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Title: 34% say country would be better off under Hillary Clinton: poll
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/ ... ff-under-hillary-clinton-poll/
Published: Sep 16, 2011
Author: Kase Wickman
Post Date: 2011-09-16 18:35:32 by nolu chan
Keywords: Obama, Hillary, Buyer
Views: 86366
Comments: 139

34% say country would be better off under Hillary Clinton: poll

By Kase Wickman
Friday, September 16th, 2011 -- 3:33 pm

More than a third of Americans said that if Hillary Clinton had been elected president in 2008, the country would be in better shape than it is right now under President Barack Obama's leadership.

The Bloomberg poll showed that Clinton, currently serving as secretary of state, garnered a 64 percent favorability rating, making her the most popular national politician in the country.

Thirty-four percent expressed wishful thinking about a Clinton presidency, up from the 25 percent who responded the same in July 2010.

In the 2008 election, Obama won the majority of delegates necessary to clinch the Democratic nomination after the primaries. During the drawn-out primary battle, Clinton actually won the popular vote, though Obama won 29 states to her 21.

Only 13 percent of respondents said that things would be worse under a Clinton White House.

It's not just Democrats expressing buyers' remorse either: 39 percent of Republicans said that Clinton would run the country better than Obama has.

“Some of her appeal is that she is not Barack Obama,” said J. Ann Selzer, president of Selzer & Co., the group that conducted poll.

No matter what the public's opinion of her, any wishful thinking will remain a fantasy.

“It’s below zero,” Clinton told CNN when asked about the chance of her challenging Obama in 2012. “One of the great things about being secretary of state is I am out of politics. I am not interested in being drawn back into it by anybody.”

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#1. To: nolu chan (#0)

I made this point in 2008.

war  posted on  2011-09-16   19:18:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: war, nolu chan (#1)

I thought it was funny when Hillary was losing originally. They both suck. McCain sucked too. Palin has potential.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-16   19:55:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone, war (#2)

Palin has potential.

Palin's 15 minutes came and went. Hillary's stock has risen as Secretary of State while Obama's stock has fallen. I made the point some months back that Hillary would make the stronger candidate this time around. The GOP, with its weak field, is probably happy they are not running against her.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-16   23:31:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: nolu chan (#3)

Palin's 15 minutes came and went. Hillary's stock has risen as Secretary of State while Obama's stock has fallen. I made the point some months back that Hillary would make the stronger candidate this time around. The GOP, with its weak field, is probably happy they are not running against her.

LOL!

What a load of BULLSHIT.

Governor Palin isn't even an announced candidate and who are the libTURDS in a FRENZY over?

They don't ever tell us who they FEAR most do they councilor?

Hitlery is TOAST.

Sec State is a DEAD end job.

Go ahead, name all of the SecStates who later went on to be elected president in all of American history.

"Weak" GOP field?

LOL! What a LOAD of DNC/MinistryofTruth/libTURD crap!

Any of those people in the GOP primary would BEAT the wee little failed man child messiah "king" right now.

AND any of them would be orders of magnitudes BETTER for America than obammy would be.

F it.

I'm pissing into the breeze.

"America, killed by a THEORY."

But don't worry man, YOUR children will make real good slaves.

And most importantly, when THEY needed you, you were PURE, and that's what really counts isn't it?

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-17   0:01:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Mad Dog (#5)

Governor Palin isn't even an announced candidate and who are the libTURDS in a FRENZY over?

They don't ever tell us who they FEAR most do they councilor?

Hitlery is TOAST.

Sec State is a DEAD end job.

Half-term Governor Palin is not running, will not run, would not win the nomination were she to run, and would likely ensure GOP failure if she were to be the candidate. She is manifestly, overwhelmingly incompetent. The Dems would love to run against Palin.

Hillary is not running and will not run. The only way she could run is if Obama were to drop out. Had Obama decided not to run and had she been running, Hillary would have been a formidable candidate. As I said, "they are not running against her."

The GOP frontrunners are Mitt Romney and Rick Perry. With the current economic/jobs climate, Obama should not even be competitive. That he is competitive with the GOP frontrunners speaks loudly to their inherent weakness.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-17   3:14:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nolu chan (#6)

1.) a.)Half-term Governor Palin b.) is not running, will not run, would not win the nomination were she to run, and would likely ensure GOP failure if she were to be the candidate. She is manifestly, overwhelmingly incompetent. The Dems would love to run against Palin.

2.) a.) Hillary is not running and will not run. b.)The only way she could run is if Obama were to drop out. Had Obama decided not to run and had she been running, Hillary would have been a formidable candidate. As I said, "they are not running against her."

3.) a.) The GOP frontrunners are Mitt Romney and Rick Perry. With the current economic/jobs climate, Obama should not even be competitive. That he is competitive with the GOP frontrunners speaks loudly to their inherent weakness.

LOL!

1.)

a.) FACTUALLY you little wannabe shyster, in the interest of TRUTH and FACT; even half of a term still would equal "Governor" as an honorific. Want to BET on it sparky?

b.) YOU are a wannabe shyster sparky not a blind sear seated at "the navel of the world". Even your rodent cadres would balk at actually claiming to know the future! But well done! for sheer balls and effort and stupidity! You are a wannabe shyster afterall and that REQUIRES that you be a legend in YOUR own, ahem, "mind".

2.)

a.) LOL! what a MOROOOOOON! We have already covered this sparky, you cannot and do not know what is going to happen in the next second let along in the more long term future you arrogant wittle rascal!

b.) Show us ALL sparky where Hitlery is prevented by RULE or LAW from running against the messiah "king" obammy? As I said sparky, you don't KNOW shit, you just have an OPINION. Which, I guess, means the same thing to you wannabe shysters? Eh sparky?

3.)

a.) Frankly sparky that's just too stoopid to even address.

The PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION is over a YEAR away, NOTHING that is NOW will be THEN, when the REAL time comes.

DUH ....

Frankly sparky that really shows what a stoopid little PDS insane fuckwad you are.

That you "think" obammy is "competitive" with the GOP field underlines how stoopid you truly are.

I feel very EMBARRASSED for you sparky.

That must REALLY sting being so STOOOOOOPID when you want more than anything to be "smart"?

I feel your pain sparky.

Boo whoo ...

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-17   7:49:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Mad Dog (#8)

FACTUALLY, I gave Sarah Palin the honorific of Governor, and accurately and FACTUALLY characterized her as a half-term Governor, avoiding the term half-governor.

The only way Hillary could run is if Obama were to drop out. This is because Obama has raised about a billion dollars and the Democrat Party would not back her in a contested election. If the party do not decide to move Obama out first, Hillary would not obtain party support. As such, she might as well run for the nomination of the Green Party or some other third party. It is political reality.

While the presidential election is a year away, the primaries are not. And your track record is so good, especially with your inability to remember. Or are you still celebrating the election of President McCain?

#29. To: Happy2BMe-OnLP (#8)

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zogby is a tool of the left, he was wrong with GORE he was wrong with KERRY.

LOL!

The OH-BAA-mi's coronation is premature, and will help defeat him.

LOL!

Mad Dog  posted on  2008-10-22   15:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace

You do not offer an opinion. You offer only pre-set party talking points.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-18   2:00:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: nolu chan (#9)

You do not offer an opinion.

You aren't really all that bright are you counselor?

THAT was EXACTLY MY POINT, about YOU, you supercilious azzhole.

YOU offer NOTHING but YOUR OWN OPINIONS, AND you act as if your OPINIONS are FACTS.

AND azzhole, you didn't address GOVERNOR Palin by her honorific in your post to me and haven't addressed GOVERNOR Palin by her honorific in general azzhole.

So while you may be aware of the correct ENGLISH useage, you are incapable for some reason, (wink, wink, nod, nod), of DOING it.

You want to exercise your PDS? Have at it counselor, just don't even try to look down your nose at anyone. Because you aren't anything but a jabbering posing poppin jay.

Better pay attention to that PLANK in your eyes before you start bitching about the motes in other's.

IF you don't like my "style" piss off.

YOU need a BRAIN to be able to understand what I say.

The "left" is OUR blood enemy you fool.

WE are at WAR with them for the FUTURE of this nation and people RIGHT NOW.

The wee little failed man child messiah "king" obammy is just the latest step towards TYRANNY you stupid supercilious cunt.

SHOW ME ANYWHERE, ANYTIME, WHERE I HAVE EVER SUPPORTED "PARTY" OVER NATION.

You CAN'T because I NEVER have, and NEVER would.

The ONLY thing "pre-set" about ME is my absolute devotion to the CONSTITUTION and PEOPLE of the United States of America.

I have actually taken an OATH to preserve and protect it, and them. Which I am still bound under duty AND preference to preform.

EVERYONE knows when I express MY OPINION(S) azzhole, because I state that it is MY OPINION.

I always provide CITATIONS and links to anything that I claim is a FACT.

You are a wannabe shyster I'm an ex-engineer.

You bury your mistakes shyster, we expose and FIX our problems by the establishing the objective FACTS azzwipe.

So Fuck you, you phony supercilious bitch.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-18   16:08:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Mad Dog (#10)

I always provide CITATIONS and links to anything that I claim is a FACT.
—Mad Dog #10, 2011-09-18, 16:08:50 ET

You aren't really all that bright are you counselor?... Have at it counselor...
—Mad Dog #10, 2011-09-18, 16:08:50 ET

You are a wannabe shyster... You bury your mistakes shyster...
—Mad Dog #10, 2011-09-18, 16:08:50 ET

You appear to have inadvertently forgotten to include the CITATIONS and LINKS that you ALWAYS provide to anything that you claim is a FACT.

Does this mean that your claims are admittedly not FACT?

Or are you unable or unwilling to provide the CITATIONS and LINKS that you ALWAYS provide in support of your nonsense?

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-20   0:30:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: nolu chan (#18) (Edited)

I always provide CITATIONS and links to anything that I claim is a FACT.

—Mad Dog #10, 2011-09-18, 16:08:50 ET You aren't really all that bright are you counselor?... Have at it counselor... —Mad Dog #10, 2011-09-18, 16:08:50 ET You are a wannabe shyster... You bury your mistakes shyster... —Mad Dog #10, 2011-09-18, 16:08:50 ET

You appear to have inadvertently forgotten to include the CITATIONS and LINKS that you ALWAYS provide to anything that you claim is a FACT.

Does this mean that your claims are admittedly not FACT?

Or are you unable or unwilling to provide the CITATIONS and LINKS that you ALWAYS provide in support of your nonsense?

LOL!

I REALLY got your goat didn't I shyster?

FOUR posts?

LOL! You powerless little shyster insect.

I didn't provide citations, because the above is my OPINION.

Unlike YOU shyster I don't confuse MY OPINIONS with FACTS.

And when I claim a FACT, I always provide a citation.

Anyhow shyster, your act is obvious to EVERYONE.

You are so insecure it's pitiful.

FOUR posts shyster?

LOL!

I OWN you bitch!

LOL!

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-20   14:58:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Mad Dog (#22)

YOU have NEVER served in any branch of the US armed forces anywhere at any time have YOU, you lubber bitch?

Mad Dog #20, 2011-09-20, 14:42:47 ET

Wrong guess.

It is really interesting to me "counselor" how when I piss you off, you immediately go and TRY to revive lies about my service. ... YOU have NEVER served in any branch of the US armed forces anywhere at any time have YOU, you lubber bitch?

Mad Dog #20, 2011-09-20, 14:42:47 ET

I shall take apart your imbecilic bullshit piece by piece.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=326#C326

#326. To: sneakypete (#325)

No, you are incorrect, the US NAVY had "Naval Enlistment Codes", (NECs).

During Vietnam the USMC was part of the NAV,(the Commandant of the Marine Corps reported directly to the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), (I think that Slick Willie aka the Stainmeister, changed that).

The Corps had MOSs. But they knew, (and hated) that they were part of the USN.

But you doggies did it ALL yourselves right?

Right.

Out of forty, (40), "graduates" of NTC San Diego, company 217, 1968; 38 went to serve with the Corps as Corpsmen, two (2) went to the 7th fleet.

But you doggies did it ALL your ownselves right?

Right.

DesRon 15, look it up doggie.

Mad Dog posted on 2006-12-21 3:14:46 ET Reply Trace

Mad Dog, if you were a Navy veteran, you should know that a U.S. Navy NEC is NOT, as you state, a Naval Enlistment Code. NEC does not stand for that, has nothing whatever to do with reenlistment eligibility nor the characterization of one's enlistment.

Care to try again, you wannabe Navy veteran?

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-20   15:20:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: failed shyster nolu chan (#24)

Mad Dog, if you were a Navy veteran, you should know that a U.S. Navy NEC is NOT, as you state, a Naval Enlistment Code. NEC does not stand for that, has nothing whatever to do with reenlistment eligibility nor the characterization of one's enlistment.

So you want to make the $10K bet that I have challenged you with coward?

No problem.

Navy jobs are designated by "NEC" numbers aren't they you gibbering little shyster bitch?

In FACT you little lubber shyster bitch, according to the 1968 edition of the Blue jacket's Manual pg 192, it says, and I quote ... "This is where the Navy ENLISTED Classification Codes (NECs) come into use."

Do you think that just MAYBE the "Bluejacket's Manual" just MIGHT know what it's talking about when it's talking about the fucking NAVY, you simpering little shyster bitch?

I was a blue water Destroyer deck/weapons sailor, and I have ALL the tickets to prove it you ignorant snotty little land lubber bitch.

I AM a shellback.

You owe Stone $10K you foul little shyster lubber wog bitch.

BUT of course YOU'LL never pay him, will you fraud?

LOL!

You ignorant fuckwad lubber bitch.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-21   15:19:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 27.

#28. To: failed shyster wog nolu chan (#27)

.

When are you sending Stone the 10 Grand that you owe him, you foul little lubber wog shyster bitch?

Eh wog?

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-09-21 15:38:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Mad Dog (#27)

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=169733&Disp=326#C326

#326. To: sneakypete (#325)

No, you are incorrect, the US NAVY had "Naval Enlistment Codes", (NECs).

[...]

Mad Dog posted on 2006-12-21 3:14:46 ET Reply Trace

[nolu chan] Mad Dog, if you were a Navy veteran, you should know that a U.S. Navy NEC is NOT, as you state, a Naval Enlistment Code. NEC does not stand for that, has nothing whatever to do with reenlistment eligibility nor the characterization of one's enlistment.

Numbnutz googled Reenlistment Eligibility Codes for an NEC:

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/theorderlyroom/l/blcode5.htm

Military Reenlistment Eligibility (RE) Code
United States Navy, Marines, & Coast Guard

And here is what numbnutz presented for his NEC:

#273. To: seen2much, sneakypete (#250)

What makes you assholes any different than the scum at DU or the Daily Kos,....?

I missed the rule where I have to prove my service to you cunts. Where do I send my DD-214 to s2m? Please give me your address you vile little turd, I'll get it right out to you.

Not.

I'm a Vietnam Vet. ("RER-1".) Don't like it? f**k OFF.

If you really are a vet stinky, you might think a little about what your sucking up to such a vile little turd as s2m means about you.

If you ever knew honor stinky, it must have rubbed off since you got out.

You being butt buddies with s2m, and the rest of the emotional idiots of the "I HATE BUSH!" herd, and all.

Now show me how DU, and the Daily Kos, and Moveon.org, and of course YOU, treat Vets.

I've seen worse.

Way worse.

Mad Dog  posted on  2006-12-19   4:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace  


#274. To: Mad Dog (#273)

What makes you assholes any different than the scum at DU or the Daily Kos,....?

Unlike you and them,I am sane and put country ahead of party and self.

I missed the rule where I have to prove my service to you cunts.

Ohhhh! You must be a tough guy to use words like that! Army cook?

I'm a Vietnam Vet. ("RER-1".) Don't like it? f**k OFF.

I don't even know what a "RER-1" is. "Reserve Enlisted Retard-1st Class"? "Really Eager RINO-grade 1"?

If you really are a vet stinky, you might think a little about what your sucking up to such a vile little turd as s2m means about you.

I am a vet,and I can think of NOTHING worse than sucking up to that traitor Boy Jorge and the criminal enterprise he calls a family. And to think that you do it because you are scared and think he is going to protect you just proves you are so stupid you don't even recogonize the true danger.

If you ever knew honor stinky, it must have rubbed off since you got out.

Says the man who supports the man who let bin Laden's family fly out of the US,after they gave jobs and housing to some of the hijackers from out of Logan airport. The same man who sold our sub and missle secrets to the Chinese.

You being butt buddies with s2m, and the rest of the emotional idiots of the "I HATE BUSH!" herd, and all.

Ain't NOBODY as emotional as you,Princess. "SAVE ME,MASSA BUSH,SAVE ME!"

Now show me how DU, and the Daily Kos, and Moveon.org, and of course YOU, treat Vets.

Poor baby.

sneakypete  posted on  2006-12-19   7:33:20 ET  Reply   Trace  


#275. To: sneakypete (#274)

If you ever knew honor stinky, it must have rubbed off since you got out.

I am sorry that this is true about you. (Esp. IF you ever really served).

Of course you don't know what "RER-1" is, because you are a FRAUD.

Mad Dog  posted on  2006-12-19   20:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace  


#276. To: sneakypete (#274)

Army cook?

The method you use to attempt to insult me shows another clue that you are a poser and a fraud.

Who fought and won the Battle of the Bulge in WW2 Stinky?

You pityful liar.

Mad Dog  posted on  2006-12-19   20:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace  


#277. To: Mad Dog (#275)

Of course you don't know what "RER-1" is, because you are a FRAUD.

ROFLMAO! "RER-1" isn't a MOS code. It's something you got from a Chuck Norris movie,ain't it?

sneakypete  posted on  2006-12-19   21:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace  


#278. To: sneakypete (#277)

You are frothing at the mouth stinky.

Mad Dog  posted on  2006-12-19   21:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace  

Here he tries to bullshit his way out of what he did:

[Mad Dog #27]

Navy jobs are designated by "NEC" numbers aren't they you gibbering little shyster bitch?

In FACT you little lubber shyster bitch, according to the 1968 edition of the Blue jacket's Manual pg 192, it says, and I quote ... "This is where the Navy ENLISTED Classification Codes (NECs) come into use."

Do you think that just MAYBE the "Bluejacket's Manual" just MIGHT know what it's talking about when it's talking about the fucking NAVY, you simpering little shyster bitch?

Unfortunately numbnutz provided sneakypete with a defective Reenlistment Eligibility Code, not a Navy Enlisted Classification (NEC) code. And the rank amateur goes to the Bluejacket's Manual to provide authority on NECs. Consulting the actual Navy Manual on the subject provides actual, thorough, official information.

CHAPTER I

INTRODUCTION TO THE NAVY ENLISTED CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM

A. PURPOSE

1. The Navy Enlisted Classification (NEC) system, of which the NEC coding system is a part, supplements the enlisted rating structure in identifying personnel on active or inactive duty and billets in manpower authorizations. NEC codes identify a non-rating wide skill, knowledge, aptitude, or qualification that must be documented to identify both people and billets for management purposes. Additionally, an NEC can be used to identify special circumstances or situations with approval via the NEOCS process.

2. The NEC coding system facilitates management control over enlisted skills by identifying billets and personnel and enhancing efficient use of personnel in distribution and detailing. In cases where NECs reflect special training, inventories of coded billets and coded personnel are also the basis for planning and controlling input of personnel into formal courses that earn NECs. Consequently, the continuing enlisted strength of the Navy, particularly petty officer allocations, and funds authorized for rating and specialty training depends, to an increasing extent, upon the accuracy, thoroughness, and timeliness of NEC coding. Personnel required to support ratings and special programs must be identified by the correct combinations of rates and/or NECs.

B. TYPES OF NECS

1. Entry Series NECs consist of Rating Conversion and Occupational Area - Defense Grouping (DG) NECs.

a. Rating Conversion NECs identify aptitudes and qualifications not discernible from rates alone and are assigned to identify petty officers or identified strikers who are in training for change of rating or status under approved programs.

b. Occupational Area - Defense Groupings (DG) NECs relate to groups of ratings for which there is an identification requirement. These NECs appear as DG-9700 through DG-9780, which reflect the location of Navy ratings in the Department of Defense Occupational Conversion Manual, Enlisted. The third digit in the codes specifies the DoD Occupational Area Grouping Code used in the DoD Occupational Conversion Manual. USN and USNR personnel in paygrades E-1 through E-3 (not already "rating associated" by rates or by striker identification) must be assigned an appropriate DG NEC that identifies and indicates that these individuals have received training, are in training, or have aptitude for training in the areas identified by the DG code.

2. Rating Series NECs relate to a limited number of specific ratings. Rating Series NECs identify special or unique billet requirements beyond the skill and knowledge that the general rating would provide. When assigned to an individual, Rating Series NECs show that the person has obtained certain skills or knowledge and is qualified for detailing to a billet requirement.

3. Special Series NECs have the same purpose as Rating Series NECs but in general, relate to an unlimited number of ratings.

4. Alphanumeric NECs are used to identify discrete skills and training levels when justified by the complexity of training and management requirements. Alphanumeric NECs require dedicated personnel support to monitor and manage because of the intricacies of coordinating resources and support systems. Therefore, recommendations for alphanumeric NECs are to be submitted only through Warfare or Resource Sponsors after a development process that completely addresses all the elements required to make the program successful. These elements include:

a. Development of a training structure, in cooperation with appropriate training program coordinators.

b. A definite plan or program for tracking the inventory or requirements and personnel assets.

c. A commitment from the Warfare or Resource Sponsor to provide dedicated support personnel to management and monitoring of the program. Decisions on the feasibility of expanding use of alphanumeric NECs will be based on experience gained from the submarine community alphanumeric NECs. Use of alphanumeric NECs is limited to submarine ET and RM ratings and rating conversion NECs. Use of alphanumeric coding may be opened to other ratings only when all numeric codes have been depleted.

5. Numerical NECs not included in Rating Series or Special Series are grouped under EOD/DIVER/SEAL, Nuclear, Aircrew or Aircraft Systems Maintenance.

6. Planning NECs are NECs approved for planning purposes only and are listed in Chapter V of this manual. These NECs may be used in conjunction with Navy Training Plans, in developing planned training courses, and other applicable long-range projects. Planning NECs listed in Chapter V may be written in manpower authorizations to project requirements and used for other planning purposes; however, they are not assigned to personnel.

Submit requests for planning NECs to Commanding Officer, Navy Manpower Analysis Center (NAVMAC) (Code 10) via the chain of command. A request must include a proposed title, a ready-fortraining date (actual or estimated), billet paygrades, and point of contact. Submit requests to convert approved Planning NECs to Rating or Special series NECs 180 days before the date the NEC is to be awarded (i.e., 180 days before completion of initial course or factory training). Appendix A identifies requirements for establishing new NECs.

Numbnutz never thought of looking in the right manual because he does not know what it is.

I am going to put up right here on the website and then probably wrap it all together in a PDF on scribd.

You can continue to make believe, or you can attempt to bullshit your way out of your lies right here on the website.

I will take my time and embarrass you to death as I annihilate your bullshit. You are not trying to fly your bullshit past the Army this time.

By the way, you may find your NEC on your Navy Occupation and Training History. These days it's on NAVPERS Form 1070-604 in block 7. For the correct form back in the day you can consult your own records. It should be in block number 2.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-21 23:05:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Mad Dog (#27)

I AM a shellback.

You sound like the royal baby.

nolu chan  posted on  2011-09-21 23:24:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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