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Title: Occupy Eugene Ongoing - Consensus model working so far [My home city's Occupy protest]
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eugeneweekly.com
URL Source: http://eugeneweekly.com/2011/10/20/news1.html
Published: Oct 22, 2011
Author: By Andrew Hitz and Camilla Mortensen. Ph
Post Date: 2011-10-22 17:00:35 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 66833
Comments: 163
People in suits and people in casual clothes, cubical workers and day laborers, Duck fans and tie-dye hippies all made their way from the Wayne Morse Free Speech Plaza down to the Ferry Street Bridge Oct. 15 around 4 pm to Occupy Eugene. The crowd of 2,000 beamed smiles at each other — and high-fived the Eugene police — as they marched in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street. The group has drawn together as a nonviolent movement for accountability that is not longer content to let “corporate and special interests run their government,” according to occupyeugene.com “We — are — the 99 percent!” some chanted at the front of the crowd of almost 2,000. Eugene’s Saturday gathering was the 11th largest occupy event in the nation. “The people — united — will never be divided!” chanted others farther back. “I believe in independence, true independence and justice,” said a young woman who gave her name only as Ariel. “I think there is a serious lack of that at the moment. Everyone here is standing for so many different things but, I think when it comes down to it we can agree on those two things — as Americans.” Lauren Regan of the Civil Liberties Defense Center said, “The group has consensed upon Occupy Wall Street’s demands, but not yet our own demands which may address local issues.” Occupy Wall Street’s demands, which include disavowing corporations as individuals, “are pretty damn clear,” she says. Regan adds, “This is a nonpartisan, very broad movement that includes everyone from Republicans to anarchists.” Occupy Eugene, like Occupy Wall Street and other occupy gatherings, is run by a consensus process that Regan says is remarkably efficient. The webpage downtwinkles.com, which features a video of a Cascadia Forest Defender at Occupy Portland explaining the consensus process, is becoming a viral hit. Occupy Eugene’s Saturday general assembly reached consensus on following the St. Paul Principles, which are principles of solidarity that came out of the 2008 protests at the Republican National Convention in Minnesota. The principles include not denouncing fellow activists and events and respect for a diversity of tactics and the plans of other groups. John Flanery, a facilitator of general assemblies at the occupation and a We The People activist who participated in the march, said, “I’m tired of the collusion between big business and government am no longer willing to be ruled by the one percent.” Cooperative efforts were made Saturday night by Food Not Bombs and The Last Stand Coffee Co., among others, to provide food and drink for those occupying; the more tech-savvy connected a live stream at http://occupyeugenemedia.org/livestream/ to the web. About 100 or so of the supporters have been meeting up on a daily basis for the general assemblies that occur at 7 am and 7 pm. Fewer have been spending the night at the occupation, but supplies like tents, sleeping bags and food abound, and a first aid tent is available. How long the occupation will last is a matter of community dialogue and coordination, organizers say. Theoretically, the Saturday Market will take place on the Park Blocks next week as usual. This has caused concern for some artisans from the Saturday Market, a number of whom made a showing at the Sunday evening general assembly. Occupy Eugene says there has been an ongoing dialogue between the market and Occupy Eugene. Embodied in a spirit of collective uprising and self-reliance is not only the recognition of a broken system, but a willingness to repair it, occupiers say. David Parziale, a senior environmental studies major at the UO, say this was the Eugene he had heard of before entering school. “I came to Eugene because I thought this was a place where there would be a nice mix of between university and the activism that Eugene has a history of having,” he says. “I came here because I thought it was a place where there would be people rising up because there were unjust wars going on. This, finally, after I’m almost done with college — this is why occupy is happening. There’s finally people trying to speak up.” 
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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
It's about time the left work up and realized they have been getting hosed as badly as those of us on the right. At this point in history the fight shouldn't be between the right and the left. It should be between the citizens and those who would be our masters and destroy our culture for personal profits.
What you say is so right on the money. Look at the French Resistance for example; French communist party members worked side by side with very rightwing people united in the goal of expelling the foul invaders. They were united in their goal, and brothers and sisters in arms against the German Nazi foe. Those we oppose want us to fight among ourselves and to be unable to form a united front. Right wing people are not my ememies in this struggle; they are my brothers and sisters in this battle.
Then lets stand together and rid the nation of the illegal aliens? Then lets stand together and prosecute Obama for war crimes. Then lets stand together and Get rid of Obama the man with a treasury secretary from wall street.
I look at Alabama where the draconian new law has created a severe labor shortage that is forcing farmers to plow under their crops and plan for smaller harvests next year. They have been unsucessful at the task of getting American citizens to do the hard work with low pay to get in the crops. We had slaves brought in from Africa to work for very little to keep costs down on Southern farms which for better or worse, helped this country prosper and grow. And now we have Latinos and Latinas willing to do the same for very little pay, we persecute and bedevil them for this. I want them here keepng costs down. Sorry, I am for amnesty on this issue. That won't change. You also forget they don't decide to come here in a vacuum. They are enticed here by people wanting the low cost labor every bit as much as they decide to come. Yet, many on the right only pick on them, because it's dangerous to pick on well moneied and connected people doing the labor recruitment. And as for going after Obama, it is pointless unless you go after those doing Neocon policy promotion on both the right and left at the same time. Otherwise you create an senario where the one percenters with most the capital have a situation that acts as a crowbar prying people apart getting them to fight among themselves forgetting who the real problem is in creating and perpetuating bad economic times. You can't fight side by side with people against a common foe if they are always worried about fratricide.
You must snort BullShit, because you are so fking full of it Mike. Americans have a hard enough time as it is fighting their own government corruption, taking back, and keeping what is ours, the last fking thing we need is the intire nation of Mexico swarming in here, breaking our sovereign laws, demanding every g-damn thing under the sun for free, at the fking expence of the American taxpayer...jobs my ass, that's what work Visa's are for, it keeps the system legal. They are here because they are too g-damn cowardly and lazy to fight for the same rights we have, in their own country. Why the hell should they fight? They're taking everything they want for free, including our sovereign land and taking over our government, all without firing a G-damn shot. A direct ACT OF WAR! They are kept here because of corrupt politicians scamming for votes, and son- of-a-bitchin TRAITORS like you. I'd just love to Slap You Stupid, but someone has beat me to it, you and your kind who'd give the last bite of food out of the mouths of your own family, and give it away to squatters that take everything that's not nailed down, in a country they don't even belong in. When the REAL WAR begins, I just hope you can drag yourself out from underneath your bed, that's when you and all those who sold this nation down the creek, that's when the parties and protestings and girlscout campouts are over and the REAL FIGHT begins, there won't be a stupid song you can sing, or some fking stupid sign you carry that will save your sorry traitorous ass, and it will be bloody, you can count on it. JMHO!
Meaningless tripe; When you misuse a word like 'traitor' just to snipe at someone with nothing to back it up, you discredit yourself. Not only have I worked quite hard most my life, I am a combat vet who served honerably. Your words are amusing at best, and have standing only as fiction at best, slander at worse. ;-)
Hardly. Murron nailed it- and you- with cold hard facts. You ARE a traitor, rat-boy. There is no other word which so concisely describes your true nature. I'm quite certain that Benedict Arnold made similar claims. I see nothing amusing in being accurately described as the traitor you are. You claim to have "served honerably," [sic] yet you demonstrate the utter absence of honor. When you strip away the clothes, toys, money or power, all a man has that is all his own, is his honor. Had you any honor, you'd already know that, but your lack of it, requires me to spell this fact out. Honor is doing the right thing, even when you think nobody else is watching. Honor is being able to look at yourself in the mirror, and be satisfied with what you see. Let me give you an example: Around 1999, I was working in Silicon Valley. Coming back from a Reno trip, I was sitting at a stop-light at around 10:30 at night, in the rain. The car diagonally back on my right- an mid-80's Camaro- had an explosion in the engine compartment- the hood was bulged upward, flames shooting out... I put my car in park, hit the flashers... I opened the doors, pulled out both parents, and dug the three kids out of the back seat, while the fire was consuming the front half of the car... The entire family was dazed, but except for breathing some smoke, they were ok. About two weeks later, one of my clients mentioned seeing me, during the fire. He drove by, didn't slow down. In fact, everybody drove by, and nobody stopped to help. My wife happened to be there, when the client mentioned it- and she was very surprised that I'd not mentioned it... I told her it wasn't something to brag about, it just happened. My wife said I was the most Christian man she knew. (I still don't know exactly what that meant, but ok.) And she expressed contempt for my client- because he saw what was going on, didn't stop to help, and displayed no honor. In your case, rat-boy, you wear your meager accomplishments- a reject helicopter mechanic among them- as demonstrations of your honor. The fact is, you pass these off as your badges of courage (or 'honer'), and you feel the need for people to notice them, because your words and your actions demonstrate you have none. At the end of the day, you're a coward, as most traitors are. You are too weak to have a moral center, so you cloak your weakness in a veil of righteous indignation for the various liberal agendas, to hide that cowardice. Oh, you pretend to stand for various causes, you pretend to be an upstanding citizen... But you're just another leftist loser, a traitor, and a parasite. It's interesting to note that you're a loser, even when compared to the relatively shabby standards of the left. BTW, I noticed you changed from the "gimme" picture, after I pointed out that your indignation with billionaires getting a sweet-heart deal is based on jealousy (that YOU couldn't be such a successful parasite).
Weasel gurl and the rest of the gibbering herds of libTURDS that infest this nation are ALL AMERICAN'S enemies. You don't "share" or "parley" with them. You DESTROY them in any and all ways that you can, (politically speaking of course). For AMERICA, and OUR ancestors and OUR children. "Come on you libTURD commie scum, come on NOW and git SOME!" F em ALL. WE ain't going NOWHERE. KMA
You don't "share" or "parley" with them. You DESTROY them in any and all ways that you can, (politically speaking of course). For AMERICA, and OUR ancestors and OUR children. "Come on you libTURD commie scum, come on NOW and git SOME!" F em ALL. WE ain't going NOWHERE. KMA Liberalism is a feel good idealogy, but after awhile, most, if they are smart enough, after the effects wear off, realize they were sleeping with a cheap prostitute, infested with an incurable desease, who covertly picked their pockets, robbed them blind, and stole their childrens future dreams, leaving them with nothing but hopelessness, endless debt, poverty, and perpetual wars. Liberalism is a seducer of the mind and soul, it leaves one intellectually and spiritually bankrupt, and infected with a life long hatred of tradition, morals and values. The Liberal or Progressive ideology is definitely a feel good political philosophy. There will be some (so-called) conservative candidates who will shamlessly court and sleep with these Liberal whores, scamming for their votes, watch for them. They are deceptive, perfectly, and diabolically willing and able to take all of us down with them, if we allow it. JMHO~ Murron
Liberalism is a seducer of the mind and soul, it leaves one intellectually and spiritually bankrupt, and infected with a life long hatred of tradition, morals and values. The Liberal or Progressive ideology is definitely a feel good political philosophy. There will be some (so-called) conservative candidates who will shamlessly court and sleep with these Liberal whores, scamming for their votes, watch for them. They are deceptive, perfectly, and diabolically willing and able to take all of us down with them, if we allow it. Liberalism is full of great sounding ideas such as inclusion, acceptance, dignity, equality, social justice, human rights, and diversity. It seduces the naive and the idealist with its promise of compassion and tolerance. Who doesn't want peace, harmony and justice? Who doesn't want to feed the hungry and house the homeless? Such simple sentiments stir the hearts of the masses. It is a slippery slope philosophy that sucks one in with statements that are hard to disagree with but the Utopian dreams lead to social engineering, the nanny state and the abandonment of common sense. Its taint touches every issue. It begins with calls for responsible pet ownership but soon leads to an animal bill of rights, pet guardianship and the picketing of KFC. Legitimate condemnation of brutal attacks based on hatred leads to homosexual high schools, same sex marriage, and gays in the military. Sympathy for the plight of migrant workers somehow compels us to accept and support the millions of illegal immigrants filling our schools, hospitals and prisons and the accompanying multi-billion dollar tax burden. The call for celebration of other cultures is revealed to be a mere mask fueling the fires of racial and class divisions. This dismantling of Western civilization continues unabated under the guise and tutelage of smiling bureaucrats. Far too many people inclined to the conservative cause have been lured into compromise and eventual abandonment of their creed by the sirens song. It is a trap too easily sprung upon the unwary, uneducated and even the occasional weary veteran of the culture wars. Overwhelming in its pervasiveness and unending in its preaching it is a difficult ideology to stand against. For those in politics or the public eye it becomes even more difficult. Principle is abandoned for practicality. Cooperation becomes compromise. Public relations become political correctness. And the path of least resistance leads to surrender. Even when one gets coy enough to pick and chose parts of a piece and change a few words, it is still easy to spot plagiarism my dear. http://floppingaces.net/2011/06/19/the-seductive-temptress-reader-post/ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2736922/posts
Plagiarism is a Mammy speciality.
Rule of thumb, if it has ten to twenty-five dollar word to it, no misspelling in the cut and paste parts, and bad punctuation, it is one of her stolen pieces.
The lack of spelling errors gives her away every time. It's as if Mad Dog suddenly started posting coherent thoughts instead of drunken rages.
Not to mention there is now software that checks for plagiarism. The new environment of the online world interfaces with the that of the academic has prompted the development of such tools. To the deep consternation of students with as profound a lack of ethical integrity as a Kentucky Mammy.
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#3. To: sneakypete (#1)
"At this point in history the fight shouldn't be between the right and the left. It should be between the citizens and those who would be our masters and destroy our culture for personal profits."
#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)
Right wing people are not my ememies in this struggle; they are my brothers and sisters in this battle.
#6. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#4)
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#23. To: Ferret Mike (#6)
They are inticed here by people wanting the low cost labor wevery bit as much as they decide to come. Yet, many on the right only pick on them, because it's dangerous to pick on well moneied and connected people doing the labor recruitment.
#27. To: Murron (#23)
"...and son- of-a-bitchin TRAITORS like you."
#86. To: Ferret Mike, Murron, A K A STONE, JWPEGLER, Liberator, Mad Dog (#27)
Murron: "...and son- of-a-bitchin TRAITORS like you."
Rat-boy: Meaningless tripe Not only have I worked quite hard most my life, I am a combat vet who served honerably.
Your words are amusing at best, and have standing only as fiction at best, slander at worse. ;-)
#130. To: Capitalist Eric, Murron, A K A STONE, JWPEGLER, Liberator (#86)
#133. To: Mad Dog (#130)
Weasel gurl and the rest of the gibbering herds of libTURDS that infest this nation are ALL AMERICAN'S enemies.
#136. To: Murron (#133)
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Liberalism is a feel good idealogy, but after awhile, most, if they are smart enough, after the effects wear off, realize they were sleeping with a cheap prostitute, infested with an incurable desease, who covertly picked their pockets, robbed them blind, and stole their childrens future dreams, leaving them with nothing but hopelessness, endless debt, poverty, and perpetual wars.
The modern political persuasion called Liberalism can be compared to a beautiful, seductive temptress. Alluring and destined to feel good for a while but after a fling with this wily ideology one is left realizing that the intoxicating goddess was more like a cheap prostitute. This seducer of the mind and soul leaves one intellectually and spiritually bankrupt, and infected with a life long hatred of tradition, morals and values. The Liberal or Progressive ideology is definitely a feel good political philosophy. As the Bible so wisely warns us to resist the temptations of the flesh so must we resist the emotional temptation and seduction of modern Liberalism.
#137. To: Ferret Mike (#136)
#139. To: Skip Intro (#137)
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#140. To: Ferret Mike (#139)
#142. To: Skip Intro (#140)
"The lack of spelling errors gives her away every time. It's as if Mad Dog suddenly started posting coherent thoughts instead of drunken rages."
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