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Title: 34% say country would be better off under Hillary Clinton: poll
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/ ... ff-under-hillary-clinton-poll/
Published: Sep 16, 2011
Author: Kase Wickman
Post Date: 2011-09-16 18:35:32 by nolu chan
Keywords: Obama, Hillary, Buyer
Views: 86406
Comments: 139

34% say country would be better off under Hillary Clinton: poll

By Kase Wickman
Friday, September 16th, 2011 -- 3:33 pm

More than a third of Americans said that if Hillary Clinton had been elected president in 2008, the country would be in better shape than it is right now under President Barack Obama's leadership.

The Bloomberg poll showed that Clinton, currently serving as secretary of state, garnered a 64 percent favorability rating, making her the most popular national politician in the country.

Thirty-four percent expressed wishful thinking about a Clinton presidency, up from the 25 percent who responded the same in July 2010.

In the 2008 election, Obama won the majority of delegates necessary to clinch the Democratic nomination after the primaries. During the drawn-out primary battle, Clinton actually won the popular vote, though Obama won 29 states to her 21.

Only 13 percent of respondents said that things would be worse under a Clinton White House.

It's not just Democrats expressing buyers' remorse either: 39 percent of Republicans said that Clinton would run the country better than Obama has.

“Some of her appeal is that she is not Barack Obama,” said J. Ann Selzer, president of Selzer & Co., the group that conducted poll.

No matter what the public's opinion of her, any wishful thinking will remain a fantasy.

“It’s below zero,” Clinton told CNN when asked about the chance of her challenging Obama in 2012. “One of the great things about being secretary of state is I am out of politics. I am not interested in being drawn back into it by anybody.”

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#1. To: nolu chan (#0)

I made this point in 2008.

war  posted on  2011-09-16   19:18:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: war, nolu chan (#1)

I thought it was funny when Hillary was losing originally. They both suck. McCain sucked too. Palin has potential.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-16   19:55:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone, war (#2)

Palin has potential.

Palin's 15 minutes came and went. Hillary's stock has risen as Secretary of State while Obama's stock has fallen. I made the point some months back that Hillary would make the stronger candidate this time around. The GOP, with its weak field, is probably happy they are not running against her.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-16   23:31:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nolu chan (#3)

Palin's 15 minutes came and went. Hillary's stock has risen as Secretary of State while Obama's stock has fallen. I made the point some months back that Hillary would make the stronger candidate this time around. The GOP, with its weak field, is probably happy they are not running against her.

LOL!

What a load of BULLSHIT.

Governor Palin isn't even an announced candidate and who are the libTURDS in a FRENZY over?

They don't ever tell us who they FEAR most do they councilor?

Hitlery is TOAST.

Sec State is a DEAD end job.

Go ahead, name all of the SecStates who later went on to be elected president in all of American history.

"Weak" GOP field?

LOL! What a LOAD of DNC/MinistryofTruth/libTURD crap!

Any of those people in the GOP primary would BEAT the wee little failed man child messiah "king" right now.

AND any of them would be orders of magnitudes BETTER for America than obammy would be.

F it.

I'm pissing into the breeze.

"America, killed by a THEORY."

But don't worry man, YOUR children will make real good slaves.

And most importantly, when THEY needed you, you were PURE, and that's what really counts isn't it?

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-17   0:01:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Mad Dog (#5)

Go ahead, name all of the SecStates who later went on to be elected president in all of American history.

Hitlery is TOAST.

Sec State is a DEAD end job.

It's Secretaries of State, and the burden of naming them should be shared. I will go first.

Thomas Jefferson.

Your turn.

And one must give props to the State Department under Hillary for its role in bringing some limited sense of sanity to occasionally considering the interests of the United States before those of the Hitlerian Neo-Nazis who have seized control of the Israeli government and whose thuggish misbehavior and war crimes have led to isolation, international condemnation, and to the brink of Palestinian recognition, praise Allah the merciful and the insane zionists.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-18   22:53:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: nolu chan (#11)

Go ahead, name all of the SecStates who later went on to be elected president in all of American history. Hitlery is TOAST.

Sec State is a DEAD end job.

It's Secretaries of State, and the burden of naming them should be shared. I will go first.

Thomas Jefferson.

Your turn.

And one must give props to the State Department under Hillary for its role in bringing some limited sense of sanity to occasionally considering the interests of the United States before those of the Hitlerian Neo-Nazis who have seized control of the Israeli government and whose thuggish misbehavior and war crimes have led to isolation, international condemnation, and to the brink of Palestinian recognition, praise Allah the merciful and the insane zionists.

LOL!

Thanks for answering the question, what took you so long genius?

Of the 44 individuals who have been President of the USA, one of those men, 1, T. Jefferson was Sec State before he was President.

That means that 1/44 =0.022727272273

0.02272727273 x 100 = 2.2727273%

rounded = 2.27%

So, "genius", 2.27% of ALL people who have ever been President of the USA have been Sec State first.

That is what is called "a SMALL number" "genius".

Therefore., It could be CORRECTLY said on the basis of THIS that the Sec State job is A DEAD END JOB.

I won't even address your Jew hating crap.

Thanks for making my point, AGAIN, that you are nothing but a feeble little Jew HATING supercilious, chickenshit, arrogant, little ponce.

Good luck wit dat "counselor".

LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-19   15:16:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mad Dog (#13)

[mad dog] I won't even address your Jew hating crap.

I did not say anything about Jews, most of whom condemn the lunatic fringe of the nutwing zionists who have seized control of the Israeli government. Those nutbags have been condemned through the years at the United Nations. One by one, I will lead you through resolutions and you may feel free to call resolution after resolution just Jew-hating crap until you look ridiculous.

Resolution 106 (March 29, 1955)

1. Condemns this attack as a violation of the cease-fire provisions of Security Council resolution 54 (1948) and as inconsistent with the obligations of the parties under the General Armistice Agreement between Egypt and Israel 2/ and under the United Nations Charter;

2. Calls again upon Israel to take all necessary measures to prevent such actions;

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-20   0:06:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: nolu chan (#15)

I did not say anything about Jews, most of whom condemn the lunatic fringe of the nutwing zionists, who have seized control of the Israeli government.

Oh really shyster?

Your words shyster; "And one must give props to the State Department under Hillary for its role in bringing some limited sense of sanity to occasionally considering the interests of the United States before those of the Hitlerian Neo-Nazis who have seized control of the Israeli government and whose thuggish misbehavior and war crimes have led to isolation, international condemnation, and to the brink of Palestinian recognition, praise Allah the merciful and the insane zionists."

You are a foul, LYING, Joooo hating piece of shit shyster.

Yeah I know, you don't hate JOOOOOOS, you hate "zionists".

Too bad for you that we ALL know THAT particular "code".

You foul POS.

Spit ...

(btw you pitiful supercilious shyster you aren't "leading" me, or any other CONSERVATIVE, anywhere, EVER.)

Piss off.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-20   14:31:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Mad Dog (#19)

You are a foul, LYING, Joooo hating piece of shit shyster.

Mad Dog #19, 2011-09-20, 14:31:48 ET

Condemning the insane Zionists who have seized control of the Israeli government and have led it to isolation from the civilized world does not express hatred, or anything else about Jews, unless you also interpret the condemnatory UN resolutions as worldwide hatred of Jews.

Resolution 111 (January 19, 1956)

2. Reminds the Government of Israel that the Council has already condemned military action in breach of the General Armistice Agreements, whether or not undertaken by way of retaliation, and has called upon Israel to take effective measures to prevent such actions;

3. Condemns the attack of 11 December 1955 as a flagrant violation of the cease-fire provisions of its resolution 54 (1948), of the terms of the General Armistice Agreement between Israel and Syria, and of Israel's obligations under the Charter of the United Nations;

4. Expresses its grave concern at the failure of the Government of Israel to comply with its obligations;

5. Calls upon the Government of Israel to do so in the future, in default of which the Council will have to consider what further measures under the Charter are required to maintain or restore the peace;

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-20   15:19:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: failed shyster nolu chan (#23)

Condemning the insane Zionists who have seized control of the Israeli government and have led it to isolation from the civilized world does not express hatred, or anything else about Jews, unless you also interpret the condemnatory UN resolutions as worldwide hatred of Jews.

Whatever you say Obersturm Meister.

You don't HATE JOOOOOOS, you hate "zionists"!

Right Obersturm Meister, R iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ggggggg hhhhhhhh ttttttttttttt.

LOL!

AND, Uh yeah shyster, I, (and EVERY person who knows what YOU Joo hating scum are doing), do consider ALL UN condemnatory resolutions as a manifestation of the HATE of the JOOOOOOS.

Because THAT IS EXACTLY what they are shyster.

So .... Fuck you Jooo hater, I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-21   14:46:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Mad Dog (#25)

I, (and EVERY person who knows what YOU Joo hating scum are doing), do consider ALL UN condemnatory resolutions as a manifestation of the HATE of the JOOOOOOS.

I figure I shouldn't run out of these until sometime next year.

Resolution 127 (January 22, 1958)

In order to create an atmosphere which would be more conducive to fruitful discussion, activities in the zone, such as those initiated by Israelis on 21 July 1957, should be suspended until such time as the survey has been completed and provisions made for the regulation of activities in the zone;

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-21   23:02:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: lubber wog PUNK nolu chan (#34)

I figure I shouldn't run out of these until sometime next year.

LOL!

Run out of WHAT you little lubber wog punk?

Posts that I have made, IN A PUBLIC FORUM, INTENDING ALL TO SEE THEM?

LOL! FOOL!

Or UN resolutions that are "HATE JOOOOS FIRST!?

Are you seriously TRYING to say that the UN works in a fair and balanced manner when the subject is Israel or the JOOOOS you simpering lubber wog punk?

What drugs are you on?

Lubber wog PUNK.

LOL!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-22   14:25:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Mad Dog (#43)

Or UN resolutions that are "HATE JOOOOS FIRST!?

Resolution 171 (April 9, 1962)

2. Reaffirms its resolution 111 (1956) of 19 January 1956 which condemned Israel military action in breach of the General Armistice Agreement, whether or not undertaken by way of retaliation;

3. Determines that the Israel attack of 16-17 March 1962 constitutes a flagrant violation of that resolution, and calls upon Israel scrupulously to refrain from such action in the future;

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-22   23:21:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: wannabe WOG nolu chan (#51)

.

LOL!

Does anything that you post ever have any MEANING WOG?

LOL!

It's OK WOG, this is the USA, and you have every right to be a JOOO hating creep.

LOL!

Hell WOG you'll even be POPULAR with that position.

LOL!

Hey WOG I have FIVE bucks here that says you have NO BALLS.

You can afford FIVE bucks can't you WOG?

Oh yeah .... it's that NO BALLS thingee eh WOG?

You wannabe lubber WOG bitch.

Oh well ...

LOL!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-23   0:34:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Mad Dog (#53)

Resolution 228 (November 25, 1966)

Reaffirming the necessity for strict adherence to the General Armistice Agreement,

1. Deplores the loss of life and heavy damage to property resulting from the action of the Government of Israel on 13 November 1966;

2. Censures Israel for this large-scale military action in violation of the United Nations Charter and of the General Armistice Agreement between Israel and Jordan;

3. Emphasizes to Israel that actions of military reprisal cannot be tolerated and that, if they are repeated, the Security Council will have to consider further and more effective steps as envisaged in the Charter to ensure against the repetition of such acts;

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-24   3:52:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: senile old wannabe lubber nolu chan (#62)

Resolution 228 (November 25, 1966)

Reaffirming the necessity for strict adherence to the General Armistice Agreement, 1. Deplores the loss of life and heavy damage to property resulting from the action of the Government of Israel on 13 November 1966;

2. Censures Israel for this large-scale military action in violation of the United Nations Charter and of the General Armistice Agreement between Israel and Jordan;

3. Emphasizes to Israel that actions of military reprisal cannot be tolerated and that, if they are repeated, the Security Council will have to consider further and more effective steps as envisaged in the Charter to ensure against the repetition of such acts;

LOL!

You senile old wannabe lubber, what the F is that supposed to prove IDIOT?

LOL!

You really are a stoopid F 'er.

LOL!

Hate dem JOOS real bad chan HATE EM!

LOL!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-24   14:31:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Mad Dog (#70)

You senile old wannabe lubber, what the F is that supposed to prove IDIOT?

Resolution 237 (June 14, 1967)

Considering that all the obligations of the Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War of 12 August 1949 /5 should be complied with by the parties involved in the conflict,

1. Calls upon the Government of Israel to ensure the safety, welfare and security of the inhabitants of the areas where military operations have taken place and to facilitate the return of those inhabitants who have fled the areas since the outbreak of hostilities ;

2. Recommends to the Governments concerned the scrupulous respect of the humanitarian principles governing the treatment of prisoners of war and the protection of civilian persons in time of war contained in the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-25   7:29:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: wannabe lubber WOG nolu chan (#79)

You senile old wannabe lubber WOG, what the F is that supposed to prove IDIOT?

We ALL already know that the UN HATES JOOS almost as much as you do WOG.

What else are you trying to prove other than that you are a brain dead JOOO hating POS wannabe lubber WOG bitch?

WE ALL already know that bitch.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-25   15:03:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Mad Dog (#85)

Resolution 242 (November 22, 1967)

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

Emphasizing further that all Member States in their acceptance of the Charter of the United Nations have undertaken a commitment to act in accordance with Article 2 of the Charter.

1. Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:

(i) Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;

(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-25   23:53:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#99. To: senile OLD wannabe lubber WOG nolu chan (#94)

Blah blah blah

.

LOL! MORON!

LOL!

.

LOL!

That's no "proof" of anything, except for your already noted skill at "cut n paste" WOG.

IF you are claiming service in the NAV WOG ...

Where do YOU claim to have done boot WOG?

Where did you do YOUR "A"/"C"/other school WOG?

What was YOUR first ship WOG?

What was YOUR RATE WOG?

What ships did YOU serve on and where and when WOG?

What was YOUR Department WOG? What was YOUR Division WOG?

Where did YOU cross the line WOG, on board what ship WOG?

Where's YOUR Honorable Discharge WOG?

Where's YOUR DD-214 WOG?

Tell us all about it WOG.

YOU COWARD. YOU LIAR. YOU CREEP. YOU WANNABE LUBBER WOG.

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Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-26 15:22:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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