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Title: Goldi Lays Down Law (Yukon on the Ropes)
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URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=318535&Disp=5#C5
Published: Jan 27, 2012
Author: Goldi
Post Date: 2012-01-27 23:21:52 by NewsJunky
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Comments: 155

#5. To: yukon, LP WARNING !!! (#1)

I am only going to tell you ONCE...

If you don't like Newt, fine. Promote your own candidate.

If I see any more stuff that you post to destroy him, I will remove you.

I'm fed up.

and not just with YOU. With all the assassins.

LP WILL NOT BE ANY PART OF THE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION OF A CONSERVATIVE FOUNDER.

If you don't like it, post elsewhere.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2012-01-27 23:11:47 ET Reply Trace

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#19. To: buckeroo (#14)

Get the fuck out of here, loser.

Shut up and watch your mouth.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-28   17:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Murron (#16)

"First off: I don't care for personal attacks, or character assassinations..."

Interesting to hear that from the likes of you. You are all about personal attacks, complete with childish emoticons.

"IF he is elected he may give amesty to all the Illegal Aliens who have been here for so many years, and their families too so that they are not separated.

Sounds good if you DON'T stop to think about it.... "

Sounds crazy if you know the truth. There have been far more deportations since President Obama has taken office than we ever saw with the Bush Administration.

He's also put more boots on the border, and none of that is going to help him in getting Latinos and latinas to vote for him.

We are a nation of immigrants, so naturally a sound amnesty policy needs to pass Congress and be signed into law.

Too many good, hard working people have come here to live and work, and done so in a law biding manner to not give them a route toward citizenship.

All draconian anti-immirant laws have ever done is hurt a state's economy. Just look at Georgia and it's law that saw the farmers have to plow under their crops because though they tried, they could not get native born citizens to come out and do the work to help harvest their crops.

Your ignorance on the immigrant question is so breath taking it is mind boggling.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-28   17:43:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: harrowup (#17)

Only if the forum owner wishes to agree with you.

No you are welcome here anytime. Ignore the fool.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-28   17:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Murron (#16)

But if he does get the chance to allot amesty, citizenship, to tens of millions of Illegal Aliens and their extended families

Obviously I don't pay attention to the specifics of any candidate since I'm not voting on issues, only against Obama. I cannot imagine any POTUS would be able to grant amnesty as you have described carte blanche.

There has to be some way to allow the illegals to fess up and get in line for citizenship here or back home without putting everyone in jail.

I certainly do not accept the idea that just because they have children there should be some 'early up'.

We do need to close the damn border.

harrowup  posted on  2012-01-28   17:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: harrowup, Mad Dog (#17)

buckeroo  posted on  2012-01-28   17:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#19) (Edited)

buckeroo  posted on  2012-01-28   18:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Ferret Mike (#20)

We are a nation of immigrants, so naturally a sound amnesty policy needs to pass Congress and be signed into law.

I think the plan put together by Bush and almost passed by the Congress was a pretty good one. I don't remember the year but the vitriol at FR and LP against any kind of comfort was distressful. Some of the haters are still around but I've not seen Murron joining any pitchfork brigade.

We have used the services of immigrant/migrant labor in our operations in Wisconsin since 1993 and have had no particular problems with e-verify or local authorities. While I don't personally manage or monitor it when I was more active I always spent time meeting all the employees and their families. Some were transient and others lived here.

We did experience a lack of labor when all of the yelling was going on and it was noted in the local press how unusual it was to see so many caucasians in the fields and running the equipment.

There has never been any round-up here and I've not bailed out any more migrants than locals over the years.

harrowup  posted on  2012-01-28   18:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: NewsJunky (#0)

As I told Goldi with my last post on that forum, she is a 'cunt' and remains so...

Of course she scrubbed that post...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2012-01-28   18:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: harrowup, ALL (#22)

Where do you stand on illegal immigration?

Gingrich: "If you've come here recently, you have no ties to this country, you ought to go home, period," Gingrich said. "If you've been here 25 years and you got three kids and two grandkids, you've been paying taxes and obeying the law, you belong to a local church, I don't think we're going to separate you from your family, uproot you forcefully and kick you out."

"I'm prepared to take the heat for saying let's be humane in enforcing the law without giving them citizenship, but by finding a way to create legality so that they are not separated from their families."

Question: How do you "create legality" for Illegal Aliens without granting amnesty, or citizenship?

Murron  posted on  2012-01-28   18:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: harrowup (#25)

Good post. I have lost jobs when I worked in the woods because of an influx of immigrant labor, and at my current job I am having to work harder because a company that is owned by immigrants consistently tries to outbid us and thus we have had to leave money on the table to keep clients, and more work is expected out of us all working there to make us competitive enough to stay in business,

However, that is the inherent nature of the free enterprise system, isn't it?

We will survive, and the nation will actually be stronger with the influx of people who have great work ethics, on the whole obey the law and do not cause trouble and add to our collective cultural melting pot.

I take people as they come, I do not snub someone for being Hispanic and from Mexico. Hell, I am a quarter Puerto Rican myself, and the Irish in me used to be very discriminated against complete with "No Irish Need Apply" signs, and slurs such as "Irish are White 'N' word people.

I have friends who were directly involved as workers in companies that killed the Reforestation firm I worked for. That's water over the dam. They are good people and i am proud to know the ones I call friends.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-28   18:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Murron (#27)

Question: How do you "create legality" for Illegal Aliens without granting amnesty, or citizenship?

I guess that is where the 'get in line' part comes in for the ones that have been around a long time. You've got to have faith that the ones that want citizenship will ask for it and the others will chose to go back home and take their children with them.

Sounds fair enough to me.

harrowup  posted on  2012-01-28   18:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Murron (#27)

"Question: How do you "create legality" for Illegal Aliens without granting amnesty, or citizenship?"

It's been done throughout our entire history, as there have always been people coming here illegally.

I have family back in New England who talk about the recent influx of Irish nationals now the economy has gone south there.

Many people here have descendants who were illegals from all over the world.

When they come here, prove their meddle by working hard, create new businesses, get education that make them valuable human assets because many others who were born and raised didn't bother to, or show in many other ways they are worthwhile candidates for citizenship, why be petty?

Opening the borders for a free for all, or draconian laws crippling Georgian agriculture are extremes that are no answer to the problem, so a compromise somewhere in the middle that calls for some amnesty just makes good sense.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-28   18:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#3)

Who is Yu-Tard backing,Romney

Backing? Fire Island of course. Or perhaps the other way around. :-)

meguro  posted on  2012-01-28   20:38:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

Once upon a timeone could even support the Democratic candidate there.

There is less and less of that going around all over the web as the Party People take over.

I lasted exactly ONE post on the Huffington Post.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-28   21:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: meguro (#31)

Backing? Fire Island of course. Or perhaps the other way around. :-)

I think they both probably spend a lot of time backing up when they are frolicking on the beach.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-28   21:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Murron (#16)

you can bet Newt Gingrich will be the LAST CONSERVATIVE to ever hold the office of president

That's making the assumption that Gingrich is a conservative.

He is not.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-28   23:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: We The People (#34)

That's making the assumption that Gingrich is a conservative.

He is not.

Newt is pretty conservative. What is liberal about him?

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-28   23:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike (#20)

There have been far more deportations since President Obama has taken office than we ever saw with the Bush Administration.

He's also put more boots on the border, and none of that is going to help him in getting Latinos and latinas to vote for him.

Those statistics have nothing to do with Obama's policies or actions.

Those deportations and boots on the ground were increases scheduled during the Bush administration, not that I'm defending that miserable POS. I just hate seeing Obama given credit for something he had nothing to do with.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-28   23:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#35)

Newt is pretty conservative. What is liberal about him?

His statements that Paul Ryan's meager attempts at budget cuts were "radical, right wing social engineering".

His siding with Pelosi on global warming and co-sponsoring 418 bills with her, he supported the healthcare individual mandate in his book, "Real Change", he was the Southern regional director for the Presidential campaign of liberal Republican Nelson Rockefeller, he was a lobbyist for ethanol subsidy recipients, he supported the bailouts and said he would have voted for TARP, he supported the funding of Planned Parenthood, has promoted the idea of a "cap and trade" carbon trading, supports amnesty for illegals, toured the country with Al Sharpton promoting the socialist education policies of the Obama administration...

Do I need to go on?

We The People  posted on  2012-01-28   23:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: We The People (#37)

Do I need to go on?

Yes, you do. Please feel encouraged to beat some common-sense into his thick skull.

buckeroo  posted on  2012-01-28   23:39:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: We The People (#36)

He could of scuddled this, and in fact he not only carried out these policies and logistical changes, he pro actively worked to make these changes more aggressive.

Understand too, I don't support these changes, and I criticize him for them. I am in fact quite a bit to the left of President Obama in some things.

You can be temperamental about this too, but you are not being fair not to give him some of what I feel is the blame for these policies.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-29   0:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone (#38)

Do I need to go on?

Yes, you do.

Half a trillion dollar tax increases during his tenure as Speaker, 84 ethics complaints while Speaker, has openly supported 'regime change' in Iran and Venezuela, he was a key supporter of NAFTA and the alphabet soup of trade deals, he's got a slew of neoconservative foreign policy advisers, supports the ideals of the United Nations charter...

We The People  posted on  2012-01-29   0:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike (#39)

www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2...better-focusing-resources

The Obama Administration today announced a virtual amnesty-by-decree for hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens, whose deportations will be “indefinitely delayed”. In addition, Obama finally announced a jobs program – but for ILLEGAL ALIENS, not citizens – as those 300,000 illegals will also become eligible for “work permits“.

standwitharizona.com/blog...iens-offers-work-permits/

We The People  posted on  2012-01-29   0:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: We The People (#41)

Nice, thanks for the heads up. I support this.

I disagree with you perhaps on the issue, but I respect where you are coming from, and an always willing to debate the issue with you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-29   0:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: NewsJunky (#0)

LP WILL NOT BE ANY PART OF THE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION OF A CONSERVATIVE FOUNDER.

That woman is not only completely insane, she's delusional too.

Newt is NOT a conservative founder and LP, which is read by what... maybe 30 people daily on average, could not possibly have any affect whatsoever on national politics.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-29   0:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ferret Mike (#42)

I disagree with you perhaps on the issue, but I respect where you are coming from, and an always willing to debate the issue with you.

It's nice to be able to discuss and even disagree without being disagreeable.

I do sometimes have a point blank way of discussion that many take as being adversarial, though that is not my intention. Usually. ;o)

We The People  posted on  2012-01-29   0:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: We The People (#37)

Welfare reform. Balancing the budget. Newt did those things.

Paul Ryan is a douche bag. His plan was timid. What do you think Newt was referring to that was "social engineering"? Maybe it is true.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-29   0:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A K A Stone (#35)

Newt is pretty conservative. What is liberal about him?

One of his first votes in Congress helped create the Dept. of Education.

Other votes helped create the North American Free Trade Agreement and the World Trade Organization.

These are all 'new ideas' endorsed by Newt along with carbon-credits, prescription drugs for seniors, and most recently a moon colony.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-29   7:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone (#45)

Welfare reform. Balancing the budget. Newt did those things.

And yet there are more people today collecting government checks than ever before.

As far as balancing the budget, you have to differentiate between the executive budget and the national debt, which grew with Newt as Speaker. Balancing the budget can be done with reduced spending, raising taxes or even shady accounting methods.

If the debt grew, there were definitely no spending cuts.

Paul Ryan is a douche bag. His plan was timid.

I agree. Yet Newt called his plan radical. That's what you get with Newt. One day he'll say one thing and the next day he'll say another, and he's been on both sides of almost every issue, saying whatever the audience in front of him wants to hear.

We The People  posted on  2012-01-29   9:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: We The People (#37)

His siding with Pelosi on global warming and co-sponsoring 418 bills with her, he supported the healthcare individual mandate in his book, "Real Change", he was the Southern regional director for the Presidential campaign of liberal Republican Nelson Rockefeller, he was a lobbyist for ethanol subsidy recipients, he supported the bailouts and said he would have voted for TARP, he supported the funding of Planned Parenthood, has promoted the idea of a "cap and trade" carbon trading, supports amnesty for illegals, toured the country with Al Sharpton promoting the socialist education policies of the Obama administration...

Yeah,ok,but other than minor little things like that what has he done to show he is a system tool?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-29   11:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: We The People (#40)

84 ethics complaints while Speaker

Ok,that one means less than nothing because the Dims and the RINO's were out to get him for upsetting their apple carts. In the end he was only found guilty of ONE TECHNICAL tax violation.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-29   11:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Thunderbird (#46)

, and most recently a moon colony.

I'm for that one 100%. Only a fool would ignore the future worth of the space exploration we do today,and being a fool isn't part of being a conservative.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-29   11:16:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: We The People (#47)

Welfare reform. Balancing the budget. Newt did those things. And yet there are more people today collecting government checks than ever before.

That's as true as it is that you can't blame Newt for that.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2012-01-29   11:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: We The People (#37)

Do I need to go on?

He looks like the Pillsbury Dough Boy with his soft flabby obesity and puffy red face, which also gives him the outward appearance of having high blood pressure, probably gout and the early stages of congestive heart failure. He also has a high whiny voice and probably a vinnie to match.

The perfect example of the unhealthy, over indulgent American.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-29   11:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mininggold (#52)

And he wouldn't be running if the Supreme Court hadn't destroyed good campaign finance law allowing an insane billionaire to spend ten million dollars of billionaire chump change on the insane notion he's presidential timber.

In any event, you would want a good VP John Tyler running with this repeat of William henry Harrison for the very reasons you point out. I'm surprised mistress number three can find anything in his white boxers to pull her interest from her battery powered self service number.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-29   11:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Ferret Mike (#53)

The supreme courts job is to strike down unconstitutional laws.

You libtards are the enemy of free speech.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-29   11:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#45)

Paul Ryan is a douche bag. His plan was timid. What do you think Newt was referring to that was "social engineering"? Maybe it is true.

Paul is my rep and while I don't agree he is a douche, he is a go along to get along kind of guy. There is no real backbone for confrontation and I've talked to him and his staff about it and that just isn't going to change. He's a nice guy but he shouldn't be the poster boy for Medicare.

I am opposed to Medicare. I am opposed to 3rd party payer. And I sure as hell don't want the feds fucking with my care choices. People would be a hell of a lot better off with direct pay and eliminate the millions of dollars wasted on bureaucrats including the insurance companies.

My doctor (s) know I pay on time and if I don't like what they are doing I go elsewhere. Does that get me into a hospital easily? No, but that's the place everyone gets pee new mo anyway.

harrowup  posted on  2012-01-29   11:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone (#54)

If everything is no longer disagreement but proof that someone is an enemy, then you are so far gone into fascism and insanity, nothing can save you from yourself.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2012-01-29   11:32:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#54)

The supreme courts job is to strike down unconstitutional laws.

Since Newt considers himself a constitutional scholar why did he create that PAC in the first place?

So in your world the only people deserving of free speech are the ones who can purchase it? Sounds like you want the US to become more like Mexico.

Almost every country in the Middle East is awash in oil, and we have to side with the one that has nothing but joos. Goddamn, that was good thinkin'. Esso posted on 2012-01-13 7:37:56 ET

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-29   11:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Ferret Mike (#56)

If everything is no longer disagreement but proof that someone is an enemy, then you are so far gone into fascism and insanity, nothing can save you from yourself.

Libtards assaulted free speech. So they are the enemy of free speech. That would include liberals like McCain.

A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-29   11:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: mininggold (#57)

You go first. You dodged this question.

libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...72&Disp=112&Trace=on#C112

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A K A Stone  posted on  2012-01-29   11:35:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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