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Title: 'I am a girl': The plight of Tammy, the adopted son of two lesbians who started sex change aged 8 because he has always maintained he is a girl
Source: Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... ormone-blocking-treatment.html
Published: Sep 29, 2011
Author: John Stevens
Post Date: 2011-09-29 22:29:04 by Sebastian
Keywords: None
Views: 122439
Comments: 212

  • 'As soon as we let him put on a dress his personality changed to a very happy little girl thrilled to be alive'

A boy who started the process of changing sex at age eight has told how he always knew he was meant to be a girl.

Thomas Lobel, who now calls himself Tammy, is undergoing controversial hormone blocking treatment in Berkeley, California to stop him going through puberty as a boy.

His two lesbian mothers, who adopted him aged two, say that they have been criticised by friends and family, but insist they have not forced their son to become a girl.

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Therapy: Thomas Lobel, who now calls himself Tammy, is undergoing controversial hormone blocking treatment

Therapy: Thomas Lobel, who now calls himself Tammy, is undergoing controversial hormone blocking treatment

Enlarge   No pressure: The boy's two lesbian adopted mothers say that they have not forced their son to become a girl

No pressure: The boy's two lesbian adopted mothers, Debra, left, and Pauline, right, say that they have not forced their son to become a girl

They say that one of the first things he told them when he learnt sign language aged three, learned because of a speech impediment, was, 'I am a girl'.

Tammy, now 11, wears dresses and effectively lives as a girl.

His parents, Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel, say that their son, who they claim was depressed at a younger age and threatened to chop of his own penis, is now much happier.

The couple were married in 1990 by a rabbi, according to Pauline's Facebook page, and have two older sons and grandchildren.

Thomas Lobel
Thomas Lobel

PROUD MOM: Two photos of Tammy from one of Pauline's Facebook albums called 'My Sweet Sweet Princess'

Here is Tammy with her mothers and older brother Edgar at his recent bar mitzvah. Mother Pauline said Tammy was shy and unhappy as a boy when compared to her older, outgoing brothers

Here is Tammy with her mothers and older brother Edgar at his recent bar mitzvah. Mother Pauline said Tammy was shy and unhappy as a boy when compared to her older, outgoing brothers

Unlike his older brothers who are both described at outgoing and athletic, Thomas liked to read Wonder Woman comic books and play with dolls.

He shunned baseball hats, preferring rhinestone hair accessories.

At age seven, after threatening genital mutilation on himself, therapists and psychiatrists diagnosed Tammy with gender identity disorder.

A year later his parents allowed him to start the first step of his transition to becoming female by letting him pick his own clothes and wear bras.

Tammy Lobel
Tammy Lobel

Tammy favor headbands to baseball hats and picked out bras and dresses to start wearing when given choice in clothing to wear

'As soon as we let him put on a dress, his personality changed from a very sad kid who sat still, didn't do much of anything to a very happy little girl who was thrilled to be alive,' one mother Pauline told CNN.

This summer, Tammy started taking hormone-blocking drugs, which will stop him from experiencing puberty.

The hormone-suppressant will postpone the 11-year-old developing broad shoulders, deep voice and facial hair.The diagnosis has been hard to accept for Tammy's parents, but they insist their sexuality has nothing to do with it.

As Pauline said, people think 'we're pushing her to do this. I'm a lesbian. My partner is a lesbian. That suddenly falls into the fold: "Oh, you want her to be part of the lifestyle you guys live".'

Unhappy: Tammy was adopted aged two by Debra Lobel and Pauline Moreno

Unhappy: Tammy was adopted aged two by Debra Lobel and Pauline Moreno

But they insist that is not the case and the decision has been difficult.

His parents say the hormone treatment will give him time to figure out if he wants to fully transition to being female or go through puberty as a boy.

 

If he chooses to stop taking the drugs, he will undergo natural male puberty at a later stage and his future fertility would not be impacted.

Should he decide to transition to an adult female, he can take female hormones as well, which would raise his voice, grow breasts and develop other feminine physical characteristics.

Pauline and Debra have been married since 1990, when they were joined in a commitment ceremony by their rabbi

Pauline and Debra have been married since 1990, when they were joined in a commitment ceremony by their rabbi

San Francisco, right by Berkeley, is one of four cities in the United States with a hospital that has a program for transgender children.

The University of California San Francisco is home to the Center of Excellence for Transgender Health.

Children are seen at length by mental health professionals and then treated by pediatric endocrinologists.

Others cities with youth programs are Boston, Seattle and Los Angeles.

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#11. To: Sebastian (#0)

Here is Tammy with her mothers

Two moms. No he doesn't have two moms. You can only have one mom. By the way that isn't a picture of a family. It is a picture of two sex perverts destroying a little boy. Gee I wish Jerry Brown would have them executed for crimes against this innocent little boy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-30   7:05:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#11)

Gee I wish Jerry Brown would have them executed for crimes against this innocent little boy.

Do you actually think Jerry Brown is going to do anything about this???? If he did he would be pissing off almost everyone who voted for him.......

CZ82  posted on  2011-09-30   17:37:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: CZ82, A K A Stone (#21)

Do you actually think Jerry Brown is going to do anything about this????

Tell me, what should he do about Cher? After all, Chaz was her daughter originally. Should she be executed, too?

Are you in favor of governors executing people just because they feel like it, like Stone is?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-01   11:51:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Skip Intro (#23)

Do you actually think Jerry Brown is going to do anything about this???? Tell me, what should he do about Cher? After all, Chaz was her daughter originally. Should she be executed, too?

Are you in favor of governors executing people just because they feel like it, like Stone is?

Personally I could care less about Cher and her daughter, they can be as messed up in the head as they want..... They can also keep their problems to themselves and deal with them without soliciting tolerance/approval/pity from others!!!! That right there is the reason why most people don't care/like gays....

As far as the governor executing people well it's up to him or her if they let court mandated justice take it's course, or pardon the offender..... If the court decides it's your time to assume room temperature for some crime you've commited then so be it.....

So let me ask you a question, do think think pedophilia, necrophilia and pederasty should be socially acceptable like homosexuality????

CZ82  posted on  2011-10-01   12:37:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: CZ82 (#27)

If the court decides it's your time to assume room temperature for some crime you've commited then so be it.....

I saw no mention of the courts in Stone's response, did you?

As to your question, no I don't.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-01   13:17:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Skip Intro (#33) (Edited)

I saw no mention of the courts in Stone's response, did you?

As to your question, no I don't.

No I didn't and I figured you knew when someone was pulling your chain, guess not!!!! As it stands right now it is beyond his power to execute people, and as far as I'm concerned it should stay that way...

Then you should be against open homosexuality too, because a lot of them commit those heinous acts I mentioned in my last post......

CZ82  posted on  2011-10-01   18:15:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: CZ82 (#49)

Then you should be against open homosexuality too, because a lot of them commit those heinous acts I mentioned in my last post......

I'm sure you'll be providing the statistics for both heterosexual and homosexual practitioners so we can verify your claim.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-01   18:24:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Skip Intro (#51)

I'm sure you'll be providing the statistics for both heterosexual and homosexual practitioners so we can verify your claim.

www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3

CZ82  posted on  2011-10-01   18:35:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: CZ82 (#52)

And the heterosexual data is ...?

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-01   18:41:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Skip Intro (#53)

And the heterosexual data is ...?

From that article.....

"Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children".

CZ82  posted on  2011-10-01   18:48:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: CZ82 (#54)

I'm sorry, but the Family Research Council is not an unbiased source, since they have a very clear agenda. I'd like to see data from a source without a bias.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-01   18:59:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Skip Intro (#55)

I'm sorry, but the Family Research Council is not an unbiased source, since they have a very clear agenda. I'd like to see data from a source without a bias.

Then go find it and post it..... and by the way good luck finding one, especially a pro-gay or government source that is unbiased!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-10-01   19:33:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: CZ82 (#57)

No, you find it to back up your claim. Far right bible thumper sites don't count because they're totally biased, and FRC is as biased as it gets.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-10-01   19:36:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Skip Intro (#58)

No, you find it to back up your claim. Far right bible thumper sites don't count because they're totally biased, and FRC is as biased as it gets.

I don't even own a Bible Skippy, but my wife has 2!!!!!

So is that what makes me a Right Wing bible thumper???? Just your opinion and your opinion alone????? So why don't you find proof that I'm a Right Wing Bible thumper and post it....

That's like your opinion of the homosexuals being different from mine...no article saying what you think, just your opinion.... So here I will give you something else to chew on ....

www.mega.nu/ ampp/baldwin_pedophilia_homosexuality.pdf

Just remember everyone has an agenda, and not everybody agrees with that agenda, so post what you will..... that's if you can spare the time..... By the way my agenda for today is to work on the truck, clean out the pumpkin patch and ensure I don't assume room temperature..... what's yours???

CZ82  posted on  2011-10-02   9:33:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: CZ82 (#84)

clean out the pumpkin patch

You grew pumpkins this year huh. Did they do any good?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-02   10:28:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: A K A Stone (#95)

clean out the pumpkin patch You grew pumpkins this year huh. Did they do any good?

I grew both the small decorative pumpkins and the large Big Max pumpkins that can reach 100 lbs.... Both did pretty well and ended up occupying over twice the space I alloted for them... I probably have about 12 pumpkins that weigh somewhere between 75 and 100 lbs, along with some others in the 50-60 lb range... The decoratives grew like crazy I probably have around 50 or more of those....

The biggest problem was all the wet weather we've had in the last month. Some of them don't look too swift on the bottom so don't know how long they will last.... Hopefully until we get a hard freeze....

I also grew some peppers, Fresno, New Mexico, Banana, Habanero and Cubanelles.... They did really well too... Am going to stem and seed them, and then vaccum pack them and toss them in the freezer... Hopefully that works well because I'm not much into canning.....

CZ82  posted on  2011-10-02   10:48:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: CZ82 (#106)

Do you freeze the pulp to make pumpkin pies and cookies?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-02   10:53:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: A K A Stone (#107)

Do you freeze the pulp to make pumpkin pies and cookies?

No... I just grow them for decoration.... The wife loves to decorate for Halloween and Thanksgiving so why not grow some and let her run wild.....

Have you checked out the price of pumpkins this year???? WOW!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2011-10-02   11:05:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: CZ82 (#110)

Is the price high? I might come get some of them for pulp. We freeze it and make killer pumpkin cookies.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-10-02   11:08:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#113. To: A K A Stone (#111)

Is the price high? I might come get some of them for pulp. We freeze it and make killer pumpkin cookies.

I went by Home Cheapo yesterday and they wanted $4.98 for small pumpkins weighing less than 10 lbs and $6.98 for those in the 10-20 lb range....

CZ82  posted on  2011-10-02 11:12:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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