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Title: Occupy Eugene Ongoing - Consensus model working so far [My home city's Occupy protest]
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eugeneweekly.com
URL Source: http://eugeneweekly.com/2011/10/20/news1.html
Published: Oct 22, 2011
Author: By Andrew Hitz and Camilla Mortensen. Ph
Post Date: 2011-10-22 17:00:35 by Ferret Mike
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People in suits and people in casual clothes, cubical workers and day laborers, Duck fans and tie-dye hippies all made their way from the Wayne Morse Free Speech Plaza down to the Ferry Street Bridge Oct. 15 around 4 pm to Occupy Eugene. The crowd of 2,000 beamed smiles at each other — and high-fived the Eugene police — as they marched in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street. The group has drawn together as a nonviolent movement for accountability that is not longer content to let “corporate and special interests run their government,” according to occupyeugene.com “We — are — the 99 percent!” some chanted at the front of the crowd of almost 2,000. Eugene’s Saturday gathering was the 11th largest occupy event in the nation. “The people — united — will never be divided!” chanted others farther back. “I believe in independence, true independence and justice,” said a young woman who gave her name only as Ariel. “I think there is a serious lack of that at the moment. Everyone here is standing for so many different things but, I think when it comes down to it we can agree on those two things — as Americans.” Lauren Regan of the Civil Liberties Defense Center said, “The group has consensed upon Occupy Wall Street’s demands, but not yet our own demands which may address local issues.” Occupy Wall Street’s demands, which include disavowing corporations as individuals, “are pretty damn clear,” she says. Regan adds, “This is a nonpartisan, very broad movement that includes everyone from Republicans to anarchists.” Occupy Eugene, like Occupy Wall Street and other occupy gatherings, is run by a consensus process that Regan says is remarkably efficient. The webpage downtwinkles.com, which features a video of a Cascadia Forest Defender at Occupy Portland explaining the consensus process, is becoming a viral hit. Occupy Eugene’s Saturday general assembly reached consensus on following the St. Paul Principles, which are principles of solidarity that came out of the 2008 protests at the Republican National Convention in Minnesota. The principles include not denouncing fellow activists and events and respect for a diversity of tactics and the plans of other groups. John Flanery, a facilitator of general assemblies at the occupation and a We The People activist who participated in the march, said, “I’m tired of the collusion between big business and government am no longer willing to be ruled by the one percent.” Cooperative efforts were made Saturday night by Food Not Bombs and The Last Stand Coffee Co., among others, to provide food and drink for those occupying; the more tech-savvy connected a live stream at http://occupyeugenemedia.org/livestream/ to the web. About 100 or so of the supporters have been meeting up on a daily basis for the general assemblies that occur at 7 am and 7 pm. Fewer have been spending the night at the occupation, but supplies like tents, sleeping bags and food abound, and a first aid tent is available. How long the occupation will last is a matter of community dialogue and coordination, organizers say. Theoretically, the Saturday Market will take place on the Park Blocks next week as usual. This has caused concern for some artisans from the Saturday Market, a number of whom made a showing at the Sunday evening general assembly. Occupy Eugene says there has been an ongoing dialogue between the market and Occupy Eugene. Embodied in a spirit of collective uprising and self-reliance is not only the recognition of a broken system, but a willingness to repair it, occupiers say. David Parziale, a senior environmental studies major at the UO, say this was the Eugene he had heard of before entering school. “I came to Eugene because I thought this was a place where there would be a nice mix of between university and the activism that Eugene has a history of having,” he says. “I came here because I thought it was a place where there would be people rising up because there were unjust wars going on. This, finally, after I’m almost done with college — this is why occupy is happening. There’s finally people trying to speak up.” 
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#100. To: sneakypete (#96)
Great post. AND entertaining.
She would never date you. You are a honkie. LMAO! Sheeet....Was Mike actually referring to Bigfoot??
Thanks.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Yup,and I do agree with him that she is attractive if you are only looking at her face. I won't go so far as to say beautiful like he said,but she is attractive. Or would be if you didn't know who she is or anything about her. Ever notice how some women are beautiful when you first meet them,but then start to get uglier and uglier every day?
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
666 voted for the antichrist
If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !
Sounds as subjestive as your views of his wife. I've been married to a African American woman and we have a grown son and two grand daughters. So, you go for your desired sort of woman, and I'll prefer mine. As for anything more on the topic, you know how I feel about family as targets, so end of discussion on her. It would be in poor taste to respond to your display in poor taste in comments about her.
Sounds as subjestive as your views of his wife. Where have I ever said anything about Ron Paul's wife? I don't even know if he has one. I've been married to a African American woman and we have a grown son and two grand daughters. I knew you had been married to a black woman and had at least one kid. I didn't know about the grandchildren. Do they call you Gramps Kracker?
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
That was uncalled for petey. You know better than that.
What was,the Gramps Kracker thing? How do you think the singer Uncle Kracker got his name?
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
If you were married to her first. You are still married to her.
One more example of your overt cowardice. You don't address the point, simply because to do so, would force you to face your regrettable lack of substance. My point- that you are a coward- not only stands, but is confirmed by your actions. DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- So you condone the murdering of wives.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
Another Asperger symptom, which is why most of you guys end up on the mail order websites.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
"If you were married to her first. You are still married to her." "So you condone the murdering of wives." In your case I could understand stoning... It's Biblical. It refers to abandoning (divorce) one spouce and taking another while they are still alive.
It's Biblical. It refers to abandoning (divorce) one spouce and taking another while they are still alive. Old useless handicapped women would take precedence.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
Is this a hillbilly combination of spouse and souse? Both would apply to you, wouldn't they dear?
Awwww! You lefties are ugly when you are being petty,mean-spirited,and hypocritical. Which is pretty much all the time. Where's the love? I bet you go around with a clenched jaw and a expression on your face that looks like you are smelling a turd mustache.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Awwww! You lefties are ugly when you are being petty,mean-spirited,and hypocritical. Which is pretty much all the time. Where's the love? I bet you go around with a clenched jaw and a expression on your face that looks like you are smelling a turd mustache. I must have hit a nerve. You betcha!
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
In that case, Ming, you should be at the head of the line.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- How would you know? Unless you are a stalker. But you need not worry, as I haven't had to resort to putting my picture up on Russian mail order bride websites, so you are safe.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
"Old useless handicapped women would take precedence." "In that case, Ming, you should be at the head of the line." LMAO! Someone told her 'don't grow up, it's a trap', and she believed them.
Even if you did, being old and useless won't get you a lot of interest. Which of course, is why you're so bitter, already. But don't feel *too* bad, Ming... Useless is a typical leftist trait, so you have plenty of company.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- LOL Do you ALWAYS have to call in your posting buddies when you are getting slapped?
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
Which of course, is why you're so bitter, already. But don't feel *too* bad, Ming... Useless is a typical leftist trait, so you have plenty of company. Stop confusing your Russian wife with someone else who doesn't give a shit.
When the people are afraid, that's when the greatest long term money is made.~~~~Clark Howard
Let's see... my wife speaks three languages, is highly educated, a good mother, an excellent manager, is street-savvy, understands economics, is tough as nails (when needs be)... and this is all wrapped in a very attractive package. What makes you think I'd EVER mistake her for YOU? LMAO.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- You seem obsessed with Russian women. Your former husband kick you to the curb for one? Don't blame the Russian women. If they hadn't be available he would have probably exchanged you for a blow-up doll.
"It is impossible to talk reason with those who can only parrot Party Slogans." sneakypete Sept 2011 Stay Hungry...Stay Foolish --Steve Jobs Steve Jobs,life-long Dim,and major Barry Soetoro supporter.
Actually, I see you have serious mental health issues thus I feel sorry for you. Your insults and attempt to take emotional hostages is a game I've seen many times. It does not affect or impress me. I wish you the best and hope you recover from your affliction.
With no evidence to back up your claims, such pronouncements are meaningless. My observations of your erratic behavior, you incapability to acknowledge reality and your willful ignorance, are not insults. They're merely observations, and extrapolated conclusions, based on logic. Whether those observations and reasonable conclusions- I'm quite certain- don't affect you. You prefer delusions to reality. Reality itself does not affect or impress you. You're a sick individual. Your posts demonstrate this fact daily. Trying to label me with the affliction that you suffer, is straight out of the Rules for Radicals, as well as the natural defense of delusional people. LOL
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- LMAO! Talk about b!tch-slapping Ming... Too funny.
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- Weasel gurl and the rest of the gibbering herds of libTURDS that infest this nation are ALL AMERICAN'S enemies. You don't "share" or "parley" with them. You DESTROY them in any and all ways that you can, (politically speaking of course). For AMERICA, and OUR ancestors and OUR children. "Come on you libTURD commie scum, come on NOW and git SOME!" F em ALL. WE ain't going NOWHERE. KMA
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Whan all your posts are cold, angry, heartless collections of invective and insults you get what you pay for Erica. I am always ready to agree to disagree and respect opposing viewpoints. But you, you sound like you went through the Waffen S.S. school for charm and public relations techniques. You never come across sounding like a human being. I can do without a Borg Queen obsession to assimulate or destroy, or a Hannibal Lector appetite for looking as those disagreed with as fit only for the meat department. I am glad I am not you, but have a nice rest of the afternoon anyway. ;-)
Hey Steve. Nolu Chan has ripped you apart better than I could ever do in some ways. And I just want you to know how much I enjoy seeing you squirm in pain ans drunken embarrassment. ;-D
You don't "share" or "parley" with them. You DESTROY them in any and all ways that you can, (politically speaking of course). For AMERICA, and OUR ancestors and OUR children. "Come on you libTURD commie scum, come on NOW and git SOME!" F em ALL. WE ain't going NOWHERE. KMA Liberalism is a feel good idealogy, but after awhile, most, if they are smart enough, after the effects wear off, realize they were sleeping with a cheap prostitute, infested with an incurable desease, who covertly picked their pockets, robbed them blind, and stole their childrens future dreams, leaving them with nothing but hopelessness, endless debt, poverty, and perpetual wars. Liberalism is a seducer of the mind and soul, it leaves one intellectually and spiritually bankrupt, and infected with a life long hatred of tradition, morals and values. The Liberal or Progressive ideology is definitely a feel good political philosophy. There will be some (so-called) conservative candidates who will shamlessly court and sleep with these Liberal whores, scamming for their votes, watch for them. They are deceptive, perfectly, and diabolically willing and able to take all of us down with them, if we allow it. JMHO~ Murron
Were you intellectually honest, then I might agree with you. However, your mode of operation is consistently intellectually dishonest. In other words, you LIE. You attempt to manipulate the meaning of words to be the exact opposite of reality. This isn't a new technique- Richard Weaver stated it best: I do not allow the lies to stand. I will challenge you, expose you for your lies. I have no respect for liars and cheats; you're no different. I see no reason to soothe your meager feelings; I say it like it IS. If being honest is so repugnant to you, why did you choose to tuck your tail between your legs, and come crawling back to this forum?
DUMMY DwarF: ...I'm eating a meatball... "Whenver the dwarf sees something negative about a Democrat, he tries to change the topic of the thread to something else. Usually a personal attack, followed by mutterings about correct 'grammar' 'spelling' whatever. Anything he can think of to avoid a discussion about a Democrat screwing up or looking bad. It's a decade long pattern." --Badeye observation-- And you only bark bark bark bark on the Internet, because to you, it's a cheap way to get your tiny rocks off. As for 'crawling back to the forum,' I neither asked Stone to ban or reinstate me. To me the account is what it is. If it's on I'll use it, if it's off, I go to the KOS, DU, 4UM, or any one of the other forums I post on. I have my arguments with Stone and we piss each other off quite well time to time, but I actually like the guy on the personal level and I do believe he feels much the same way. We knew each other well before he started this place up, and I work to add to it, not detract. You get back from me what you give. I have been an 'in your fucking face' protestor who works well in a group or by myself. I have been in the paper and TV locally enough when I have done my thing I am always dealing with more people who know me then I know. Which was the main consideration when I first identified myself as by my real name back in the late 1990s when I was a major thorn in some people's side. I have a degree of course and am doing school online, and am usually up before dawn reading, writing or talking to someone online elsewhere in the country that is far enough east their day is well underway. I don't care if you like me, and I am never intimidated nor rattled by you. I have dealt with far worse than you right up eyeball to eyeball. And I am talking about people who dislike me far worse than you do. I am taking a day off right now from Occupy Eugene as we have had a stressful but fairly productive week. We are going into the active cycle of some pretty intense election and environmental action work this up coming year. So, enjoy my august presence here while you can. Because most of what I do in regards to the expression of political efficacy is real time work. To me, the forum stuff is entertainment; more of a shadow boxing workout compared to the real life event ring.
Liberalism is a seducer of the mind and soul, it leaves one intellectually and spiritually bankrupt, and infected with a life long hatred of tradition, morals and values. The Liberal or Progressive ideology is definitely a feel good political philosophy. There will be some (so-called) conservative candidates who will shamlessly court and sleep with these Liberal whores, scamming for their votes, watch for them. They are deceptive, perfectly, and diabolically willing and able to take all of us down with them, if we allow it. Liberalism is full of great sounding ideas such as inclusion, acceptance, dignity, equality, social justice, human rights, and diversity. It seduces the naive and the idealist with its promise of compassion and tolerance. Who doesn't want peace, harmony and justice? Who doesn't want to feed the hungry and house the homeless? Such simple sentiments stir the hearts of the masses. It is a slippery slope philosophy that sucks one in with statements that are hard to disagree with but the Utopian dreams lead to social engineering, the nanny state and the abandonment of common sense. Its taint touches every issue. It begins with calls for responsible pet ownership but soon leads to an animal bill of rights, pet guardianship and the picketing of KFC. Legitimate condemnation of brutal attacks based on hatred leads to homosexual high schools, same sex marriage, and gays in the military. Sympathy for the plight of migrant workers somehow compels us to accept and support the millions of illegal immigrants filling our schools, hospitals and prisons and the accompanying multi-billion dollar tax burden. The call for celebration of other cultures is revealed to be a mere mask fueling the fires of racial and class divisions. This dismantling of Western civilization continues unabated under the guise and tutelage of smiling bureaucrats. Far too many people inclined to the conservative cause have been lured into compromise and eventual abandonment of their creed by the sirens song. It is a trap too easily sprung upon the unwary, uneducated and even the occasional weary veteran of the culture wars. Overwhelming in its pervasiveness and unending in its preaching it is a difficult ideology to stand against. For those in politics or the public eye it becomes even more difficult. Principle is abandoned for practicality. Cooperation becomes compromise. Public relations become political correctness. And the path of least resistance leads to surrender. Even when one gets coy enough to pick and chose parts of a piece and change a few words, it is still easy to spot plagiarism my dear. http://floppingaces.net/2011/06/19/the-seductive-temptress-reader-post/ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2736922/posts
Plagiarism is a Mammy speciality.
Indeed. And ferreting stuff out is one of mine.
Rule of thumb, if it has ten to twenty-five dollar word to it, no misspelling in the cut and paste parts, and bad punctuation, it is one of her stolen pieces.
The lack of spelling errors gives her away every time. It's as if Mad Dog suddenly started posting coherent thoughts instead of drunken rages.
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#101. To: sneakypete (#96)
("In any event, being a beautiful woman with smarts would make me happy to have a date with her were she single. ;-)")
#102. To: Liberator (#100)
#103. To: Liberator (#101)
Sheeet....Was Mike actually referring to Bigfoot??
#104. To: Ferret Mike (#64)
my vote for President Obama
#105. To: sneakypete (#75)
"He ain't going to win,though. No matter that he is more right on the important issues than the other candidates,he has all the personal charisma of a corpse."
#106. To: Ferret Mike (#105)
"He ain't going to win,though. No matter that he is more right on the important issues than the other candidates,he has all the personal charisma of a corpse."
#107. To: sneakypete (#106)
#108. To: Fred Mertz (#107)
That was uncalled for petey. You know better than that.
#109. To: Ferret Mike (#105)
I've been married to a African American woman and we have a grown son and two grand daughters.
#110. To: Ferret Mike (#91)
Actually, people who bark at others on the Internet like a nuetered dog chained to the porch with that level of ignorant [sic] you show here don't even make a mark on my radar.
Check-mate.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff? 
#111. To: A K A Stone (#109)
If you were married to her first. You are still married to her.
#112. To: sneakypete (#103)
Ever notice how some women are beautiful when you first meet them,but then start to get uglier and uglier every day?
#113. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#111)
#114. To: Murron (#113)
In your case I could understand stoning...
#115. To: Murron (#113)
It refers to abandoning (divorce) one spouce
#116. To: mininggold (#112)
Another Asperger symptom, which is why most of you guys end up on the mail order websites.
#117. To: sneakypete (#116)
"Another Asperger symptom, which is why most of you guys end up on the mail order websites."
#118. To: mininggold, murron (#114)
Old useless handicapped women would take precedence.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#119. To: Capitalist Eric (#118)
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In that case, Ming, you should be at the head of the line.
#120. To: Capitalist Eric, mininggold (#118)
#121. To: mininggold (#119)
I haven't had to resort to putting my picture up on Russian mail order bride websites
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#122. To: Murron (#120)
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LMAO! Someone told her 'don't grow up, it's a trap', and she believed them.
#123. To: Capitalist Eric (#121)
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Even if you did, being old and useless won't get you a lot of interest.
#124. To: mininggold (#123)
Stop confusing your Russian wife with someone else who doesn't give a shit.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#125. To: Capitalist Eric (#110)
#126. To: mininggold (#119)
I haven't had to resort to putting my picture up on Russian mail order bride websites, so you are safe.
#127. To: Capitalist Eric (#110)
"You don't address the point, simply because to do so, would force you to face your regrettable lack of substance."
#128. To: Ferret Mike (#127)
Actually, I see you have serious mental health issues thus I feel sorry for you.
Your insults and attempt to take emotional hostages is a game I've seen many times. It does not affect or impress me.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#129. To: sneakypete (#126)
You seem obsessed with Russian women. Your former husband kick you to the curb for one? Don't blame the Russian women. If they hadn't be available he would have probably exchanged you for a blow-up doll.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#130. To: Capitalist Eric, Murron, A K A STONE, JWPEGLER, Liberator (#86)
#131. To: Capitalist Eric (#128)
"With no evidence to back up your claims, such pronouncements are meaningless."
#132. To: Mad Dog, noly chan (#130)
#133. To: Mad Dog (#130)
Weasel gurl and the rest of the gibbering herds of libTURDS that infest this nation are ALL AMERICAN'S enemies.
#134. To: Ferret Mike (#131)
I am always ready to agree to disagree and respect opposing viewpoints.
“It has been agreed that ‘sweet’ stands for one kind of sensory response, and ‘sour’ for a very different one, and nobody can singly on his own volition switch these two around, anymore than he could tell the clerk in a store that in his lexicon five is more than ten that therefore he ought to have change for his five dollar bill when he made a ten dollar purchase.” (Weaver, The Stategy of Words, 1962)
But you, you sound like you went through the Waffen S.S. school for charm and public relations techniques.
Capitalist Eric: Foreplay before the president's staff?
#135. To: Capitalist Eric (#134)
#136. To: Murron (#133)
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Liberalism is a feel good idealogy, but after awhile, most, if they are smart enough, after the effects wear off, realize they were sleeping with a cheap prostitute, infested with an incurable desease, who covertly picked their pockets, robbed them blind, and stole their childrens future dreams, leaving them with nothing but hopelessness, endless debt, poverty, and perpetual wars.
The modern political persuasion called Liberalism can be compared to a beautiful, seductive temptress. Alluring and destined to feel good for a while but after a fling with this wily ideology one is left realizing that the intoxicating goddess was more like a cheap prostitute. This seducer of the mind and soul leaves one intellectually and spiritually bankrupt, and infected with a life long hatred of tradition, morals and values. The Liberal or Progressive ideology is definitely a feel good political philosophy. As the Bible so wisely warns us to resist the temptations of the flesh so must we resist the emotional temptation and seduction of modern Liberalism.
#137. To: Ferret Mike (#136)
#138. To: Skip Intro (#137)
#139. To: Skip Intro (#137)
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#140. To: Ferret Mike (#139)
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