster on the site. Maybe the first. Uninformed, forked tongue speaking, hypocrite, on your knees for Obama.

It's called giving my opinion, numby. Like you fundies, all it requires is faith amid life's experiences.

So are you playing Grand Inquisitor again today? You missed your calling by a few centuries.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-07   11:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#401. To: mininggold (#400)

It's called giving my opinion, numby. Like you fundies, all it requires is faith amid life's experiences.

So are you playing Grand Inquisitor again today? You missed your calling by a few centuries.

I'm just giving my opinion too. Only difference is mine is based on facts yours is fantasyland random thoughts you make up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-07   11:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#402. To: mininggold (#399)

Yeah I always wondered what they had on Reagan to insure the Bush dynasty had a seat at the table.

Their was no Bush Dynasty at the time. So your point is silly.

You are right that the House of Bush is not our friend. I'll give you that one.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-07   11:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#403. To: A K A Stone (#0)

But seriously, we have really reached a pretty grim point when the court that is supposed to be protecting our rights under the Constitution, and the president, who is supposed to uphold and defend that document, collude in saying that once a person has been taken into custody by police, she or he really has no rights. The 4th Amendment about being "secure in your person"? Forget it. The cops can now strip you, grope you, check your butthole and humiliate you all they want, even if you are innocent of any charge. And by the way, they can lock you up with hardened convicts and hold you after they do that, until you get a lawyer or post bail. No "cruel and unusual punishment"? Well, I think most people would agree that getting stripped and intimately searched by some leering cop when you hadn’t done anything would qualify as punishment, and it certainly is cruel, so the Eighth Amendment is in the toilet too. (We already knew the First Amendment -- the one about freedom of speech and assembly and the right to petition over grievances -- was toast. Just ask Mayor Mike Bloomberg or any of the other mayors who ordered the brutal crushing of dozens of Occupation encampments over the past half year.)-stephen lendman blog

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-08   8:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#404. To: All (#403) (Edited)

Their business model is grand theft. They're crime families, not legitimate enterprises. They make money by stealing it. They wreck economies, communities, and households. Corrupt politicians let them. They're bribed to go along. As bad as things are, they're getting worse.

On April 5, The New York Times headlined, "Obama Signs Bill to Promote Start-Up Investments," saying:

Surrounded by complicit lawmakers and industry crooks, Obama signed the JOBS Act. He called it a "potential game changer." The Times article went along with the charade.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-08   8:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#405. To: All (#404)

It’s possible that the current hype about oil ‘shortages’ and reserve-tapping is designed to both push its price up and nip any panicky market selling in the bud. (See Slogpost last week on the oil ‘price’ scam).

Looking back now to laugh out loud at the pathetic confidence of 2006, by comparison what we have in the West today is a much greater dilution of currencies than most people expected, far more notional obligations than most people realised, and collapsed house values about to fall off a cliff. House prices continue to head south in the States; and no US economic recovery has ever been managed without a recovery in the domestic property market. All of us are left with a dearth of confidence, the unhappy victims of a profusion of confidence tricksters.

So, what most people in their right minds recognise is that we’re going to have stagflation in the West – that is, flat or declining economic output alongside rising living costs. And economically, we have what you might call an investment gap: less real-value money to stimulate economies, and less oilco money going into tapping reserves.

Unless somebody can find a way to plug the gap that doesn’t involve can-football, we will spiral into the worst slump the world has ever witnessed….one in which nobody buys or sells anything, every sovereign is bankrupt, no asset is worth even a row of beans, society breaks down, and the neighbours will be on the barbecue just as soon as we can raise the £5.5M for a bag of charcoal.

Under this scenario, a ‘Global Spring’ takes place…with all the unpleasant consequences that we’ve seen in North Africa. Because when you indulge in believing Friedmanite bollocks about wealth trickling, what happens is an ever-broadening concentration of wealth in a few hands. And when you let bankers invent money to enrich themselves at no advantage whatsoever to the real economy, the other 93% get wiped out financially. And both those things make any kind of meaningful economic recovery impossible.

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-08   9:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#406. To: All (#405) (Edited)

Palmer: "People have got to think: do you WANT to live in a country run by the government?" Interviewer: "Has this ever happened before?" Palmer: "It happened once, but we fixed it. We got rid of it."

"It’s cars versus jobs and people.

Car is winning today but will ultimately lose.

Purposeful deflation is energy conservation by other means.

This is not completely arbitrary as the conservation impulse is not optional. It will be enforced by events or otherwise. There is nothing that can be done to stop or slow conservation. It is driven by entropy which is a physical law. Instead of jettisoning car industry and keeping the EU, the union jettisons Greece to keep the car industry. The EU stupidly thinks the crisis is ‘fixed’. Next up is Spain on the chopping block. At some point Germany exits the EU which is destroyed: at the end of the day there is no EU and no car industry, either.

www.economic-undertow.com...ect-failure-of-economics/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-08   9:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#407. To: mcgowanjm (#403)

I consider 98 percent of cops to be pigs.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-08   9:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#408. To: A K A Stone (#407)

Pigs, Dogs, Sheep Pink Floyd

Pigs (Three Different Ones) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig...ree_Different_Ones)Cached - Similar

"Pigs (Three Different Ones)" is a song from Pink Floyd's 1977 album Animals. In the album's three parts, "Dogs", "Pigs", and "Sheep", pigs represent the people ...

Pink Floyd: Animals www.ingsoc.com/waters/personal/justinh.htmlCached - Similar

Pink Floyd is one of the most recognized bands in the world, whether you love them or hate them ... In Floyd's version the people are either Dogs, Pigs, or Sheep.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-08   10:13:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#409. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Historic High gas prices.

I don't know about elsewhere, but Tulsa, NWArk are experiencing the highest gas ever now.

"The project of the American suburbs is the greatest misallocation of resources in the history of the world." - James Kunstler

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   7:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#410. To: All (#409) (Edited)

I remember the first time they did this.

It made int'l news. Today, not so much.

And I guarantee that Al Qaeda had nothing to do with it....;}

Egypt-Israel gas pipeline targeted for 14th time A pipeline delivering gas from Egypt to Israel burns following an attack near the town of al-Arish in the northern Sinai, September 27, 2011. Mon Apr 9, 2012 3:38AM GMT

An Egyptian pipeline supplying gas to the Israeli regime and Jordan has once again been hit by a major explosion, which is the fourteenth attack on the energy link since January 2011.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   8:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#411. To: All (#410)

Latest Gallup poll.

Do you think Israel is a friend of the United States?

LMFAO. In your dreams....8D

The initial conflict, centered on so-called military objectives (scientific research facilities), will spread rapidly to economic targets, or what US and Israeli military strategists refer to as “dual civilian-military” targets. This would include oil fields, highways, factories, communications networks, television stations, water treatment facilities, reservoirs, power stations and administrative offices, such as the Defense Ministry and headquarters of the Republican Guard. Iran, faced with imminent destruction of its entire economy and infrastructure (which occurred in neighboring Iraq with the unprovoked US invasion of 2003), would retaliate by blocking the Straits of Hormuz and sending short range missiles in the direction of the principle oil fields and refineries of the Gulf States including Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, a mere 10 minute distance, crippling the flow of oil to Europe, Asia and the United States and plunging the world economy into deep depression.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   8:39:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#412. To: All (#411)

It should not be forgotten that the Iranians are probably more aware than anyone in the region of the total devastation suffered by Iraqis after the US invasion, which plunged that nation into total chaos and devastated its advanced infrastructure and civilian administrative apparatus, not to mention the systematic obliteration of its highly educated scientific and technical elite. The waves of Mossad-sponsored assassinations of Iranian scientists, academics and engineers are just a foretaste of what the Israelis have in mind for Iran ’s outstanding scientists, intellectuals and highly skilled technical workers. Iranians should have no illusions about the Americans and Israelis who seek to thrust Iran into the brutal dark ages of Afghanistan and Iraq .

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   8:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#413. To: mcgowanjm (#412)

Iran is threatening to nuke Israel. They have repeatedly threatened to wipe Israel off the map. It is Iran that will be conquered. Not Israel.

The Isralis are good people. The muslim inhabitants of the middle east are not.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-09   8:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#414. To: A K A Stone (#413)

Iran is threatening to nuke Israel.

With what.

And you need to stopp reading those MossadAl Qaeda sites like debka....

Israel's the first terrorist state.

Obama Threatens War

President Obama has stepped up the rhetoric against Iran with an offer to "negotiate". His offer is no offer at all, it is a demand to surrender. There will be nothing left to "negotiate" if Iran accepts the offer. This is what Obama demands before "negotiation" begins.

* Immediately close and dismantle a recently completed nuclear facility deep under a mountain

* Give up and ship out of the country its stockpile of uranium enriched to 20 percent purity

* Halt all enrichment even though enrichment to 5 percent does not pose a risk

* Allow inspectors full access to all Iranian sites

* Allow inspectors access to key nuclear scientists even though many Iranian scientists have been killed

The New York Times reports U.S. Defines Its Demands for New Round of Talks With Iran

You want WWIII? Do it. Attack. First one to do it, loses.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   8:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#415. To: All (#414)

Everyone's ready.

Thirdly, Israel ’s principle allies, especially the US and the EU, will be severely strained as they are dragged into Israel ’s war and find themselves defending the straits of Hormuz, their army garrisons in Iraq and Afghanistan , and their oil fields and military bases in the Gulf.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   8:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#416. To: All (#415)

www.economic-undertow.com...-registrations-040512.png

Figure 1: EU auto registrations for the past year (from ACEA). It is possible that registrations might recover, but hardly likely when consuming countries such as Spain and Italy are now on the euro credit stringency chopping block. The demand for fuel in peripheral countries is removed. This is done by creditors cutting off peripheral access to euro-denominated credit. Those remaining with credit have the means to then ‘import’ Spanish- and Italian domestic fuel demand for themselves without any monetary or credit penalties.

It’s cars versus jobs and people. Car is winning today but will ultimately lose.

Purposeful deflation is energy conservation by other means.

This is not completely arbitrary as the conservation impulse is not optional. It will be enforced by events or otherwise. There is nothing that can be done to stop or slow conservation. It is driven by entropy which is a physical law.

www.economic-undertow.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   9:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#417. To: All (#415) (Edited)

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

A deliberately planted home-made gas canister gutted the Ministry of Administrative Reform’s ground floor offices in the Neos Kosmos district of Athens earlier this morning (Monday).

The MAR has been the focal point of delivering the Troika’s sweeping reform programme. The bomb, which exploded at 1.50 am local time, also destroyed three cars.

The modus operandum – propane gas canisters – is the same as that used in the bomb that exploded outside the office of former prime minister Costas Simitis six days ago. But although the two attacks may have a single source, nobody has, as yet, claimed responsibility.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   9:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#418. To: All (#417)

Sony To Axe 10,000 Employees Monday, 09 April 2012 02:18 Brandon Smith

This is just the beginning folks. With Sony's recent announcement of downsizing right on top of Yahoo's cuts, and the recent U.S. jobs report which was far below mainstream expectations, we are now seeing the initial stages of the next economic drop. The effects of the fiat money train have subsided, and the reality of the dismal global economy is taking hold once again. Watch for an accelerated and very visible downturn in the coming months...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   9:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#419. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Meanwhile, deleveraging of household balance sheets since the high debt levels of 2007 has been mild. The result is yet another way to see how deeply consumer demand is restrained: there’s not enough work to both pay down debt, and restart consumption.

Until the US confronts the reality of health care costs, and the outstanding debt levels of households, there should be little expectation that sectors like housing will see much of any recovery. While its true that reduced consumption more generally, compared to the excesses of the past few decades, is a long-overdue change that the US economy sorely needs, it is also true that any desired shift to a more productive economy in which output rises faster than consumption will not likely occur on the back of part-time work. It sounds so boring to say: the US economy needs a return of high-paying, full-time jobs. If this does not occur soon, the associated political unease will continue to fester and a new conversation about health-care policy, one that is less partisan(?), will have to ensue.

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http://earlywarn.blogspot.com/2012/04/p">earlywarn.blogspot.com/2012/04/

The above shows the unemployment rate for the five "PIIGS" countries. The data (from Eurostat) begin in 2005 and run through Feb 2012 except for Greece which only goes to Dec 2011.

None of these countries have put their troubles behind them. You can argue that Ireland appears to have at least stabilized its unemployment rate. The rest all appear to be worsening - Greece, Spain, and Portugal are all deteriorating at fairly dramatic rates. These countries are in the grip of an event on the scale of the Great Depression.

These countries are in the grip of an event on the scale of the Great Depression.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   10:20:13 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#420. To: A K A Stone (#413)

They have repeatedly threatened to wipe Israel off the map.

And that's Mossad BS as well.

The threat is to take out Zionism.

Big difference.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   11:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#421. To: All (#420) (Edited)

We have some time left before the ultimate fate is visible to all. Ten minutes after the collision, the Titanic's passengers had 2 hours and 30 minutes before the "unsinkable" ship sank. How much time we have left is unknown, but the bow of the ship will be visibly settling into the icy water within a year or two--and perhaps much sooner.

- a dangerous meme will go forth across the internet, and this meme will say: Millennials, renounce your college loans and set yourselves free! And then something truly marvelous will happen. They will at once disempower the swindling generation of their fathers, teachers, loan officers, and overlords and quite possibly bring on, at long last, the epochal collision of pervasive American control fraud with the hard hand of reality.

I think this will happen, and I would venture even to set the meme loose here and now and watch it go viral. The college loan racket has been an even more cynical enterprise than the mortgage racket was because so many people who ought to have known better, people of supposed intelligence such as college deans, cabinet secretaries, and think-tank Yodas, all colluded to support the false promise that the gigantic cargo cult of higher ed would keep churning out fresh careers forever - when the truth was that the entire groaning vessel of hopes and dreams was already under water and sinking into the eternal darkness.

kunstler.com/blog/2012/04/strange-jubilee-1.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   11:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#422. To: mcgowanjm (#420)

And that's Mossad BS as well.

The threat is to take out Zionism.

Big difference.

Well put.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-09   11:21:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#423. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The first sign of AgitProp is when you' re first told of the 'problem' is when you're told it's been destroyed or never existed in the first place:

" The petroleum age is just beginning

BY DAVID DEMING | Published: April 7, 2012 Oklahoman Comment on this article 35

Peak Oil is the theory that the production history of petroleum follows a symmetrical bell-shaped curve. Once the curve peaks, decline is inevitable. The theory is commonly invoked to justify the development of alternative energy sources that are allegedly renewable and sustainable. NewsOK Related Articles

* Oklahoma City benefits from inspiring leadership 04/07/2012 When he turned 25, a friend of mine printed T-shirts with his picture and the phrase “A quarter-century of being awesome.” There is indeed something...

It's time to consign Peak Oil theory to the dust bin of history.

Read more: newsok.com/the-petroleum-...cle/3664151#ixzz1rbE8NZcy

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   22:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#424. To: mcgowanjm (#423)

theory

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-09   22:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#425. To: A K A Stone (#424)

The first time you're told this 'theory' exists is when you're also told it's not true.

So why even talk about it?...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   22:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#426. To: mcgowanjm (#425)

There is plenty of oil.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-09   22:15:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#427. To: A K A Stone (#424)

theory

peak energy in the news: Can overconfidence be overcome in advance? Richard Vodra, ASPO-USA

What seems to be missing from the coming New York Times energy conference is a sense of skepticism about the underlying assumptions for energy sufficiency in the decades to come. The agenda, speakers, and likely attendees remind one of what a shipboard symposium might have been like on the future of trans-Atlantic shipping held in the salon of the Titanic exactly one hundred years earlier. Maybe it’s inevitable that the hard questions won’t be entertained until the disaster occurs and we realize there aren’t enough lifeboats.

www.aspo-usa.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   22:19:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#428. To: A K A Stone (#426)

There is plenty of oil.

O yeah. More than humans will ever use.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   22:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#429. To: mcgowanjm (#428)

O yeah. More than humans will ever use.

Yes.

At Armageddon there are jets flying. So there is still oil or some alternative.

We will be ok.

Sometimes I think you work for big oil and you are just trying to scare up prices.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-09   22:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#430. To: A K A Stone (#429) (Edited)

So there is still oil or some alternative.

We will be ok.

Sometimes I think you work for big oil and you are just trying to scare up prices.

There is no alternative for oil.

There is zero way I can scare up prices faster than 'Israel wants to attack Iran'.

Just no way...;}

"It is a game that children usually love and that can last quite some time if the garden is big and the bunny has been a little mean in hiding the eggs in difficult places.

A curious facet of the Easter Egg hunt is that it looks a little like mineral prospecting. With minerals, just as for eggs, you need to search for hidden treasures and, once you have discovered the easy minerals (or eggs), finding the well hidden ones may take a lot of work. So much that some eggs usually remain undiscovered; just as some minerals will never be extracted.

Now, if searching for minerals is similar to searching for Easter Eggs, perhaps we could learn something very general if we try a little exercise in model building. We can use system dynamics to make a model that turns out to be able to describe both the Easter Eggs search and the common "Hubbert" behavior of minerals production. The exercise can also tell us something on how system dynamics can be used to make "mind sized" models (to use an expression coined by Seymour Papert). So, let's try.....

cassandralegacy.blogspot....ert-and-easter-bunny.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-09   22:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#431. To: A K A Stone (#0)

See, the problem for the USSA/Israel is that we haven't gone to war with a CeasarKilling nation since 1945.

Police actions have actually weakened us.

Tehran has cut oil supply to Spain

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-10   10:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#432. To: Fred Mertz (#373)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-10   18:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#433. To: A K A Stone (#429)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-10   18:53:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#434. To: mininggold (#422)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-10   18:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#435. To: A K A Stone (#429)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-10   18:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#436. To: redleghunter, mininggold (#434)

I bet she hates the Dukes of Hazard. Say it aint so ming.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-10   19:03:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#437. To: A K A Stone, redleghunter (#436)

I bet she hates the Dukes of Hazard. Say it aint so ming.

He mocks Jesus while claiming to be a Christian so I don't put much stock in what he says about other stuff. I do prefer Challengers though.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-10   19:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#438. To: mininggold (#437)

He mocks Jesus while claiming to be a Christian so I don't put much stock in what he says about other stuff. I do prefer Challengers though.

;}

"Inordinate power in finance begets great wealth inequality. Deals are consummated behind closed doors, and the sole motive is profit. If some benefits should trickle down to the "little people" who live far down the line, that was only a happy accident. The workings of Adam Smith's "invisible hand" are increasingly harder to discern. Big Finance set free from reasonable constraints on its behavior is among the most undemocratic of human institutions. In addition to great power and wealth, it is exclusivity which defines the banking world. To paraphrase George Carlin, it's a big club and we're not in it."

That jesus would be/is totally freaked out is the sine quo non hypocrisy of this entire cluster fu ck.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-10   21:17:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#439. To: Fred Mertz, All (#438)

Our coach just got fired.

No buy out clause. No nothin'.

My bro says he's headed back to Kentucky. Watch for him.

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-10   21:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#440. To: mcgowanjm (#439)

Our coach just got fired.

Yer kiddin me.

I believe you of course.

He'll land somewhere good. He's an excellent coach - got Arkansas into the top 5.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-10   21:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#441. To: A K A Stone (#0)

DATE LAT LON MAG DEPTH km REGION

11-APR-2012 10:43:09 0.77 92.45 8.2 16.4 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATERA

11-APR-2012 09:27:56 1.28 91.73 6.0 9.8 NORTH INDIAN OCEAN

11-APR-2012 08:38:38 2.35 93.07 8.7 33.0 OFF W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATERA

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-11   7:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#442. To: Fred Mertz (#440)

He'll land somewhere good. He's an excellent coach - got Arkansas into the top 5.

Don't lie to your boss when you know the lie won't last a week....;}

O, and make sure your mistress is not your state employee, that you yourself hired.....;}

Petrino left $20 million on Arkansas' table.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-11   7:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#443. To: mcgowanjm (#441)

Tsunami times:

TRINCONMALEE LK 8.6N 81.2E 1116Z 0.04M / 0.1FT 18MIN

COCOS ISLAND AU 12.1S 96.9E 1102Z 0.08M / 0.3FT 18MIN

TELUKDALAM ID 0.6N 97.8E 1045Z 0.19M / 0.6FT 10MIN

SABANG ID 5.8N 95.3E 1010Z 0.36M / 1.2FT 06MIN

MEULABOH ID 4.1N 96.1E 1007Z 1.06M / 3.5FT 12MIN

DART 23401 8.9N 88.5E 0956Z 0.03M / 0.1FT 06MIN

ptwc.weather.gov/ptwc/?re...SUIOX.2012.04.11.1151&obs


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-11   8:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#444. To: hondo68 (#443)

These two were not aftershocks.

Japan should expect one like this within a couple of years.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-11   9:05:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#445. To: All (#444) (Edited)

These two were not aftershocks.

Japan should expect one like this within a couple of years.

Nuclear Expert: Spent Fuel Pool No. 4 likely to shatter or collapse onto its side in a M7.0 quake

# Radio Program on Units 3, 4: Whole Northern Hemisphere at risk right now -- Stor…

# Gundersen: No. 3 fuel pool worse off than No. 4 -- Mechanically it's rubble, the…

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-11   10:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#446. To: All (#445)

March 2012:

Hottest March on record. And by multiple degrees. Unheard of.

2012 on track for hottest year ever.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-11   11:09:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#447. To: A K A Stone (#0)

central bank manipulation is not a law of Nature, it is an artifice of increasingly marginal effectiveness.

when an empire can no longer afford to maintain control over its oldest and closest subject nations, that empire is circling the drain.

Watch Puerto Rico.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   9:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#448. To: A K A Stone (#0)

They, the Nuclear 'energy' community has been lying from day 1.

[PDF] Calorimetry has been routinely used at US and European facilities ... www.lanl.gov/orgs/n/n1/panda/10.%20Calorimetry.pdf

by DS Bracken

The rate of energy emission is equal to the product of the total decay ... resultant rise in the temperature of the calorimeter measurement well. ... portion of the neutrons will escape the calorimeter without depositing their kinetic energy. The ... A heat-flow calorimeter consists of a sample chamber insulated from a constant ...

By measuring the neutron emission rate they know exactly what the temp is and what is happening with the corium.

[quote]In fact, Mr Kimura called the main office of TEPCO in October and he told them that they should measure, interference evaluation as a guideline, the neutron emission rate near the reactor core.

The govt is aiming to bring the reactor temperature down within this year (2011).

But Mr Kimura said that unless TEPCO measures the neutron emission rate, reassurance offered by the government is nothing but the word [...]

HOST #2: I got goosebumps from the warning he made about the danger of tsunami and nuclear power station. I think he had an extremely accurate foresight and predicted the danger of the accident. I am so shocked.[/quote]

enenews.com/ex-fukushima-...tepco-must-measure-neutro

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   9:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#449. To: All (#448)

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#450. To: A K A Stone (#0)

("Word of the deaths of officers will bring cheers at troop movies or in bivouacs of certain units," wrote Marine historian Col. Robert Heinl, Jr., in 1971. "In one such division... fraggings during 1971 have been authoritatively estimated to be running about one a week.")

Still, credit must be given. Increasingly poorly remembered, Vietnam is now one for the ages. After so many years, Afghanistan has finally emerged as a quagmire beholden to no other war. What an achievement! Our moment, Afghanistan included, has proven so extreme, so disastrous, that it’s finally put the unquiet ghost of Vietnam in its grave.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#451. To: All (#450) (Edited)

And here’s the miracle: it has all happened without anyone in Washington grasping the essence of that now-ancient defeat, or understanding a thing.

The "lessons of Vietnam," fruitlessly discussed for five decades, taught Washington so little that it remains trapped in a hopeless war on the Eurasian mainland, continues to pursue a military-first policy globally that might even surprise American leaders of the Vietnam era, has turned the planet into a "free fire zone," and considers military power its major asset, a first not a last resort, and the Pentagon the appropriate place to burn its national treasure.

After Vietnam, the U.S. at least took a few years to lick its wounds.

Tom Engelhardt, co-founder of the American Empire Project and the author of The American Way of War: How Bush’s Wars Became Obama’s as well as The End of Victory Culture, runs the Nation Institute's TomDispatch.com.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#452. To: mcgowanjm (#449)

If demand is down so sharply then why doesn't the price follow its trend?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-12   10:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#453. To: All (#451)

Iran cuts oil supplies to Germany 11 April 2012, 17:26 (GMT+05:00)

Azerbaijan, Baku, April 11 / Trend D.Khatinoglu /

Iran cut oil export to Germany after halting crude oil supplies to Spain and Greece in recent days, Press TV reported.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:50:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#454. To: Fred Mertz (#452)

If demand is down so sharply then why doesn't the price follow its trend?

Federal Reserve market animation. I used to say manipulation, but this 'turkey' died Thanksgiving 2011. And it's only a zombie now.

Note that Every time the commodities take a dive, they immediately get ramped back up.

With Deflation, the Central Banks are irrelevant. All they can do is talk, and devalue the currency.

And with the massive $1.7 Quadrillion in debt derivatives they can't even devalue anymore....at some point the zombie will just plunge to zero or lock up....anytime now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#455. To: Fred Mertz (#452)

If demand is down so sharply then why doesn't the price follow its trend?

If only speculators were required to take physical possession of their purchased commodity.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-12   10:55:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#456. To: All (#451)

The battles fought there (Virginia) after Grant took command of the Army of the Potomac were a close first approximation to the useless slaughter of the western front in the First World War, with one crucial difference: they weren’t useless, from Grant’s and the Union’s perspective, because they formed one part of a broader strategy.

Grant is said to have described that strategy in the homely language he preferred: “I’m going to hold the cat down, and Sherman is going to skin him.” That was exactly what happened, too. Grant’s job was to pin down Lee and the Army of Northern Virginia, respectively the Confederacy’s best general and its toughest army, so that neither one could be spared to the more vulnerable western front.

Meanwhile Grant’s opposite number, Gen. William T. Sherman, marched an army from Tennessee through Georgia to the sea, and then north through the Carolinas toward Virginia; his job was to shatter the Confederacy’s economic and agricultural systems, cripple its ability to feed and supply its armies, and make it impossible for the South to keep fighting.

That was why Sherman’s “bummers” stripped the country bare, leaving behind memories that are still bitter today, and it also explains a detail that rarely gets mentioned in any but the most technical histories of the Civil War: in the course of a months-long campaign that took him through the heartland of the Confederacy, Sherman fought only two significant battles.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#457. To: All (#456)

Grant got the glory, and earned it fairly, but Sherman may have been the 19th century’s most innovative military thinker.

When he came face to face with a Confederate army, whenever the strategic situation allowed, he evaded it, slipped past it, got behind it, and threatened its lines of communication and supply, forcing it to retreat in disarray.

Long before anyone else, he grasped that it’s not necessary to fight a pitched battle to win a war, and that a force that can move fast, get behind its enemy, and target the vulnerable territory behind the lines can cripple the ability of the other side to wage war at all.

Most of a century later, that approach to war came to be called “blitzkrieg;

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   10:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#458. To: All (#457)

...Finally, to guarantee all these things, the British government would have been forced to accept an occupying force in Britain, and permanent military bases would be signed over to the new imperial power in Britain and its remaining colonies. That, by and large, is what happened to defeated nations in the wars of the 19th and 20th centuries.

Now compare that list to the relations between Great Britain and the United States from 1945 to the present. That’s the thing that can’t be mentioned to this day in polite company: the British empire ended in the early 1940s when the United States conquered and occupied Britain.

It was a bloodless conquest, like the German conquest of Denmark or Luxembourg, and since the alternative was submitting to Nazi Germany, the British by and large made the best of it.

Still, none of Queen Victoria’s prime ministers would have tolerated for a moment the thought of foreign troops being garrisoned on British soil, which is where thousands of US military personnel are garrisoned as I write these words.

That’s only one of the lasting legacies of the Gasoline War.

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...america-gasoline-war.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-12   11:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#459. To: A K A Stone (#0)

pink slime & chicken nuggets....delicious.

www.bestfoodfacts.org/main/food_for_thought/0/108

""Pink Slime" in Chicken Nuggets? 02/22/2012

After an inquiry regarding mechanically separated chicken in chicken nuggets, we asked Dr. Casey Owens from the University of Arkansas for some clarification. She maintains that this is not the process used to make nuggets.

Best Food Facts: Why is mechanically separated chicken used?

Dr. Owens: "Mechanically separated chicken (MSC) contains proteins that are useful for other products. It takes on a fine, pasty texture, so it can be formed into a desirable shape. Consumers should note that products using MSC typically have a higher fat content."

Best Food Facts: In this video, the people say that the pink in the meat is from blood, that eyeballs are mixed into the paste, etc. What is the truth?

Dr. Owens: "First and foremost - there is NO chance of eyeballs being in the chicken, because the head is removed much earlier in the process. In the Jamie Oliver video, you can see there is no head on the chicken he presents to the children - the same is true in processing facilities. Mechanically separated chicken is made using the meat left after the breast meat and legs are removed - meat found between the ribs, near vertebrae, around joints, etc. as well as some fat, connective tissue and skin (if there is any that remains on the carcass). There will also be trace amounts of bone, which provide calcium - but bone content is monitored closely as only so much calcium is allowed in MSC. Lastly, some of the meat will appear darker in color becasue it either came from legs (dark meat) or is bone marrow (if bones are broken in the process, some marrow can come out)."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-13   9:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#460. To: All (#459) (Edited)

Without grinding, crushing or pulverizing the bone itself, a machine removes edible tissue from beef and pork bones. If the resulting bits have more than 150 mg of calcium per 100 grams (indicating the presence of bones) they must be labeled "mechanically separated" meat.

Tyson: We don't need no stinkin' inspectors cause all our chickens are safe to eat.

www.propublica.org/specia...ht-it-was-just-pink-slime

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-13   9:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#461. To: mininggold (#455)

If only speculators were required to take physical possession of their purchased commodity.

Then the markets (minus Federal Reserve) would not function.

Specs are lubricant/shock absorbers. Which is why volume is critical and why the Finnacial channels refuse to talk about Volume at all.

BTW, it's OK with me if the markets do not function.

They're zombies now anyway.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-13   10:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#462. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"In due course, their instinct for self-preservation will become suppressed, as other, opportunistic, idealistic or heroic motivations move to the forefront. The progression is the same everywhere: first the people ask, then they demand, then they come and they take. For now, talk of revolution is restricted to those, both in the West and in Russia, who use it to justify their budgets for fermenting or suppressing revolt, respectively. They are, in both cases, a waste of public money.

The Future is Ours!

But if this dynamic were allowed to develop, then much more would be lost. Under Putin, Russia has become more stable and more prosperous. The cities have become more vibrant, and life has become better for many people, not just the ones at the very top. In striking contrast to the USA or the European Union, Russia is solvent rather than bankrupt. Putin gets the credit for these achievements. The slogan of his "United Russia"—"The future is ours"—is overweening and pompous (and, inadvertently, reminiscent of the Third Reich!) but, in some part thanks to his efforts, Russia does have a discernible future in a way that the US and the EU do not.

The Future is... Oops!

Giv­en that this is the case, one would expect the more thoughtful people in the US and in Eu­rope to simply stand back and watch, hop­ing to learn some­thing. Yet mindsets are slow to change, and some of them are still op­erating with their illu­sions of impe­rial power intact. Some of them are seeing orange, and thinking that there might be an opening to smuggle a neocon like Gary Kasparov into the Kremlin. But to a great many Russians their ruse of promoting "freedom and democracy" is already transparent: what they want to do is to destroy Russia's sovereignty. They almost succeeded in destroying it in the 1990s; they won't get that chance again. Now is not their time to try to influence Russian politics; now is their time to shrivel up.

-Dmitry Orlov

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   8:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#463. To: All (#462)

On the other side of May 2005, the financial move to make is extinguishing debt....;}

"City alleges bank misrepresented risk By Brian Duggan - RGJ.com

Reno is suing Goldman Sachs, alleging fraud against one of Wall Street’s largest investment firms. The city claims Goldman persuaded Reno to issue $210 million in bonds in a specialized market that the bank claimed was safe even though it knew it could turn toxic.

Reno is seeking arbitration against the bank through the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, basically a private court for financial institutions.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   9:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#464. To: mcgowanjm (#462)

"United Russia"—"The future is ours"

New dissident crusher vehicle introduced for the D&R conventions...

This recently reorganized, months-old ICE Homeland Security Investigations (formerly known as ICE Office of Investigations) should really be on the radar of anyone because this year they are apparently 'filling in the gaps for the Secret Service' at NSSEs like G20, NATO summits and the Republican and Democratic national conventions. (unfortunately the Secret Service is now a part of DHS, not Treasury.) The Federal Protective Service, which likes to take photos around the Twin Cities (see my 2010 Fort Snelling Undercover Fail video, classic times) is now part of some weird directorate but briefly passed through ICE after being removed from the General Services Administration.

The HSI Special Response Teams are seemingly the top layer of a lot of things, from the war on terror / war on drugs motif, to the Super Bowl, to whatever the hell they are planning to do to immigrants [illegal alien invaders] on the I-5 near LA, which was where this pic was taken according to Copblock. ICE has a large number of staff on the Joint Terrorism Task Forces that do statistic-generating police state busywork around the country, and interestingly this HSI group is now officially becoming publicly distinguished from the rest of ICE -- and the theory of course is HSI would be spun out of ICE to become a freestanding 'directorate', a more modern and insane paramilitary FBI or whatever.

hongpong.com/archives/201...estigations-great-justice


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-14   9:27:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#465. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Targe wrote:Extinction Protocol is reporting that Russia is moving troops close to Iran border and may fight to defend it if West attacks.

I can't find any evidence of this on any other news site though.

http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress. ... an-border/

I've seen it.

The USSA/Israel/NATO/GCC can not attack Iran until it has both the Caucasus and the Syrian/Lebanon Coastlines secure.

Azerbaijan has stated that Israel can not use it's air bases. Turkey the same. Same with the Saudis. And Iraq.

Russian warships heading for Syria: Russian military source A Russian soldier is seen on Smetlivy warship (file photo) Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:35AM GMT Share20 A high-ranking source in the Russian defense ministry says several Russian warships are on their way to the Mediterranean Sea to guard Syrian coasts for the foreseeable future.

“A decision has been made to deploy Russian warships near the Syrian shores on a permanent basis,” the state-run RIA news agency quoted the source as saying on Friday.

The source added that the Russian destroyer Smetlivy, which is patrolling waters off Syria now, will be replaced by another warship from Black Sea Fleet in May.

The official says several warships are on their way to the Mediterranean.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   10:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#466. To: All (#465)

Israel’s supposed ‘left’ newspaper had a piece published today by their resident

right wing scholar, Avi Shavit. For years he has written critical articles about Israel’s zionist left, I imagine thinking of himself as an expert for simply sharing office space with a handful of them….. *

BUT,

* He always seems to be wrong about whatever topic he decides to write about. THIS article from +972 gives a pretty good picture of the man I am talking about and his writings.

* Today he outdid himself, both in literary style and content; in other words he has no idea what he is talking about. His article is based on the premise that Grass’ profound moral failure and the Zionist left’s profound failure to respond are a bad sign. They show that leading intellectuals in the West and Israel are no longer capable of defending Israel. Perhaps he should accept the fact that even the zionist left has opinions that differ from his own. Perhaps they are not defending Israel because Israel is WRONG. It’s mighty pompous of him to speak for a group that he obviously abhors. It’s also mighty confusing to try to understand why he is not on the payroll of the Jerusalem Post rather than HaAretz’s.

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com...th-in-gunter-grass-words/

nice to know that everyone in Israel understands that Jpost is a nazi rag....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#467. To: All (#466)

Print US helicopter crashes in Afghanistan US soldiers take positions after racing off the back of a UH-47 Chinook helicopter during an operation in Khost Province, Afghanistan. Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:18PM GMT Share120 LAST UPDATE An American helicopter belonging to the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) has crashed in troubled eastern Afghanistan, Press TV reports.

According to local Afghan officials, the chopper crashed on Thursday night in the country’s eastern province of Khost.

ISAF has also confirmed the incident. However, no further information has been released concerning the cause of the accident or possible causalities.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#468. To: All (#467)

Busy place, Khost....;}

"US spy drone goes down in eastern Afghanistan Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:0AM GMT Share An American spy drone has crashed in Ghazni province in the east of war-ravaged Afghanistan, Press TV reports.

www.presstv.ir/detail/236134.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#469. To: hondo68 (#464) (Edited)

This recently reorganized, months-old ICE Homeland Security Investigations (formerly known as ICE Office of Investigations) should really be on the radar of anyone because this year they are apparently 'filling in the gaps for the Secret Service' at NSSEs like G20, NATO summits and the Republican and Democratic national conventions. (unfortunately the Secret Service is now a part of DHS, not Treasury.)

They never did solve that ICE killing in LA couple months ago.

And ICE has been shown their place in the CartelGun Running/FBI Informants are Cartel Leaders Case.....;}

ICE in other words is just a fancy Federal MERc outfit, probably given orders by Blackwater/Xie/Acadamie MERCS.

And I'll look that up about the SS not being Treasury any more. The SS does not take orders from the FBI or anyone else.

But the SS does love it's Colombian booze and prostitutes....;}

Title: Breaking: Misconduct alleged against Secret Service agents Source: AP URL Source: hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... &SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Published: Apr 14, 2012 Author: JULIE PACE and FRANK BAJAK Post Date: 2012-04-14 10:43:00 by SJN

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=29399

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#470. To: All (#467)

According to local Afghan officials, the chopper crashed on Thursday night in the country’s eastern province of Khost.

ISAF has also confirmed the incident.

Helos are getting hard to come by in the Afghans.

Even further becausde high ranking officials are now making sure a X number is always OnStandBy for transport out of the country....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#471. To: hondo68 (#464)

Some Ecuadorian children, many of them indigenous, are subjected to forced labor and sex trafficking in Colombia. Illegal armed groups forcibly recruit children to join their ranks; an international organization estimates that at least 10,000 children participate in illegal armed groups. Members of gangs and organized criminal networks force relatives, acquaintances, and displaced persons – typically women and children – into conditions of sex trafficking and forced labor, including in the illegal drug trade. Colombia is a destination for foreign child sex tourists from the United States and Europe, particularly to coastal cities such as Cartagena and Barranquilla.

This is an embarrassment to the US on multiple levels. If the charges are true, DHS should be advertising for one or more open positions in the Secret Service.

Update: I had forgotten that the Secret Service was moved out of Treasury and into the Department of Homeland Security. I’ve corrected it above.

Update II: The shooting incident involved an agent from the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security, not the Secret Service. The Post included it because the agent was on the advance security team for Obama’s Asia summit, and I didn’t read it closely enough. Thanks to reader Marilu for the correction."

None of this alphabet soup knows their territory. You're looking at future gangs of the USSA....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:30:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#472. To: All (#471)

Assymmetric Secret Servicing Initiative: Obama's Colombia Visit Found To Subsidize Local Alternative Monogamy Market Tyler Durden's picture Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/13/2012 23:35 -0400

Obama may not be the most successful president when it comes to creating jobs at home, but when success is measured by the number of blowjobs outsourced abroad, he may be truly second to none, as his visit to Colombia proves before it has officially begun. According to the AP, "A dozen Secret Service agents sent to Colombia to provide security for President Barack Obama at an international summit have been relieved of duty because of allegations of misconduct." Relieved here being a perfectly randomly selected verb.

zerohedge.com

All joking aside, here is how Politico framed the 5 political benefits (with or without friends) that the Colombian visit was supposed to embiggen. We can probably trim that list to one: endless humor for the late night stand-up comedy circuit as well as hours of rhetorical poetry waxing by Obama's political adversaries.

www.zerohedge.com/news/ob...ternative-monogamy-market

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-14   11:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#473. To: mcgowanjm (#469)

But the SS does love it's Colombian booze and prostitutes....;}

I saw that story last night. I'm not sure what to make of it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-14   11:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#474. To: Fred Mertz, mcgowanjm (#473) (Edited)

"One of the agents did not pay one of the prostitutes, and she complained to the police," Kessler said.

Read more: www.thebostonchannel.com/...detail.html#ixzz1s231EPAr

The whole scandal was exposed when the SS didn't pay one of the hookers, and she reported it to the local police.

Further evidence that the Obama administration abuses women. Deadbeat dicks.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-14   12:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#475. To: hondo68 (#474)

The whole scandal was exposed when the SS didn't pay one of the hookers, and she reported it to the local police.

Further evidence that the Obama administration abuses women. Deadbeat dicks.

Every day, Obama is acting more and more like a good capitalist.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-04-14   12:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#476. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Tet Offensive (Kabuk version) underway.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   8:54:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#477. To: mininggold, hondo68, All (#475)

It takes years for the Praetorian Guard to get compromised.

Note the total lack of connection with the 4 bombs exploded?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   8:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#478. To: mininggold (#475) (Edited)

Every day, Obama is acting more and more like a good capitalist.

From the moment he puts Geithner/Summers/Ruben/Dimon/Blankfein in place and signals the Military is good to go, a week after the election.....the only surprise is how craven the man is.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   8:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#479. To: hondo68 (#474)

The whole scandal was exposed when the SS didn't pay one of the hookers, and she reported it to the local police.

Further evidence that the Obama administration abuses women. Deadbeat dicks.

So, if the Secretly Serviced had only paid the woman, everything would've been A-OK?....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   8:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#480. To: All (#479)

This tells you everything you need to know about the state.

The fish head is rotten...long ago.

I don't think they have enough helos in Kabul to transport all the officials that will be hanged immediately after the US Ambassador leaves.

US Embassy under attack now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#481. To: All (#480)

Taliban Pakistan release 1200 prisoners.

Inspector General details troubling statistics

April 13, 2012

Each U.S. diplomat in Kabul is limited to no more than one bottle of hard liquor, three bottles of wine and two cases of beer per day.

This stunning information is contained in the report of the State Department’s Inspector General dated February 10, 2010 (report #ISP-I-10-32A). The findings were so controversial that the Inspector General felt compelled to conduct a follow-up inspection last year. In his updated report in June 2011, he vaguely found that some additional restrictions had been added, but he refused to list them, apparently because the alcohol limits per diplomat remain outrageously high. As our inquiry revealed, this is only the tip of the iceberg....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#482. To: All (#481)

#

1. Taliban launch raids on Kabul and other Afghan targets BBC News‎ - 3 hours ago The Taliban carry out co-ordinated attacks on embassies, parliament ... news agency reported that the newly built Kabul Star hotel was on fire.

1. Afghanistan attackers take over hotel, police say CNN International‎ - 2 hours ago

2. Taliban hits Afghan capital, other cities in rare coordinated attack Washington Post‎ - 30 minutes ago

# BREAKING NEWS - KABUL HOTEL UNDER TALIBAN GUNMEN ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:08:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#483. To: All (#482)

Wonder when we get a live feed from Kabul.

Combo of Sunday news embargo, and everyone in Kabul with their heads down and the USSA not in charge of the situation yet.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#484. To: All (#483)

Taliban’s Zabihullah Mujahiddd told Reuters that the attacks had been planned for months.

Witnesses said suicide bombers had taken over the newly-built Kabul Star hotel, which was reportedly on fire in an area which includes a major U.S. military base, the United Nations office and the presidential palace.

Several other attackers tried to enter the Afghan parliament but were engaged by security forces and driven back, an official said.

They had taken cover in a building near the parliament and fights were ongoing, parliamentary media officer Qudratullah Jawid told AFP.

Gunfire and explosions were reported from at least three areas of the capital, including the diplomatic enclave.

As the attacks began, several large explosions and bursts of gunfire were heard near the United States embassy.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/04/15/207881.html

Alarabiya's the USSA's Arab VOA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#485. To: All (#484)

HEY, I won the Google game.

Did you mean: Taliban’s Zabihullah Mujahid told Reuters that the attacks had been planned for months. Search Results

1. Kabul under gunfire and explosions, Taliban claim responsibility english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/04/15/207881.html You +1'd this publicly. Undo 2 hours ago – Taliban's Zabihullah Mujahiddd told Reuters that the attacks had been planned for months. Witnesses said suicide bombers had taken over the ...

The object of the game is to get just one hit from a search.....LMFAO....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:14:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#486. To: All (#485)

The militants also stormed the Star Hotel near Hamid Karzai’s residence in the capital.

All foreign embassies in Kabul, the NATO headquarters, and the presidential palace are on lockdown following the attacks.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:16:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#487. To: All (#486)

4/15/12 A very busy day in history.

From Dallas to Cartagena The plan is to draw out the negotiations with Iran until after the American Presidential election, at which point the Jew Jackboot won't be pressing on Obama's throat - he will no longer be dependent on their money to be reelected - and sensible, adult negotiations can reach a successful conclusion. Therefore, the Jews have to blow Barry's head clean off before November.

Barry's visiting Colombia.

Colombia is a hotbed of nefarious activities by 'ex' Israeli soldiers.

2007: "Colombia, Israel and rogue mercenaries"

2012: "Colombia: 8 Israelis suspected of drug trafficking"

Remember back in '63 when the ability of the Secret Service to protect JFK was compromised by arranging for them to drink late into the night at a Dallas nightclub?

"Misconduct alleged against Secret Service agents":

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#488. To: All (#487)

Google definitely filtering Kabul news.

economictimes.indiatimes..../articleshow/12675312.cms

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#489. To: All (#488)

Gunmen launched multiple attacks in the Afghan capital Kabul on Sunday, assaulting Western embassies in the heavily guarded, central diplomatic area and at the parliament in the west, witnesses and officials said.

The Taliban claimed responsibility, saying their main targets were the German and British embassies and the headquarters of Afghanistan's NATO-led force.

Taliban fighers had also launched assaults in two provinces, a spokesman for the insurgents said.

"We claim responsibility for these attacks," said Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid.

Attackers fired a rocket-propelled grenade into a house used by British diplomats in the city centre and smoke billowed from the building after the blast, a Reuters witness said.

Two rockets hit a British Embassy guard tower near the Reuters office in the city.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#490. To: Fred Mertz (#473)

I saw that story last night. I'm not sure what to make of it.

The Secret Service has been compromised.

I'm looking for who made the decision to move the SS out of the Treasury.

I did not know that til hondo told me yesterday.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:35:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#491. To: All (#490)

Gunfire came from various directions in the area, close to both the U.S. and British embassies, while smoke billowed from the nearby German embassy, the Reuters witnesses said.

Embassy alarms were sounding. Staff at the embassies were not available for comment.

Attackers also fired rockets at the parliament building, in the west of the city, and at the Russian embassy, a spokesman for the parliament said.

Afghan media said insurgents had stormed the Star Hotel complex near the presidential palace and the Iranian embassy and black smoke was pouring from the building.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#492. To: All (#491)

Staff at the embassies were not available for comment.

Then it's impossible to get a live feed.

The reporter has no one to tell him/her the USSA spin.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#493. To: mcgowanjm (#479)

So, if the Secretly Serviced had only paid the woman, everything would've been A-OK?....;}

They disrespected the ho's! Obumma lost the trust of the drug cartels, they're backing the other gay Marxist now, the one from Massachusetts.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-15   9:43:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#494. To: All (#492)

Karzai evacuated from Kabul Palace......

No. Not yet... ;}. But before Xmas....;}

insurgents had stormed the Star Hotel complex near the presidential palace and the Iranian embassy and black smoke was pouring from the building.

On the outskirts of the city, militants also targeted a Nato base known as Camp Warehouse with mortar fire, according to an AP reporter at the scene. Turkish and Greek forces at the base were responding with heavy-caliber machine gun fire.

Last week, Mujahid said in a statement that Taliban planners were preparing to launch a spring offensive. In a statement posted on a Taliban website on Thursday, he said Nato officials should have patience, because Taliban commanders would wait for the “appropriate time” to launch attacks.

Cool customers.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#495. To: hondo68 (#493)

They disrespected the ho's! Obumma lost the trust of the drug cartels, they're backing the other gay Marxist now, the one from Massachusetts.

That's just so mangled, it's actually almost true....;}

I'm looking at the ZETA's as the nextgen AZTECS...;}

The AZTECS only lost because they ran out of resources. And with PEMEX, the ZETA's got all they need.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#496. To: All (#495)

When the US Embassy in Mexico City comes under attack...

that'll be the USSA equivalent of the Brits getting kicked out of Dublin....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#497. To: All (#496)

The other assaults were in the capital cities of the provinces of Logar, Paktia and Nangarhar.

In the Logar province capital of Pul-e-Alam, provincial police chief Ghulam Shakhi said militants had entered a building that belongs to the education department, which is near a building used by the Afghan intelligence service, and a gunbattle was under way.

I don't even have my tv on. The USSAMedia is so sad.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:50:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#498. To: All (#497)

Nato said it was aware of reports of an explosion in the proximity of a coalition installation near Jalalabad, the provincial capital of Nangarhar, but could provide no details about the blast.

AP

That's the airport/base.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   9:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#499. To: mcgowanjm (#495)

Military ensnared in Colombia Secret Service scandal

CARTAGENA, Colombia — Five U.S. military members have been ordered confined to quarters over possible involvement in inappropriate conduct at the same hotel here as the 11 Secret Service personnel sent home in an unfolding scandal involving local prostitutes.

Making the announcement Saturday, United States Southern Command commander Gen. Douglas Fraser said he is “disappointed by the entire incident and that this behavior is not in keeping with the professional standards expected of members of the United States military.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75134.html#ixzz1s7QoBDi3


Don't ask, don't tell is still in effect, they're not saying which branch of the service they're in.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-15   10:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#500. To: A K A Stone (#0)

NBC's Akbar Shinawar in Kabul said the Taliban also claim to have attacked president Hamid Karzai's presidential palace compound, although that claim could not immediately be verified.

Maybre Karzai Is getting his helo ready...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   11:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#501. To: hondo68 (#499) (Edited)

Don't ask, don't tell is still in effect, they're not saying which branch of the service they're in.

I'm going with Navy....;}

4 bombs, two in Cartagena, two around the US Embassy in Bogota.

Someone's testing USSA Security Protocol....;}

'The most serious Security scandal in SS history.'

Ground Rules for Security Staff:

Rule 1: Do not...and I repeat...do not stiff a hooker.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   11:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#502. To: All (#501)

Fighting was going on at some facilities of NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and near the U.S., Russian and German embassies, ISAF said via Twitter.

Translation:

'We have no idea of what's happening, yet."

The Ultimate diss of USSAMedia:

KUNA (Kuwait News Agency):

'Waiting for Taliban to update casualty list.'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-15   11:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#503. To: mcgowanjm (#500)

Karzai Is getting his helo ready...;}

Headed to the Bush ranch in Paraguay.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

hondo68  posted on  2012-04-15   13:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#504. To: mcgowanjm (#481)

April 13, 2012

Each U.S. diplomat in Kabul is limited to no more than one bottle of hard liquor, three bottles of wine and two cases of beer per day.

These are limits? I'd call them excesses.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-15   16:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#505. To: Fred Mertz (#504)

I'd call them excesses.

No kidding!

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-15   17:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#506. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Good Morning, Kabul!!!! ;}

The truth replaced by silence is evil.

Turn on your TV now to see it....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#507. To: lucysmom, Fred Mertz (#505)

I'd call them excesses.

No kidding!

I really think this is a back door way to get booze into the Afghans.

Liquor is against their religion.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#508. To: hondo68 (#503)

Karzai Is getting his helo ready...;}

Headed to the Bush ranch in Paraguay.

Paraguay, the new UN of the World.

All rich refugees represented.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#509. To: All (#502)

Fighting was going on at some facilities of NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and near the U.S., Russian and German embassies, ISAF said via Twitter.

Translation:

'We have no idea of what's happening, yet."

The Ultimate diss of USSAMedia:

KUNA (Kuwait News Agency):

'Waiting for Taliban to update casualty list.'

Robin 'Salute the Troops' Meade is an ignorant hypocrite.

not even thirty seconds this Monday AM Headline News.

And 1/2 of that is that the US has everything under control in Kabul.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....8D

Where to fu cking to start.

......as heavy fighting continued into Monday morning on the streets of the Afghan capital.

The USSA military/State Dept have learned absolutely ZERO from Vietnam...no....take that back....they've learned that the Vietnam Syndrome will not be allowed.

My Lai, the Tet Offensive and now 'Amb' Crocker stating on CNN (when he was on was at a weird time(probably 23 min after the hour;)to proclaim that 'the Taliban are great at making speeches but not so good at fighting'.

Our Head Afghan 'Diplomat' actually said that.....;}

Afghan lawmaker Shukria Barakzai told the BBC that she was sceptical about the ability of Afghan security forces to deal with insurgents without foreign support. She said she wanted "a clear answer" from the authorities about why it had taken so long to fight off the assault. Correspondents say the attacks have shattered the confidence of Afghans, as the insurgents have once more shown that they can strike right in the heart of Kabul.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#510. To: All (#509)

Even Here!!! LMFAO We go no where until we learn history.

And we haven't gone anywhere since 1975....

wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_co...he_US_win_the_Vietnam_War

Also to be considered is the role of the western media in turning American military victories into propaganda victories for the Communists, in enabling them to "win" the war, which war itself was tragic for both sides.

Underlying the importance of such is the often quoted exchange between Colonel Harry G. Summers, Jr. and his North Vietnamese counterpart, Colonel Tu. During one of his liaison trips to Hanoi, Colonel Harry told Tu, "You know, you never beat us on the battlefield," Colonel Tu responded, "That may be so, but it is also irrelevant." The success of the propaganda war has seemed enigmatic to many. "If there is to be an inquiry related to the Vietnam War, it should be into the reasons why enemy propaganda was so widespread in this country, and why the enemy was able to condition the public to such an extent that the best educated segments of our population (that is, media and university elite) gave credence to the most incredible allegations." (Final Report - Chief of Military History - U.S. Government)

British "Encounter" journalist Robert Elegant stated, "For the first time in modern history, the outcome of a war was determined not on the battlefield but on the printed page and television screens - never before Vietnam had the collective policy of the media sought, by graphic and unremitting distortion, the victory of the enemies of the correspondents own side." The most manifest example is this regard is seen as being the portrayal of the TET offensive, in which western media was charged with inspiring and aiding the propaganda war of the communists.

"The Tet Offensive proved catastrophic to our plans. It is a major irony of the Vietnam War that our propaganda transformed this debacle into a brilliant victory. The truth was that Tet cost us half our forces. Our losses were so immense that we were unable to replace them with new recruits." (Truong Nhu Tang - Minister of Justice - Viet Cong Provisional Revolutionary Government - The New York Review, October 21, 1982)

Read more: wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_co...Vietnam_War#ixzz1sCmUVRRh

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:20:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#511. To: All (#510)

Underlying the importance of such is the often quoted exchange between Colonel Harry G. Summers, Jr. and his North Vietnamese counterpart, Colonel Tu. During one of his liaison trips to Hanoi, Colonel Harry told Tu, "You know, you never beat us on the battlefield," Colonel Tu responded, "That may be so, but it is also irrelevant."

Even there. Where the military historians debate each other.

They TOTALLY miss the point of Colonel Tu.

The POINT:

That the Guerrilla War is NOt over until the guerrillas say it is!!!!!

What the USSA learned.

Replace the Truth with Silence. Say that Everything in Kabul is under control.

If we 'd done this in VietNam, we would've won.

Just Priceless Bull Shite.

The USSA will not know what hit it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#512. To: All (#511)

"My guess, based on previous experience here, is this is a set of Haqqani network operations out of north Waziristan and the Pakistani tribal areas," American Ambassador Ryan Crocker told CNN.

"Frankly I don't think the Taliban is good enough."

Right now I don't know if Crocker will make it out of the Afghans alive.

He believes his own bull shite.

The helo will be ready, but he'll say that the Taliban can't get him....

www.hindustantimes.com/wo...-day/Article1-841235.aspx

And of course any up to date info has to come from Anywhere but the USSA Media.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#513. To: All (#512)

Taliban 'spring offensive' rocks Afghanistan Western embassies and parliament attacked in biggest attack on Kabul since 2001, as security forces continue fightback. Last Modified: 16 Apr 2012 03:08

2001...2001...now what was happening in 2001 in the Afghans....;}

Must not have been much if the Last 18 hours means anything.

The USSAMEdia would've covered something like this non stop.

I think these foreign news agencies are just spreading enemy propaganda.

Like this guy thinks with his discussion of why the US did not win in Viet Nam:

"

The reality is the US decimated the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong; the latter not really being a true fighting force than a terror group, massacring women and children regularly to spread fear among South Vietnamese. The mission of the US and its allies was to contain North Vietnam and keep them out of South Vietnam, not topple the Communist regime. As the conflict dragged on into years, this came to be seen by the American populace and others as an exercise in futility. Meanwhile, the idea that a small, third-world country in Southeast Asia becoming a Communist state would be any type of threat to Democracy became increasingly seen as an illusion. The fact that the US won every battle and enemy body counts remained disproportionately high could not gloss over the destruction being broadcast into American living rooms on a nightly basis, eventually galvanising public opinion against the war.

Read more: wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_co...Vietnam_War#ixzz1sCq2tAGg

INSANE...The above is what passes for Intel in DC this AM...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   8:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#514. To: mcgowanjm (#506)

The truth replaced by silence is evil.

Turn on your TV now to see it...

How about a youtube video instead.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-16   8:37:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#515. To: All (#513)

Let's do a History Lesson.

According to the BBC even up to today:

news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/...ewsid_2648000/2648951.stm

"White House intelligence in Washington anticipated attacks over the Tet holiday to celebrate the lunar new year, but they were surprised by their intensity.

Sporadic fighting is still being reported in Saigon but the main hostilities - which began at 1800 local time two days ago - are reported to have ceased.

Reality:

Tet Offensive lasts til the End of May...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kham_Duc

"In the early hours of May 10, elements of the Viet Cong 1st Regiment attacked Ngok Tavak, and they successfully overran much of the outpost. By dawn, the 11th MSF Company was devastated, but they later received reinforcements which came in the form of the 12th Mobile Strike Force Company. Despite having received assurances that further reinforcements would arrive to relieve the outpost, the commander of the 11th MSF Company decided to evacuate his troops and move towards Kham Duc. By that time, however, the Viet Cong 1st Regiment had already turned their attention to the main target at Kham Duc, and they only left behind some local force units to destroy allied reinforcements. Meanwhile, elements of the Americal Division had been airlifted into Kham Duc as part of Operation Golden Valley, to bolster the strength of the Special Forces Camp there.

On the morning of May 11, the North Vietnamese 2nd Division surrounded Kham Duc, and they gradually forced United States-led forces into their bases after several outposts were overrun. Westmoreland then ordered Kham Duc to be evacuated, so the 834th Air Division was told to make an all-out effort to extract all the people in Kham Duc, both military and civilian. By the time the evacuation was completed, nine U.S. military aircraft had been shot down, including two C-130s. On May 12, the North Vietnamese were in complete control of Kham Duc, and the battle resulted in a major defeat for the United States military."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   9:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#516. To: All (#515)

Expect a major reversal somewhere in the afghans with fragging/mutiny.

In the next weeks.

O and a surprise visit (there can be no other kind;) by Obama into Kabul or Islamabad.

Apr 16, 1968: Johnson arrives in Honolulu Previous Day April 16 Calendar Next Day

At a series of meetings in Honolulu, President Johnson discusses recent Allied and enemy troop deployments with U.S. military leaders. He also conferred with South Korean President Park Chung Hee to reaffirm U.S. military commitments to Seoul and assure Park that his country's interests would not be compromised by any Vietnamese peace agreement.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   9:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#517. To: A K A Stone (#0)

But whatever you expect, don't expect this.

The USSA is way too far gone:

March 31, 1968

"What we won when all of our people united just must not now be lost in suspicion, distrust, selfishness, and politics among any of our people.

Believing this as I do, I have concluded that I should not permit the Presidency to become involved in the partisan divisions that are developing in this political year.

With America's sons in the fields far away, with America's future under challenge right here at home, with our hopes and the world's hopes for peace in the balance every day, I do not believe that I should devote an hour or a day of my time to any personal partisan causes or to any duties other than the awesome duties of this office--the Presidency of your country.

Accordingly, I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your President.

But let men everywhere know, however, that a strong, a confident, and a vigilant America stands ready tonight to seek an honorable peace--and stands ready tonight to defend an honored cause--whatever the price, whatever the burden, whatever the sacrifice that duty may require.

Thank you for listening.

Good night and God bless all of you.

NOTE: The President spoke at 9 p.m. in his office at the White House. The address was broadcast nationally.

www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/joh...m/speeches.hom/680331.asp

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   9:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#518. To: All (#1)

O and one more thing per Kunstler Blog this AM:

".... The crucial moment in this recent history of race relations, it seems to me, must be located in the events between 1966 and 1970. This was the historical moment that followed the deconstruction of legal race codes with the passage into law of the Public Accommodations Act of 1964 and then the Voting Rights Act of 1965. These two legislative milestones, promoted and signed by Lyndon Johnson, were supposed to conclude the unfinished business of the Civil War and emancipation, which had festered so long in the Jim Crow inurement. The expectation was that the removal of legal obstacles to full citizenship would hasten economic justice and cultural equality, but just then something curious happened: the youth revolt of the late 1960s was underway and young black America immediately opted for separatism."

kunstler.com/blog/2012/04/a-kid-with-skittles.html

Only when the State gets desperate with it's wars do the Bottom 99% get any kind of reforms.

Expect some kind of Single Payer Medicare/VA for all....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-16   10:47:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#519. To: mcgowanjm (#508)

Paraguay, the new UN of the World.

Is that where Bush was rumored to have bought a ranch?

Anyone claiming to be an expert is selling something. I brandish my ignorance like a crucifix at vampires. Aaron Bady

lucysmom  posted on  2012-04-16   11:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#520. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I think this guy is US Ambassador Crocker's suck up son....I mean, this is exactly the way Crocker/Panetta/JCS Dempsey think:

"The Light At the End of the Tunnel topic posted Sun, April 24, 2011 - 6:27 PM by Forrest (note the date and how this 'thinking' has the evolution of granite...;)

" The Taliban are entering the death-spiral phase of their comeback campaign.

This can be seen by sharply reduced activity in the countryside (where the surge in NATO and Afghan troops has broken the fighting spirit of the Taliban), and the increased reliance on high-profile terror attacks. NATO casualties are down from the same period last year, although the media coverage of Taliban terror attacks might make you think otherwise. The fighting through the Winter was particularly damaging to the Taliban, and recruiting for this year's "Spring Offensive" has been difficult. It's been known for over two years that this switch in tactics was coming. It's the same pattern seen in Iraq. Moreover, many Taliban leaders are trying to negotiate some kind of deal with the government. Some of these settlements have already been made, and now the Taliban have one less ally and one more target.

The terror campaign could go on, intensely, for a year or two. But eventually, the "fighting" Taliban are going to run out of money, men and places to hide.

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/afg...424.aspx

No guerrilla movement can succeed without foreign support, and the Taliban's foreign supporters in Pakistan are themselves under serious strain.

The Only thing this moron left out was this:

"and has close links with al-Qaida"...LMFAO....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#521. To: lucysmom (#519)

Is that where Bush was rumored to have bought a ranch?

100 000 acres, cheek to jowl with the US SpecOp Base.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#522. To: A K A Stone (#514)

How about a youtube video instead.

Here you go...;}

# Al Qaeda Leader: Urges Syrians Against US and Israel - YouTube ► 0:57► 0:57

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dabqbR1dOisJul 28, 2011 - 57 sec - Uploaded by AlArabiya Al Qaeda Leader: Urges Syrians Against US and Israel On July 27, Al-Qaeda leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri ... # The Parcel Bomb Plot - Al-Qaeda's Gift to Israel - YouTube ► 7:43► 7:43

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvieNyBYZcoNov 10, 2010 - 8 min - Uploaded by argonium79 While Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) may have claimed responsibility for the parcel bomb plot ... #

GGN: Al Qaeda Urges World Back Syrian Rebel/ Al Qaeda, Israel ... ► 15:01► 15:01

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSjWEwlyzkMFeb 13, 2012 - 15 min - Uploaded by DDarko2013 PLEASE SUBSCRIBE Please visit: www.ggnonline.com for the latest news commentary by Global ... # *Obama Watch* Aiding Al Qaeda, Islamic Extremists. (Israel, Bible ... ► 7:52► 7:52

www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8jE88dZjX4Feb 18, 2012 - 8 min - Uploaded by noimplant4me rt.com/news/us-al-qaeda-syria-otrakji-635/ http://rt.com/news/syria- opposition-al-qaeda-us-567/ # GGN: Al Qaeda Urges World Back Syrian Rebel/ Al Qaeda, Israel ... ► 15:01► 15:01

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVJ3KpKSU30Feb 13, 2012 - 15 min - Uploaded by ddarko2012 PLEASE SUBSCRIBE Please visit: www.ggnonline.com for the latest news commentary by Global ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:35:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#523. To: All (#522)

US Frames Losing Defensive Posture in Afghanistan as Last Push for Victory As the Taliban gears up for its spring offensive, the US's lost war will be even more starkly illustrated

by John Glaser, April 16, 2012

news.antiwar.com/2012/04/...as-last-push-for-victory/

Amerikans have zero idea of the monster slouching toward Bethlehem.

TURNING and turning in the widening gyre. The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart ... And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches .... William Butler Yeats

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#524. To: All (#523)

Insurgents mounted spectacular coordinated attacks over the weekend that set off an 18-hour battle with NATO forces, an emphatic indication of their annual spring offensive and a public relations embarrassment for the U.S. at what seems to be the lowest point in the war.

I would say, maybe 10% of Amerikans have a clue that this happened Sunday....maybe.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#525. To: All (#524)

U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said, ”These are isolated attacks that are done for symbolic purposes, and they have not regained any territory.”

Less than 1% realize that Australia will be gone by August:

Australia to withdraw troops from Afghanistan earlier than expected ... www.cnn.com/2012/04/16/wo...a/australia.../index.html

1 hour ago – Australian troops could begin pulling out from Afghanistan this year

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#526. To: All (#525)

To present this spring’s increased violence as a last strategic push to win the war – which is how its being presented – is really an embarrassingly transparent attempt at war propaganda.

Khe Sahn and Kham Duc approach.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   8:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#527. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Israel’s Fear of Three Simple Words: Welcome to Palestine By Joharah Baker

The Palestinians may seem to be in a very unenviable position at present but yesterday proves that popular opinion is moving in the right direction. Let Air France, Lufthansa, Alitalia and Turkish Airways kowtow to Israel and squirm at their own lack of chutzpah. One day they too will tire of Israel’s dictates. In the meantime, our friends will continue to show their solidarity with us, either in Palestine, in airport terminals or their own countries, and the occupation, eventually, will fall. Of this, there is no doubt.

Joharah Baker is a Writer for the Media and Information Department at the Palestinian Initiative for the Promotion of Global Dialogue and Democracy (MIFTAH). She can be contacted at mid@miftah.org.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   9:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#528. To: All (#527)

I think there are many people who underestimate just how much d0llar demand is created by 30-40 million hardcore opium/heroin addicts there are worldwide. Try buying your fix using something other than the d0llar for wholesale purchases and just about as difficult for retail on the street purchases. The stormtroopers are protecting a very important d0llar crop. Peace...Tet

Now for what really happened in Kabul, the afghans Sunday:

April 16, 2012

A senior Taliban commander in Kabul boasts to The Daily Beast that Sunday’s strikes against military and diplomatic targets in the Afghan capital and three eastern provinces were just a preview of the fighting season to come. "These are coordinated attacks that went just as we planned," says Qari Talha, "This is only the start of what’s in store this year and next for the Americans and [Afghan President Hamid] Karzai. We will show them our ability."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   9:36:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#529. To: All (#528) (Edited)

First. It's Insane to think that at least 20 suicide people killed no one in a 24 hr gun battle. Starting at noon-2 pm, in the most crowded part of Kabul.

"According to eye witnesses multiple weapon sounds, gunfire and explosions were being heard through the night spreading fear and panic across Kabul city, while heavy fighting was still ongoing after 4:00 a.m. and patrol helicopters were hovering overhead and several ambulances were rushing to and from the fighting scene. A doctor, on the condition of anonymity said that the local hospitals were packed with the dead and wounded from the fighting."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   10:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#530. To: All (#529)

Second. Note the comp[lete lack of detail from USSAnews....;}

And definitely No Pics...

" The group of 13 martyr attackers of Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, almost all at the same time, targeted the so-called ISAF main headquarter, embassies, Parliament house, Presidential Palace, Dar-ul-Aman palace, and other important military and government buildings.

After about 24 hours of extremely lethal fighting with successful onslaughts on these targets involving martyrdom attacks, remote-controlled bomb attacks, direct shooting attacks and other hand grenades attacks killed as many as 93 enemies including US-NATO and their allied troops, local police and soldiers of puppet army, and other foreign diplomats in addition to wounding hundreds of them."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   10:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#531. To: All (#530)

The large-scale operation which simultaneously unleashed at the four provinces of Afghanistan continuing for about 42 nonstop hours, joined by only 30 martyrdom-seeking Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate killed as many as 220 puppets, US-NATO invaders and their allies and wounded numerous of the enemy soldiers.

The funniest thing is the enemy’s blatant lies that brazenly denied their fatalities, as always, by throwing dust in the eyes of the people worldwide and world media, which is typical of the US-NATO invaders. So it may not come as a surprise. The American occupation enemy and its allies are the most famous for understating their fatalities and exaggerating ours, no doubt they are very good at international lies.

However, the Islamic Emirates ask the world and mainstream media to go and just check only the hospitals in these four provinces, the truth will speak for itself.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   10:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#532. To: All (#531)

Eminently strange the way the 1:7 KIA to Wounded ratio holds up in urban combat...

#

# Civilian casualty ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratioCached - Similar

A substantial number of civilians in this war were also deliberately killed by the Axis Powers ... had been killed, and 16000 wounded—a civilian-combatant fatality rate of 5:1. ... This would give a civilian-combatant fatality ratio of about 7:1. ... "even the most moral army can make mistakes, especially in dense urban warfare".

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   10:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#533. To: mcgowanjm (#532)

Hey, you forgot to post all the earthquakes today.

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-17   11:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#534. To: mcgowanjm (#532)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-17   11:36:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#535. To: All (#534)

Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise. Jeremiah 17:14

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-17   11:40:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#536. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone, TooConservative (#521)

"Wikileaks recently released many classified documents that prove that NASA and high-level U.S. official are aware of the three spaceships and are making plans to battle the spaceships. They have been concealing information from the U.S. public for decades. Wikileaks also confirms that the UFO sightings over the last three months prove that the alien invasions (long predicted by SETI) has begun. The three spaceships will mark the official beginning of the alien invasion."

Could not find a good category to post this under so using the mcgowanjm "wire" seemed best:) ALIEN SPACESHIPS TO ATTACK EARTH IN NOVEMBER 2012! Posted on Tuesday, April 17th, 2012 By Frank Lake

Three giant alien spaceships are again heading for Earth! Scientists predict the new ships will arrive in November of 2012. UFO encounters continue to increase – as documented on WWN. And today scientists at SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence), an independent non-commercial organization, made a major announcement:

“Three giant spaceships are heading toward Earth. The largest one of them is 200 miles wide. Two others are slightly smaller. At present, the objects are just moving past Jupiter. Judging by their speed, they should be on Earth by the fall of 2012,” said John Malley, the lead extraterrestrial expert at SETI.

Three similar giant ships landed in China and the Indonesia Sea in November, 2011. They were identified as alien spaceships from Planet Gootan. Three more giant Gootan ships are headed her for November, 2012.

Read two of WWN’s many stories about the three Gootan ships landing in 2011:

THE STORY ABOUT THE LANDING OF THE THREE SHIPS IN NOVEMBER 2011 THE GOOTANS ARE HERE The new Gootan spaceships have been detected by HAARP search system. The system, based in Alaska, was designed to study the phenomenon of northern lights. According to SETI researchers, the objects are extraterrestrial spaceships. They will be visible in optical telescopes as soon as they reach Mars’s orbit – sometime in November of 2012. The US government has been reportedly informed about the event.

SETI researchers have spent fifty years monitoring space. Dr. Malley said that they have conclusively proven that “we are just newcomers in this huge and unexplored world. Many believe that there are many other civilizations in space besides our own civilization.”

Wikileaks recently released many classified documents that prove that NASA and high-level U.S. official are aware of the three spaceships and are making plans to battle the spaceships. They have been concealing information from the U.S. public for decades. Wikileaks also confirms that the UFO sightings over the last three months prove that the alien invasions (long predicted by SETI) has begun. The three spaceships will mark the official beginning of the alien invasion.

Malley said that a Chinese official, Mao Kan, had obtained over than 1,000 secret NASA photographs depicting not only human footprints, but even a human carcass on the surface of the Moon. Some of the bones in the carcass were missing, the official said. The human corpse must have been dropped on the Moon from an alien spaceship, whereas the extraterrestrials kept some tissue samples for research.

Dr. Ken Johnston, former Manager of the Data and Photo Control Department at NASA’s Lunar Receiving Laboratory, said that US astronauts had found and photographed ancient ruins of artificial origin on the Moon. US astronauts had seen large unknown mechanisms on the Moon.

Both Johnston and Mao Kan agree that three more Gootan spaceships are heading for Earth.

Beginning in August of 2012 the U.N. will begin preparing citizens of the world for the second attack of the three Gootan spaceships and a subsequent alien attack, which they predict will be “a large-scale assault.”

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-17   16:22:40 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#537. To: mcgowanjm, A K A Stone, TooConservative (#536)

Got some killer raccoons in Florida.

KILLER RACCOONS IN FLORIDA! Posted on Tuesday, April 17th, 2012 By Frank Lake

MERRITT ISLAND, FL – Wild, vicious raccoons are attacking citizens in Kiwanis Island Park.Brevard County Parks and Recreation closed Kiwanis Island Park on Merritt Island, Florida after hundreds of raccoon attack were reported over the last few weeks. Governor Rick Scott is sending in the National Guard. ”The raccoons are out of control. We’re hoping the Guard can control them… but we’re not taking any chances. We may have to ask the government for help from the NAVY Seals,” said a Florida government insider. Brevard County Animal Services trapped two raccoons, and another trapper contracted by Parks and Recreation trapped two more raccoons at the park Sunday morning. But that didn’t stop the hundreds of other raccoons that are causing mayhem. There are reportedly two casualties from raccoon deaths… so far. Residents are heading out of town – running for their lives.

The first attack was reported by a woman who was eating lunch under a park pavilion. She was surrounded by nine killer raccoons. Luckily she was saved by a Park Ranger. She was transported for medical treatment, but the extent of her injuries was unknown.

Just this morning, a mother and child were on the playground when the child was reportedly bitten by a wild raccoon. The police located the raccoon and after an intense fight, the raccoon was taken out.Kiwanis Island Park is located on State Road 520 on Merritt Island, Florida.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-17   16:34:36 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#538. To: redleghunter (#537)

Could not find a good category to post this under so using the mcgowanjm "wire" seemed best:) ALIEN SPACESHIPS TO ATTACK EARTH IN NOVEMBER 2012! Posted on Tuesday, April 17th, 2012 By Frank Lake

Chuckles.....

If you are not careful you too will fall into Doctor Evil's mcgowanjm kookery abyss.

(posting anything TO Brain Shit is pointless....rather posting derisively AT him makes sense)

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-04-17   16:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#539. To: All (#538)

Going back over this thread leads to serious chuckles.

Also telling is that there are 20-25 post long stretches of blanked doltish bozoed "posts".

(posting anything TO Brain Shit is pointless....rather posting derisively AT him makes sense)

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-04-17   16:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#540. To: e_type_jag (#538)

The purpose of this thread reminds me of the old joke: how do you keep a blonde busy? Put her in a round room and tell her to sit in the corner . . .

war has to do something for entertainment; the voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2012-04-17   16:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#541. To: Rudgear (#540)

how do you keep a blonde busy? Put her in a round room and tell her to sit in the corner . . .

this one i'd not heard but i'll remember:)

and fitting of a soul like jim.

(posting anything TO Brain Shit is pointless....rather posting derisively AT him makes sense)

e_type_jag  posted on  2012-04-17   16:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#542. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Twist one. When the Penn State pedophilia scandal emerged, it turned out that Gricar had declined to prosecute Jerry Sandusky in 1998 over very similar allegations. There are still rumors that the scandal is really about a very powerful pedophilia ring, and not just a cover-up of the actions of one bad guy.

xymphora

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:40:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#543. To: A K A Stone, redleghunter, All (#533)

If all your yoyo's load all their RAM intensive graphs/pics on 'my' site,

you might need to see to adding memory....;}

Cause it could slow down retrieval.

But maybe that's the point, eh?

Cause there sure ain't no info being added.....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:44:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#544. To: redleghunter (#533)

Thanx, red. I was busy.

Here you go:

17-APR-2012 03:50:14 -32.69 -71.45 6.7 25.9 NEAR COAST OF CENTRAL CHILE

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#545. To: e_type_jag (#538)

Doctor Evil's mcgowanjm kookery abyss.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

E tu, Brute?

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:51:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#546. To: All (#545)

So. Anyone wondering why not. one. single word. is being put out about the Epic Fail 'Tet Offensive' in the Afghans?

Someone in the Pentagon is burning the mid nite oil.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#547. To: All (#546)

Anyone interested in the PEnn St Pedophile Ring?

Kinda like SpecOps, boys, and the afghans, eh?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#548. To: All (#547)

Twist two. Deadspin.com recently made a FOIA request to the FBI regarding Gricar (my emphasis in red):

"The documents don't reveal anything about the investigation into Gricar's disappearance, likely because the investigation is ongoing, but they do contain material that will raise eyebrows under all those tinfoil hats. For one, the FBI consulted with the CIA before responding to my request. And the CIA refused to allow certain information to be released because it's classified "in the interest of national defense or foreign policy" and can't be disclosed in order to protect "intelligence sources and methods" as well as the names, titles, etc., of CIA personnel.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#549. To: All (#548)

Wonder if the

Army: 5

Navy: 2

Marines: 2

Air Force: 1

Do any boys with the Secret Service on these Overseas 'missions'....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   20:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#550. To: All (#549)

The Titanicaca:

Meanwhile, the third class passengers are locked up in the hold. The captain has ordered then to suck the water out the ship, the tools assigned to them are soda straws stamped ‘Made in China’. The straws must be bought and paid for before use but the Chinese are willing to extend credit if good collateral is offered.

What to do?

economic-undertow.com

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   21:13:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#551. To: A K A Stone (#0)

What to do?

Are the lower class passengers ready to mutiny and put the officers off the ship or do they desire to take the first-class passengers’ place, so as to better rearrange the deck chairs? Since they are the only ones able to fix the ship’s problems it is really up to them to decide what to do. If they behave as the first class has done the ship will sink. If they attempt to make things right the ship might sink but they also might succeed. If they do nothing there is certain failure. Here is a dilemma that the passengers are ill-equipped to cope with. The passengers must not only act outside their narrow personal interests but also against how class interests as these are ordinarily defined as gains excluded from others. It is also outside decades of ‘television training’ which demands that individuals serve the system in order to be rewarded for their efforts at some unspecified point in the future (never).

When an ocean liner starts taking on water, what governs whether it’s “women and children first” or “every man for himself”? According to a report in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences lead author Benno Torgler, men’s altruistic versus self-serving behavior depends on how quickly the ship sinks.

How quickly the ship sinks, indeed …

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   21:34:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#552. To: All (#551) (Edited)

And speaking of ships sinking,

Spain's Repsol's YPF unit just got nationalized in Argentine.

Argentine thinks it owns the MAldives, btw.

This Englishman thinks they're called the Falklands....;}

April 17, 2012 REPSOL: Everything is a weapon, #3,012

Will the Falkland Islanders soon be learning Chinese?

With the proposed nationalisation of Repsol by Argentina yesterday, the group’s shares fell 7% to 16.31 euros.

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-17   21:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#553. To: mcgowanjm (#546)

So. Anyone wondering why not. one. single word. is being put out about the Epic Fail 'Tet Offensive' in the Afghans?

Someone in the Pentagon is burning the mid nite oil.

You mean, what you get from the Taliban when you shift from being terrain focused to enemy focused? But you do have a good point...Tet was never intended to oust the US by force, but to create a media nightmare for US forces, thus losing American support for the war. Americans from all political walks have already indicated loudly we need to send home our Troops. And that will happen soon enough. Then we will all watch on cable how Karzi and his tribal chiefs go running to the Taliban for support, and will watch the smuggled videos months later of Karzi and his gang getting their throats slit.

Afghanistan is no Iraq.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-18   11:12:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#554. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Thursday, 27 Jamadil Awal 1433 Thursday, 19 April 2012 11:46 LOGAR, Apr. 19 – Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate confronted the invaders military-secured supply convoy of some 5 supply tucks and fuel tankers in the capital of Logar province on Wednesday. A Mujahideen’s official said on Tuesday that 6 security guards were killed and 7 more got wounded with five the enemy vehicles destroyed including 4 oil tankers and 3 trucks filled with supplies of US-NATO invaders, adding that two Mujahideen became martyrs.

As the USSA....wait for it....announces it's Last Offensive... to retake Kabul.....LMFAO....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   8:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#555. To: redleghunter (#553)

You mean, what you get from the Taliban when you shift from being terrain focused to enemy focused?

Explain this, please.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   8:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#556. To: redleghunter (#553)

Americans from all political walks have already indicated loudly we need to send home our Troops. And that will happen soon enough.

Excuse me?

Limping Out of Afghanistan by Immanuel Wallerstein

The two candidates for the U.S. presidency seem to be trying to outshout each other concerning Iran, Syria, and Israel/Palestine. Each is claiming he is doing more to support the same objectives. Isn't it therefore strange that no similar verbal contest is going on at the moment concerning Afghanistan? [ Shah Marai/Agence France-Presse/Getty] In February 2012, some Korans were burned by U.S. soldiers, which led to violent public protests in Afghanistan. (Photo: Shah Marai/Agence France-Presse/Getty

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   8:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#557. To: redleghunter (#553)

And that will happen soon enough. Then we will all watch on cable how Karzi and his tribal chiefs go running to the Taliban for support, and will watch the smuggled videos months later of Karzi and his gang getting their throats slit.

Afghanistan is no Iraq.

First, the Pashtun prefer to hand their puppets...;}

Second, you're correct. The Afghans have no oil and Iraq has no opium.

Big difference.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   9:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#558. To: A K A Stone (#0)

See Israel's Military just got slapped on the nose as India took $70 million in 'guarantee money' for bribery of Indian Generals....

and

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ndhati-roy

There's no escape from the corporations that run India | Arundhati Roy www.guardian.co.uk/.../2012/mar/.../cor ... o...Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Mar 19, 2012 – Arundhati Roy: Domestic mega-corporations' tentacles extend into every ... do you have any idea how vast Tata and Reliance are? did you ...

Great read.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   10:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#559. To: All (#558)

"Rome had its imperial myth, as did Spain, Britain, and just about any other empire you care to think of—but the American version of it deserves close attention, because it obscures factors that need to be understood as the American empire hurtles down the curve of its decline.

The mythology runs more or less like this: in the aftermath of the First World War, America withdrew from the international responsibilities it had briefly taken up during that war, refusing to join the League of Nations and distancing itself from global politics. In the vacuum thus formed, the coming of the Great Depression sent the conflicts that drove the world to war in 1914 spinning out of control again. As Japan invaded China and Germany prepared for war, the United States faced a sharp political conflict between isolationists, who more or less wanted to build a wall around the country and shut the rest of the world out, and those who recognized America’s responsibility to the rest of the world. That struggle only came to an end with the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor; thereafter the American people united to win the war. Once it was won, in turn, they refused to repeat the mistake of 1919, and took up the burden of global leadership that America retains to this day.

Thus the mythology. The reality was considerably more complex.

thearchdruidreport.blogsp...a-price-of-supremacy.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   10:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#560. To: All (#559)

As I have said right from the start, debt forgiveness on a massive scale is the only answer: it is too late in the day now for anything else. There is no such thing as ‘austere simulation’: it is just another mad oxymoron invented by the Brussels morons.

Yesterday, The Slog told everyone that the necrophilia will continue until more sane voices are allowed to be heard. As usual, you read it here first.

From the Archives: Either forgive debt, or face disaster.

Disaster, coming right up.... :twisted: :? 8-)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-19   10:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#561. To: mcgowanjm (#555)

You mean, what you get from the Taliban when you shift from being terrain focused to enemy focused? Explain this, please.

You are seeing more bombings in the East now because the outposts/fire bases were turned over to Afghans, and the US BDEs started more mobile operations in the vallies. It has helped the rural towns fend off the Taliban, but risk is increased by allowing a few "leakers" to get to Kabul.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-19   12:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#562. To: mcgowanjm (#556)

Excuse me?

Limping Out of Afghanistan by Immanuel Wallerstein

The two candidates for the U.S. presidency seem to be trying to outshout each other concerning Iran, Syria, and Israel/Palestine. Each is claiming he is doing more to support the same objectives. Isn't it therefore strange that no similar verbal contest is going on at the moment concerning Afghanistan? [ Shah Marai/Agence France-Presse/Getty] In February 2012, some Korans were burned by U.S. soldiers, which led to violent public protests in Afghanistan. (Photo: Shah Marai/Agence France-Presse/Getty

Yep, gun boat diplomacy at its worst.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-19   12:57:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#563. To: mcgowanjm (#557)

Second, you're correct. The Afghans have no oil and Iraq has no opium.

If we could just figure out how to run cars and trucks on opium:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-19   12:58:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#564. To: mcgowanjm (#560)

As I have said right from the start, debt forgiveness on a massive scale is the only answer: it is too late in the day now for anything else. There is no such thing as ‘austere simulation’: it is just another mad oxymoron invented by the Brussels morons.

Yesterday, The Slog told everyone that the necrophilia will continue until more sane voices are allowed to be heard. As usual, you read it here first.

From the Archives: Either forgive debt, or face disaster.

Disaster, coming right up.... :twisted: :? 8-)

It will be disaster mac. Man cannot heal the pain and suffering of the world no matter how hard "man" tries.

As you have probably realized I am an Army officer with multiple tours to very inhospitable locations over the past 20+ years. I was asked by a fellow officer, a few years ahead of me on his way to 'stars', about what I thought the solution was for a peaceful Iraq. I chuckled and asked him when was the last time Iraq was peaceful. I then told him something that shocked him...Jesus Christ is the only answer, and we should be encouraging missionaries in the region instead of handing despots our American dough, which ends up in radical cleric's pockets, who then fashion explosives to kill our youngsters serving on the line. I then told him even evangelizing the Islamic regions will not bring peace to the earth. Only the Second Coming of Christ when He reigns will bring true peace.

Needless to say, I have not been asked for advice since that day.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-19   15:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#565. To: redleghunter (#537)

I hate coons.

TooConservative  posted on  2012-04-19   19:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#566. To: TooConservative (#565)

I hate coons.

Me too. They're way to greasy.

We The People  posted on  2012-04-19   20:33:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#567. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Martyrdom attack in Helmand kills 13 puppets, injures 11 others Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Friday, 28 Jamadil Awal 1433 Friday, 20 April 2012 09:26

HELMAND, Apr. 20 – A martyrdom attack hit local police station in Garmsir district southern Afghanistan’s Helmand province yesterday, at about 9:00 p.m. local time, a Mujahideen’s official said.

Official said the a lone heroic Mujahid of Islamic Emirate Hameedullah , resident of Helmand province stormed the station and catch the police off guard while

they were having dinner, upon reaching his target, upon having his targets in sight, martyrdom-seeking combatant, Hameedullah opened fire with heavy and light weapons and as soon as he ran out of ammo, the brave Mujahid blew up his explosive vest, killing and wounding about two dozen of the puppets on the spot.

According to a report, about 13 policemen were killed and a further 11 wounded in both direct shooting and bomb attacks.

It is believed that there was no one outside the station on guard duty, taking advantage of which made it easy for the martyr attack to reach his target within the station and conduct a successful attack.

The martyrdom attack come before the shoot-down of the US invaders low-flying helicopter called in to transfer the dead and wounded from the blast site when it was shot with rocket fire near Khanshin district, killing all the American invaders aboard the helicopter.

The Nato, however, confirmed that only four American soldiers had been killed in the incident claiming it was a “crash”, which was, in fact, no crash but a successful shoot-down carried out by Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate.

A police officer and a commander of militia were among those killed in martyrdom operation.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#568. To: All (#567)

I put the above post in first to give context.

Something the 'Support Our Troops' USSAMedia never does....;}

Mujahideen shoot down US helicopter; scores of American invaders killed Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Friday, 28 Jamadil Awal 1433 Friday, 20 April 2012 10:09

HELMAND, Apr. 20 – A report says Friday that Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate downed the US helicopter in Khanshin district of southern Helmand province last night, killing all the American invades aboard.

The enemy helicopter came under rocket fire after 9:00 p.m. last night while it was flying at lower altitude to airlift the dead and wounded of the puppets

killed in martyrdom operation in Garmsir, Helmand province.

The shoot-down follows the successful martyr attack one of deadliest for the US invaders and their puppets.

The enemy confirmed the death of its only four soldiers while many are believed to have been killed in the shoot-down.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:13:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#569. To: All (#568)

The key here is that helos rarely initiate contact with the enemy, but come in to drop troops, support w/an air platform, or remove.

Noting that Never does the Pentagon state the Ground Level Actions with these 'crashes'....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#570. To: All (#569)

14 Japan nukes in a 'Three Mile Island' state or worse.

The status of each SFP is unknown.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#571. To: All (#570)

Vietnam ended only because of the Arab Boycott sent our economy into a tail spin.

And so…learning exactly nothing…the US government repeats the Vietnam/oil boycott disaster this time, inflicting the boycott on ourselves by embargoing one of the biggest oil producers on earth: Iran. This suicidal behavior is seen in the latest headlines at Antiwar.com:

1. NATO Officials Fight Back Against Reducing Size of Afghan Military

2. So, to fix this fiscal problem, NATO begs Russia, China claiming that THEY Should Help Pay for Afghanistan After 2014....8D"

I remember this. My first up close encounter with oil pricing.

Gasoline at the Gulf Station went from $0.37 to $0.44. I thought it was crazy until I found out later that even getting gas was a problem elsewhere.

When our colonies elsewhere today see us completely bogged down and stretched out the same thing will happen again.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#572. To: All (#571)

And which colonies will revolt first?

I'm betting NATO....;}

"5. Since the war spending is the golden goose for Congress and AIPAC, no war or occupation of Muslim nations can ends so to the warmongers running our government into bankruptcy, the 2014 date was “artificial” and that if Afghanistan is such a mess NATO just shouldn’t leave, they say. The Europeans are freaking out because their collective tails are being twisted hard by the Iranians and their economic situation is dire due to overspending by governments and the last thing on earth the people there want is for NATO to be running from one Muslim nation to the next, bogged down in endless wars with enraged natives.

They all want out but the US runs NATO and the US is owned by AIPAC and the wars there will continue until bankruptcy destroys Europe, the US and Japan all at the same time. And history is very clear: all great empires go bankrupt due to foreign interventions that fail due to being futile or costly while taxes are not collected at home due to the very rich refusing to pay for anything at all."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#573. To: redleghunter (#564)

I chuckled and asked him when was the last time Iraq was peaceful.

The end of the Ottoman Empire and then the End of the British Empire.

At the end of the USSA Empire it will be peaceful again.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#574. To: redleghunter (#564) (Edited)

.Jesus Christ is the only answer,

Well let's see.

Then you have the Coptics and Bethlehem under control in the MENA.

Unless of course you count Jesus as Prophet and then you get the Muslim World.

With Religion you instantly pit US v Them. Add the State and you get death. Add oil and you get genocide.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#575. To: redleghunter (#563)

If we could just figure out how to run cars and trucks on opium:)

I'm sure there's an energy component to opium, but it would be almost like running cars and trucks on corn.

Eating it would give much better results...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:37:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#576. To: redleghunter (#562)

Yep, gun boat diplomacy at its worst.

Retreat is very hard for Empire.

Letting the core know ahead of time is never done publicly.

The best you'll get is Hitler November 8, 1942. Germany had lost the war, and everyone in charge knew it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#577. To: redleghunter (#561)

You are seeing more bombings in the East now because the outposts/fire bases were turned over to Afghans, and the US BDEs started more mobile operations in the vallies. It has helped the rural towns fend off the Taliban, but risk is increased by allowing a few "leakers" to get to Kabul.

Exactly VietNam, except no B 52 Carpet Bombing.

A Kabul Offensive after 11 years? And this will be our last.

The 'Tet' Offensive isn't over. There's a Khe Sanh, Kham Duc and then Pleiku waiting....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-20   9:45:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#578. To: TooConservative (#565)

You do have a singular wit. Saw one in the bird bath out back during the severe drought last year in Central Texas drinking some water. Wife and kids watched from the window (while yellow Lab was going crazy at the door) and said "how cute..." I said, yeah cute, to the boys and told them they would not say that when I enlisted them to help clean up the trash the little critter would no doubt toss that night:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-20   11:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#579. To: mcgowanjm (#577)

A Kabul Offensive after 11 years?

If you look at the "rat lines" that come in from the east towards Kabul, the Taliban have been trying (save one year 2007) to do what they are doing now. Up until Spring 2008 the Taliban and their minions obliged NATO by getting mowed down in those eastern valleys. Then they found out we no longer had the will to fight on the home front, and changed their strategy.

On carpet bombing, you are correct. However, the USAF and USN have dropped a lot of bombs and killed a bunch of Taliban in those eastern valleys for quite a long time. As you know we only hear about the bad bomb drops that hit a wedding reception.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-20   13:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#580. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#8. To: Robin, nolu chan, all (#6)

This was once called treason. Now it's legal, as corporations are now people.

I addressed this with Nolu. Nolu doesn't care for me anymore...;}

Note how hard change is made from the bottom up.

And how easy from the top down.

When is this addressed? Only when the state is in danger. Abe Lincoln, FDR, LBJ danger.

Justice-as-Truth Legal Argument

by W'Lawpsh / April 20th, 2012

Truth is the summit of being: justice is the application of it to affairs…and whatever instances can be quoted of unpunished theft, or of a lie which somebody has credited, justice must prevail, and it is the privilege of truth to make itself believed.

– Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803-1882)

1. The Constitution precludes imperialism as against “foreign Nations and Indian tribes.”

"20. Certainly those Americans who for their own power, prestige and profit persist in playing “The Great Game” of imperialism are “Enemies” in the treasonable constitutional sense.

21. Their success to date has terminated the existence of the United States as a constitutional democracy under the rule of law. That is the only right to exist that the country claims. Or can claim, pending a duly processed constitutional amendment.

W'Lawpsh is a scholar and author of jurisprudential anthropology, constitutional history, and international human rights law. Read other articles by W'Lawpsh, or visit W'Lawpsh's website.

dissidentvoice.org/2012/0...-as-truth-legal-argument/

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-21 8:31:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-21   8:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#581. To: redleghunter (#579) (Edited)

Up until Spring 2008 the Taliban and their minions obliged NATO by getting mowed down in those eastern valleys. Then they found out we no longer had the will to fight on the home front, and changed their strategy.

On carpet bombing, you are correct. However, the USAF and USN have dropped a lot of bombs and killed a bunch of Taliban in those eastern valleys for quite a long time.

Yes. Thank you. Intelligent comments.

The purpose of every guerrilla war to sap the will of the Core to continue the fight.

4th Gen warfare moving to 5th gen...the essence of which is to do more damage with fewer men and resources.

Again, the Afghans are showing zero weakness while the CoreStateMedia is reduced to not even mentioning the Tet Offensive in Kabul.

Even here at LF you're hard pressed to find developments.

We don't know what we're fighting for. And we're insolvent. Neither of those is a problem for the Taliban.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-21   8:37:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#582. To: redleghunter (#578)

BTW, I love raccoons. Them and feral hogs will take over after humans are gone....;}

And glad you're from Texas. I love messin' with Texicans....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-21   8:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#583. To: A K A Stone (#0)

April 21, 2012

A new bill moving quickly through the House Armed Services Committee is set to add another $680 million to the billions in annual military aid the US government provides to Israel, with the funding earmarked for paying for more of the "Iron Dome" defensive missiles.

From our gridlocked Congress....;}

Meanwhile, in Flyover Country:

The more wealth concentrates, their research shows, the feebler a society's investments in infrastructure become. Our nation's long-term decline in federal infrastructure investment — from 3.3 percent of GDP in 1968 to 1.3 percent in 2011 — turns out to mirror almost exactly the long-term shift in income from America's middle class to the richest Americans. And the U.S. states where the rich have gained the most at the expense of the middle class turn out to be the states that invest the least in infrastructure.-billhicksisdead

" So why did Americans so docilely agree to give away the store? Because even though they may want their government services, they don't want to pay for them and hate paying taxes even more. That is the very essence of Spoiled Rotten Nation. Me first and fuck the rest of you...until one day the whole stinking system collapses under the strain, as our deteriorating infrastructure will no doubt eventually do. But it's those last two sentences of the article that really made me laugh. This November, tens of millions of delusional idiots are going to go to the polls and cast their vote for rich, Wall Street asshole Willard Mitt Romney, who will essentially be promising to do what every President since Reagan has done. And tens of millions of other delusional idiots will go to the polls and cast their ballots for President Hopey-Changey, who will blow smoke up their asses like he already has for four grueling years, until he gets reelected and then proceeds to continue doing what every President since Reagan has done. Either way, the infrastructure will remain right where it is today: fucked.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-22   7:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#584. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

#4. To: Robin (#3)

I don't think China is headed for economic collapse, but a slow-down, perhaps. People across the internet keep saying this.

With absolute confidence in the numbers both the USSA and China are putting out.

Where the rule of law has been thrown out the window in every attempt to keep this fetid carcass of 'globalization' going.

China is collapsing as I type. Maybe ten days. Maybe ten weeks, but China has destroyed everything environmental in it's nation.

Without the ecology, you have no civilization.

Not to mention oil is something the Bottom 65% of Chinese never see except in their water supply.

Finally, a loan in China is booked as profit. They invented 'accounting'...;}

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-22 7:35:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#5. To: All (#4) China is ahead in one critical area:

Global Pollution and Prevention News: China carbon emissions ... www.enn.com › PollutionApr 29, 2011 – /pollution/article/42639. China, the world's biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, could peak in emissions by 2030 or earlier, says a study from ...

bullshite, China's blown the world's last bubble.

Peak Pollution.

And with Peak Pollution, history really won't be able to record it completely, because the Pop will be busy collapsing.

But before the Pop collapses, the economy will have collapsed.

Look at any vid of China today. Like the one at Qingdao, showing China's ongoing war games. The sky is brown,

China is collapsing now.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-22 9:10:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

#6. To: All (#5) World Cement Production for instance:

1.bp.blogspot.com/- KU4qjniDgMk/T4114WXA87I/AAAAAAAAEO8/rWEMD0eE3oI/s400/cementMTons.jpg

It is impressive that the curve shows no sign of abating whatsoever. Maybe there will be a peak in the coming years, but cement is a form of "persistent pollution." Reducing its production - or even stopping it - won't automatically return built environment to fertile soil. But we can't eat concrete. Will we ever get our land back?

You can bet China's tops there.

The above chart has gone parabolic. There's zero way now that it will do anything but collapse . Parabolic Curves do not linger at asymptote.

mcgowanjm posted on 2012-04-22 9:17:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-22   9:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#585. To: All (#584)

It is counter-intuitive but, when exploiting a non renewable resource, becoming more efficient is not a good idea. ....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-22   9:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#586. To: mcgowanjm (#581)

Again, the Afghans are showing zero weakness while the CoreStateMedia is reduced to not even mentioning the Tet Offensive in Kabul.

I see how you are using a historical example---Tet--to explain what is going on now in Kabul. But Tet was crafted by a central government and had the backing of a standing army. Both of which the Taliban really don't have if you exclude Pakistan. As you mention, however, the intent is the same but not as large a scale as Tet.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-23   17:02:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#587. To: mcgowanjm (#582)

And glad you're from Texas. I love messin' with Texicans....;}

Well a naturalized Texan, not native born. Military service putting me in Texas for the majority of my 20+ years. Once you get used to the very hot summers where it is 95 degrees in the shade, the place grows on "ya." I am even accepted with my NOREASTER accent:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-23   17:31:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#588. To: redleghunter (#587)

You'll love this map:

www.forbes.com/sites/jonb.../16/migration-in-america/

I think Bexar County has the greatest influx from US 'migrants'.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-23   19:40:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#589. To: redleghunter (#587)

Well a naturalized Texan, not native born. Military service putting me in Texas for the majority of my 20+ years.

Wayne Co Miichigan would be the opposite of Bexar Co Texas:

www.forbes.com/special-report/2011/migration.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-23   19:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#590. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Press Action ::: Gas Industry Gives Obama High Marks for Plan to ... www.pressaction.com/news/...ll.../obamaorder05162012/

Monday, April 16, 2012. Gas Industry Gives Obama High Marks for Plan to Streamline Fracking Regulations. By Press Action. When the oil and gas industry ...

the entire fracking industry appears to be in trouble

# # Press Action ::: Gas Industry Gives Obama High Marks for Plan to ... www.pressaction.com/news/...ll.../obamaorder05162012/ You +1'd this publicly. Undo Monday, April 16, 2012. Gas Industry Gives Obama High Marks for Plan to Streamline Fracking Regulations. By Press Action. When the oil and gas industry ...

finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CHK

Chesapeake will go under before gas rises.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   8:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#591. To: All (#590)

Just the same way we forgot about Fukushima as quickly as we could to let President Obama start ushering in a “nuclear renaissance.”

But even worse, that we’ve forgotten the Deepwater Horizon shows that Americans are dumber than spit when it comes to one of the most important issues to our current prosperity and our future survival as a civilization and perhaps, a species.

Energy.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   8:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#592. To: All (#591)

Specifically, oil depletion since peak oil hit in 2006. There’s no reason that BP would’ve been drilling more than a mile under the ocean’s surface if there was any easy-to-find oil left. Fact is, the days of handy on-shore gushers are gone. Now, it’s all about deep water oil, Arctic oil, tar sands, oil shale, oil from fracking and other “unconventional” sources of crude. How much you spend for how much you get

The returns on that kind of oil are nothing like back in the day, when crude from West Texas could give a hundred barrels for every barrel of oil you’d have to spend on drilling or one barrel of oil would give you 30 barrels of Saudi crude. In our era of what Naomi Klein has dubbed “extreme energy,” oil can deliver energy returns as low as 10:1 or below.

transitionvoice.com/2012/04/deepwater-what/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   8:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#593. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#7. To: Skip Intro (#4)

Recall the joke evoked by Freud in order to render the strange logic of dreams: (1) I never borrowed a kettle from you; (2) I returned it to you unbroken; (3) the kettle was already broken when I got it from you.

Such an enumeration of inconsistent arguments confirms what it hopes to deny-that I returned to you a broken kettle.

Doesn't the same inconsistency characterize the way radical Islamists respond to the Holocaust? (1) The Holocaust did not happen. (2) It did happen, but the Jews deserved it. (3) The Jews did not deserve it, but they themselves lost the right to complain by doing to Palestinians what the Nazis did to them.

These conflicting positions are reflected in the views of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who recently questioned the historical reality of the Holocaust while implying that guilt for complicity in the Nazi genocide had led European countries to support Israel:

Some European countries insist on saying that Hitler killed millions of innocent Jews in furnaces, and they insist on it to the extent that if anyone proves something contrary to that, they condemn that person and throw them in jail. ... Although we don't accept this claim, if we suppose it is true, our question for the Europeans is: Is the killing of innocent Jewish people by Hitler the reason for their support to the occupiers of Jerusalem? ...

If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe, like in Germany, Austria or other countries, to the Zionists, and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe. You offer part of Europe, and we will support it.

This statement mixes the most disgusting insinuations with a correct insight. The disgusting part is, of course, Holocaust denial or, even more disgusting, the claim that Jews deserved it ("we don't accept this claim": Which one? That Hitler killed million of Jews or that the Jews were innocent and did not deserve to be killed?).

What is correct, though, is the reminder of European hypocrisy: Europe effectively paid for its own guilt with another people's land. So when Ariel Sharon's spokesman Raanan Gissin said in response, "Just to remind Mr. Ahmadinejad, we've been here long before his ancestors were here. Therefore, we have a birthright to be here in the land of our forefathers and to live here," he evoked a historical right, which, if applied universally, would lead to wholesale slaughter.

That is to say, can one imagine a world in which ethnic groups would constantly "remind" their neighbors that "we've been here before you" (even if this means more than a thousand years ago), and use this fact to justify seizing their neighbor's land?

The big mystery apropos of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is: Why does it persist for so long when everybody knows the only viable solution?-the withdrawal of the Israelis from the West Bank and Gaza, the establishment of a Palestinian state, as well as some kind of a compromise concerning Jerusalem. There is effectively something of a neurotic symptom in the Middle East conflict-everyone sees the way to get rid of the obstacle, and yet, nonetheless, no one wants to remove it, as if there is some kind of pathological libidinal profit gained by persisting in the deadlock.

This is why the Middle East crisis is such a sensitive point for the pragmatic politics that aims to gradually resolve problems in a realistic mode. In this case, the true utopia is precisely that such a "realistic" approach will never work: The only "realistic" solution is the "big" one, to solve the problem at its roots. Here, then, the old motto from 1968 applies: Soyons réalistes, demandons l'impossible! Only a radical gesture that has to appear "impossible" within the existing coordinates will realistically do the job. So, perhaps, the solution "everybody knows" as the only viable one-the withdrawal of the Israelis, the establishment of a Palestinian state, etc.-nonetheless will not do, and one has to change the entire frame and propose a one-state-solution where everyone has equal rights."

Zlavoj Zizeck

www.egs.edu/faculty/slavo...itics-are-doomed-to-fail/

mcgowanjm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   9:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#594. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Post Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:41 am by mcgowanjm The most censored story of the Century.

How many nukes have Melted Down & Thru:

Dai-Ni has:

2F [Daini] is that contaminated.

There are 4 reactors in 2F [Daini] and all of them stopped. Coolant system is properly working and the temperature is stable, but it’s only reactor 4 to have been recovered. Collecting comments of subcontract companies, I asked about the contamination situation to Tepco workers. They turned to be helpless.

“Yes, true.. I wonder why it’s so contaminated. The operation floor on the top and concrete shielding plug are unbelievably contaminated. Water is even in pedestal (= The room under pressure vissel [sic]).”

A retired employee of an electric company said, “If water is in pedestal, it means pressure vessel had excessive pressure. Control rod or pipes are severely damaged. The bottom of the reactor is broken through. Like Fukushima Dai ichi, it is rational to think there was a hydrogen explosion.”

Toshiba planned to enter reactor 3 it the end of December, but they didn’t.

enenews.com/book-by-fukushima-wo ... -explosion

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-24   11:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#595. To: mcgowanjm (#594)

I saw Arkansas took another former Louisville football coach, John L. Smith. He's pretty good and a bit zany but not as good as Petrino IMO.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-24   11:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#596. To: Fred Mertz (#595)

The happiest day in the Michigan State football program was when John L. left.

Nice and decent fellow but lousy coach while at MSU.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-04-24   12:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#597. To: Brian S (#596)

I really didn't pay attention to John L. after he departed but your comments stir up some vague memories of his time at MSU. With such a common name it's easy to remember his with the unique middle initial added.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-24   13:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#598. To: A K A Stone (#0)

February 2012 Case-Shiller Home Price Decline Less Badly Posted on 24 April 2012 by Steven Hansen

That's the English language being tortured above.

If I wrote that title, my prof would send the essay back....;}

I clicked on the article to see if the author was genuine...he was....8D

Real Title:

Case/Shiller Housing Index Worst Ever Reading. Back to 1985 pricing.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   8:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#599. To: All (#598)

Here is the Atlantic Wire with the story:

A new study says that for the first time since the Great Depression, there may be fewer Mexican immigrants coming into the United States than there are moving from the United States back to Mexico. According to the Pew Research Center, the net migration between the U.S. and Mexico over the last five years was essentially zero, and the downward trend suggests that flow of both legal and illegal immigrants may have actually reversed back toward Mexico

There have also been big increases in enforcement, deportations, and border security, although the report also says that arrests of illegal immigrants trying to cross the border has actually plummeted by nearly 75%. Whether that's because fewer people want to come here or they just don't think it's worth the risk is hard to pin down, but the number of folks willing to take the chance is definitely declining..billhicksisdead

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   9:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#600. To: All (#599)

There are 240 million voting age Americans. About 130 million will likely vote in the 2012 election based upon recent voter participation results. This means that 110 million Americans don’t give a crap about who runs this country or they’ve come to their senses and realize our votes don’t matter.

Between 1840 and 1900 voter participation ranged between 70% and 82% as Americans took their civic duty seriously and believed their vote counted. Since 1913, when the politicians relinquished control of our currency to a private bank controlled by a small group of powerful men, voter participation for President has ranged between 49% and 62%.

It hasn’t surpassed 57% since 1968.

www.theburningplatform.com/?p=32878

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   9:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#601. To: All (#600)

" So the USA seems to be pottering on in its own way with the lobbyists and Wall Street fixing it with the President to ignore a Congress which they have bought anyway whilst a Presidential election is going on.

But all is not well there and the stresses are beginning to show. Whilst the Empires of Europe have long crumbled into corrupt foreign adventurism the USA could well be soon at the point when the policy engine of Manifest Destiny, central to its thinking since 1823 goes into reverse.

My Edit: Great 1820 Map of North America....;}

thecynicaltendency.blogsp...-of-manifest-destiny.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   9:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#602. To: All (#600)

"Neither party wants the American people to understand the truth about what happened to our economy and jobs over the last 100 years. It has been a bipartisan screw job and ignoring the facts doesn’t change them.

The first fact that can’t be ignored is how many Americans are actually unemployed today. Here is some truth you won’t get from a politician or media talking head:

* There are 243 million working age Americans.

* There are 142 million employed Americans.

* Only 101 million of the employed Americans are working more than 35 hours per week. This means that only 41.6% of all working age Americans have a full-time job.

* According to the government drones at the BLS, 88 million Americans have “chosen” to not be in the labor force – the highest level in U.S. history.

* The percentage of Americans in the workforce at 63.8% is the lowest since 1980 and down from a peak of 67.1% in 2000. The difference between these two percentages is 8 million Americans.

* The BLS reports there are only 12.7 million unemployed Americans in the country, down from 15.3 million in 2009.

* The BLS reports the unemployment rate has dropped from 10% in late 2009 to 8.3% today. Over this time frame the working age population grew by 5.7 million, while the number of employed Americans grew by 3.6 million. Only a government drone could interpret this data and report a dramatic decline in the unemployment rate.

www.theburningplatform.com/?p=32878

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   9:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#603. To: All (#602)

Britain's economy has fallen into its second recession since the financial crisis after an shock contraction at the start of 2012, heaping pressure on Prime Minister David Cameron's government as it reels from a series of political missteps."

Translation:

Since Britain never left Recession 2007, it's now in a Depression.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   9:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#604. To: All (#603)

And you wouldn't know over here in the USSA that Murdoch's career is over.

"Britain's Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition has seen its support crumble after weeks of criticism over unpopular tax measures in last month's budget, and is under further pressure from revelations about its close links with media tycoon Rupert Murdoch.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   9:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#605. To: All (#604)

This data is so twisted that there is absolutely no doubt the Federal Government is purposely manipulating the numbers to make the economic situation appear better than the reality.

During the Great Depression propaganda and spin had not been perfected. There weren’t multiple definitions of unemployment designed to confuse and mislead the public. The peak level of unemployment in the 1930s was 25%. The current reported level is 8.3%.

On a comparable basis to the 1930s, including short-term discouraged workers, those forced to work part-time, and the long-term discouraged workers which were defined out of existence in 1994 by the BLS, the real unemployment rate is 22% today. It feels like a depression for millions of Americans because it is a depression.

www.theburningplatform.com/?p=32878

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   10:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#606. To: All (#605) (Edited)

Less than 1/2 of 2012 college grads will get jobs.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   11:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#607. To: Fred Mertz (#595)

I saw Arkansas took another former Louisville football coach

You're not the first to notice that...;}

'A bit zany' has definitley made the rounds...;}

AD Long had a choice:

1) Spend Big on a coach who would bring in his own people.

2) Keep the Top 5 program on track thru 2012.

As long as he has good 'time out' skills.

And the Flagship has a butt load of money (Petrino left $20 million on the table) and the entire Razorback (WalMart/Tyson/Donrey) foundation is on board.

We'll be there at Bowl time....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   12:09:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#608. To: Brian S (#596) (Edited)

Nice and decent fellow but lousy coach while at MSU.

Heard that as well.

It's why JLS has 'interim' in his title.

He loses to LSU/Bama/ and 2 others and we'll be satisfied.

If he beats either and only loses 2, well, that's the cut off.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   12:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#609. To: Fred Mertz (#597)

I really didn't pay attention to John L. after he departed but your comments stir up some vague memories of his time at MSU.

The take away for me is that MSU thought he was qualified to begin with....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   12:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#610. To: mcgowanjm (#607)

We'll be there at Bowl time....;}

I hope so and good luck next season.

Better luck on picking a Kentucky Derby winner this year. The exotic bet payouts will be sky high. I hope lady luck smiles upon me this year.

I shouldn't say this but Petrino's girlfriend's choppers could rival some Derby starters this year;^)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-25   12:16:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#611. To: A K A Stone (#0)

When Newscorp’s lobbyist Frederic Michel referred to Hunt’s tip-off about progress as ‘illegal actually!’ James Murdoch told Leveson Counsel Robert Jay, “Look, I don’t understand the niceties of Westminster…it was obviously just a joke”. But there is no greater sick joke in 2012 than the way these profoundly disgusting people – Murdoch, Michel, Hunt, Cameron – expect us to believe such obvious rubbish.

We should not see these soon-to-be cadavers cavorting about on the scaffold as in any way unrelated to the social, fiscal, financial, and economic problems of the West in general and Europe in particular. They are all part of the same decadent, obscenely degenerate Undead running the affairs of our unfortunate planet Earth:

Blankfein, Lagarde, Sarkozy, Draghi, Merkel, Geithner, Putin, Swan, Gillard, Mandelson, van Rompuy, Diamond and a few thousand others determined to do for us – we know not why. But until they are all a distant, nigthmarish memory, we will never have charge of our own destinies again.

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-25   22:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#612. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The mass media exist to control the masses by shaping our perceptions of reality. The pap they feed us switches off our brains, so we can’t analyze society as a system. Instead of thought, we are offered a dazzling array of personal emotions and sensory stimulation to distract us from the bleak reality of our lives.

Through entertainment and news the media fixates us on physical violence, so we don’t perceive the structural violence that causes it. We get lurid, fear-arousing accounts of violence committed by ghetto youths and Muslim guerrillas accompanied with commentaries calling for tough measures to combat these vicious berserkers. We get no accounts of the structural violence of poverty and oppression that capitalism and imperialism have created there. It’s this built-in structural violence that generates the physical violence."

dissidentvoice.org/2012/0...days-of-the-lilliputians/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   7:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#613. To: All (#612)

Greece goes from 10% of it's GDP on war,

to

2.2% per France/German war spending

and Greece has no default/insolvency problem.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   7:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#614. To: Fred Mertz (#610)

I shouldn't say this but Petrino's girlfriend's choppers could rival some Derby starters this year;^)

Volleyball women are sleek thoroughbreds.

They're legs are to die for....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   7:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#615. To: All (#614)

European Confidence Tumbles To November 2009 Levels, Euro-Wide Double Dip Inevitable Tyler Durden's picture Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/26/2012 05:52 -0400

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   8:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#616. To: All (#615)

Note how the Markets began celebrating the Greater Depression.

These and other 'Depression' articles come out just as the Markets go Zombie, where they are to this day.

#

# Simon Johnson:Is Europe on the Verge of a Depression, or a Great ... economix.blogs.nytimes.co...ge-of-a-depressi...Cached

Nov 10, 2011 – If European leaders cannot agree on how to stabilize their financial system, chaos and inflation seem sure to follow, an economist writes.

Europe crisis hit with 'deep depression' warning; every EU nation's ... economictimes.indiatimes.com › Budget 2012 › NewsCached

Nov 29, 2011 – According to OECD, crisis was now just one step away from plunging advanced economies into an abyss of recession & trigger waves of ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   9:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#617. To: A K A Stone (#0)

87 comments to State officials shut down shrimping in Gulf amid scientists finding deformities and ‘horrifying creatures’ — Media attributes closure to lesions, then retracts

* charlie3 April 26, 2012 at 10:14 am Log in to Reply

There was a time when the Gulf was like some picture of paradise, and immensely full of healthy sea and bird life. There was nothing better than a swim on the beach there. I can't believe how ugly we have made this planet over the course of my lifetime.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   21:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#618. To: All (#617)

Someone just lost a fortune in the Mad Cow industry....;}

finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=LC&cot=057642&p=m5

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-26   21:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#619. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"Lower-than-expected health care use has helped insurers in the past several quarters, and it factored into the 73 percent earnings gain Aetna reported in February for last year's fourth quarter. But Aetna and other insurers have said they expect use to return to more normal levels this year, which means they pay more claims, as consumers who were pinched during the recession start to feel more comfortable about their finances.....8D

"as consumers who were pinched during the recession start to feel more comfortable about their finances.....and realize they'll never get better...

FIFY....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   8:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#620. To: All (#619)

Procter & Gamble Co. (PG) -NYSE

66.87 Apr 26, 4:01PM EDT|Pre-Market: 65.00 Down 1.87 (2.80%) 7:59AM EDT - Nasdaq Real Time Price

"The maker of Tide detergent and Olay skin cream says net income fell 16 percent to $2.41 billion, or 82 cents per share. That compares with $2.87 billion, or 96 cents per share last year.

Consumer product companies have been raising prices to deal with higher costs for materials like fuel and packaging.

Consumers unfazed by 'raising prices' because they feel better about the economy. And can print money and borrow all they need just like the banksters....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   8:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#621. To: All (#620)

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. said Friday its net income fell by 45 percent in the first quarter as European sales plummeted and the company paid higher taxes.

The company announced it will try to cut its pension costs by offering lump-sum payments to about 90,000 U.S. white-collar retirees and former employees. Ford said it is the largest such offer in U.S. history. Payouts will start later this year and come from pension plan assets. Ford doesn't yet know how much the plan will cost....

but that doesn't matter because F can print money and borrow just like the banksters.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   8:06:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#622. To: mcgowanjm (#621)

but that doesn't matter because F can print money and borrow just like the banksters.....;}

You're cracking me up this morning. Thanks!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-04-27   8:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#623. To: All (#621)

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. said Friday its net income fell by 45 percent in the first quarter as European sales plummeted and the company paid higher taxes

U.S. stock futures rose, indicating the Standard and Poor’s 500 Index will cap the biggest weekly rally in a month, amid better-than-estimated results at companies including Amazon (AMZN).com Inc. and Ford Motor Co. (F) .....

LMFAO

# Amazon Surges After Hours On After-Tax Accounting ... - Zero Hedge www.zerohedge.com/.../ama...hours-after-tax-account... You +1'd this publicly. Undo 15 hours ago – Either the algos are getting really stupid, or nobody cares at all about the quality of earnings any more. Case in point - Amazon, which was ...

Amazon Slides After Missing Revenues Expectations ... - Zero Hedge www.zerohedge.com/.../ama...-revenues-expect...Cached

Jan 31, 2012 – Amazon slides 10% after hours as it reports much weaker revenues of $17.43 billion on expectations of $18.26 billion. EPS are not really ...

Cost Cutting is CorpsSpeak for taking employees out back and shooting them.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   8:40:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#624. To: Fred Mertz (#622)

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   8:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#625. To: All (#624)

In a move to further ease and relax the consumer, the Markets have jointly confirmed that the color 'Red' will no longer be used for it's indicators.

'Black' and/or 'Green' are all we really need. 'Red' is superfluous. And thus un necessary....;}

Eurozone Retail Sales Plunge at Strongest Pace Since Late-2008; German Retail Sales Plunge Into Contraction; French Retail Sales Plunge at Record Pace; Record Job Losses, Record Retail Plunge in Italy

The word of the day is plunge. Retail sales fell like a rock in Germany and fell at a record pace in France. -Mish

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   9:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#626. To: All (#625)

Again Mish. This time about Greece taking money from accounts of suspected tax cheats....trials later....in other words, all accounts are criminal until proven otherwise...;}

"Anyone with any common sense has already pulled all of their money out of Greek banks. However, the unthinking masses probably have not. This move will without a doubt cause more than a few to worry about accusations, true or false, and in the case of the latter, the illegal confiscation of money.

Expect to see a further plunge in money kept at Greek banks. Also expect capital flight of another kind: human capital. With this kind of crackdown, anyone capable of leaving would be wise to leave Greece immediately."

" With this kind of crackdown, anyone capable of leaving would be wise to leave Greece immediately."

Back around 1935, the same warnings were given in Germany. On the Titanic, the first life boats left 1/2 empty.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   9:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#627. To: All (#626) (Edited)

Triple digits scorch old high : San Angelo Standard Times www.gosanangelo.com/news/...pril-24-record/?...Cached

1 day ago – The normal high temperature for April 25 is 83 degrees. ... In 1925, San Angelo recorded 107 degrees on April 19, the highest ... And, yes, that will set another hot weather record (the old high for April 26 is 99, set in 1943).

RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN ANGELO TX 606 PM CDT THU APR 26 2012

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT SAN ANGELO... ...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE TIED AT ABILENE... ...RECORD HIGH MINIMUM TEMPERATURE SET AT SAN ANGELO AND ABILENE...

A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 105 DEGREES WAS SET AT SAN ANGELO TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 99 DEGREES SET IN 1943.

THE RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 96 DEGREES WAS TIED AT ABILENE TODAY. THIS TIED THE OLD RECORD OF 96 DEGREES SET IN 1984.

THE LOW TEMPERATURE OF 74 DEGREES BROKE THE OLD RECORD HIGH MINIMUM AT ABILENE OF 70 DEGREES SET IN 2009.

THE LOW TEMPERATURE OF 73 DEGREES BROKE THE OLD RECORD HIGH MINIMUM AT SAN ANGELO OF 72 DEGREES SET IN 1963.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-27   9:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#628. To: mcgowanjm (#627)

RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN ANGELO TX 606 PM CDT THU APR 26 2012

...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT SAN ANGELO... ...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE TIED AT ABILENE... ...RECORD HIGH MINIMUM TEMPERATURE SET AT SAN ANGELO AND ABILENE...

Yes, quite warm yesterday at baseball practice, but it does get warm this time of year in Texas. By late May we no longer get "cool fronts" in Central TX.

Are you a global warming type?

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-27   11:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#629. To: redleghunter (#628)

but it does get warm this time of year in Texas. By late May we no longer get "cool fronts" in Central TX.

No need to explain Texas to me.

I was born there....;}

Texas and me have a history. And we get your weather about a month later in Arkansas.

And, yes, it gets warm in Texas in April. But not 100 degrees warm.

83's average. Get ready for an ABC Hurricane to break the drought in August.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   9:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#630. To: All (#629)

Texas is losing trees.

Lots.

Ozone.

"And then to top it off, the "man who loves trees" almost as much as he loves himself had yet another stupid anthropocentric article in the HuffPo, to which I commented after this quote from him:

"They sweep air pollution out of the air in our cities and suburbs and clean water through their complex root system."

That's great, Jim Robbins. What happens to those trees that are absorbing our pollution through their leaves and roots? Ozone gives people cancer and other fatal diseases. It does even much worse things to trees. It rots their roots making them more vulnerable to drought and wind, and rots their interiors making branches break. Ozone and acid rain make them lose their natural resistance to insects, disease and fungus. Pollution lowers their production of nuts, seeds, and fruits so they can't reproduce. If you really care about trees so much, why not talk about that?

He of course blames warmer winters for bark beetles: "They are dying all around us in the American West. I came to realize what climate change can do to trees when bark beetles, their season lengthened by unusually warm winters, attacked trees on my 15 acres of pine forest in Montana," conveniently ignoring the fact that the first ever proven case of trees dying from bark beetle infestation, thanks to a compromised immunity from exposure to ozone, was from back in the 1950's in the extraordinarily polluted hills above Los Angeles, where it NEVER approaches extended winter freeze.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   9:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#631. To: All (#630)

And one more thing the Bottom 90% don't get.

"#

#

Mike on Sat, 28th Apr 2012 6:43 am

We seem to have an obsession with “breaking points”. A while back many were claiming $100/barrel was the ugly horizon. We’ve been there a while.

I think we will continue to see roughly linear effect as prices rise (as they have been). Slow economy becomes more sluggish. We have seen demand fall off in developed countries WITHOUT the usual drop in prices. Other demand (Chindia) is stepping in to fill the gap.

I don’t know what the breaking point is, but the broke point is back under $2.00 a gallon with few buyers…because the economy has failed in a big way."

"I think we will continue to see roughly linear effect..."

Quantum Science replaces Newtonian Law. Once you've gone parabolic, you don't reach asymptote and then level out.

As you drop off the other side, as 'Mike on Sat' alludes to, your 'waste' catches up with you. You hit the 'fat tail' and begin Non Linear 'breaks'.

On the way down to baseline.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   9:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#632. To: All (#631)

We seem to have an obsession with “breaking points”.

And I don't see hardly anyone obsessing over

'break points' which is another term for Non Linear.

Anyone who does is relegated to LaLa padded cells...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-28   9:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#633. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Bottom is in on Housing, the Recovery is here with the Economy,

so

go borrow some (more) money from your parents

and

start a business.....no source.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-29   7:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#634. To: A K A Stone, harrowup, wethepeople, All (#0)

#87. To: mcgowanjm (#81)

Great thread. I'm posting it to mcgowanjm wire.

Don't forget to source me as the reason it is great.

I'll trust you to comply since I don't read your wire or Brad's whatever.

Had enough trouble with Brad's Gramma already.

By the way, does anyone remember the time someone asked 'Brad' what was the scariest thing he ever heard? He said it's when "Gramma says Aunt Bee is Coming for the weekend.

Note to lurkers...that is bait so huge it might as well be C-4.

NOW, I must go to lunch.

harrowup posted on 2012-04-28

Consider yourself sourced, Hup....;}

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...?ArtNum=29746&Disp=89#C89

"I'll trust you to comply since I don't read your wire or Brad's whatever." What a hoot....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-29   7:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#635. To: All (#634) (Edited)

The arrest has prompted the worst diplomatic row between the two regional powerhouses since Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries broke off diplomatic ties with Egypt after it signed a peace deal with Israel in 1979. Diplomatic relations were restored in 1987.

Saudi Arabia said on Saturday it had recalled its ambassador from Egypt for "consultation" and would close its embassy and consulates in the Arab nation.

And 1987's 'reconciliation' is based on the Asymptote of USSA power....the price of gasoline...$.65 cents in Ft Worth....;}

www.randomuseless.info/gasprice/gasprice.png

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-29   7:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#636. To: All (#635)

The employees union for the workers at Orion Bus in Oriskany says that all 538 workers will be laid off sometime in the next two years, and that the layoffs are only a matter of when.

Tim Banas at the United Auto Workers Union said that at least 12 employees at Orion were laid off Thursday morning and that the company expects to lay off more in the days to come.

On Wednesday, Daimler announce that it would stop all production on new bus orders at the Oriskany-based company, but would continue bus maintenance work. This is why I am so convinced we are heading towards collapse. For years now we have been making all the wrong decisions at the worst possible time, and I see no reason why that will not continue.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-29   7:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#637. To: All (#636)

Housing Crash Porn: One Million More Suckers Now Underwater

billhicksisdead.blogspot....sh-porn-one-million-mor...

We have arrived at the point where all of the biggest frauds preying upon working and middle class families are now a combined effort of the banks, big corporations and the federal government. Mortgages and student loans are just two of the largest such swindles--and they very much tie in together since those who have been saddled with large amounts of the latter can hardly afford to take out one of the former, even at these insanely low interest rates.

How any impartial observer can look at what is happening in these sectors as not realize that a huge crackup is coming is beyond my puny powers of comprehension.

Interest rates cannot fall much farther, and when they do finally start to rise, they are going to kill what little does remain of the housing market. Anyone inclined to believe the latest call from just this past week that "the bottom is in" and is planning to buy a house is a sheep not only about the be sheared but eventually slaughtered.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-29   9:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#638. To: mcgowanjm (#637)

How about those Texas Rangers!

Lewis sets tone as Rangers end Rays' run By Dave Sessions / Special to MLB.com | 4/29/2012 12:50 AM ET

ARLINGTON -- Colby Lewis gave up an early home run and walked three times as many batters as he had in the previous four games combined, but there was no reason for the Rangers right-hander to panic in a 7-2 victory over the Rays on Saturday.

That's partly because Lewis had only walked one batter all season entering the night, having faced 104 consecutive batters over 25 2/3 innings without issuing a free pass. But the simplest reason for Lewis' fortitude is that he knew he was pitching with the Rangers' electric defense behind him and their explosive offense in support of him.

Lewis was unimpressed with his own performance, but raved about the play of his team.

"I felt like I didn't really have a whole lot," Lewis said. "I felt like I kind of battled at times. But overall, it worked out."

It always seems to work out for the Rangers. After Saturday's win, Texas leads the Major Leagues in hitting (.297) and is second in fielding (.989). Lewis was the beneficiary of quintessential examples of both: a two-run single by Josh Hamilton that gave the Rangers the lead for good in the first inning; a gorgeous glove-flip to second base by Elvis Andrus that enabled a crucial sixth- inning double play; and an Adrian Beltre three-run homer that punished Tampa Bay for intentionally walking Hamilton in the seventh.

Andrus' play, with nobody out and a man on first as the Rays threatened the Rangers' 3-1 lead in the seventh, was certainly the game's most dazzling. In a play similar to his World Series Game 6 highlight from last postseason, Andrus showed his range by getting to a ball far to his left, then showed his innate sense of where second base is -- and his flair for the dramatic -- by flipping the ball with his glove to waiting second baseman Michael Young.

Young turned two and said after the game that he considers such theatrics by Andrus to be "routine plays" by now.

"If I get to the bag," Young said, "I know it's going to be on its way."

While Tampa Bay made two costly errors that led to runs, the Rangers ran down faraway fly balls and dug out tough grounders.

"We can play defense," manager Ron Washington said. "It's something that we respect -- something that we take pride in.

"I'm not surprised by anything they do out there. You put it in the air, if you got a hump in it, it's coming down in the glove. You put it on the ground, if they can get to it, it's going to be thrown to the first baseman."

Lewis pushed his record to 3-0 and lowered his ERA to 1.93, further solidifying his reputation as the Rangers' most unflappable starter thus far in 2012.

Lewis has allowed homers in four of his five starts, including Matt Joyce's shot to start the second inning on Saturday, but Lewis has yet to allow more than one homer.

Lewis threw 96 pitches on Saturday, but only 56 strikes. Yet, the control issues didn't rattle the right-hander, who turned in six solid innings and benefited from ample run support.

The Rangers broke the game open at 7-1 when Rays manager Joe Maddon elected to walk Hamilton to face Beltre, who hit a three-run home run, his fourth of 2012.

"You always want to hit in those situations," Beltre said. "I don't want them to walk him, I want him to get some pitches to hit, too. ... But I'm always gonna be up to the challenge. My job is trying to do a better job, so maybe they'll think a little bit harder and pitch to him."

Maddon preferred to face the right-handed hitter against right-handed pitcher Burke Badenhop, and the move backfired.

"The chances of either one of those guys putting the ball on the ground against Badenhop are about equal," Maddon said. "But Josh has just been so darn hot, let's go with the other guy, maybe get a nice ground ball somewhere and stay out of the big inning. But it didn't work out that way."

Alexi Ogando pitched a 1-2-3 seventh and Mike Adams yielded one run in the eighth before Koji Uehara worked a perfect ninth to seal the win.

Rays starter Jeff Niemann allowed five hits and walked one in falling to 1-3 this season.

Dave Sessions is a contributor to MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-29   12:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#639. To: mcgowanjm (#637)

Giant cannibal shrimp more than a FOOT long invade waters off Gulf Coast

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-04-29   16:43:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#640. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"When civilizations start to die they go insane. Let the ice sheets in the Arctic melt. Let the temperatures rise. Let the air, soil and water be poisoned. Let the forests die. Let the seas be emptied of life. Let one useless war after another be waged. Let the masses be thrust into extreme poverty and left without jobs while the elites, drunk on hedonism, accumulate vast fortunes through exploitation, speculation, fraud and theft. Reality, at the end, gets unplugged.

We live in an age when news consists of Snooki’s pregnancy, Hulk Hogan’s sex tape and Kim Kardashian’s denial that she is the naked woman cooking eggs in a photo circulating on the Internet.

-Phil Rockstruh

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:15:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#641. To: All (#640)

"The one really good thing, that I don't dispute, that you can do with a good FICO score is buy a house with a fixed-rate mortgage and get a lower interest rate that can save you a ton of money over the life of the loan," he says. "But other than that, there is really nothing you can do with a high FICO score."

In fact, he says, a good FICO score often leads to a bad FICO score, because people are able to take advantage, and often do, of unnecessary credit that ultimately leads to more debt.

One prime example is a car loan, which he says you should never take out in the first place. "The best thing people can do for their lives, in terms of happiness, is to avoid monthly payments entirely whenever possible," he says.

Forget New, Buy Used

Buying a used car these days not mean driving a vehicle with 100,000 miles and severe maintenance issues, Bissonnette says. Used cars are not only cheap but safe drive too. His suggestion is to buy a used car for just a couple thousand dollars. Not only will your bottom line not suffer from instant depreciation of the car the moment you drive it off the lot, you will also not likely need to buy collision insurance.

finance.yahoo.com/blogs/d...nnette-123953305.html?l=1

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#642. To: redleghunter (#638)

How about those Texas Rangers!

We got your Beltran...thanx....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:23:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#643. To: mcgowanjm (#641)

My F150 is approaching 200,000 miles.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-30   9:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#644. To: redleghunter (#639)

Oil Platforms/rigs are good for the Gulf.

signed Exxon

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:25:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#645. To: A K A Stone (#643)

My F150 is approaching 200,000 miles.

I've found an excellent machine shop.

Rebuilt my engine for $3800.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#646. To: mcgowanjm (#645)

Mine is still running strong. The transmission went out a little over a year ago. Took it to Brownies. They tried to rip me off. Then towed it to Craigs Transmission on Keowee Street. They did it for half the price and it runs great today.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-04-30   9:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#647. To: A K A Stone (#646)

I think trannies are Ford's achilles.

My F-150 lost it's as well.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   9:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#648. To: All (#641)

"When civilizations start to die they go insane. Let the ice sheets in the Arctic melt. Let the temperatures rise. Let the air, soil and water be poisoned. Let the forests die. Let the seas be emptied of life. Let one useless war after another be waged. Let the masses be thrust into extreme poverty and left without jobs while the elites, drunk on hedonism, accumulate vast fortunes through exploitation, speculation, fraud and theft. Reality, at the end, gets unplugged. We live in an age when news consists of Snooki’s pregnancy, Hulk Hogan’s sex tape and Kim Kardashian’s denial that she is the naked woman cooking eggs in a photo circulating on the Internet.-Chris Hedges

"that the mainstream media and the government officials were all bribed or intimidated by Merck’s lawyers, lobbyists, and advertising budget into averting their eyes or holding their tongues. But from 2004 onwards, huge numbers of America’s toughest trial lawyers were suing Merck for billions based on Vioxx casualties – didn’t they notice the dramatic drop in the national death rate? “

“The inescapable conclusion is that in today’s world and in the opinion of our own media, American lives are quite cheap, unlike those in China.” “Besides,” says Unz laughing, “it shows the stupidity of our political leaders that they didn’t seize upon this great opportunity. They should have just renamed Vioxx the ‘Save Social Security Drug,’ and distributed it free in very large doses to everyone, starting on their 65th birthday. Maybe they should have even made it mandatory, three times per day.

"So the CEO is the point failure mechanism where if he or she goes bad, almost everything may go bad as well. So all those things that we call internal and external controls, all report to the CEO and the CEO therefore can, as I’ll describe, use compensation, hiring, firing, praise, and such to produce the environment that will commit, create allies for his fraud. Now, note that what I’m saying.

The CEO, the art of this is not to defeat your controls. The elegant solution as in mathematics is to suborn the controls and turn them into your most valuable allies. And therefore, for example, when you’re running accounting control fraud where your weapon of fraud is accounting and that weapon of choice in finance is accounting. You’re going to want to hire the most prestigious accountants as your outside auditors because it is precisely their reputation that is most valuable when you can suborn them. -Bill Black, Control Fraud

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   10:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#649. To: All (#648)

Why does the boiling frog story apply to people if not to actual frogs? The answer is simple. Human beings are built to adapt to new conditions. Generally speaking, they don't notice gradual change, they simply get used to it. People were designed by Nature to react quickly to sudden changes. They were not designed to notice that this year, and for many years before that, conditions got a little worse than they were the year before. Humans live in an eternal present. This observation is well-known to those who study such things. It is not original with me.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   10:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#650. To: All (#649)

A second incredible advantage is the CEO can optimize the firm as a weapon of fraud. And the< CEO can do that. Basically, this falls into two big categories. One, you can put it in assets that have no readily verifiable market value because then it's a lot easier to inflate asset valuations and to hide real losses. And the second thing you do is grow like crazy. And, of course, that is the essence of something your listeners have all heard about, and that is a Ponzi scheme. And so these accounting control frauds have strong Ponzi-scheme like elements, which is why they tend to cause such catastrophic losses.

Now combine this with the F-35 program and you get the biggest fraud possible.

Each 'Flying Piano' costing $161 Million with only 20% of flight tests completed.

Well over $1 Trillion with Op costs included....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-04-30   10:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#651. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

US Not Reporting All Afghan Attacks

The Associated Press has learned that the U.S.-led military coalition in Afghanistan is under-reporting the number of times that Afghan soldiers and police open fire on American and other foreign troops.

The coalition routinely reports attacks in which a coalition soldier is killed by an Afghan in uniform. But it does not report the instances in which an Afghan wounds U.S. or NATO troops or misses his target.

Officials acknowledge the attacks are a worrisome problem for the U.S. and its military partners as they work increasingly closely with Afghan troops in preparation for handing off security responsibility.

The AP learned that just last week, two U.S. soldiers were wounded when Afghan policemen opened fire on them. The Afghans were quickly killed, and the incident was not reported by the international coalition.

Copyright 2012 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.

Limited Hang Out. Those soldiers were killed.

"While unacceptable, the military’s systematic under-reporting of these incidents is not surprising. Support for the war – which has hit all-time lows in recent weeks – depends upon favorable information getting out. If the information doesn’t reflect well on the war, it is liable to be hidden from the people. Last 5 posts by John Glaser

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#652. To: All (#651)

We just had a no-growth quarter, but it doesn't count because the BEA used a custom deflator.

And thus we are forced to conclude that life in 21st century America is like living in a hall of mirrors. Every reflection we see is distorted almost beyond recognition. After it is final, the official 1st quarter GDP number will be cited over and over again by economists everywhere. Every one of these economists will ignore the deflator distortion. Obama will use the number to tell us the economy is growing, but not fast enough to create more jobs. The hall of mirrors just goes on and on and on.

Welcome to the Fun House. Or, to borrow the title of one of Kurt Vonnegut's books, Welcome to The Monkey House.

Domestic & Foreign.....two sides of the same coin....wake up and lie.

BTW, you can turn on your tv and be the 99,000 +1 to be watching CNBC....LMFAO....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#653. To: All (#652)

MAY DAY:

Spain enters Greatest Depression. Will not be leaving.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#654. To: All (#653)

MAY DAY:

Murdoch deemed unfit to run a global company Email this post Print this post By Kiron Sarkar - May 1st, 2012, 9:30AM

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#655. To: All (#654)

On the heels of that announcement, more details have emerged and they suggest the Federal security apparatus has completely lost its marbles.

Via Off Grid Survival

The Illinois Department of Transportation is testing an emergency plan to shut off access into and out of downtown Chicago. The plan uses a network of highway security gates that are designed to shut down all traffic coming in and out of Chicago in the event of a terrorist attack.

The Illinois DOT is warning truckers that it’s best to avoid the city during the NATO Summit in Chicago May 20-21. There will be a number of driving restrictions and rolling street closures, and the Illinois DOT is testing highway barricades that will block access to all major highways in and out of Chicago.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#656. To: All (#655)

HAPPY MAY DAY CHICAGO!!!...;}

Starting May 1st, a full three weeks before the NATO Summit, the Federal Government will be setting up a Militarized Red Zone in the streets of Downtown Chicago.

In a Chicago Sun Time Article:

The head of Chicago’s NATO Host Committee said Thursday she was blindsided by the federal government’s decision to create a militarized “Red Zone” in the Loop to protect federal buildings in the run-up to the May 20-21 summit at McCormick Place.

The news of federal agents on the streets of Chicago isn’t sitting well with many. From last months urban warfare drills, to residents being warned of possible citywide evacuations, the city of Chicago is starting to look like a city that may already be under martial law.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   9:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#657. To: mcgowanjm (#651)

US Not Reporting All Afghan Attacks

The Associated Press has learned that the U.S.-led military coalition in Afghanistan is under-reporting the number of times that Afghan soldiers and police open fire on American and other foreign troops.

Yes I did see that mentioned somewhere this morning or last night.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-01   10:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#658. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Heavy fighting taking place in Zamindawar Qari Yousuf Ahmadi E-mail Print PDF Tuesday, 09 Jamadil Akhir 1433 Tuesday, 01 May 2012 14:51 HELMAND, May. 01 – Heavy fighting has been taking place in Zamindawar Sozigar area, Kajaki district since yesterday morning when Mujahideen of Islamic Emirate engaged cowardly US invaders that landed by helicopters in the area for an operation. The fighting is still ongoing today (10:00 am), more details about which will be updated later.

And that was the State's Munich Beer garden Speech Circa November 8, 1942....;}

www.reuters.com/article/2...ama-idUSBRE8401CJ20120502

"Obama's campaign has questioned whether Romney would have made the same decision to authorize the raid that killed bin Laden. On Tuesday in New York Romney said he would have made the same call and criticized Obama for making the issue political.

Politics aside, a senior U.S. official cautioned that no matter what pacts are signed, "Afghanistan is still going to be the third poorest country in the world."

"This is still going to be tough," the official said, adding that the expectation was that the Afghan government will be able to maintain basic security.

That skepticism is shared by the European Union's ambassador to Kabul, who said earlier on Tuesday that Western aid that has been poured into Afghanistan will have a limited impact as long as governance remained poor and corruption widespread.

Afghanistan's government doesn't seem to grasp the magnitude of major challenges just two years ahead of the pullout, Vygaudas Usackas told Reuters in an interview.

"The Afghans have to be in the driving seat," he said. "Probably we made them complacent."

That's All Folks....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   20:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#659. To: mcgowanjm (#658)

And that was the State's Munich Beer garden Speech Circa November 8, 1942....;}

I placed third in situps at the Cub Scout Munich Olympics back in about 78 or 79. Our team also placed really high up in the Medley relay.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-01   20:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#660. To: A K A Stone (#0)

1970-75.

we're somewhere in there now. Expect to lose our colonies now.

Markets find out we're retreating from the Afghans:

finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=ES&cot=138741,13874A&p=m5

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   21:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#661. To: A K A Stone (#659)

Cub Scout Munich Olympics back in about 78 or 79.

Expect this then. Same as 1978-79 plus 1970 -75....;}

#

# Boycott of Agricultural Products over the Afghan Invasion www.livinghistoryfarm.org...he70s/money_06.htmlCached

Carter decided to embargo or cancel the remaining Soviet grain purchases, estimated to be worth around $2.6 billion. In addition, the administration stopped the ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   21:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#662. To: A K A Stone (#657)

Yes I did see that mentioned somewhere this morning or last night.

;}

Nicely implanted by the fabulous AgitProp Limited Hang Out Dept.

Brian Williams: 'As you may have heard, the US has been.....

They're high fiving somewhere in Langley, Hollywood, and NYC.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-01   21:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#663. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Perfect:

May Day, 1971....

"Hey, it was right around the time that the loss in Vietnam was sinking in. The Establishment figured they’d take their victories any way they could, and celebrate them shamelessly.

Thanks to the brave reporting by the New York Times, Americans were shown a photograph of an enemy-saboteur at work–some scared looking fool letting the air out of someone’s car tire–to let the Silent Majority know what was at stake here:

The subsequent triumphalism was embarrassing even by American triumphalist standards. Here’s the AP reporting below what victory looked like: “As the rush hour began, traffic flowed smoothly…The demonstrators conceded police and military forces had prevailed.”

Keep this all in mind, Occupy protestors. It’s been this bad and worse before. They will go further than you can possibly imagine–and the media will lie and cover the oligarchy’s backside every step of the way. It’s a class war of attrition, so be prepared for the long haul.

exiledonline.com/recovere...c-stadium-prison-in-1971/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   7:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#664. To: All (#663) (Edited)

Fast Forward to

May Day, 2012

Obama sneaks in and out of Kabul in the darkness of night to announce the End of the Afghan Invasion.

"The billionaire elite who run this country are not stupid. During the Vietnam War and Watergate eras they saw quite clearly how dangerous to the centers of power television in particular can be when the medium is at least partly in the hands of real journalists and other people who care about objective truth. Abby Hoffman knew it, which is why he once said,

"A modern revolutionary group heads for the television station, not the factory. It concentrates its energy on infiltrating and changing the image system." That's what this relentless glorification of vacuous celebrities is all about.

Corporate America cannot risk the media focusing on serious issues like our hollowed out economy, our rapidly changing climate, the degradation of the environment and wars being fought in the name of profits, so it gives the masses glitz and spectacle to keep their minds occupied instead.

-BillHicksisdead

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   7:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#665. To: All (#664)

"This past weekend in our politics, it was look-how-far-over-to-the-dark-side-we've-crawled time.

Just as the various celebrity journalists, celebrity politicians, and celebrity celebrities were about done yucking it up at the White House Correspondents Dinner — and can I just say, for the record, that this is the biggest circle-jerk for the largest circle of jerks that there ever has been, like Guinness-level? — we had an unrepentent torturer shilling for his new book, baring his fangs on 60 Minutes and daring someone to throw him into the clink at The Hague,

and another drone strike on behalf of the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. If there is one thing that would possibly get me to vote for Buddy Roemer and/or the Hemp Party, it would be the dozens of ways, tacit and otherwise, that this administration made peace with the savagery of the previous one, and then proceeded to find ways to be savage itself that seem more capable of stroking the liberal-hawk G-spots.

We begin with Jose Rodriguez on 60 Minutes. Rodriguez once headed the CIA counter-terrorism office and was also its director of operations.

Read more: www.esquire.com/blogs/pol...ook-8484289#ixzz1tiJk9WmT

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   8:15:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#666. To: A K A Stone, All (#665)

Why Obama was in/out of Kabul between 2 & 6 AM....;}

Martyr attack targeting” Green Village” huge military Camp ends with success; more than 43 invaders killed KABUL, May 02 - The operation was planned hurriedly after finding out about Obama’s “surprise visit” to Afghanistan what was secret visit about which Mujahideen came to know in the later hours of last night and, as a result, “the Green Village” one of the most important and heavily-guarded military base of so-called ISAF, was the quickest target for Mujahideen to smash.

A team of four heroic combatants of Islamic Emirate Ahmad (Parwan province), Muhammad Raza (Kabul), Abdul Bari (Wardak) and Hameed Khan (Takhar), armed with heavy and small arms and explosives, stormed the target, the “Green Village” with Ahmad slamming his explosive-laden vehicle at the gate of the base, rocking the entire base and removing all the security checks and barriers besides flattening some of the rooms where a great number of the security guards were based.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   8:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#667. To: All (#666) (Edited)

^^^;}

The Associated Press

7 Afghans Die as Suicide Attacker Strikes in Kabul New York Times‎ - 6 hours ago

KABUL, Afghanistan — Less than two hours after President Obama left ... Residents living near to the Green Village and people within the ...

#657. To: mcgowanjm (#651)

US Not Reporting All Afghan Attacks

The Associated Press has learned that the U.S.-led military coalition in Afghanistan is under-reporting the number of times that Afghan soldiers and police open fire on American and other foreign troops.

Yes I did see that mentioned somewhere this morning or last night.

A K A Stone posted on 2012-05-01 10:52:57 ET

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   8:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#668. To: All (#667)

Taliban attack in Afghan capital kills at least 7

By AMIR SHAH, Associated Press – 4 hours ago

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Taliban insurgents attacked a compound housing foreigners in the Afghan capital Wednesday, killing seven people, hours after President Barack Obama made a surprise visit and signed a pact governing the U.S. presence after combat troops withdraw.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   8:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#669. To: All (#668)

The violence began around 6 a.m. in eastern Kabul with a series of explosions and gunfire ringing out from the privately guarded compound known as Green Village that houses hundreds of international contractors.

Shooting and blasts shook the city for hours as militants who had stormed into the compound held out against security forces, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information.

Taliban version:

"armed with heavy and small arms and explosives, stormed the target, the “Green Village” with Ahmad slamming his explosive-laden vehicle at the gate of the base, rocking the entire base and removing all the security checks and barriers besides flattening some of the rooms where a great number of the security guards were based. Several dozen of the US-NATO and puppets cowardly forces security were killed and wounded. Three out four martyrdom-seeking Mujahideen, after getting into the base, initiated fighting with rockets, heavy and light machine guns, hand grenades and explosive vests till 10 a.m. local time, targeting those inside and killing at least 34 US-Nato forces officers and soldiers as well as taking out more than 9 puppets security guards

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   8:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#670. To: All (#669)

Listen to this BS:

"Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid claimed responsibility for the attack.

"This was a message to Obama that those are not real Afghans that are signing documents about this country," Mujahid said. "The real Afghan nation are those people that are not letting foreign invaders stay in this country or disrespect the dignity of our country."

However, because such complex attacks usually take significant advance planning, it also was possible that the Taliban were capitalizing on fortunate timing. Mujahid said the target was a "foreign military base."

No one was killed except school children....please.

And ' the Taliban were capitalizing on fortunate timing.'

The Occupiers are clueless. Their Leaders are evil.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   9:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#671. To: All (#667)

I'll havde to re check but notice the implication by AP of One Attacker/One Bomb.

Al Jazeera has this:

"At least seven people have been killed in several large explosions in the Afghan capital Kabul, shortly after US President Barack Obama paid a surprise visit to the country."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   9:19:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#672. To: All (#671)

"One of our mujahideen detonated his car in front of a military base," Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told the Reuters news agency in a phone call.

"Other mujahideen are inside the base fighting. There are very heavy casualties for the enemy.

Only schoolchildren live in the Green Zone....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   9:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#673. To: All (#672)

Busy day for US Embassy:

"The US embassy in Kabul, said its embassy was "under lockdown" and warned staff to "take cover, move away from the windows".

"Duck and cover here at the embassy. Not a drill - avoid the area," the US embassy said on Twitter."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   9:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#674. To: All (#673)

Featured Project:Green Village In 2008 Stratex began the design and construction of Green Village in Kabul, Afghanistan. The intent is to provide life support to International contractors who are mobilizing and stationed in and around Kabul Afghanistan. The creation of Green Village was intended to bring western style living accommodations and standards to our clients stationed in Kabul. Within a short period of time and a booked house, contractors began to call Green Village “Pleasantville”. This secure base camp has not grown to its full potential and with owned adjoining lands, Stratex intends to set the country standard as the leading life support provider and best value. Green Village has a wide array of of anemities and offerings that we believe make it the only place to stay when you're on a job.

Green Village Anemities:

We've strived to make Green Village your home away from home. Green Village offers single/double occupancy rooms. The layouts for the rooms contain a living room, private bath and a bedroom. All rooms are accommodated with a Queen Size bed or Twin Size beds, wall lockers, a coffee table, entertainment center, television, DVD Player, Cable TV and a couch.

Every building is supplied with wireless Internet as with its offices. Green Village is SIPR NET, NIPR NET capable, via either microwave or fiber optics.

Green Village provides a 24 hour dedicated security detachment of professionally trained, former military European and Nepalese Ghurka’s. This armed security detail provides multiple gate guards, static posts, vehicle search’s, ID checks at multiple gates, roving interior patrols, Private Security Details (PSD) teams upon client requests (24 hour notice), certified drivers and language assistance.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   9:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#675. To: All (#674)

till 10 a.m. local time, targeting those inside and killing at least 34 US-Nato forces officers and soldiers as well as taking out more than 9 puppets security guards. The operation came as a response to Obama’s visit to Afghanistan and was a worst single-day loss for the US-Nato terrorists after Kabul operation in which Mujahideen had targeted the main ISAF base, and a series of embassies, parliament, presidential house and a number of the enemy’s military bases and posts in Kabul city. It is known to all that no civilian can show up even hundreds of maters away from the any military facility and, in particular, such military facility with strategic importance, no way! Thus the western-influenced mainstream media claims about civilian casualties are absolutely false and everyone knows it."

But notice that the Only casualties are school children....walking by...at 6 AM.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   9:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#676. To: All (#675)

500 Kiloton Hydrogen Bomb Goes Missing in a World of Absurdly High Tech Surveillance By CRONKITE – Wed May 2, 2012 10:38am – No Comments – 22 views

“I will keep this short as possible. A single nuclear weapon has “gone missing” as of last week, one of four missing but this one “more missing” than the others.

The Thames Valley Police, famous for their fictional representations in the Colin Dexter detective novels, detained a high ranking government security officer, department to remain unnamed, at the behest of what we are told is the Home Secretary. …”

Just in case that NATO/Chicago thing gets out of hand. Or

A Dolphin Class sub does something around MENA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-02   11:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#677. To: mcgowanjm, cz82, mininggold, lucysmom, war, ferret mike, capitalist eric (#670)

Listen to this BS:

"Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid claimed responsibility for the attack.

"This was a message to Obama that those are not real Afghans that are signing documents about this country," Mujahid said.

What is Obama doing signing a document with them for. It isn't legitimate. What is the legal affect of the President signing a document with a foreign nation. It is the Senate the makes treaties.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-05-02   23:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#678. To: mcgowanjm (#674)

So I heard a rumour that they found all of the money that Corzine and his cronies at MF Global stole.......

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot."

CZ82  posted on  2012-05-03   7:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#679. To: mcgowanjm (#656)

Starting May 1st, a full three weeks before the NATO Summit, the Federal Government will be setting up a Militarized Red Zone in the streets of Downtown Chicago.

Perhaps this is the prelude to the UN setting up its occupation government in Odingaland:)

As iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend. -Proverbs 27:17 (NKJV)

redleghunter  posted on  2012-05-03   12:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#680. To: A K A Stone (#677)

What is Obama doing signing a document with them for. It isn't legitimate. What is the legal affect of the President signing a document with a foreign nation. It is the Senate the makes treaties.

The signing is part of the process of these treaties going into effect.

Democrat Example of a treaty not going a POTUS' way: Wodrow Wilson supported the League of Nations and Congress shot him down. Signing a treaty is only a step in the process off establishing a valid treaty between us and another nation.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-05-03   14:02:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#681. To: A K A Stone (#677)

What is Obama doing signing a document with them for. It isn't legitimate. What is the legal affect of the President signing a document with a foreign nation. It is the Senate the makes treaties.

BS. It's almost always up to the administration in power to negotiate treaties. The Senate then ratifies it.

The GHW Bush administration negotiated most of the terms of NAFTA.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-05-03   14:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#682. To: A K A Stone (#0)

This is no joke. It will be enforced for May 19 to May 21.

The flight advisory was issued by the Federal Aviation Administration. The advisory bans non-commercial aircraft from flying within 10 nautical miles of downtown Chicago at altitudes below 18,000 feet.

A nautical mile is about one minute of arc of latitude along any meridian. It amounts to 1,852 meters, or about 1.15078 standard miles.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#683. To: mininggold (#681)

What is Obama doing signing a document with them for. It isn't legitimate. What is the legal affect of the President signing a document with a foreign nation. It is the Senate the makes treaties.

BS. It's almost always up to the administration in power to negotiate treaties. The Senate then ratifies it.

The GHW Bush administration negotiated most of the terms of NAFTA.

It's the signing of it in the wee hours of the morning and the Taliban's immediate response which is the tell.

When the attack started, I don't think Obama's plane had left the tarmac...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#684. To: All (#683)

In addition, the restrictions include an outer ring from 10 to 30 miles around downtown Chicago. Only planes arriving or departing at local airports will be allowed within that outer ring. Flight training, seaplanes, and other types of flights will be banned from the outer ring.

Any plane violating the flight restrictions will be intercepted.

"The United States Government may use deadly force against the airborne aircraft, if it is determined that the aircraft poses an imminent security threat," the advisory says.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#685. To: All (#684) (Edited)

He said the restrictions will essentially shut down general aviation – which refers to all flights that are not military, scheduled airline, or scheduled cargo flights.

"There will be no (general aviation) activity within those three days," Fair said.

The only aircraft allowed to fly within the restricted area include regularly-scheduled commercial passenger and cargo carriers, police, and military planes supporting the Secret Service.

The SS over rides all other.

Including NORAD.

Just like on 9/11.

Where's the SS Chicago Air Defense Office.

Look for it to be burning, if the '9/11' plan goes awry....;}

Be on the lookout for a Bush.....;} OR Israeli holidays....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#686. To: All (#685)

Meantime, when President Barack Obama comes to Chicago for the summit, he’ll stay at the Sheraton Chicago Hotel & Towers along the Chicago River.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:36:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#687. To: All (#686)

#

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Just sayin'....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#688. To: All (#687)

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Where are the perps today.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#689. To: All (#688)

the summit at McCormick Place.

McCormick qualifies as White Elephant.

Two weeks ago some one bought the lease and doubled their Terror insurance.....8D

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#690. To: All (#689)

"I believe that Chicago has shown a reputation of handling things correctly, and I don’t think that’s going to be any different in this particular case either," Jackson said, adding that he was "absolutely" confident in leaders and officials in keeping everyone safe.

Rahm IDF Immanuel the Mayor?

LMFAO Evac now.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   7:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#691. To: mcgowanjm (#690)

The last time we took exhibit space at McCormick Place was about 2003 and in spite of some imprrovement in the union rules it still cost $300 bucks to have a union electrician plug in our lights which was twice what it cost in 1989.

Money well spent though. Not a single one of our kiosks was later found in the Lake.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-04   7:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#692. To: All (#690)

Rahm IDF Immanuel the Mayor?

LMFAO Evac now.....;}

Almost forgot MI6 Peter Powers, Giuliani, and Netanyahu...

9/11 was good. Very Good for Israel...;}

Rahm is made a hero on 5.12.12. the fix is in.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#693. To: harrowup (#691)

Money well spent though. Not a single one of our kiosks was later found in the Lake.

Thanx for the confirmation...;}

Chicago..the city that works....

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#694. To: All (#693) (Edited)

To solve the EU that does not:

"The real Greek tax bill is lost in the post

On April 18th last, The Slog led with an IMF report inadvertantly showing the draconian new tax measures being set up for after the Greek elections this coming Sunday.

Nobody in the Western MSM went near the story, but the better-informed Greeks have since been voting with their feet by leaving the Pasok and New Democracy Parties in their droves.

Yesterday leading Greek newspaper Ekathimerini healdined with a piece entitled ‘Tax avalanche to follow elections’. This is further bad news for the pro-Troika Parties, who have been trying to rubbish such reports (ever since the first revelations nearly three weeks ago) with risible talk about ‘unfortunate delays’ and ‘forgetfulness’."

hat4uk.wordpress.com/

What elections? We just lost our NATO 'leaders'! Now is not the time for democracy.

Now is the time for resolute Actions.

Our Militarys were right to bankrupt their respective taxpayers.

We need them now more than ever.

And your Rights/Liberties will be returned shortly.

Now bring up the first child and elderly lady for their prescribed 'Pat down'....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:15:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#695. To: All (#694)

Probably the first tax clearance slips will be sent for income tax payment at the end of July. Those slips will also include the solidarity tax and the profession fee, which this year will soar by a massive 66% to 500 euros from 300 euros last year.

By then, of course, the eurozone might be in such deep doo-doo, those tax bills will be irrelevant – but don’t hold your breath. Just as pro-EU politicians ban elections, ignore elections, postpone elections, redo elections, and put off tax bills until after elections, they can do precisely the same via Mario Draghi’s increasingly junk-strewn ECB with budgets and bailouts. The problem becomes real only when an election fails to vote in a coalition prepared to go along with this sadistic madness….and this now looks increasingly likely in Greece.

I still can’t grasp what bit of this potential disaster for the eurocrats the MSM doesn’t get.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#696. To: All (#695) (Edited)

"05/04/2012 - 07:42 Zerohedge

With everyone and their mother scrambling to come up with some utterly meaningless number (why is it meaningless? Because From January to March seasonal adjustments have "added" 4,477,000 jobs, and the monthly error interval is 100,000..."

A 'truthful number like jobs actually lost could be a tell....just sayin'... a 'limited hangout', '$2.3 Trillion missing' kind of thing.....;}

"Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:11 | 2396168 tim73 tim73's picture

At least in tj(h)e USSR the tractor and tank production figures might have been true in some rare cases...

OK. Never mind the above.

115 k while the Unemployment % number drops....Lulz.

The PTB are still blowing smoke....carry on....8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#697. To: All (#696)

Jihadist website: 'Bin laden dead'

This is a curious story. Why would they announce his death if he is not dead? If he died, and the death were verified, there would certainly be displays of mourning from the tiny minority of extremists worldwide -- and if the media cared or dared to notice these displays, we would get some idea of how tiny that minority really is. 'Bin laden dead,' from Ynet News, with thanks to Gabrielle Goldwater:

‘Bin laden dead’

Radical internet site says al-Qaeda leader dead; experts believe report a fabrication

By Roee Nahmias Published: 04.29.05, 10:54 / Israel News

An internet news site close to al-Qaeda reported the death of Osama Bin Laden, creating a firestorm in radical Islamic circles.

The report was followed by denials and accusations of a fabrication fostered on the site by foreign agents.

The London-based newspaper Asharq al-Awsat reported on Friday that the site Minbar Ahl al-Sunnah wa-al-Jama'ah declared, “We now report that the al-Qaeda organization has announced the death of Osama Bin Laden.”

One of the writers on the site, working under the pseudonym “The Mujahiddin’s Pen,” added: “Osama Bin Laden is dead... Where are the mourners? Where those who sent themselves into the towers and tall buildings?”

www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3078937,00.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#698. To: All (#697)

Osama Bin Laden is dead – prove it By Russell Boyce May 2, 2011 Abottabad | Al Qaeda | Bin Laden | fake | Pakistan | Photoshop

When the news broke that Osama Bin Laden was dead, at the Reuters Global Pictures Desk in Singapore all we could think was one thing: We have to see the picture of the dead body. The world needed the tangible proof of a genuine photo before we could really absorb the idea that the world’s most sought and also most elusive Islamic extremist was dead. We also knew that the news agency that was first in sending a picture of his dead body to the world would go a long way to winning this historic story. Sending out a fake picture could be very embarrassing to say the least – a tough balancing act when under such pressure.

A few hours later there it was circulating on the internet: Osama Bin Laden’s bloodied face in a video transmitted by a TV station in Pakistan. Under tremendous pressure we could get the picture and fed it into our picture editing system in preparation for transmission around the globe.

But was it really Osama? It was rumoured that the source was US military but the editors on the Global Picture Desk found inconsistencies that immediately made us suspicious. There was odd pixilation and blurring and his face was darker in some areas than others. The biggest problem was that the picture looked familiar somehow. Quickly looking through dozens of our archive pictures we found that the bottom half of Osama Bin Laden’s face was identical to a picture of him speaking at a news conference in 1998. After flipping the picture 180 degrees and overlaying it with the picture of the dead Osama Bin Laden we had a perfect match. It was a fake.

The fake picture was locked in our system so that it couldn’t be sent out but would be saved for future training exercises. Meanwhile, the fake picture quickly gained momentum in cyber space.

blogs.reuters.com/russell...n-laden-is-dead-prove-it/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#699. To: All (#698) (Edited)

One. Year. Later.....;}

"We’re still waiting for that genuine picture of the body of Osama Bin Laden."

And this guy, The Slog, has it right:

"There is a global misapprehension at large in 2012, and it is this: that knowing the latest news in a 24/7 world means you’re well informed. It does not. A flood of hits comes to The Slog when something sensationally unreported elsewhere comes to light. But the best revelations (yesterday’s post on Jeremy Hunt, for example) get lower hits and attract new readers – who stay long after the news-junkies have left."

The first clue to AgitProp is complete lack of context.

Second clue is anonymous on condition of nat'l security.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#700. To: All (#699)

Eight months later, in March 2012, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius CIA/MI6/Mossad), whose writing invariably reflects what top national security officials want to see in the news media, was given a "small sample" of the documents by a "senior administration official." The two documents he chose to highlight - bin Laden's musings on shooting down aircraft with Obama or Petraeus on board and attacks on the tenth anniversary of 9/11 - had already been reported by CNN in July 2011. Acknowledging that al-Qaeda did not even have the military technology to shoot down a US plane, Ignatius observed that bin Laden, "still dreamed of pulling off another spectacular terror attack against the United States."

So, several months after the Abbottabad documents had been thoroughly analyzed and the results digested by senior administration officials, the administration was unable to cite a single piece of evidence that bin Laden had given orders for - or was even involved in discussing - a real, concrete plan for an al-Qaeda action, much less one that had actually been carried out. "

http://truth-out.org/news/item/8...behind-the-official-story

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   8:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#701. To: All (#700) (Edited)

Far from depicting bin Laden as the day-to-day decisionmaker or even "master strategist" of al-Qaeda, the documents showed a man dreaming of glorious exploits that were unconnected with reality.

"Nobody Listened to His Rantings Anymore"

The reality reflected in the documents from the Abbottabad compound is that bin Laden had been exiled by the leadership of al-Qaeda because he had come to be seen as a loose cannon who was a danger to the organization. The train of events that led to bin Laden's holing up in the compound in Abbottabad began in August 2003, in a small village in Afghanistan's Nangarhar province, near the fabled caves of Tora Bora where he led a battle against US Special Forces in December 2001. It was there that the leadership of al-Qaeda conducted a series of extraordinary meetings on its most pressing problem: how to ease bin Laden out of his leadership role in the organization.

LMFAO...This 'meeting' was held in Langley....;}

See 'We let Bin Laden get away' for details on how that 'meeting' went....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#702. To: A K A Stone (#0)

" BBC News - Pakistan Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud 'still alive' news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8651023.stmCached - Similar You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 29, 2010 – Pakistani Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud survived an American drone attack in January, intelligence sources say.

Is Hakimullah Mehsud Alive? New Video Evidence - The Daily Beast www.thedailybeast.com/......ive-new-video-ev...Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo May 3, 2010 – When Pakistani officials reportedly began saying last week that Mehsud was still alive, U.S. officials said they had always expressed some ...

Hakimullah Mehsud is still alive! | The News Tribe www.thenewstribe.com/2012...sud-is-still-alive/Cached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Jan 20, 2012 – Islamabad: Military sources have denied reports that Pakistani Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud was killed in a US drone attack in North ...

Hakimullah mehsud still alive. www.defence.pk/.../154259-hakimullah-mehsud-still-alive.htmlCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo 1 post - 1 author - Jan 21 Whats with the media now adays,1 day they say he's dead the next day they report he's alive somewhere in north waziristan.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#703. To: All (#702)

After the bin Laden raid, Qadir went back to his former comrades, and they introduced him to three of their relatives who had been couriers for Mehsud tribal militant leader Baitullah Mehsud in his contacts with al-Qaeda's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, during the 2003 meetings.

Mehsud would become the head of the al-Qaeda affiliate organization Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) in 2007. But in 2009, Mehsud was killed in a drone strike and the organization was splintering over various issues. All three former couriers broke their ties with Hakimullah Mehsud, Baitullah Mehsud's successor as head of TTP. The political split in the Mehsud tribal community, followed by the killing of bin Laden, released the former couriers from their oaths of secrecy.

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#704. To: All (#703)

After bin Laden moved from the Tora Bora region of Afghanistan to South Waziristan in northwest Pakistan, his health continued to decline, according to the three former Mehsud couriers. Just what ailments were causing the deterioration was not clear, but he was no longer able to walk, and had to be moved by horseback from one house in South Waziristan to another for security reasons.

Renal Kidney failure....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#705. To: All (#704) (Edited)

What this means, in essence, is this: In a country that is home to the harshest variants of Muslim fundamentalism, and to the headquarters of the organizations that espouse these extremist ideologies, including al-Qaeda, the Haqqani network, and Lashkar-e-Taiba (which conducted the devastating terror attacks on Mumbai three years ago that killed nearly 200 civilians), nuclear bombs capable of destroying entire cities are transported in delivery vans on congested and dangerous roads. And Pakistani and American sources say that since the raid on Abbottabad, the Pakistanis have provoked anxiety inside the Pentagon by increasing the pace of these movements.

Jan 2011...the AtlanticWire, latest hang out for pseudo Intel in the USSA.

The USSA just can't find 'em....;}

"But an even greater concern of the al-Qaeda shura (or council), according to the former couriers, was what appeared to bin Laden's colleagues to be his obsession with the idea that al-Qaeda should attack and capture Pakistan's nuclear reactor at Kahuta. Zawahiri, the second-ranking al-Qaeda leader, who had the task of meeting personally with bin Laden, along with the rest of the shura tried to tell bin Laden that Kahuta was impenetrable. They pointed to the presence of a regular infantry battalion, air defense, guard dogs, mines and a laser security system guarding the facility. And anyway, as they pointed out to bin Laden, there were no nuclear weapons stored there."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#706. To: A K A Stone (#0)

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Post Fri May 04, 2012 9:15 am by mcgowanjm So much for the HyperInflationistas...much to the Bernank's dismay.... :twisted: :? 8-)

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Post Fri May 04, 2012 9:15 am by mcgowanjm So much for the HyperInflationistas...much to the Bernank's dismay.... :twisted: :? 8-)

finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=CL&p=m5

Demand Resistance has been hammered and held.

The fall back of the 'HI's will not be pretty.

Starting Point was Obama's 4:12 AM Speech in Kabul.

Demand Resistance has been hammered and held.

The fall back of the 'HI's will not be pretty.

Starting Point was Obama's 4:12 AM Speech in Kabul.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#707. To: All (#705)

But none of that seemed to matter to bin Laden, who seemed delusional on the issue. "Nobody listened to his rantings anymore," said one of the couriers in a conversation with Qadir. "He had become a physical liability and was going mad," another told Qadir a couple of days earlier. "He had become an object of ridicule," said the second courier, recalling that some of the militants in South Waziristan had become aware of his harangues on the subject and were starting to make jokes at bin Laden's expense. "You can't have a leader whose people ridicule him," he said.

The CIA Man said....LMFAO

And the Arab Uprising was the last straw.

AQ was no where to be found. So the decision was made to get rid of OBL, once and for all.

A new MEME was needed. AQ franchises....Lulz

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   9:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#708. To: All (#707)

Abu Ayoub al-Iraqi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ayoub_al-IraqiCached - Similar

Abu Ayoub al-Iraqi has been credited with being one of the original founders of al-Qaeda ... however, that he was #3, since he was replaced by Mohammed Atef.

CIA

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   10:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#709. To: All (#708)

CIA

# US Names Abu al-Masri Newest Iraq Al-Qaeda Boogieman www.rense.com/general72/boof.htmCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo In short, the covert op pseudo-gang "al-Qaeda in Iraq" needs a new face, ... "We think that Abu Ayyub al-Masri is in fact, probably, Abu Hamza al-Muhajir ... as both operations were run by the CIA and a smattering of other intelligence services.

Abu Ayyub al Masri | The Weekly Standard www.weeklystandard.com/ke.../Abu-Ayyub-al-MasriCached You +1'd this publicly. Undo Apr 28, 2010 – When al Qaeda in Iraq's military chief Abu Ayyub al Masri was killed earlier this month, I noted that the CIA had tracked him to Baghdad in May ...

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Al Qaeda/CIA operative Abu Ayyub al-Masri dies for the 4th or 5th ... forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=167313.0;wap2 You +1'd this publicly. Undo Al Qaeda/CIA operative Abu Ayyub al-Masri dies for the 4th or 5th time again. (1/4) > > ... Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki announced the killings of Abu Omar ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   10:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#710. To: All (#709)

The question however that Washington needs to address is a more complex one and needs more subtle geopolitical analysis than Washington has been indulging in lately. Can the world in general and India, Israel and the US in particular afford to make a nuclear armed nation feel confused and insecure about its relations with them? Pakistan's defense strategy is based on a "first strike policy". Very simple this means that when in danger the Pakistanis will trigger the nukes. Keep in mind that this is the policy of secular, rational generals and not some crazy Mullahs.

We do not have to wait for Pakistani nukes to fall in to the hands of Taliban types before we see them lighting the sky. All we need to do is scare the present administration sufficiently. Nothing can be scarier for the present military establishment in Pakistan than the threat to their nuclear weapons. Is Washington scaring the Pakistanis? Yes it is. But things have not reached dangerous levels, but who knows what the threshold level of Pakistan is? How much pressure can it handle?

Washington continues to insinuate that Pakistan has been sharing its nuclear secrets with Iran and North Korea. Washington also continues to express its fears about the stability of Pakistan's command and control structure and the possibility of their nukes falling in the hands of militant Muslims. Despite Pakistan's repeated reassurances on both counts, Washington continues to maintain its doubts.

Every time Indians meet with Israelis, the conversation is the same. Israelis ask, "What can you do for us?" And Indians ask "What are you going to do about Pakistan?"

www.glocaleye.org/pakpressure.htm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   10:23:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#711. To: All (#710) (Edited)

http://truth-out.org/news/item/8...behind-the-official-story

According to one version, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, also known as "KSM," the mastermind of the 9/11 attack, had identified bin Laden's trusted courier in 2007; in another version, unidentified detainees had given interrogators the courier's real name.

The story of bin Laden's courier was an open invitation for past and present CIA officials who had gone along with the use of torture in interrogating suspects to justify their position. CIA Director Panetta channeled their viewpoint in an interview with NBC, suggesting that, for some of the information that led the agency to bin Laden, interrogators, "used their enhanced interrogation techniques against some of the detainees."

He added, "Whether we would have gotten the same information through other approaches I think is always going to be an open question." Reuters reported that the story of how the administration learned about the identity of bin Laden's courier was, "certain to reopen the debate over practices that many have equated with torture."

Rodriguez gets back handed signal to destroy the torture tapes....Lulz.

Notify CBS for 60 Minutes Story.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-04   10:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#712. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The US Highway Trust Fund.

Look for this to go belly up way before Social Security/Medicare....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-05   8:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#713. To: All (#711)

There has been no deal with Iran.

The USSA/Israel just cannot get everyone on board for an attack.

If oil was scarce it would seem prices would go up so Have fun picking it apart!

As I repeatedly state here, Return on Consumption is non existent.

A loan made to acquire oil is impossible to get recourse on when the collateral has been burned into the atmosphere.

When oil is scarce, the EROEI is in low single digits, like now.....

then add the FedRes' financialization to keep prices up...

Demand will be crushed...which is a lot easier to do than increase supply.

When the price falls, like Friday, the market then moves to not enough incentive to drill. As the $25 to $75 per BBL infrastructure has been destroyed.

See Chesapeake and Aubry McClendon for details on All of the above.... :twisted: :? 8-)

www.energybulletin.net/stories/2 ... -gas-may-4

McClendon, 52, helped cause Chesapeake shares to plummet amid the financial crisis when he sold hundreds of millions of dollars in stock to raise cash for himself. Later, to settle a lawsuit by shareholders, he agreed to buy back a $12 million map collection that he'd sold to Chesapeake.

His approach to running his company also is renowned: Among other employee perks, on-site Botox treatments are available at its headquarters in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

Now, a series of previously undisclosed loans to McClendon could once again put Chesapeake's CEO and shareholders at odds.

McClendon has borrowed as much as $1.1 billion in the last three years by pledging his stake in the company's oil and natural gas wells as collateral, documents reviewed by Reuters show... (18 Apr 2012)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-05   9:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#714. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Doing the right thing is easy. Major media journalists trying seldom get second chances. Repeated offenses end academic careers. Target Israel enough times and it's practically certain.

Sensitive truths in America aren't tolerated. Only wealth, power, and Israeli support are welcome. Some learn the hard way. Their honor and integrity remain intact. What's more important than that.

Stephen Lendman

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-06   9:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#715. To: A K A Stone (#0)

because Saudi Arabia is very actively working in countries such as Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, and Lebanon to reduce Iran's influence in those countries.

And, boy, don't those people know it.

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Post Sun May 06, 2012 8:56 am by mcgowanjm Re: Iran to build a nuclear bomb in 60 days?

Post Sun May 06, 2012 8:56 am by mcgowanjm All of the problems of the USSA start at 9/11....;}

And I'm watching Chicago/NATO like a hawk.... :twisted:

And where Rahm Emmanuel and Netanyahu are.

911 was the Mossad. But that is not an Israeli intelligence agency per say it is a terrorist agency for the military industrial complex which feeds off of the hatred of the bigots and useful idiots concentrated in Israel. The US and Israel are not really different countries in a way. The US and Israeli agencies and their Neocon governments work for their own interests and those interests are guided by a racist, political ideology mixed up with a fascist version of a religion and Straussian philosophy. There is a total disconnect between the people of America (the sane ones) and the government. US foreign policy works for Likud Israeli interests first second and third. This is because the Zionists and MIC have overlapping financial interests. But most of all the press is Zionist. There is no war greater right now than the information war. Nothing would fix things faster than taking back the media or totally discrediting the corrupt lying fear mongering war cheerleaders we have now.

A lot of people have written about and shown the problems with official 911 story. There is the demolition of building number 7, there are the firemen's reports that the fires were almost out, there are numerous reports of secondary explosions etc. Because it has been said on radio and more so because people have made films about it, many people can recite the arguments for the inside job in their sleep. Fire burns buildings; it does not burn on the top of one for an hour or so and then blow it up in a matter of ten seconds, completely destroying everything including the foundations and leaving molten steal in the basements weeks after the event. It is physically impossible.

www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/v ... php?t=1388

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-06   9:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#716. To: Fred Mertz, All (#711)

It was only the third race ever for I'll Have Another since September and the jockey, Mario Gutierrez, had never raced at Churchill Downs or in the Kentucky Derby before, which placed them at a significant disadvantage coming in, according to bettors. However, those who believed are smiling now.

I'll Have Another paid $32.60 for the win. If you bet the $2 Exacta, Trifecta or Superfecta and won, your payout would've been handsome. Here is what the winning numbers paid:

Exacta: 19-6 - $306

Trifecta: 19-6-5 - $1,532

Superfecta: 19-6-5-13 - $48,000

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-06   9:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#717. To: All (#716)

911 was an inside job which was part of a larger plan for perpetual war hatched in Israel. Understand that Israel is not Jewish people OK please get that through your warped heads. Israel is a violent nation that engages in false flag operations routinely and serves the interests of the MIC not any particular ethnicity. For a long time during the Cold War, Israel was the medium the MIC used to bully the Middle East indirectly and increase arms sales across the board. 911 and the recent wars in the Middle East were carefully planned attacks carried out by a faction of Zionist Neocons and the Israeli Mossad. The policy papers that acted as propaganda for the war were written by Dual Citizens with Israel. The equity firms profiting from the Iraq War like Carlyle and Trireme and the law firms processing contracts like Feith and Zell, the Anthrax attack, and the anthrax attack speech, the PNAC documents, the DPG the lies from journalists about Iraq's WMD are all connected back to the same Zionist cabal in the DOD and office of the vice president. Just think back to the propaganda about Iraq before the war and then go read what PNAC was writing in the 90s.

On top of that the Niger forgeries, which are Clear concrete proof to show that these men were consciously lying, have still not been reported in the Main Stream media. There is no surprise there, they can't even admit that Israel has Nukes, or any information about multiple spy-rings Spies (Pollard, Art Students, AIPAC, ADL, too many to even name. )

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-06   10:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#718. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Reasonn Paul going with his Israel Capitol is Jerusalem stance....

it's still possible for him to win.

Paul's the VP. Or US Sec Treas at the veery least.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-06   10:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#719. To: A K A Stone (#0)

9 puppets killed, 11 wounded in martyr attack amid "Operation Al-Farooq" Zabihullah Mujahid E-mail Print PDF Monday, 15 Jamadil Akhir 1433 Monday, 07 May 2012 08:23 PAKTIKA, May 07 – Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate, armed with explosive vests, hand grenades and heavy and small arms later on Sunday evening stormed the governor house, the department of National directorate of security (NDS), a local spy agency and other government and military places triggering an overnight fighting in which as many as 9 puppets were killed and 11 more got wounded whose bodies were used by martyrdom-seeking Mujahideen as cover during fighting, whereas the 11 puppets who were taken to the hospital are said to be in a very critical condition.

Besides the fatalities, a number of the government buildings were badly damages. One of the martyrdom-seeking Mujahids after hours of fighting the enemy became martyred, while the rest are reported to be engaged in putting up firm resistance and fighting back the enemies and fighting is ongoing in a rigorous way.

The martyrdom operation came on the fourth day and extended into the fifth day of the “Operation Al-Farooq” as part of the countrywide spring offensives. More updates will be available when more is known.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-07   9:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#720. To: A K A Stone (#0)

The Occupation is missing from the news and they purposely paint the distorted picture that Israel just defends itself from crazy suicide bombers. This is not something they can hide, or even debate about, the occupation is visible, you can go visit it, and it is widely covered in media outside the US, but you will never ever hear Israel's crimes even mentioned. There is no news of the Jewish-Only racial colonies that the US calls "Settlements" and "Neighborhoods" reported on Fox, ABCNNBCBS which is really one net work that tells the same stories often in the same order.

Can you believe that only 99 000 watch CNBC?

That's basically Zero on the Neilson Scale and yet the channel just keeps rolling along.

It costs Neilson extra just to track that low a number....;}

The illusion of remaining airborne may dissolve now with the Hollandaise denunciation of Franco-German team spirit while a centripetal vortex of unpaid obligations sucks notional wealth through the event horizon of massive deflation. Things are heating up, in other words. Wake up, sleepyheads! Welcome to the rest of the year 2012.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-07   9:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#721. To: All (#720)

There can be no doubt that the press consciously distorted information leading up to the wars, and that they never made any clear pronouncements about how they had been wrong about their lies, with the Weapons of Mass Destruction myth being a clear stinging example. There are people in the US who still believe that Iraq had WMDs or that they moved them to Syria lol.

If you want to know who planned 911 then a good place to look would be who do we know planned and then lied about Iraq? (also who has been lying the most about Iran) Who championed the disinformation? Where were the lies coming from? And when was this war really planned and where? The answered to all of those questions are sadly the same. Israel and American Zionists. And that is a fact we can prove.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-07   10:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#722. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

I thought about these things this past week, as the Eurozone continued its downward slide, our own economy showed signs of faltering again and – in a hundred small ways – the Empire continued its slow decay. Yesterday, I read a couple of articles about the state of the Empire as it faces financial and economic failure, environmental degradation, climate change and diminishing energy supplies.

The first article recapped a speech given by Leon Panetta to the Environmental Defense Fund this week. “Climate and environmental change are emerging as national security threats that “weigh heavily” on the Pentagon’s strategies …” the article stated. “… The quest for energy is another area, he said, that continues to shape and reshape the strategic environment …” www.upi.com/Business_News...cerns/UPI-19981336156813/

-conflicteddoomer.com

And what do we get from USSAtv this AM?

USSA intel, pick your agency, entraps another 5th grade level Sunni, and gins up a scaare.....BOO....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   7:24:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#723. To: All (#722)

A case can certainly be made that, with the exception of a tiny privileged elite, the hallmark of "progress" has been enslavement of the majority of humanity, forced into bondage whether it's hauling stones to build pyramids or Aztec temples, fighting off lions in the Coliseum, being sold for sex, chained in the hull of a ship, or sitting for years in a windowless office cubicle all the better to buy more gadgets in the glorious name of endless growth.

witsendnj.blogspot.com/20...connect-dots-day-and.html

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   7:26:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#724. To: All (#723)

"A surprising fact about the Neolithic revolution is that, according to most evidence, agriculture brought about a steep decline in the standard of living. Studies of Kalahari Bushmen and other nomadic groups show that hunter-gatherers, even in the most inhospitable landscapes, typically spend less than twenty hours a week obtaining food. By contrast, farmers toil from sunup to sundown. Because agriculture relies on the mass cultivation of a handful of starchy crops, a community’s whole livelihood can be wiped out overnight by bad weather or pests. Paleontological evidence shows that, compared with hunter-gatherers, early farmers had more anemia and vitamin deficiencies, died younger, had worse teeth, were more prone to spinal deformity, and caught more infectious diseases, as a result of living close to other humans and to livestock."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   7:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#725. To: mcgowanjm (#721)

And that is a fact we can prove.

No you can't. But I won't argue with you about it. Ain't worth the time. Just thought I'd let you know you shouldn't make such claims.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-08   7:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#726. To: All (#724)

Very simple:

" Google Translation says the page is already in English. However, I cut some of the comments and translated them. Here are the results.

* Not one euro for banks, prosecute the perpetrators of the crisis and a constitution written by the citizens!

* Education + health budget in 2012: 5,397 million euros. Rescue Bankia: 7,000 million euros

* Greece, under the control of the Troika, in bankruptcy. Iceland, after a revolution, Out of Crisis.

* 7,000 million euros for Bankia? To begin, No. # # HagamosComoIslandia RescatemosPersonas

* Trial of bankers and politicians, reappropriation of wealth plundered, new constitution and social justice

-mish

Same the world over.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   7:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#727. To: harrowup (#725)

And that is a fact we can prove.

No you can't. But I won't argue with you about it. Ain't worth the time. Just thought I'd let you know you shouldn't make such claims.

Hellooooo Wisconsin!!!!! ;}

Where's Colin Powell's 'white paper'?

LMFAO

And then tell me why we invaded Iraq......

I'm expecting nothing but silence....

Bibi: '9/11 is good, very good for Israel.'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:01:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#728. To: A K A Stone (#0)

finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=CL&cot=067651&p=w1

"A surprising fact about the Neolithic revolution is that, according to most evidence, agriculture brought about a steep decline in the standard of living.

Studies of Kalahari Bushmen and other nomadic groups show that hunter-gatherers, even in the most inhospitable landscapes, typically spend less than twenty hours a week obtaining food. By contrast, farmers toil from sunup to sundown. Because agriculture relies on the mass cultivation of a handful of starchy crops, a community’s whole livelihood can be wiped out overnight by bad weather or pests.

Paleontological evidence shows that, compared with hunter-gatherers, early farmers had more anemia and vitamin deficiencies, died younger, had worse teeth, were more prone to spinal deformity, and caught more infectious diseases, as a result of living close to other humans and to livestock."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#729. To: All (#728)

" Debt implosions and currency devaluation NEVER simply “fade away”; they are always followed by extreme social and political strife that tends to sully the doorsteps of almost every individual and family. The notion that we can coast through such a tempest unscathed is an insane idea, filled with a dangerous potential for sour regrets.

There are some people who also believe that the private Federal Reserve with the Treasury in tow has the ability to prolong the worst symptoms of the collapse indefinitely, or at least, until they have long since kicked the bucket and don’t have to worry about it anymore (the ‘pay-it forward to our grandkids’ crowd) . I can say with 100% certainty that most of us will live to see the climax of the breakdown, and that this breakdown is about to enter a more precarious state before the end of this year. You can only stretch a sun-boiled rubber band so far before it snaps completely, and America’s financial elasticity has long been melted away. "

www.alt-market.com/articl...-worried-yetyou-should-be

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#730. To: mcgowanjm (#727)

Some very stupid people decided to believe an obvious feint from a very self- aggrandizing lunatic.

Powell is an ass.

Bibi never said that.

In spite of saying it isn't worth discussing I thought you deserve an answer in spite of your assertion that I would not.

It still isn't worth talking about. For pete's sake people are still arguing about Caligula but it won't rebuild Rome.

Personally, the WTC were the most ugly buildings in NYC (well, the Guggenheim looks like a toilet) and were badly designed and built by corrupt unions with inferior materials. So, good to go.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-08   8:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#731. To: All (#729)

CNBC pulls 99 000 viewers....and yet is still on the air.

Monday hour by hour:

8 p.m.

ABC: "Dancing With the Stars" (15 million viewers, 9.8/15 households)

NBC: "The Voice" (9.2 million, 5.5/9)

CBS: "How I Met Your Mother" (7.9 million, 4.9/8)/"2 Broke Girls" (9.1 million, 5.5/8)

FOX: "Bones" (7 million, 4.4/7)

The CW: "Gossip Girl" (1.05 million, 0.8/1)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:42:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#732. To: harrowup, All (#730)

Bibi never said that.

I've been quoting Bibi since the Day after 9/11....;}

Netanyahu Zionism

[In New York on day of 911 and London on day of 7/7. Beat that for a 'coincidence'.]

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: "It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#733. To: mcgowanjm (#728)

Paleontological evidence shows that, compared with hunter-gatherers, early farmers had more anemia and vitamin deficiencies, died younger, had worse teeth, were more prone to spinal deformity, and caught more infectious diseases, as a result of living close to other humans and to livestock."

Very interesting. Goes to show us that urban ghettos are just as bad today as they were in the beginning. I guess this study suggests that Green Acres is [NOT] the place to be even so.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-08   8:46:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#734. To: harrowup (#730)

It still isn't worth talking about. For pete's sake people are still arguing about Caligula but it won't rebuild Rome.

Personally, the WTC were the most ugly buildings in NYC (well, the Guggenheim looks like a toilet) and were badly designed and built by corrupt unions with inferior materials. So, good to go.

There's a reason that there's no staute of limitations on murder and treason...;}

The effects remain until both are solved.

As you have Yet to tell me why we invaded Iraq.....;}

Still waiting.....expecting crickets.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#735. To: mcgowanjm (#732)

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: "It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"

You have the audio/video link of course.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-08   8:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#736. To: harrowup (#733)

Very interesting. Goes to show us that urban ghettos are just as bad today as they were in the beginning. I guess this study suggests that Green Acres is [NOT] the place to be even so.

Exactly not. Only the Elite have balanced diets in Empire/Civilizations.

Every one.

And Green acres Is the place to be IF you own Green Acres....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#737. To: harrowup (#735)

You have the audio/video link of course.

Jesus fucking Christ.

I'd have to give you the Fox link endorsed by bush43 for you to be convinced.

But it would make zero difference even if I did.

You'd walk off unaffected, like you'd run into a stranger.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#738. To: All (#732)

Debt implosions and currency devaluation NEVER simply “fade away”; they are always followed by extreme social and political strife that tends to sully the doorsteps of almost every individual and family. The notion that we can coast through such a tempest unscathed is an insane idea, filled with a dangerous potential for sour regrets.

There are some people who also believe that the private Federal Reserve with the Treasury in tow has the ability to prolong the worst symptoms of the collapse indefinitely, or at least, until they have long since kicked the bucket and don’t have to worry about it anymore (the ‘pay-it forward to our grandkids’ crowd) . I can say with 100% certainty that most of us will live to see the climax of the breakdown, and that this breakdown is about to enter a more precarious state before the end of this year. You can only stretch a sun-boiled rubber band so far before it snaps completely, and America’s financial elasticity has long been melted away.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   8:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#739. To: mcgowanjm (#737)

But it would make zero difference even if I did.

On the contrary. A valid audio/video link would be a credible source.

Without it, I just conclude you made it up.

Happens a lot on the internet.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-08   8:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#740. To: harrowup (#739)

Without it, I just conclude you made it up.

Happens a lot on the internet.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Kinda like the reasons for why we invaded iraq.

Tell you what, Hup.

You give me the reason we invaded. And 9/11 the Muslims did it, I'll need your source for that as well.

THEN, I'll give you the video of Bibi telling why Mossad did 9/11.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   9:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#741. To: All (#740)

If you're not talking about Israel, then you're really not talking about 9/11.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   9:23:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#742. To: All (#741)

Basement explosions from planted explosions. WTC.

'A bomb planted in the building.'

'If there was a third explosion the building might collapse.'

'We had that big explosion from much lower...at the base of the towers.'

Chopper 2: 'We just witnessed some secondary explosion.'

'One of the explosions at the WTC may have been caused by a van'

'We just heard another explosion.'

'There was a bomb in the lobby.'

'I literally thought that the subway had exploded.'

'The subway cars filled with smoke.'

'He went back in the revolving doors, when a fireball threw him back into the street.'

The explosions went 'boom. boom boom boom all the way down'.

An explosion. The third explosion. The whole lobby collapsed on us.'

'The third one...waiting to go upstairs....everything just went up... staging area on fire....waiting to go upstairs....in the building trying to help people and explosions going off....couldn't get worse than that.'

'Two planes and explosions that were ion the building...what the FBI is going with at this point.'

'They arrested the truck full of explosives'.

'Two men in FBI custody...van ful of explosives ...Geo Washington bridge.... arrrested and questioning....'

'another terrorist attack stopped an attack on the Geo Washington Bridge'.

'Urban Moving Sytems Van...APB '

'Liberty State Park...filming celebrating 9/11 attack...each had tickets to immediately leave the US.'

'You could only see one side of one tower from Urban Moving Systems so they moved to film the enitre event.....already on the roof....looking.

'Dancing Israelis.'

Took 76 photos....visibly seen smiling.'

Silven Kirschberg....lied to two men...said he was construction worker in WTC.'

'Silven admitted...WTC highlighted.

'Silven also babble on about Palestinians....lied... claiming they were onm the West Side.'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   9:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#743. To: All (#742)

MAtching license plates.

All Israelis.

Taken pics of selves flicking lighters.

Many thought that first plane was an accident.

But not these Israelis.

Sudden disappearance of the story.

Then Palestinians are shown dancing. But not these Dancing Israelis.

Filming the 9/11 attacks...before they happened.

After the police pulled them over...Silvan K-berg...guns drawn police physically removed from the van.

'We are Israeli...we are not your problem....the Palestinians are your problem.'

'Why did they assume that they were pulled over because of 9/11.'

'They were deported back to Israel'.

'The higher ups always swoop in...the police are furious....nothing they can do about it.'

All MEdia: Urban Moving Systems had access to the towers.

Van: Mural depicted of painting of planes slamming into WTC's.

Two men ran away from truck'.

'We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Palestinians are your problem.'

'They were released by Chertoff.'

'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   9:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#744. To: mcgowanjm (#743)

I remember all those items. Here we are 10 plus years later...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2012-05-08   9:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#745. To: All (#743)

That fanatical Jews can live in protected colonies as the'others'

are pushed into ghettoes....why they hate us.

Comverse works closely with the Israel Government.

The FBI to pursue that Israeli spying thru Comverse is career suicide.

flt 93 10:03. Recorder stopped.

10:45 4th explosion at the World Trade Center.

We don;t know the source of the 4th explosion.

WTC 7 didn't collapse.

BBC reported WTC 7 had fallen when it was still standing.

100's of Billions of Corp Fraud destroyed.

'The Soloman Building has also collapsed.' Was still standing.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   9:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#746. To: All (#745)

911 Commission:

Ignored WTC 7.

Looked kinda stupid w/out Flt 93 reaching WTC 7.....;}

I can scream until I'm blue the face and NONE of this will show up on tv.

OKC Bombing Cover up.

Free Fall Speed. Never before. Never since.

Jet fuel can leave molten steel in the basements.

But things made of paper at the Pentagon don't burn.

Successful Conspiracies. The Media is owned by the Pentagon.

An Event was needed to cover the old crimes and pave the way for new ones.

Urban Moving systems brings explosives in.

'One of the towers had an elevator that had mal functioned for a month prior to 9/11.'

Katherine Smith found dead Memphis Feb 2002 fiery car crash. Fraud License.

Suspect had WTC Basement pass.

Hammad claimed he'd been doing work on the sprinkler systems. Port Authority does it's own work on sprikler systems.

Tn Driver's License....similar to elevator fiasco.

Kat Smith died ablaze in her car day before she was to testify.

Hammad released on $250 000 bail.

Why wasn't there a follow up investigation into Dentco Mechanical?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   10:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#747. To: All (#746)

Chertoff/Goss stifled FBI investigations of Obama bin Laden cells.

money from which went to 911 ops.

John O'neill. Anthony Shaffer. Shut down.

The 9/11 ops were always one step ahead. Comverse Israeli wire taps.

FOX Cameron: "As soon as those wiretaps went into place the ops changed their telecommuncations methods....'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   10:17:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#748. To: All (#747)

Bombs and bombers were found on 9/11.

The steel was quickly destroyed/shipped off to China.

No one but the gov't itself to run the drill of the WTC's being attacked on the Day the WTC's were attacked.

Col Robert Marr. Is this an exercise? 'This is not an exercise.'

NORAD had drills eerily like 9/11.

Purposefully held back defense until it was too late to act.

Anthrax lies.

OBL did not have the means to steal US made anthrax.

The USSA/Israel did this all on their own.

Mohammed Atta.....

He was the one used to link anthrax to Iraq.

He lived next door to Israeli spies.

Just 6 days before 9/11 Atta was seen on Abramoff's Casino Boat.

Able Danger Report...Fox News got clean copy.

We told 911 Commissiion one thing and none of these things showed up in the 911 Commission Report.

We were following the trail of Mohammed Atta.'

Lt Col Tony Shaffer: 'We were tracking Mohammed Atta.'

9500 books bought by Pentagon written by Shaffer and destroyed.

Al qaeda OBL tapes are fake.

Just when bush43 needed them.

One of the tapes was so bad that it took footage form 2006 Road from Guantanomo.

After this they went to just audio tapes....these were debunked as well.

Sep m2002. No proof to prove the 9/11 hijackers.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   10:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#749. To: All (#748)

Adam Pearlman. Dad member of the board on the Anti Defamation League.

'I'm Al Qaeda.'

New AQ.

Al Qatab.

Also fake.

Real name.

Joseph Cohen.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   10:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#750. To: All (#749)

Everything about Al Qaeda is a fake.

You can't get a single instance of OBL referring to Al Qaeda before 9/11.

Rumsfeld: 'Sophisticated caves'. All over.'

Ther weren't any of those.

7 living hi jackers and one who died before the event.

8 out of 19 who could not possibly have particpated in 9/11.

'Whatever trail was left, was left deliberately for the FBI top chase.'

'A major intel Agency night also have been involved.'

Adnan Bukhari was cleared of involvement. Not connectec at all. ID was stolen.

His bro died in a small plane crash.

Worse than passport was stolen.

bush43 claimed not once, but twice that he saw the first plane hit the Twin Towers. Why didn;t he call up Cheney who didn;t get the word until 9:02?

LMFAO

'There's one terrible pilot.

Why didn't the SS move bush43.

Miltaryin PEOC: The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.

The plane is ten miles out.

Do the orders still stand.

Cheney the asshole ticket to Hell punched:

Of course the orders still stand.

You haven't heard anything to the contrary.

Are the the orders to stand by still in effect? Because the plane is getting close.

Flt 77....not Flt 93.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   10:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#751. To: mcgowanjm (#740)

THEN, I'll give you the video of Bibi telling why Mossad did 9/11.

You cannot give that which you do not possess.

And, having read the rest of your nonsense I made a mistake in reading any more of your rants.

You are certifiably nuts and as such not worth my time.

harrowup  posted on  2012-05-08   11:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#752. To: All (#750)

Flt 93 was never just 50 miles from DC.

Norman Mineta arrived PEOC at 9:20

Richard Clark arrived at 903 to find that Cheney/Rice were already in the PEOC

recalls that Mineta arrived at 9:20 because they were looking for him.

911 Commission deleted Mineta's remarks.

You'd think there would be an ivestigation into this....;}

9/11 hijackers visas were issued by the CIA

how separate is AL QAEDA and the CIA?

When did the CIA lose track of OBL?

We know the CIA isn;t losing any sleep over the heroin trade being re intro'd in the Afghans....;}

WaPo: All convicted USS Cole defendants have been escaped from prison or been released or been released by prison officials.

Barbara Bdine blocks John O'Neill's investigation into the Cole bombing. Capt of the Cole a close personla friend of Bodine's....;}

why was the Cole even there instead of in Bahrain where it was scheduled?

How did the terroists know it would be in Yemen?

Still to this day, no investigation into the USS Cole bombing.

Or the Anthrax Attacks.

O 'Neill took a job with Kroll after a frame up by the FBI.

Jerome Hauer, who also took part in the Anthrax Case, hired O'Neill.

Just 2 weeks after getting his new job, O'Neill died in the South Tower WTC.

There so many things wrong with 9/11

Media: 19 Muslim guys who left us a list with 2 magically found passports.

Left a nice neat paper trail. Left Strip Clubs devout Muslims.

Atta: His bag just happened not to get checked in.

The Afghan invasion was set months before 9/11

OBL was in high tech caves. Rumsfeld said there were many lof these caves. They did not exist.

Obl was killed. Body dumped in the ocean.

Anthrax attack to push the Patriot Act along.

An Israel Agent witnessed the transfer of the anthrax from Al Qaeda hijacker by an Iraqi agent.

The Anthrax was made in America.

Even as Powell KNEW the Anthrax was made in America he told the UN that Saddam had the anthrax.

Judith Miller conviced criminal was the liar du jour for the NYT to get the US into Iraq.

Powell at the UN: 'Iraq can produce all the weaponized Anthrax it wishes to."

Cheney reiterated the lie on Meet The Press.

The FBI ordered the Ames Strain destroyed, then went on a wild goose chase.

bush43 was adamant about blocking an investigation into 9/11.

Odigo Messaging Service says workers were warned of the attack. At least 2 individuals came forward about the warnings they had received.

Comverse took a 12.4 % stake in Odigo in 2001.

As of 2002 they own it all.

board of Directors of Hollinger/Comverse:

Kissinger Richard Pearle James R Thompson from the 911 Commission

Hollinger paper the JPost spread the rumor 9/12/01 that 1000's of Jews did not show up for work.

Obfuscate the real fore warnings by Odigo.

Conrad Black, Thompson part of.

Zelikow has total control to set up info of 911 Commission.

Zelikow promoted world view that Iraq did 9/11.

Z forgot that 911 Commission was not to be tool.

Staff member Donna Lezman dug into Saudi Connection. Zelikow Had her 28 pp redacted.

Zelikow was later ID'ed as the author of The Pre Emptive War Doctrine 2002.

In Sep 2002 We did not know that Zelikow had authored this Nat Sec Doc.

Fred Fielding of Z/Blackwater on the 911 Commission.

Is bush43's Lawyer.

911 Commission was a Total Joke.

PNAC Lehman Rebuilding AMerica's Defenses.

Afghan/Iraq A Necessary War

Robert Kagan Bill Kristol war mongers.

WTC 7 was not even investigated.

Silverstein made $7 Billion on 9/11.

Pentagon was hit in the one spot that was trying to account for all the Trillions missing.

The Pentagon cannot account for 25% of what it already spends.'

Rumsfeld 0910/11 'We cannot account for $2.3 Trillion.'

Why is the USSA Always at war.

Perpetual War is the openly stated goal.

Investigate 9/11 end the War Now.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   11:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#753. To: All (#752)

www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31079.htm

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   11:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#754. To: Fred Mertz (#744)

I remember all those items. Here we are 10 plus years later...

Been doing this from the Day after 2001.

This is the first time I've been able to access an easily watched vid...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-08   11:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#755. To: A K A Stone (#0)

#7. To: Robin (#6)

You can tell when the USSA is in Epic Fail mode.

They used to roll out Missing White Girls...and War on drugs... now it's Al Qaeda Bomb...BOO.

Even as the USSAtv wasted at least the 1st 4-5 minutes of air time yesterday the plot has already been exposed....Lulz...;}

'Underwear bomber' was working for the CIA Paul Harris and Ed Pilkington in New York

Bomber involved in plot to attack US-bound jet was working as an informer with Saudi intelligence and the CIA, it has emerged

May 8, 2012

F-22 production stopped long ago by LittleHelper on 09.05.2012 [02:48 ] There exist only about 150 of those F-22 fighter jets. Production stopped some time ago, because the US Department of defense has been running out of funds to finance development of them. The US now are concentrating on the F-35 fighter jet, which is the successor of the F-22 in the JSF program. Its development costs are also spiralling out of control, and it's very questionable, whether the F-35 really will be built in large numbers some day.

IMG[www.barchart.com/cach...ed547c828687b5a91a6e7.png

Without the pillars of austerity and "structural adjustment", there is very little justification for the ECB or Germany to continue backstopping the peripheral finances of the Eurozone. It's not as if the consumers or businesses in these countries can even afford to buy Germany's exports anymore, as made all too clear by Rajoy's comments, and the failure of peripheral banks is all but guaranteed. When a financial institution such as Bankia is bailed out, make no mistake - there will be no one able or willing to bail out the Spanish Treasury.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-09   8:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#756. To: All (#755)

Update: Here we go - SPAIN TO NATIONALIZE BANKIA LATER TODAY - ABC

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-09   9:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#757. To: All (#756)

How one could make a film about 911 and not say anything about Israel is beyond me. One would have to intentionally avoid it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-09   10:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#758. To: A K A Stone (#0)

USSA gives Israel one billion for Arrow missile.

Cuts food stamps and free lunches to children here.

F-35 to cost over $Trillion. Will be substandard to what we have now.

Pilots refuse to fly F-22. Oxygen goes out at the worst time. Kills them.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#759. To: All (#758) (Edited)

"The consequences of the end of these two empires can’t be dealt with on the battlefield, as the long debate over the shape of America’s human ecology was, and it can’t be dealt with by jerry-rigging a set of temporary expedients to overcome the mismatch between real wealth and a dysfunctional financial system, as the crisis of the Great Depression was. It will require massive changes in every aspect of American life, starting with a steep decline in standards of living and the forced abandonment of privileges most Americans think of as theirs by right."

-Archdruid Report

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#760. To: All (#759)

"the Greek political complex has become much too rigid and reactionary for the Eurocrats to manage."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#761. To: All (#760)

"And today we have the news that the American ambassador here in Pakistan has actually cut short his assignment here and flown back to Washington because basically the American diplomats here too are complaining that the US military and the CIA are out of control. They do the hard work; they try to work with the Afghan government and the Pakistani government. But when it comes to the US military and the CIA, they destroy everything."

So basically what you see happening right now in Kabul is that President Karzai is in the same position as the US State Department and the US diplomats are in Kabul, which is basically: they cannot trust the US military, they cannot trust the CIA.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#762. To: All (#761)

RT: Just about a week ago we had the American President there congratulating his troops on a job well done saying that they are in a process of having peace talks with Taliban, although they are also targeting the Taliban. Is that just a political rhetoric? I thought America was winning a war on terror?

AQ: Absolutely not. I think the Americans are facing an embarrassing defeat in Afghanistan. The civilian deaths we are seeing right now in Afghanistan are one sign of their desperation. They are using all out disproportionate force really to get at what they see as Afghan resistance or Afghan fighters. "

Russia Today (They should know;)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#763. To: All (#762) (Edited)

They take us for fools....;}

' Obama Sends US Special Ops Back into Yemen by John Glaser

"The Pentagon claims they're being sent to train Yemeni forces

May 9, 2012

The Pentagon announced Tuesday it is sending U.S. troops back to Yemen to train Yemeni security forces in a final indication that Washington has been successful in maintaining the status quo, despite a still-active protest movement vying for reform."

The reason for the latest failed false flag.

Another in the Perpetual War before the Inevitable Collapse.

"It is likely that the role of these troops goes well beyond the "routine training" claimed by the Pentagon spokesman, which would mark yet another instance where Obama sends U.S. soldiers into action abroad without the consent of Congress or the American people."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#764. To: All (#763)

Why they hate us...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#765. To: All (#764)

Putin to skip G8 summit, talks with Obama in US Russia's newly-inaugurated President Vladimir Putin speaks during a reception marking Victory Day at the Kremlin in Moscow, on May 9, 2012.Thu May 10, 2012 8:13AM GMT

Russia’s newly-inaugurated President Vladimir Putin has pulled out of the Group of Eight summit in Maryland, US, and ice-breaker talks with US President Barack Obama next week, the Kremlin says.

Raising new questions about Moscow-Washington ties, Putin, who took the oath as the new Russian leader on Monday, informed Obama of his decision during a telephone call on Wednesday.

He noted the need to stay in Moscow to finalize cabinet appointments in the new Russian government, citing he will send Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev in his place. "

..........;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#766. To: All (#765)

The consequences of the end of these two empires can’t be dealt with on the battlefield, as the long debate over the shape of America’s human ecology was, and it can’t be dealt with by jerry-rigging a set of temporary expedients to overcome the mismatch between real wealth and a dysfunctional financial system, as the crisis of the Great Depression was. It will require massive changes in every aspect of American life, starting with a steep decline in standards of living and the forced abandonment of privileges most Americans think of as theirs by right."

About 49% of Americans say they aren't contributing to any retirement plan, according to a new survey conducted by LIMRA, a trade association for the financial services industry.-CNN

Let;s just call it 50%....;}

Reword: They don't have a retirement plan. They don't have a $1000.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   7:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#767. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Someone ought to pay me for this.....;}

" Spain Nationalizes BFA and 45% of Bankia; No Bid for CatalunyaCaixa, Bank Worth Less Than Zero; Der Spiegel: Germany Fears "Bottomless Pit"

The implosion in Spanish banks continues. On Wednesday, Spain nationalized BFA, the 8th nationalization since the start of the crisis.

After sinking 3 billion into CatalunyaCaixa, Spain tried to privatize the mess but there were no offers at zero euros. Clearly CatalunyaCaixa bank is worth less than zero.

Meanwhile Der Spiegel reports "Bundesbank has no idea of what is happening in Spanish banks". Mish readers do. The Spanish banking system is without a doubt bankrupt."

-mish

mcgowanjm  posted on  2012-05-10   9:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Repl