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Title: Godwinson Resigns
Source: libertysflame.com
URL Source: http://libertysflame.com
Published: Oct 26, 2011
Author: Godwinson
Post Date: 2011-10-26 10:22:45 by Godwinson
Keywords: None
Views: 27671
Comments: 55

The American right wing as presented here has degenerated into a KKK party in all but name.

This website continues to post pro-racist images despite requests to the moderator to remove them and since I visit this website in mixed company, I can't continue posting on here - even if it is to show how wrong you kooks on the right are.

I don't even think this web forum is worth hacking in retaliation, either. Just the same handful of pathetic conserva-kooks that can be pointed to and laughed at.

You are not a threat, conserva-kooks, you are a joke. All you talk about "2nd amendment solutions" and waving the Gadsden flags does not make you scary, but points out how impotent and all talk and hot air you are.

Resignation effective now.

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#15. To: war (#12)

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-26   11:02:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#14)

Something with a question mark at the end of it demonstrates an opinion?

It's my opinion that it can.

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-26   11:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)

I see nothing rascist about those pictures. At the time those were being shown Bush had already earned the privilege of being compared with a monkey. Or are you also a supporter of his endless wars?

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-26   11:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mininggold (#16)

I was showing Godwinson to be a hypocrite. People post bush as a monnkey. But you can't post Obama as a monkey or else hypocrites call you racist.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-26   11:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mininggold (#17)

I see nothing rascist about those pictures. At the time those were being shown Bush had already earned the privilege of being compared with a monkey. Or are you also a supporter of his endless wars?

I see nothing wrong with them either.

What about the video I posted? Obama gets a gun. It is in the same vein. Posted as humor.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-26   11:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#15)

So you can use HTML...big whoop.

If I put you in a room with a bunch of boxes and a banana tied to a light fixture, I'll bet you could figure out how to get it too...

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2011-10-26   11:08:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#20)

If I put you in a room with a bunch of boxes and a banana tied to a light fixture, I'll bet you could figure out how to get it too...

Yeah I would figure it out and eat it.

Godwinson would sit and starve yelling racist.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-26   11:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#19)

It wasn't funny nor was it in any way similar.

Stop being stupid. It's just another in a series of YOUR behaviors that denigrates this place.

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2011-10-26   11:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#1)

"Like the ones with Bush as a monkey?"

Ban both. Do two wrongs make a right?

He's right you know. And there are individuals that are not communicating anything but the desire to try to bully, with no one taking them to task for it.

Others lurking can see this, and it is a factor that keeps lurkers from becoming posters.

It doesn't get to me as I studied PTSD and it taught me that the normal respnse to bullying is to try to get the bully to realize their browbeating is wrong and to try to rationalize the behavior away.

The reality is they don't want to and won't unless firm, consistent and goal oriented moderation forces them to move it along from the empty calories of the constant personal attack into the mode of the give and take of lively discussion and debate.

Godwinson is a good man, hw has smarts, humor and compassion. He's even a Christian which you value highly. I wish him luck where ever he goes.

I myself have sometimes been too hard on him in his other nickname, but I have grown to like him.

IT all boils down to what do you want for your forum. Having conservatives around does not bother him not myself, but none of Mad Dog's posts have much content to them, and Eric often focuses on trying to drive folks away with invective and cruel verbiage. HQ and Gnu are notoriously racist, which even hurts the focus you have of drawing more conservatives.

No one who really like Mr. Cain for example is going to like President Obama's race being a main focus of the attacks against him, because the buckshot from such verbal volley hit them and draw their anger and disgust too.

You know as well as I do that Obama can be sniped at without using the race card. Because if you can't, then their obviously is not enough ammunition to convince people to deny him a second term.

As the election season evolves, I too see myself spending more time in forums where the heat inevitably rising in such a time is kept by good moderation on target and away from pointless attacks on someone's skin color, or is stalled on false charges about where someone was born or what their religion actually is despite facts that show this not to be the case.

Godwinson has a good point to his courtesy here of trying to do a parting communication with what is not working here and stunting your forum's growth.

LP is spinning out of control in increasing degree, and you could easily pick up a butt load of new posters. That forum I told you about is by a well loved FReeper who used to run a ping list that was the main forum focus during stories like the Klamath Oregon water rights fight that was in national news.

She sees what is going on and is positioning herself to exploit exactly that; to over a safe and productive haven to incubate and grow conservative thought, culture and discussion.

You could easily beat her having software that people prefer because of familiarity. But in the end, they will get used to her interface if the culture of her forum is safe and hassle free.

That is my take on it for you to take or leave. I have more than fifteen years of experience in political forums seeing what works and doesn't.

And it's not given to hurt your goals to get more conservatives here than liberals or anything else you want. And I know people who are conservative have privately and publicly offered you good advice that has elements in it of what I say here is the problem.

Take or leave my advice and observations, I never consider it to be my job to make people do what they don't want to do. I have my faults and foibles too; but I always work to listen to what others say in a fair debate, and to effectively communicate what I have to say in return.

When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-26   11:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#19)

What about the video I posted? Obama gets a gun. It is in the same vein. Posted as humor.

I didn't watch it and probably won't. Same as if Bush was the brunt. I don't need to indulge in every video depicting silly juvenile humor to get the drift.

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-26   11:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Ferret Mike, Godwinson (#23)

Godwinson is a good man, hw has smarts, humor and compassion. He's even a Christian which you value highly. I wish him luck where ever he goes.

I actually like him too. I think he comes up with wrong conclusions about stuff. But sometimes his heart is in the right place.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-26   11:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mininggold (#24)

I didn't watch it and probably won't. Same as if Bush was the brunt. I don't need to indulge in every video depicting silly juvenile humor to get the drift.

Well at least now you should understand what I was talking about.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-26   11:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone, Godwinson (#25)

I actually like him too. I think he comes up with wrong conclusions about stuff. But sometimes his heart is in the right place.

Godwinson often has a unigue perspective on issues that is thoughtful and refreshing.

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-26   11:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

That has to be one of the best posts that I've ever seen here...bravo, Mike...

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2011-10-26   11:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#26)

Well at least now you should understand what I was talking about.

If you didn't have the bozo feature then I might agree.

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-26   11:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

Very excellent post Mike.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-10-26   11:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone, mininggold, war, Ferret Mike (#19) (Edited)

I see nothing rascist about those pictures. At the time those were being shown Bush had already earned the privilege of being compared with a monkey. Or are you also a supporter of his endless wars?

I have resigned but will answer some direct questions towards me.

If not a racists post then it still a low brow post. Either way, why would I want to have this website on display if it is such a low brow content?

I will do you a two-fer. This website is either too racist or too low brow for me to hang out here. I mean, I like intellectual and challenging content and I get an adult man posting juvenile monkey videos as political commentary. Fuck you.

You mentioned Chris Rock. Rock's a comedian whose act is appropriate for the night club. You would look like a total idiot if you repeated Rock's jokes in a professional daily setting.

There is a comedy called "The Office", in the US version, the clueless boss, who is also maybe retarded, has no social skills at all, and repeats the Chris Rock jokes in the office to the uncomfortable stares of everyone.

The scene can be seen here @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEIM8IxL3Kc

The boss in The Office does not think he is a racist, but his public behavior is inappropriate to his professional setting - he is just too stupid to understand this as it seems are you, A K A.

"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-26   11:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#25)

You like him, and yet you show a lack of empathy or caring for his feelings with the title change. You really should allow the man the right to chose his own title. No one likes words put in their mouth.

And no one is right all the time. Not you, not me, not anybody. It takes strength and maturity to see that, it takes strength and maturity to admit one has made a mistake when one sees that.

When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-26   11:24:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ferret Mike (#32)

You like him, and yet you show a lack of empathy or caring for his feelings with the title change

His original title was this place is racist. That upset me a bit because I am not racist.

So I changed his title to" Godwinson runs away with his tail between his legs".

Then I reflected upon that, and decided that wasn't fair either. So I settled on this title. I also pmd godwinson to ask if he could provide another title that didn't call the site racist.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-26   11:27:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Fred Mertz (#30)

Thank you Fred, I appreciate the kind words.

When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-26   11:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone, mininggold, war, Ferret Mike (#27)

Godwinson often has a unigue perspective on issues that is thoughtful and refreshing.

My thoughts are standard way conservatives in most of the civilized Christian world think (outside of the USA and maybe UK).

It's unique maybe to Americans but that is sad if that is the case.

I said it a million times, my thinking is framed by European style Christian Democratic/Social Market ideology which is the dominant conservative ideology both in terms of party membership and geographic spread around the world.

Americans really don't understand how batshit crazy the American right sounds to the world. Sarkozy of France, a conservative, was puzzled as to why people were calling Obama a "nazi/commie/socialist" for pushing a health care reform that is standard practice around the world. In fact universal health care and the social safety net is a right wing invention, initiated by Germany's Iron Chancellor, Otto Von Bismarck as an antidote to fight socialists and communists.

"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-26   11:40:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Godwinson (#35)

Americans really don't understand how batshit crazy the American right sounds to the world.

Some of us do, just not the batshit crazy wing of the GOP which seems to include around 80+% of the party now.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-26   12:10:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#33)

"His original title was this place is racist. That upset me a bit because I am not racist.

So I changed his title to" Godwinson runs away with his tail between his legs"".

Got it, I didn't see that thanks for explaining what I did not see.

When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-26   12:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Godwinson (#0)

I don't even think this web forum is worth hacking in retaliation, either.

But if you could, you would.

You Commie-Leftists ALWAYS think in terms of "retaliation" when your propaganda and ill-logical aren't accepted.

Get Bent.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-26   12:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: war (#28)

Didn't see this when I answered Fred, war. Thank you too. Sorry to miss adding you to the ping box.

When Fascism goes to sleep, it has Mummy look under the bed for Ron Paul and turn on a night light to help keep him away.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-10-26   12:14:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#8)

Let the record show that you are not in favor of the first amendment.

In an ironic twist, this is true...

Yet you were generous enough to give this Commie a platform of which to spew his daily Leftist-drippings. What an ingrate.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-26   12:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Liberator (#38)

You Commie-Leftists ALWAYS think in terms of "retaliation" when your propaganda and ill-logical aren't accepted.

That's because you faux right wingers with your talk about fighting the govt with 2nd amendment solutions are all talk and all wussies.

You talk a mean game, wuss but in the end you just claim the guns you carry at protests are just for show. Impotence on display.

I absolutely support the hacking and disruption of all evil enterprises everywhere. Wikileaks did more to disrupt big govt than any stupid Republican/GOP-bot ever dared dream of doing.

"This is what economic policy in the West has become--a tool of the wealthy used to enrich themselves by spreading poverty among the rest of the population." Paul Craig Roberts

Godwinson  posted on  2011-10-26   12:16:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#9)

Ming: "So why also be a hypocrite, especially if you don't even believe your own assertions?"

That makes no sense.

No, of course it makes no sense - Ming's routine warping of reality never makes sense.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-26   12:16:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Godwinson, Destro (#0)

Sorry to see you go but I can certainly understand your concerns especially if others may inadvertently see the content on this forum.

IIRC, this forum is already labeled as a hate-site and blocked in many public access venues.

Destro may be able to provide more info on this.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-10-26   12:21:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone, LF's House Commies (#15)

HA! (are those Bush-Chimp photos??) Gee - where were the protests of "racism" from Godwinson or the other House Commies back then??

ANY charge of "racism" of 0bama's detractors is comical and fallacious, considering it is the Racist-in-Chief who is obviously the racist.

The Leftists-Dems ALWAYS project and accuse Republicans and conservative of engaging in what *they* do.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-26   12:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#18)

I was showing Godwinson to be a hypocrite. People post bush as a monnkey. But you can't post Obama as a monkey or else hypocrites call you racist.

Way to call out the hypocrites, Stone. Their flimsy case is founded on quicksand.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-26   12:23:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Godwinson (#35)

It's unique maybe to Americans but that is sad if that is the case.

I meant unique to this site.

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-26   12:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: A K A Stone, LF's House Commies (#25)

Godwinson is a good man, hw has smarts, humor and compassion. He's even a Christian which you value highly.

Lol - just WOW. A description from one self-serving leftist to another that's not close to reality - big surprise...

This guy is a supposed "Christian" Commie who hates conservatives, America, and the Constitution, one who routinely subverts the truth in order to promote his Leftist agenda?

Sounds suspiciously like 0bama as well.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-26   12:37:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Brian S (#43)

IIRC, this forum is already labeled as a hate-site and blocked in many public access venues.

Stone can thank Quanzaa, padlock, Mad Dog, and himself for that.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-26   13:09:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Brian S (#43)

IIRC, this forum is already labeled as a hate-site...

By whom? The 'Feral Bureau of Commie Propaganda'?

And in a another twist of irony, DU, KOS, HuffPo, and several Leftist propaganda/hate centers/forum are NOT.

Liberator  posted on  2011-10-26   13:19:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Skip Intro (#48) (Edited)

It's blocked for that reason in the Business Center at a Holiday Inn in Omaha as is tullloveschristinestitsbutdonttellhiswife.com

I'll believe that a corporation is a person 1 second after Texas executes one...

war  posted on  2011-10-26   13:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Godwinson (#41)

This place is as dead as a one-horse town. Now you've done it!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-10-26   13:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Fred Mertz (#51)

This place is as dead as a one-horse town. Now you've done it!

Naw, it's the Stone effect. People don't like having their titles changed and their comments deleted.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-26   13:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Skip Intro (#52)

Obama given a gun

This is one title he should change. Wait, he composed that one himself.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-10-26   13:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: war (#50)

It's blocked for that reason in the Business Center at a Holiday Inn in Omaha as is tullloveschristinestitsbutdonttellhiswife.com

I see that comment Tull made about you is still up. Evidently Stone thinks it's 'Free Speech' and worthy of being in every library in the US.

When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard

mininggold  posted on  2011-10-26   13:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Fred Mertz (#53)

This is one title he should change. Wait, he composed that one himself.

Stone prefers to change real titles from legitimate news sources.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-26   13:58:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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