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Title: Captive U.S. soldier Bowe Bergdahl 'recaptured by the Taliban after three days on the run following daring escape'
Source: Daily Mail
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... -Bowe-Bergdahl-3-days-run.html
Published: Dec 12, 2011
Author: Leon Watson
Post Date: 2011-12-12 11:50:03 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 39623
Comments: 59

A U.S. soldier held by the Taliban since 2009 has been recaptured after he went on the run for three days.

Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl's daring escape failed when a manhunt was launched in Pakistan to find him, Taliban commanders said.

He is now facing his third Christmas in captivity.

Sgt Bergdahl has been a prisoner of the Taliban since his capture on June 30, 2009, in Afghanistan.

Since then, he has appeared in a least five Taliban propoganda videos, one of which was released in May.

He is the only known U.S. soldier to be captive of the Taliban.

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Sgt Bergdahl, who launched a daring escape attempt, was reported to have adopted the Muslim name Abdullah, according to his captors

His captors found him three days later hiding in a trench, covered with leaves and virtually naked, according to the report.

The sources described Sgt Bergdahl, of Hailey, Idaho, fighting 'like a boxer' when found.

Quoting a Taliban source, The Daily Beast reported that Sgt Bergdahl told his captors that he wanted to find civilian villagers who would help him and notify the U.S..

But that hope proved futile as villagers had long since fled Pakistan's North Waziristan region because of the conflict.

Now he is back in captivity, Sgt Bergdahl is once more restrained at night and being moved frequently to avoid detection by U.S. forces.

Drone strikes have killed several senior militants in the area he is being held and sources say the Taliban is ready to make a deal to release the soldier.

A source told The Daily Beast: 'There's a fear that a dronecould hit the golden [goose].'

Colonel Tim Marsano, an Idaho National Guard spokesman based in Boise, was quoted in the report and has spoken with Sgt Bergdahl's family.

'There is certainly a lot of new information in that article that was news to the Sgt Bergdahl family,' he said. 'Any mother would be glad to hear that her son is alive and well at this point.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2072750/Taliban-recapture-U-S-soldier-Bowe-Bergdahl-3-days-run.html#ixzz1gL8ghwYs (2 images)

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#1. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

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May Captain Humbert Roque (Rocky) Versace and Colonel James (Nick) Rowe's spirits be with him in this time of hardship and deep stress for this Paratrooper.

And may he be able to escape again, this time successfully.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-12   14:05:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike (#1)

May Captain Humbert Roque (Rocky) Versace and Colonel James (Nick) Rowe's spirits be with him in this time of hardship and deep stress for this Paratrooper.

Rocky was in a class all by himself.

How freaking ironic is it that he planned on resigning his commission once his tour in VN was up,and becoming a Mary Knoll priest? That pack were/are bigger communists than the Soviet Politburo. I don't think he would have lasted long before they booted him out of the order.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-12   20:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike (#1)

That guy sure has heart,though. Good man.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-12   20:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#3)

Drone strikes have killed several senior militants in the area he is being held and sources say the Taliban is ready to make a deal to release the soldier.

You sign up with the military.

You sign up with a Racket designed to keep the Top 1 in power.

The Taliban are ready to deal. Make me POTUS and we're out in a week.

With Bergdahl....;)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-16   8:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

And just exactly why did we invade the Afghans?

You have fucking Zero idea.

Just like Bergdahl.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-16   8:27:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#5)

Tweeted by Al Jazeera journalist Gregg Carlstrom from the "end of Iraq war" ceremony yesterday, this shot shows two "full bird" Army colonels sitting a few rows behind Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki's seat. Under all the VIPs names are bunker assignments telling them where to hide if they were attacked by mortars.

Read more: www.businessinsider.com/i...nts-2011-12#ixzz1ghmnsZ3P

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-16   8:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mcgowanjm, sneakypete (#4)

"You sign up with the military."

Sneakypete was in Special Forces, a special breed of men. I recomend a book called 'Five Years to Freedom.'

What this thread is about is something that Nick Rowe designed the Survival Resistance Escape and Evasion course (SERE) Course to help American fighting men endure and understand the sort of horror the man this thread is started on is enduring.

He is not being treated like a soldier in captivity. He is not being treated with respect for his military affiliation, rank, culture and background. They are trying to break him apart and build him into as close a copy to themselves as they can.

Few can endure what he is enduring. What Pete and I see here (I have been through SERE) is someone who is surviving a situation that kills most men.

Nick knew Rocky would of lived had he had had SERE training. Rocky was special, and didn't bend a micro millimeter from directly and intensely resisting the extreme psychological torture and brainwashing he was subjected to. They eventually beat him and took him out and shot him. Nick was luckier.

He had been able to maintain a cover story that he was an engineering officer and bent just enough to keep them from killing him or destroying his belief in himself, his country, and most importantly his spirit.

Jane Fonda in fact was the one who nearly got Nick killed at the end of his five years of horror as a prisoner of the national Liberation Front in what was then South Vietnam.

When she was visiting the North they showed her a picture of Nick and she correctly IDed him as a Special Forces officer. It is a miracle he was able to endure what they did to him in revenge for his deception and was able to kill the man guarding him as he was being moved during pressure from U.S. conventional forces and escape.

This is why Jane Fonda is so deeply loathed beyond belief in Special Forces culture. When Nick was assassinated as a Colonel in the Philippines by communist insurgents I was at Fort Bragg and witnessed what it did to people there.

They had to use the Fayetteville and Military Police to guard against SF and other soldiers from going AWOL to that part of the world to exact revenge and to keep a lid on the chaos this created at Fort Bragg.

Special Forces is different than conventional military. We were always the red headed step child of the Army. It was never a career move to go SF. SF is never about public glory and ego. Accomplishing the mission and being left alone is fine with everyone concerned in SF.

If SF components go to a foreign land and are successful in their missions, the locals get the credit and glory and SF stays in the shadows and quietly leaves never getting credit for what was done publicly.

I am serious about the Book by Nick Rowe, it is well worth reading by anyone.

Pete and I know that war is not a pretty thing and people who get into SF never do it for the glory.

They do it because they deeply believe in something and are commuted to a sense of purpose unique to them.

Go to Netflix, search for the National Geographic special on Special Forces. It will give you an idea of what I am talking about and in my opinion is a must see.

First Sergeant Laine Morris with the same flash under the unit crest on his beret I wore, that of the 19th SF Group was a member of my first A Team in Utah. He is interviewed in that special by the way.

That is the best information I can tell you if you want to understand Pete and others in SF and the situation this man in the story in the header.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-16   10:35:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#3)

"That guy sure has heart,though. Good man."

He does. I deeply feel for him and his family and I profoundly wish him well and a safe return home to his friends and family.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-16   10:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: sneakypete (#2)

"How freaking ironic is it that he planned on resigning his commission once his tour in VN was up,and becoming a Mary Knoll priest? That pack were/are bigger communists than the Soviet Politburo. I don't think he would have lasted long before they booted him out of the order."

I wish he had gotten to live his dreams. He was an exceptional man and fully deserved the Medal of Honor for his service which still influences people in what his example has taught us all.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-16   10:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

Jane Fonda in fact was the one who nearly got Nick killed at the end of his five years of horror as a prisoner of the national Liberation Front in what was then South Vietnam.

When she was visiting the North they showed her a picture of Nick and she correctly IDed him as a Special Forces officer.

Ill need to see how Jane did that.

And to the rest.

I am well aware of the Combat capabilities of the USArmedForces.

It's debatable what I first picked up on.

My Dad's farming or his Navy Career.

I was immersed in Military Strategic Ops.

I learned it from inside the Top 1% POV.

And then realizing that it was worse than a crime, it was stupid

began taking it apart from a Soviet/Chinese/Latin American (in other words Colony/Empire POV).

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-16   11:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

He is not being treated like a soldier in captivity. He is not being treated with respect for his military affiliation, rank, culture and background. They are trying to break him apart and build him into as close a copy to themselves as they can.

Few can endure what he is enduring. What Pete and I see here (I have been through SERE) is someone who is surviving a situation that kills most men.

Everything in the above tells you exactly what the USSA has now become.

ThePOTUS can kill any human on the planet for any reason at any time.

Any American can be locked up with NO rights or review.

The 6 Waltons own more wealth than the Bottom 100 million Americans.

146 Million Americans are poor or close to it.

Corzine just commited the most brazen Corporate crime Imaginable and is still walking free.

Unless a Greater Corporate Crime is Flaunting Bankruptcy Law to benefit a single CounterParty (JPMorgan sold MFGlobal bonds at 5% discount to real time trade).

WTF are Spec Ops fighting for.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-16   11:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

The USSA is a Third World Military Dictatorship.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-16   11:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mcgowanjm (#11)

Corzine just committed the most brazen Corporate crime Imaginable and is still walking free.

Unbelievable.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-12-16   11:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mcgowanjm (#4)

Make me POTUS

No thanks. Barry Soetoro is a right-winger compared to you.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-16   12:30:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mcgowanjm (#10) (Edited)

"Ill need to see how Jane did that."

It's right there toward the end of Five Years to Freedom by James (Nick) Rowe.

She was shown the picture and she was rubbing elbows with the North Vietnamese and they did not explain why they wanted Nick IDed, they just showed her the picture wanting to know who he was and his name, and they provided the role he played.

Loose lips sink ships, and get men like Nick killed. She was a tool, but this showed how much of an arrogant dupe she was.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-16   12:39:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

Rocky was special

No truer words were ever spoken,but no type of training would have saved Rocky given the circumstances. He was NOT going to bow or bend,regardless. Rocky just didn't have any backup in him when it came to principles. He WAS what we all should aspire to be.

www.mishalov.com/Versace.html

people who get into SF never do it for the glory.

The few that do never last long. The typical SF soldier of the 60's cared about what his peers thought of him,and didn't give a rabid rats ass what anybody else though. I don't know for sure how it is now,but I suspect this plays a huge part in the selection process when it comes time to fill out one of the "High Speed" teams. The pros stay silent and let others do all the prancing around in public.

I didn't even tell anybody about being in SOG for 20 years or so after getting out of the army.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-16   12:45:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mcgowanjm (#11)

Why don't you just start out every post by singing a few verses of "The Internationale",comrade?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-16   12:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mcgowanjm (#12)

The USSA is a Third World Military Dictatorship.

Then why are you still here,comrade?

Why haven't you taken your carcass to one of the Communist Paradises to live,hypocrite?

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-16   12:50:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#18)

Then why are you still here,comrade?

Are you saying you're a fascist?

;}

I'm here, because my family left the 'nobility' of Europe.

We've been fighting for our own ever since.

And I've got Reality which is the Universe which is altruistic on my side.

Tyrants always lose. Always....8D

Rockstruh:

" The neoliberal capitalist order is on a path towards extinction. And it will, most likely, die ugly. But it has lived ugly as well. The system never worked as advertised…was more sales pitch than substance in its promise to increase innovation and deliver prosperity worldwide. Conversely, the set-up leveled enslavement to powerful interests by means of a 21st century version of company town despotism; e.g., workhouses, sweat shops, unhealthy mining towns and industrial wastelands where the laboring classes are shackled by debt-slavery to company store-type coercion.

This global company town criteria has inflicted sub-living wages, no benefit, no future jobs, yet the corporate state’s 24/7, commercial propaganda apparatus has the consumer multitudes of the U.S. convinced that they are "living the dream". As a result, great numbers still believe their oligarchic oppressors actually believe their own lies about freedom, liberty and equal opportunity for all."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-16   13:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#18)

The USSA is a Third World Military Dictatorship.

Then why are you still here,comrade?

And part of my family is First Nation.

You actually think the USSA beat us, huh?

Live with the planet or the planet will kick you off like a bad fungus....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-16   13:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#17)

Why don't you just start out every post by singing a few verses of "The Internationale",comrade?

Why do you have such a hard on for communists?

Think they're still a threat? LMAO

Look at DC and tell me Jefferson Davis would be upset by what he sees now....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-16   13:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

She was shown the picture and she was rubbing elbows with the North Vietnamese and they did not explain why they wanted Nick IDed, they just showed her the picture wanting to know who he was and his name, and they provided the role he played.

So the NVA told Jane everything.

Jane just nodded....seriously?

And a btw. Jane's got some weird Daddy/Hollywood karma going. Marrying Ted Turner then going to Jesus.

I don't think you have to worry about Jane being the downfall of the Republic.

Try cheney if you want to gnaw on a bone...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-16   13:29:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#14)

Barry Soetoro is a right-winger compared to you.

Barry is a right winger compare to the rest of the 99%...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-16   13:30:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Fred Mertz (#13)

Corzine just committed the most brazen Corporate crime Imaginable and is still walking free.

Unbelievable.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-16   13:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mcgowanjm (#22)

I'm not worried about Jane. And they did not tell her anything but show him a picture and asked her to identify him which she then complied with. She should of known better then to share information about prisoners, thus ignorance is no excuse when one does something stupid like that, so she deserves flack for doing that. She is indeed very lucky then Captain Rowe was able to kill his guard and escape though. Count on that.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-16   13:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mcgowanjm (#24)

I also will say one more time to reinforce one point, Five years to Freedom is a must read. It is one of a few books I have re-read and has a place of honor in my collection of books.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-16   14:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mcgowanjm (#21)

Why do you have such a hard on for communists?

Think they're still a threat? LMAO

Because they are all evil bastards that need to be killed for being the oxygen thieves they are.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-16   21:17:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#27)

Because they are all evil bastards that need to be killed for being the oxygen thieves they are.

And so we agree.

The ONLY people enjoying Communsism right now are the Top 1%.

Communism for the Top 1%. Free Markets for the Bottom 99...;}

"#2. To: nolu chan (#1)

Dec. 16 (Bloomberg) — The son of Libya’s top general, Khalifa Hiftar, has been kidnapped and is being held by a militia at Tripoli International Airport, the general said today.

Belgassim Hiftar, 30, was kidnapped as he drove to visit his brother Saddam, who was in a Tripoli hospital after being wounded by gunfire yesterday, said his father.

“My son is kidnapped, he is being held at the airport,” the general said, speaking to reporters in his fortified compound in southern Tripoli. “We have been making phone calls with them this evening, I don’t know what they want.”

The alleged kidnapping comes on the eve of a visit to Libya by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who said in Turkey today that the U.S. must give Libya more time to gain control of its militias.

www.businessweek.com/news...y-militia-in-capital.html

This is far from over.

Note Yemen, Egypt, Bahrain....the USSA MENA is imploding.

The Retreat from IRaq foreshadows exactly like the Retreat from VietNam.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-18   8:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#26)

It is one of a few books I have re-read and has a place of honor in my collection of books.

Eye problems.

Can't read books anymore.

So you have to get right to the point.

And let's talk strategic.

Like the Retreat from Iraq mirrors the Retreat from Saigon.

The USSA MENA implodes now.

Egyptian Library burning as I type.

Bahrain, Yemen disintegrating.

Iraq a painted corpse.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-18   8:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mcgowanjm (#28)

The ONLY people enjoying Communsism right now are the Top 1%.

In general,you are correct. When speaking to the west specifically,you are incorrect. What the ruling elites in the west are enjoying is fascism,which is communism's more mature brother and is maybe 10% less evil than communism because it is slightly less oppressive because it does allow a middle class. True,that middle class is totally dependent on the approval of the government,but it IS there.

Still,the middle class and their less unfortunate brethren the laborers (or "civilans" as cops call them) don't enjoy that form of government as much as they suffer under it. Even the middle class aren't free. They just live better and mostly don't know the difference.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-18   11:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mcgowanjm (#29)

Eye problems.

Can't read books anymore.

Have you given any thought to buying a Kindle from Amazon.com or a similar book reader? You can download books on them and then increase the font size to a level you can see.

The Safari (by Apple) web browser may work for you,too. It has a feature called a "reading list" that allows you to save web pages to it and then read them without all the ads or other clutter that may interfere with large fonts.

It also has a feature that allows you to show your favorite/most visited sites as icons when you go to bookmarks. Icons with LARGE letters showing the page name.

Safari is also a lot quicker than IE and Firefox. Be aware there is a learning curve to learn how to bookmark web pages,though.

WOW! Speaking of quick,my new desktop really smokes! I click on a link and it's open before I can get my finger off the send button. Blink of a eye quick. Dual core Intel 3.4 GB processor with 16 GB of RAM.

Now,if I can figure out a way to play old DOS games using WIN7,I'm in business!

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-18   11:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#31)

Superb suggestion, because as a read-aholic, I would feel like an important part of me was amputated were i unable to read books. And i feel one of the necessary and fundamental parts of making our Republic work is having people beng as well informed and educated as humanly possible.

It is the best inoculation against totalitarian demagoguery there is. I am deeply troubled by the ignorance and selfishness I see all around me, and i really worry about our future as a species, a world and the future of our republic and it's constitution form of government with the checks and balances of power that need to be respected and cultivated to make it work.

De Oppresso liber. Ignorance, greed and hate is the worst sort of oppression there is, and I will always fight it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-18   13:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ferret Mike (#32)

And i feel one of the necessary and fundamental parts of making our Republic work is having people beng as well informed and educated as humanly possible.

Your vote for Obama was a stab in the heart of our Republic. I would suggest you quit reading leftist commie shit and read something good for a change. Start with the Bible. This time try to understand it. Seriously Mike it would do you great good. Start with the Psalms and Proverbs.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-18   14:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#33) (Edited)

Your desire to engage in defamation of me for my fair and legal vote speaks of your own lack of respect for our system of government where votes are made on a secret ballot to protect people from backlash lie that you express here.

I am not voting for Obama this time around, and I support Ron Paul as I did in the primary season last election. I refuse to have my nose rubbed in my honest choice for president the last election, and I don't confuse anger and disagreement with another with how I feel about them personally.

In fact, if I did, I would have stopped dialogging with you long ago.

As for the religion question, I respect your right to worship as you chose, and in fact would defend to death the right for any religious group to exist and flourish.

You also speak to me as if I do not know the Bible or the Christian religion when in fact I most certainly do know it quite well. In fact i have purposely taken a class in Bible study as well as one on the Koran and make the effort to learn about and understand other religions as well.

I feel some religions focus too much on the management and control of culture and people. I am concerned with religion as it pertains to the sanctity and respect for all life, thus my personal commitment to Goddess based religion.

You may not like this and you obviously feel threatened by any religion that does not advance your own religious agenda, but that is your problem, not mine.

You have a lot of issues and a long journey ahead of you before you act and sound like the sort of Christian I love to know and in fact admire. And I wish you well on the journey.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-18   14:31:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ferret Mike (#34)

Start again with Psalms and Proverbs. You're welcome.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-18   14:35:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#35)

Already have seen it. Good luck in the journey to get a better understanding of what you interpret incorrectly about various parts of the Bible.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-18   14:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ferret Mike (#36)

I haven't misinterpreted you. You will vote for Obama come election day. Mark my words. You already voted for the baby killer once. You'll do it again. It is what you are.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-18   14:58:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#37) (Edited)

Read slow enough to comprehend, dude. I said you misinterpret parts of the Bible, not me. Though you yourself have admitted you like to not take the time to read what I have to say.

As for my vote, you are wrong, and I always mean what I say. He supported the end of Habeas corpus and indefinite detention of Americans so we have a deep and systemic separation of paths, him and I.

I may not vote at all in the presidential election and make my ballot one with what is called an under vote, but your snide comment is disrespectful and shows immaturity on your part. Which sadly is no surprise to see coming from you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-18   15:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ferret Mike (#38) (Edited)

I said misinterpret parts of the Bible

What parts my little furry friend?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-18   15:10:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#39) (Edited)

The parts I have tried in the past to tell you about how you misinterpret them in the past in here, of course.

That you never slowed down to digest that I have done so and where is not surprising indeed.

I will be happy to return to the particular scripture and discuss where you misunderstand and misinterpret it and why, and in fact will be happy to do so.

But not right this moment, and not in this thread. It woild be something too radically off topic for here, and I am doing more then one thing right now, and want to do that particular task when I can focus on it. And trust me, I sure am eager to do this with you and am not shining you on.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-12-18   15:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike (#40)

But not right this moment, and not in this thread. It woild be something too radically off topic for here, and I am doing more then one thing right now, and want to do that particular task when I can focus on it. And trust me, I sure am eager to do this with you and am not shining you on.

Ok fair enough my little furry friend.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-18   15:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Ferret Mike (#32)

I am deeply troubled by the ignorance and selfishness I see all around me

And it is a growth market, Many people today are PROUD of not knowing a single thing they don't have to know to live their day to day lives. They brag about it,and consider anyone that reads to be stupid because they are wasting their time.

Back when I was a kid being called ignorant were fighting words.

Then again,not many teens wanted to be gangsta thugs with prison records that brag about them and their 17 friends beating up a old woman in a wheelchair,either.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-19   2:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone, Ferret Mike (#33)

Your vote for Obama was a stab in the heart of our Republic.

He's got ya there,Mike. Must have been hard to fill in those little dots with your knee jerking so violently.

Not that voting for John McLunatic would have been any better. In fact,I was planning on voting for the Acting President myself if it looked like McLunatic was going to beat him in my state. A safe thing to ponder,since there are a LOT of blacks and idiot whites here that would have crawled across broken glass to vote for Barry if necessary. I know of one black woman in her 80's that was brought to the polls by her grandson to vote,and she proudly stated it was the first time in her life that she had ever voted,and was proud to vote for a black man.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-19   2:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ferret Mike (#34)

lack of respect for our system of government where votes are made on a secret ballot to protect people from backlash lie that you express here.

Speaking for myself,*I* have nothing but contempt for a government that will allow anybody to cast ballots so secret they aren't even required to prove who they are or if they are citizens.

And it was the Dims that pushed that and you know it.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-19   2:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Ferret Mike (#36)

Good luck in the journey to get a better understanding of what you interpret incorrectly about various parts of the Bible.

Let's get Old Testament here!

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-19   2:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#31)

buying a Kindle from Amazon.com

Thanx SP,

I've got a list of things to buy.

Like a new computer and monitor!

Wife uses Safari. I still like Firefox.

Zoom function is good enough.

And I just read less.

And double space. 8D Thanx again, Jim

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-19   8:03:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: sneakypete (#30)

The middle class in communism is called apparatchiks.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-19   8:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: mcgowanjm (#46)

Like a new computer and monitor!

Dell is having a hell of a sale. I think I got 922 bucks off on mine,but mine was maxed out with every upgrade they offer.

The XPS 8300 Dell desktops can be bought now for around 650 bucks,and this includes a LCD monitor and Win 7 64 bit software already installed.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-19   23:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mcgowanjm (#47) (Edited)

The middle class in communism is called apparatchiks.

"Apparatchiks" is a Russian word for "House Niggers".

Being a "House Nigger" may have been the equivalent of being middle class in the old USSR,but it's not a position I would dream of obtaining.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-19   23:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: sneakypete (#49)

Being a "House Nigger" may have been the equivalent of being middle class in the old USSR,but it's not a position I would dream of obtaining.

Me neither, and I've said as much.

It really pisses the Apparatchiks off...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-20   8:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: sneakypete (#48)

Dell does make the best monitors.

We're waiting til after Xmas.

I'll be going to the optometrist as well...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-12-20   8:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: mcgowanjm (#50)

It really pisses the Apparatchiks off...;}

Yup. They really hate to be reminded of their true stations in life. They NEED their illusions in order to have a reason to get out of bed in the morning and continue living.

Face it,we all tell ourselves little lies to get through the typical day without doing or saying something that leads to killing ourselves or someone else.

The difference is THEY have to tell BIG lies to themselves every single day.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-20   11:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mcgowanjm (#51)

Dell does make the best monitors.

No Samsung does.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-20   11:29:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: mcgowanjm (#51)

I'll be going to the optometrist as well...;}

Yeah,that's a trip I will be making in the near future,myself.

I can get the cataract surgery done "for free" at the VA hospital once I have lost 75 percent of the vision in both of my eyes,but the last time I went to the VA hospital for minor outpatient surgery I damn near lost my left leg because the quack botched the operation and my leg got infected. It got swollen to the point it turned black and purple,and burst. I am no medical authority,but even I know that black and purple are bad colors for a leg. The VA's solution to the problem was to give me a double daily dose of fluid pills and the cheapest antibiotics they could find.

This went on for a couple of months without getting better,so they suggested I let them amputate my left leg and they would fit me with one of the hi-tech plastic and steel legs that are made now. I told them to kiss my ass because I was off to get a second opinion.

I went to a local doc that told me they could almost fix the problem by using varicose vein replacement surgery to replace the ones the VA docs killed by sewing me up without sewing the ones back together they had cut apart. They said "almost" because my leg had already suffered damage at the cellular level because of the long delay in fixing the circulation problems.

But first they would have to kill the infection before they could do the operation. I had to go back and forth to their offices twice a week to get the bandages and the special silver-impregnated pads replaced before the infection cleared up,and had to do this for a couple of months. Once the infection was gone the actual surgery took about 45 minutes right there in his office.

By the time it was all over it cost me around 6 grand,but I saved my leg.

If the VA hospital had done this to start with or even told me there was such a thing,my leg would have made a complete recovery. They didn't do this because the VA hospital doesn't offer varicose vein replacement surgery.

This wasn't the first bad experience,either. The year before I damn near died because they cancelled my gall bladder surgery 3 times,and while I was waiting for the 4th surgery appointment it burst inside me while at home. Since the local hospital is only about 30 miles away and the VA hospital is about 65 miles away,I went to the local ER for treatment. Where else do you go at 2 AM when yuo are that sick?

The VA refused to pay for the surgery,using the excuse of "you should have had this surgery done at the VA hospital." And this was AFTER I was the one who told them I had a infected gall bladder and proved it by bringing them my ultrasounds that I had done by a private doc,and they had scheduled and then cancelled the surgery 3 times!

What freaking part of "emergency surgery" is it they don't understand?

The bill came to something like $48,000. Medicare paid 80 percent of it,but I had to cough up the other 20 percent.

To make a long story even longer,because of this experience I do NOT believe I am going to trust them to operate on my eyes.

ANYBODY who truly believes that socialized medicine is the answer to medical care needs to get ALL their medical needs taken care of my a VA hospital for 2 years. That will cure them of this delusion forever.

BTW,my left leg is once again swollen up so big it has burst and is leaking clear fluids. Every time it leaks a little I get a sharp,burning pain. When this happens I am unable to do much of anything because I am supposed to sit and keep the leg elevated while taking fluid pills,and to do NOTHING that could cause it to get infected again through exposure to dirt or sweat. The surgeon said I was most likely going to end up losing it anyhow because I am getting older,but that if I did my best to keep it clean and elevated I could put amputation off for several more years.

All this because the VA hospital doesn't have any money in their budget to perform varicose vein replacement surgery,and their docs aren't supposed to tell patients about procedures they don't provide.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-20   12:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: sneakypete (#54)

To make a long story even longer,

Interesting story. I used to work for a man who would always use that phrase.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-12-20   12:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone, mcgowanjmWh (#53)

Dell does make the best monitors. No Samsung does.

What is it that makes you so certain that Samsung doesn't make at least some of the monitors sold under the Dell name?

Do you REALLY think that Dell makes their own monitors?

BTW,my 1 year old 58 inch Samsung plasma tv has a picture so good it's almost scary. I bought it during the Christmas sales last year,and got it at a major discount off full retail.

BTW-2,Jim,you need to get a Roku 2 XS media player.

shop.roku.com/

People our age that have vision problems also have hearing problems,and you can use this thing to download free and rented movies and tv shows to your computer,and then watch them on your big screen tv.

Besides giving you a MUCH larger picture to look at that the typical computer monitor screen ,this model also offers closed caption in addition to the usual pause,rewind,fast forward options. Read the reviews and you can see this is the wave of the future because lots of people are dropping their cable and sat tv programming because it's cheaper and easier to just download them.

Yes,I do own one myself. In fact,I own two of them. One for my workshop.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-20   12:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: sneakypete (#56)

BTW-2,Jim,you need to get a Roku 2 XS media player.

shop.roku.com/

They're priced affordable. Thanks for the tip petey; I'll keep it in mind for future reference. I'm not a TV or movie junky yet but maybe I will be when I get old.

p.s Your VA horror stories will likely give me nightmares.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-12-20   13:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Fred Mertz (#57)

p.s Your VA horror stories will likely give me nightmares.

I could give some of my own as I used to escort disabled vets to the local VA.

"ROTFLMAO... Perfect! She longs... for someone to Teabag her. a man that squats on top of a women's face and lowers his genitals into her mouth during sex, known as "teabagging" She aches for it"... ~~~JWpegler. Head Tea Bagger and Tea Party supporter extraordinaire, explicitly expressing his fantasies in public about other posters.

mininggold  posted on  2011-12-20   13:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Fred Mertz (#57)

p.s Your VA horror stories will likely give me nightmares.

Mine are nothing special. I may even be luckier than most.

"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011

Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs

Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-12-21   8:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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