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Title: Ex-Aide Says Ron Paul Is a 9/11 Truther & Isolationist Who Thinks U.S. Shouldn't Have Fought Hitler
Source: The Weekly Standard
URL Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs ... have-fought-hitler_614883.html
Published: Jan 2, 2012
Author: JOHN MCCORMACK
Post Date: 2012-01-02 08:27:43 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Truther, moonbat, kook, loonytoon, Ron Paul
Views: 67642
Comments: 125

A former Ron Paul staffer named Eric Dondero, who worked closely with the Texas congressman and presidential candidate over the course of 15 years, has issued a statement in which he both defends his old boss from charges of racism and anti-Semitism and reveals damning new details about about the "sheer lunacy of [Paul's] foreign policy views".

First, Dondero claims that his old boss is such an extreme isolationist that "he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that 'saving the Jews,' was absolutely none of our business."

Second, Dondero writes that that Paul himself is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist:

    He engaged in conspiracy theories including perhaps the attacks were coordinated with the CIA, and that the Bush administration might have known about the attacks ahead of time. He expressed no sympathies whatsoever for those who died on 9/11, and pretty much forbade us staffers from engaging in any sort of memorial expressions, or openly asserting pro-military statements in support of the Bush administration.

And lastly, Dondero reveals that Paul wanted to vote against the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 but lacked the courage of his convictions to do so:

    There is much more information I could give you on the sheer lunacy of his foreign policy views. Let me just concentrate on one in specific. And I will state this with absolute certainty:

    Ron Paul was opposed to the War in Afghanistan, and to any military reaction to the attacks of 9/11.

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#75. To: Happy Quanzaa (#71)

Go read the whole thread. Dondero has already been discussed extensively,

Discussed AND debunked.

"if you're not cop, you're little people"

Deckard  posted on  2012-01-03   9:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Deckard (#75)
(Edited)

Discussed AND debunked

In the Kool-Aid marinated TrutherTard/PaulTards' minds. Some may suspect Dondero was maybe deprogrammed by some of those people that go around rescuing people from cults. I thought the Obamabots were brainwashed back in '08 with their fainting, and crying with joy, and kids singing Obama songs and whatnot, but I have to give it to you TT/PTs, your numbers may not be as many, but y'alls craziness is concreted in harder than theirs, by a long shot.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2012-01-03   10:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: war (#73)

You do realize that they are referencing the cooperation of the National Security apparati of the US and not how the buildings fell?

Good luck getting him to cop to that fact.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-03   10:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Happy Quanzaa (#76)

Discussed AND debunked

In the Kool-Aid marinated TrutherTard/PaulTards' minds.

The fact remains that your "source" Eric Dondero has every reason to be bitter and vindictive against Ron Paul.

You don't seem to get that, instead you keep name-calling instead of addressing that simple fact.

Rules of Disinformation

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make  yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. 

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule.  This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger'  ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs',  'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics',  'sexual deviates', TrutherTard/Paultard and so forth. This makes others  shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

"if you're not cop, you're little people"

Deckard  posted on  2012-01-03   10:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Happy Quanzaa (#76)

n the Kool-Aid marinated TrutherTard/PaulTards' minds. Some may suspect Dondero was maybe deprogrammed by some of those people that go around rescuing people from cults. I thought the Obamabots were brainwashed back in '08 with their fainting, and crying with joy, and kids singing Obama songs and whatnot, but I have to give it to you TT/PTs, your numbers may not be as many, but y'alls craziness is concreted in harder than theirs, by a long shot.

Thankfully this is Ron Paul's last stand.

Lets see how much campaign funds he retires with.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-03   10:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Deckard (#78)

The fact remains that your "source" Eric Dondero has every reason to be bitter and vindictive against Ron Paul.

Wrong.

No evidence has been presented that Eric Dondero is bitter or vindictive toward RP, other than the 'everyone knows' variety by his die-hard supporters.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-03   10:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: war (#72)

It was hit by a collapsing building instead.

REALLY??? which building? You flat earth people are a scream...the earth is flat, the Tuskegee experiment never happened, the Gulf of Ton-kin is a conspiracy theory, free trade will help our economy, open borders are wonderful, there really ARE WMD in Iraq, seriously...the economy is GREAT...why, we're only 100 Trillion dollars in debt, and George Bush was lying about wanting a new world order. After ALL the lies that have been forced on you...why do you take ANYTHING they say at face value??? Are you THAT dense?

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   11:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Thunderbird (#79)

Thankfully this is Ron Paul's last stand.

...what you flat earth people FAIL to acknowledge is, this isn't about Ron Paul...it's about people waking up, educating themselves and understanding the globalists own BOTH parties. They give us their choices to choose between...just like the old soviet union...people had a choice, or course, BOTH choices where communists. The fact you flat earthers don't see what is happening, clearly shows your lack of reasoning ability. I would suggest you step away from the MSN... which are OWNED by those desperately wanting global government. Additionally, it will be IMPOSSIBLE for the RNC candidate to win without the support of the those that are awake...and that will NEVER happen. So I guess you better get ready for 4 more years of the Kenyan.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   11:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: freedomsnotfree (#81)

REALLY??? which building?

WTC 1 which was feet away from WTC 7.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-03   11:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: war (#83)

WTC 1 which was feet away from WTC 7.

...so you believe the governments "official" story?

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   11:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Deckard (#74) (Edited)

Remind us all again when and where you received your Master's Degree in Architecture and/or engineering.

Since when do I need one to understand gravity?

Some experts admitted that there were explosions in the Twin Towers, and others said there were none -- even though there are many eyewitnesses to these explosions.

There's a difference between being an eyewitness and simply hearing something. Not one "eyewitness" SAW anything explode after the initial impact of the planes which is when the infamous basement "explosion" occurred. They all HEARD something that sounded like an explosion.

Occum's Razor alone reveals that there was no reason to fly planes into the buildings if they were already wired for a CT.

It produces the required temperatures to melt steel and iron, which are twice as high as what office fires or jet fuel can produce.

The fires didn't NEED to melt metal. It only needed to compromise its weight bearing ability.

Neither theory accounts for the speed of the “collapse” or the forensic and video evidence, including the molten metal found at Ground Zero and the thermitic residue identified in the WTC dust.

A) You believe that the "speed of the collapse" was what?

B) That "dust" was found in apartments months later and, in one case, in Brooklyn. And a chain of custody was never established for that "dust".

Truthers are even bigger Moonbats than Berfers.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-03   11:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: freedomsnotfree (#84)

...so you believe the governments "official" story?

The official story reegarding what, exactly? Be specific when you ask a question.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-03   12:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: war (#86)

The official story reegarding what, exactly? Be specific when you ask a question.

9-11...that's pretty specific

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   12:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: freedomsnotfree (#87)

9-11...that's pretty specific

Bull.

Different aspects were examined by different groups.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-03   12:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: war (#88)

I didn't realize the government had issued a number of different versions/statements concerning what happedned that day...thanks for playing...

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-03   12:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: freedomsnotfree (#89)

I didn't realize the government had issued a number of different versions/statements concerning what happedned that day...thanks for playing...

Another refuge who has problems with the subtleties of plain English.

NIST

9/11 Commission

Are they the same source?

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-03   13:08:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Happy Quanzaa, Thunderbird (#23)

Thunderbird: Are the truthers just stupid?

Happy Quanzaa: If they weren't they wouldn't be Troofers.

You believe everything the government tells you?

Who killed JFK?

You think it was Oswald, despite every shred of evidence indicating that not only did he not do it, but he was acting as a low-level operative for the CIA...?

You believe the "magic bullet" theory?

Do you accept the Warren Commission report?

Do you believe the "Gulf of Tonkin" incident occured?

If you answered "no" to any of the above question, then it is not so difficult to understand why people might be unwilling to blindly accept the "official" explanation of 9/11.

Ron Paul has never he believes the more outlandish theories (remote- controlled airplanes, a Jewish conspiracy, et.al.), but he has stated that many questions remain unanswered, and there should be further investigation. Such a position is not in the realm of "Conspiracy Theory," but a well-thought out position.

[One need only look at the testimony of Sibel Edmonds, to start wondering whether all the facts were revealed.]

“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” -- Samuel Adams --

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-03   14:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Happy Quanzaa (#69)

.

PaulTARDS are alot of things, none of which are good, or AMERICAN, or even adult.

"It's the CULT of PERSONALITY ...

CULT of personality ....

CULT OF PERSONALITY!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-03   16:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Mad Dog (#92)

CULT OF PERSONALITY!

funny comment coming from a guy who likes to dress up as sarah palin and pretend it's a black athlete hammering his fat ass rather then the skid row bum who paid him a drink of sterno for some hot gay sex

calcon  posted on  2012-01-03   16:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: calcon (#93)

funny comment coming from a guy who likes to dress up as sarah palin and pretend it's a black athlete hammering his fat ass rather then the skid row bum who paid him a drink of sterno for some hot gay sex

Mad Dog posting away in Alaska...

...waiting for Yukon to come over and ram it up his poop chute.


jwpegler  posted on  2012-01-03   17:12:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: calcon (#93)

CULT OF PERSONALITY!

funny comment coming from a guy who likes to dress up as sarah palin and pretend it's a black athlete hammering his fat ass rather then the skid row bum who paid him a drink of sterno for some hot gay sex

What have I told you about posting while looking into a mirror faggot?

DON'T do it faggot.

It's WAY beyond your pay grade faggot.

Did your mother have any children that lived faggot?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-04   0:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: jwpegler (#94)

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LMAO!

SOOOOOOOO "original" dick licker!

LOL!

You two CUNTS really ought to get a room dick licker.

PaulTARD IDIOTS.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2012-01-04   0:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: freedomsnotfree (#82)

So I guess you better get ready for 4 more years of the Kenyan.

Despite your gibberish, I can't think of another candidate who's nomination would guarentee Obama's re-election more easily than Ron Paul.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-04   9:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Thunderbird (#97) (Edited)

the FACT remains...without the "Paul" votes, the RNC candidate CAN NOT win. Those are the FACTS! Lets just play your game though...lets say Romney, Santorum, Perry wins the presidency

1) is the TSA going to be dismantled

2) the IRS going to be phased out

3) the Federal Reserve phased out

4) unconstitutional agencies abolished

5) these fake wars ended

6) NDAA repealed

7) Patriot Act repealed

8) 1 Trillion in spending cut the first year

9) Obamacare repealed

See...it doesn't really matter if Obama or _______________ wins, NOTHING will change, NOTHING! ALL the players are owned, lock, stock and barrel by those wanting world government...except Paul. You want limited, Constitutional government, Paul is the ONLY one advocating that, you want world government, loss of freedom, crushing debt, endless wars, unaccountable government...vote ANYONE else...they're ALL the same.

And I disagree completely with you're premise about Obama being a shoe-in if he is head to head against Paul...I know a LOT of former Democrats that are waking up to the two party fraud also, they're VERY disgusted with Obama and like the freedom and liberty message Paul brings to the table. The fact you don't see the fraud doesn't mean MILLIONS of others don't...educate yourself.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-04   10:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: freedomsnotfree (#98)

See...it doesn't really matter if Obama or _______________ wins, NOTHING will change, NOTHING! ALL the players are owned, lock, stock and barrel by those wanting world government...except Paul. You want limited, Constitutional government, Paul is the ONLY one advocating that, you want world govenrment, loss of freedom, crushing debt, endless wars, unaccountable government...vote ANYONE else...they're ALL the same.

EXACTLY.

“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” -- Samuel Adams --

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2012-01-04   10:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: freedomsnotfree (#98)

Lets just play your game though...lets say Romney, Santorum, Perry wins the presidency

1) is the TSA going to be dismanteled

2) the IRS going to be phased out

3) the Federal Reserve phased out

yada, yada, yada...

Paul would be a dictator then.

Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1

We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-04   10:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: lucysmom (#100)

...no, Paul would simply be performing his OATH, something the others lied about, enforcing and protecting the Constitution...that means abolishing those agencies that aren't Constitutional. Don't they ALL swear to do this??

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-04   10:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: freedomsnotfree (#101)

...no, Paul would simply be performing his OATH, something the others lied about, enforcing and protecting the Constitution...that means abolishing those agencies that aren't Constitutional. Don't they ALL swear to do this??

Does the Constitution say that the President can eliminate what Congress has created - like the Department of Education?

Economics is a social phenomenon and in no way a “science”, no matter how desperately its high priests would like to have it believed otherwise. It is, instead, a branch of anthropology and the sooner that is recognized and accepted, the better off human-kind in general and the world of academic economics, in particular, shall be proximity1

We probably will see widespread civil disorder in the 1980s, as a direct result of our faltering economic system. Ron Paul

lucysmom  posted on  2012-01-04   10:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: freedomsnotfree (#98)

the FACT remains...without the "Paul" votes, the RNC candidate CAN NOT win. Those are the FACTS!

I'd like to see some evidence to support that absurd notion.

Thunderbird  posted on  2012-01-04   10:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: lucysmom (#102)

I find it ironic that he can declare an agency "unconstitutional" without understanding that the USCON explicitly grants Congress the power to create departments of the federal government and puts very little prohibition on what those departments might oversee.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-04   11:11:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Thunderbird (#103)

If you believe the RNC "chosen" candidate can win when Paul just came in 3rd place in Iowa, you just keep on fantasying. How is YOUR choice going to be ANY different than the Kenyan in office...I'm VERY curious!

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-04   11:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: lucysmom (#102)

if congress has overstepped it's authority in creating these agencies then it should be reigned in, and those departments disbanded. Is the dept of education one of the enumerated powers granted the federal government in the Constitution...no!...it is an issue that belongs with the states.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-04   11:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: war (#104)

I find it ironic that he can declare an agency "unconstitutional" without understanding that the USCON explicitly grants Congress the power to create departments of the federal government and puts very little prohibition on what those departments might oversee.

...so, under that pretext, the TSA, Homeland Security, the dept overseeing Obamacare, the NDAA, the Patriot act etc...are ALL Constitutional...In essence Congress could create a dept called the 3rd Reich and it would be Constitutional...I don't think so. Most of these issues belong with the states NOT the federal government...whose powers are limited and very well enumerated.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-04   11:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Thunderbird (#97)

Despite your gibberish, I can't think of another candidate who's nomination would guarentee Obama's re-election more easily than Ron Paul.

Actually RP has quite a Democrat following especially among those disappointed in Obama's continued war mongering. And they are registering as Pubbies in order to vote for him in the primaries.

Which is why your words don't match your actions.

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2012-01-04   11:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: freedomsnotfree (#107)

The Congress can create a department. What that department may do is then contingent upon the powers conferred to it as being congruent to the USCON. There could be a Department the Third Riech of the Congress so desired. That department may not create or enforce a relgiion, restrict speech or publishing, adminster cruel or unusual punishment, take without compensation etc etc etc.

There is only ONE federal department explictly created in the USCON. My money says that you don't even know what it is.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-04   12:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: freedomsnotfree (#105)

than the Kenyan in office

A Berfer and a Truther?!?

Tell me you believe in the Clinton Death List too...oh please please tell me it is so...

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-04   12:15:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: war (#109)

There is only ONE federal department explictly created in the USCON.

Without some research I'd venture to say Treasury...

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-04   13:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: freedomsnotfree (#111)

Post office.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-04   13:08:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: war (#110)

A Berfer and a Truther?!?

...not really. It doesn't matter where he was born, he could have been born on the white house steps. To qualify for president, BOTH parents MUST be citizens of the US...by obama's own admission, his father was a British subject, making him ineligible to hold office.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-04   13:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: war (#112)

I should have known that...THANKS War! I hate brain cramps. And on a side note...we may disagree on issues but I appreciate your courtesy and civility.

freedomsnotfree  posted on  2012-01-04   13:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: freedomsnotfree (#113) (Edited)

...to qualify for president, BOTH parents MUST be citizens of the US...

It is well established US law that parentage has nothing to do with citizenship in the US ecept in the very narrowly defined case of the children of foreign ambassadors and attaches.

US citizenship is based jus soli not jus sanguinis. It is also well established law that there are only two classes of citizens...natural born and naturalized.

He's natural born and he's POTUS.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2012-01-04   13:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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