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Title: Perry’s Star Begins To Fade With Voters [Ron Paul still most competitive in new polls]
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URL Source: http://www.infowars.com/perrys-star-begins-to-fade-with-voters/
Published: Sep 16, 2011
Author: Steve Watson
Post Date: 2011-09-16 16:44:40 by Capitalist Eric
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Views: 6685
Comments: 22

Rick Perry’s status as front runner in the race for the GOP nomination is beginning to falter it seems, if the latest national poll released by Rasmussen is anything to go by.

Just two weeks ago, Perry held a three point lead over Obama in a hypothetical match up, since his performance in the debates, he has slipped and trails Obama 46% to 39%.

Perry trails Obama by 15 percentage points among women and barely leads among men.

Even mainstream media pundits agreed Perry’s performances, particularly his exchanges with Ron Paul, in the debates were distinctly average.

In addition, much coverage over the past fortnight has focused on Perry’s Democratic past and his flip flopping over the Gardasil mandate he oversaw in Texas.

Meanwhile in a new Reuters/Ipsos survey, Ron Paul emerges as one of the most competitive Republican candidates with registered voters when pitted directly against Obama.

Paul attracts 42% of voters to 49% for Obama, while other candidates such as Perry, Bachmann and Huntsman all fail to draw the president below 50%.

“Our campaign has been gaining momentum for some time now, and this is yet another poll that clearly proves how competitive we are versus the President” said Ron Paul 2012 Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton.

“Dr. Paul is gaining ground in poll after poll, affirming that people are looking for real change instead of the status quo they are being offered from the establishment.”

The findings dovetail with other recent surveys that have placed Paul within striking distance of Obama.

Three weeks ago Rasmussen reported that Ron Paul earned 38% of the vote to President Obama’s 39% in a national phone poll of 1000 likely voters.

Another significant finding from the poll indicated that voters not affiliated with either of the major political parties preferred the congressman to Obama by 10 points – 43% to 33%.

The survey also found that voters under 30 prefer the president, while Paul edges the incumbent in all other age groups.

A Gallup poll released in the same week found that Ron Paul trailed President Obama by just 2 percentage points at 47 to 45%.

Paul vs Obama would represent the establishment’s worst nightmare on every front.

As previous polls have shown, out of the Republican candidates, only Ron Paul has a realistic hope of success in a hypothetical run off against Obama – the other candidates are equally unpopular as the President.

A CNN poll from May 2011 showed that Paul has the best chance among Republicans of defeating Obama in a head-to-head election:

Paul even faired significantly better in the poll than Mitt Romney. The poll found that Romney would lose by 11 points if he got the nomination and went head to head with Obama, whereas Paul only trailed the President by 7 points.

This is telling given the fact that Obama aides have openly admitted they would prefer not to run against Romney. Of course, in line with their corporate media mouthpieces, the White House is still pretending Ron Paul doesn’t exist.

Other recent polls have also placed Paul on a par with Obama.

These surveys yet again demonstrate that Ron Paul is a competitive candidate, despite what the mainstream media would have us believe. Even without the corporate media-promotion and general name recognition, Ron Paul is matched against President Obama (within the margin of error). The ‘Ron Paul can’t win hoax’ is yet again dispelled by statistical numbers.


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Paul vs Obama would represent the establishment’s worst nightmare on every front.

That's why goober56, loonymom/ming, gobsheit and dumbshiit-DwarF will push for someone like Perry or Romney- if the debate becomes one of reality, oBUMa is TOAST. (1 image)

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#1. To: Capitalist Eric (#0)

I've watched the debates so far. Honestly, after an hour Ron Paul seems to have trouble putting together coherent sentences, and concise thoughts. I've noticed that in each of them.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-16   16:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Capitalist Eric (#0) (Edited)

The reality is that Paul won't win a single GOP primary or caucus. He might come in second in New Hampshire behind Romney.

Economic conservatives love Paul and neo-cons absolutely despise him. Social conservatives generally like him because of his pro-life stand, but most of them don't understand Paul's position on the drug war.

Drug legalization hasn't come at all in the debate. If it does, Paul will plummet in the polls because most reasonable and rational people turn into emotional, raving idiots at the mere mention of drug legalization.

Romney is going to get the GOP nomination. He came in second in 2008, so its his turn. That's the way the GOP works.

Time to look for a third party candidate.


Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-16   16:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Badeye (#1)

Honestly, after an hour Ron Paul seems to have trouble putting together coherent sentences, and concise thoughts. I've noticed that in each of them.

Paul is getting up there in years. It is physically tasking to be campaigning. It actually is telling that there is no young Republican office holder pushing the ideology.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-09-16   16:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler (#2)

Drug legalization hasn't come at all in the debate. If it does, Paul will plummet in the polls because most reasonable and rational people turn into emotional, raving idiots at the mere mention of drug legalization.

If I was Obama, on Christmas eve, I would pardon everyone in America ever arrested for possession of marijuana.

My calculation would be it would boost my numbers (if I was roleplaying as Obama).

Of course that would mean Republicans would attack me but they would be scrambling for a few days to come up with a coherent anti-pardon message because it would be the holiday and they would be waiting to see how Obama's pardon fared in the polls.

But I doubt Obama is that bold.

With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-09-16   17:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: jwpegler (#2)

I think you are correct about Romney, but its not because its 'his turn' its because he has the best nationwide organization. He's also far more polished in his debate performances.

Perry is tailor made for Owe-bama and the Dems scare tactics, which is all they can do this time around. They damn sure can't run on Owe-bama's record, given its been one failure after another.

Nailing bin Laden is the only thing he can say he got right.

As for Ron Paul, did you notice what I did in the debates so far?

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-16   17:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Godwinson (#3)

Paul is getting up there in years. It is physically tasking to be campaigning. It actually is telling that there is no young Republican office holder pushing the ideology.

You and I agree on everything you write here except the last part. The fact is 'young Republican office holders' are driving the national debate in the House, and in multiple state legislatures.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-16   17:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Godwinson (#3)

It actually is telling that there is no young Republican office holder pushing the ideology.

What about his son..Rand Paul?

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-09-16   17:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: jwpegler (#2)

Never again will I fall for that "lesser of two evils" bull. I'll vote for the man who has integrity, a rock-solid track record, and has the stones to take on the Police State.

That narrows the field to only one candidate. It ain't any of the MSM-approved choices, and it CERTAINLY isn't that sad-sack sitting in the White House.

The rest of the candidates are establishment shills to one degree or another (INCLUDING Bachmann), and I've had it with them. Ike was right about the MIC, JFK died for it, and we've not had a good POTUS since.

If I have to write in the following name again, I will: Ron Paul.

No more NWO puppets. NO MORE.

To:Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro From: Capitalist Eric Message: You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-09-16   17:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Godwinson (#3)

It actually is telling that there is no young Republican office holder pushing the ideology

It's similar on the Democrat side, with Dennis Kucinich being perhaps the closest to Ron Paul. It could be Kucinich vs Rand Paul in 2016. It would be a hell of a debate anyway.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-09-16   17:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#5) (Edited)

Insofar as Romney's turn in concerned -- look at the GOP record of the last four decades:

YearNominee2nd Place
1976FordReagan
1980ReaganBush
1988BushDole
1996DoleBuchanan (who did not run in 2000)
2000Bush Jr.McCain
2008McCainRomney

It is Romney's turn.

Unlike the GOP, the Democrats jettison their losing candidates:

YearNominee2nd Place
1976CarterBrown
1984MondaleHart
1988DukakisJackson
1992ClintonTsongas
2000GoreBradley
2004KerryEdwards

It's really interesting how the parties differ in this respect.


Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-16   17:39:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Capitalist Eric (#0) (Edited)

www.realclearpolitics.com...epublican_candidates.html

Real Clear Politics has a good compilation of all the polls including averaging. I can't get it to display, so go to the link.

Ron Paul comes in second to Romney as most likely to beat Obama. Unfortunately polls often don't even ask about Ron Paul, so the data is kind of thin regarding him.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-09-16   17:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Capitalist Eric (#8) (Edited)

Never again will I fall for that "lesser of two evils" bull.

I mostly vote for third party candidates for President.

YearMy voteNotes
1980Reagan
1984Reagan
1988Ron PaulI supported Jack Kemp in the GOP primary
1992PerotI supported Pat Buchanan in the GOP primary
1996DoleI held my nose because Kemp was on the ticket
2000BushYes, I was fooled and I regret it
2004Ralph Nader100% anti-Iraq War vote
2008Bob BarrWhat else was I going to do?

In 2004 and 2008 I seriously thought of becoming a non-voter. I don't think like that any more. I'm going to vote for someone, but NOT Romney or Santorum. If Romney gets the nomination I will look for another third party candidate.


Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-16   17:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Badeye (#5)

Romney is a liberal. He will say whatever he thinks you want to hear.

Perry seems a little better but he is bad on immigration.

When Sarah Palin enters the race she will be more conservative then Romney and she wont be making it up. She will be better on immigration and she didn't used to be a democrat like Perry.

It is hers for the taking if she wants it. I think she is smart waiting til late to get in. When major new people get into the race they always seem to start at the top.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-09-16   20:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: jwpegler (#10)

I think it details the tremendous advantage an existing national structure provides a 2nd place finisher, not a 'its their turn' conspiracy.

Just where is this 'meeting' held, and who attends, under your theory of 'their turn conspiracy' JW?

See what I mean here?

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-17   9:48:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#13)

Romney's a businessman, and we need that more than anything else to deal with the existing emergence - the economy - for 48 months.

Palin will not enter the race.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-17   9:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Badeye, jwpegler, A K A Stone (#14)

Just where is this 'meeting' held, and who attends

The location of the Bilderberg meeting changes from year to year, but the one Reconquista Rick Perry attended was in Istanbul, Turkey in 2007.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-09-17   11:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: hondo68 (#16)

(eyes rolling)

Ah, kook theories. So interesting, til you finally wake up to one simple, undeniable fact: The results that never seem to occur.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-17   12:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Badeye, *Yukon neo-Progressive Vermin* (#17)

The results that never seem to occur

Yeah sure, the economy is doing great, and you're going to love your new death panel.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-09-17   12:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: hondo68 (#18)

The results that never seem to occur Yeah sure, the economy is doing great, and you're going to love your new death panel.

Thats what those evil B de bergers were hatching over the past century?

Like I said...

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-17   12:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Badeye (#14) (Edited)

I think it details the tremendous advantage an existing national structure provides a 2nd place finisher, not a 'its their turn' conspiracy.

Don't second place finishers have tremendous advantage in the Democrat Party as well?

It has nothing to do a conspiracy, bozo. It has everything to do with the GOP's brain dead follow the leader culture.


If you build a 30-foot wall from El Paso to Brownsville, the 35-foot ladder business gets real good -- Rick Perry

jwpegler  posted on  2011-09-17   13:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#18)

...and you're going to love your new death panel.

The Tea Party is down with the whole "let him die" concept ... so whats your freakin problem?

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-09-17   18:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: jwpegler (#20)

Don't second place finishers have tremendous advantage in the Democrat Party as well?

Not so much, primarily due to the fragmented coalition that makes up the Democratic Party.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-09-19   7:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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