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Title: After Turner Earthquake in Weiner District Democrats Civil War Against Obama Begins
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Big Government
URL Source: http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart ... ivil-war-against-obama-begins/
Published: Sep 14, 2011
Author: Andrew Breitbart
Post Date: 2011-09-14 09:24:40 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: Obama-doma-ding-dong, Obamatuer Hour, Weiner, flasher, pervertocrat
Views: 20157
Comments: 51
History will never be able to tell us who made the fatal error in New York’s 9th district – Barack Obama, or Anthony Weiner. Just as Weiner kept on making critical errors every step of the way as his personal scandal unfolded earlier this year, President Obama has done everything in NY-09 to show that he is no friend of Israel and has no clue how to create jobs or learn from his many mistakes. I predict a tectonic shift among American Jews and within the Democratic Party if Obama doesn’t quietly retire. All the spinning in the world can’t spin away the trend of Scott Brown, the Tea Party victory of November 2010, and now the Turner earthquake. Many Democrats are awakening to the reality that their party has been hijacked by a radicalism completely unfamiliar to their parents’ and grandparents’ Democratic Party. An internal, partisan civil war is now brewing in that party. What I think tonight is less important than what Joe Lieberman, Bill Clinton, Evan Bayh, and the rest of the former, and now defunct, reasonable wing of the Democratic Party is thinking tonight.
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#1. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)
Bottom line. uberl Liberal attempts at spinning this series of obvious political disasters is now a 'force multiplier' politically. It will only infuriate voters even more.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
How do you explain more dems winning office since November of 2010 than republicans?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Turner won because of Israel and the Jews interest of that district are from the Likudnik side of the aisle. When Weiner was in office, he was pro Israel's Likudnik right wing govt even though he was a liberal at home. For example, Weiner took on the Likudnik position on Turkey as his own and went ballistic against Turkey during the flotilla fiasco. That kind of think can only make sense if you understand that the parts of Brooklyn that District is made up of is linked to Israel very directly. Here is an example from Salon: Anthony Weiner calls Turkey our "former ally": Congress' new liberal hero continues his unreasonable support for Israel's right-wing government (June 2010). http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/06/03/weiner_turkey_ally Turner was just there. This is AIPAC's Likud wing sending Obama a message.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
Everything after this is irrelevant. Whats great is liberals trying to SPIN IT as anything other than an unmitigated political disaster. You guys simply don't understand that just pisses off voters even more. Works for me, please keep doing this 'denial of reality' talking points stuff for the next 14 months. Thanks in advance (I know to thank you now, cause you have no choice in the matter)
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
I am not a registered Democrat nor do I live there and Turner's policies on Israel will be no different than Weiner's was or the D guy that lost would have been. I do find it funny you guys seeing this as some sort of triumph - same as when the Democrats viewed winning that seat in upstate NY against a Republican as a triumph for the Democrats.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
I find it helpful you ignore the warning signs since Scott Brown.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Like he is any different than a Democrat would have been? There is a difference in that the GOP currently is the kook party but Brown is a centrist from MA.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
rotflmao. Rationalizing these historic losses just ticks off voters more with you Democrats. Please continue...but you don't have to ping me. I already know what you will post on this angle. Its the same thing since Brown's win.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Riiight...my neighbor just the other day declared that if he heard anyone rationalizing anything that was political in nature then he was going to get just so, so, so angry... You really do "say" stupid things Boofer... Hilarious too...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
All presidents lose midterm elections - so nothing historic about it. Obama's victory was a historic one - record number of Americans voted for Obama as president. NY9 voted as it did for Israel related reasons against Obama.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
So what? Both parties are the same, right?
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
If you think that, well, its just another example of why I refer to you as 'goofy'.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Let me ask - are you a pro-football fan? If you are, chances are your favorite team has a rivalry. (a hundred years ago when the Buffalo Bills were actually good, they had a fierce rivalry with the Miami Dolphins. Now, given that both teams suck, it doesn't matter.) Watch what happens in a typical rivalry game. Tackles are tougher, the trash talk is meaner, the hits are harder. The "fans" are more rabid - even some fights break out in the stands. But what happens at the end? The players shake hands, pat each other's butts, and go off the field. Most importantly - the players cash their multi-million dollar checks. (They do play in the same league - the NFL - after all) USA politics circa 2011 is about as meaningful - and we "fans" are about as relevant.
__________________________________________________________________________________________ If Obama wasn't black, he would have a serious challenger in the Democrat primary. He won't have a serious challenger because if he did, the party would erupt into a civil war.
No. Football analogies are lost on me.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
He won't have a serious challenger because Democrats realize that would result in a GOP win.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
He won't have a serious challenger because if he did, the party would erupt into a civil war. Really? You need to to show us some recent evidence, say in the last fifty years, for this presidential incumbent 'serious challenger' stuff for either party.
JWechochamber probably has you on Bozo.
Teddy Kennedy challenged Carter in 79-80. It certainly didn't help an already damaged Carter. Had Kennedy not imploded on national TV, he probably would have wrested the nomination from old Jimmah.
__________________________________________________________________________________________ Had Kennedy not imploded on national TV, he probably would have wrested the nomination from old Jimmah. Teddy would in no way ever have been a serious presidential contender. But it appeared he WAS willing to be the scapegoat if needed.
The millions of GOP fundraising letters (that I used to get when I was still a 'pub) say otherwise . . .
__________________________________________________________________________________________ Sorry, but a dead woman less than eleven years before ended his serious presidential challenger aspirations, putting all the GOP fund raising hype aside.
In 1980, Teddy Kennedy seriously challenged a sitting President of his own party named Jimmy Carter. ditto for Ronald Reagan seriously challenging Jerry Ford in 1976. This is why I don't usually respond to you. A.) You are are ignorant of history. B.) You are too lazy to look things up for yourself. C.) You are a foolish ideologue that refuses to objectively evaluate facts.
D) nobody is this ignorant of politics, you just like to waste other people's time.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
Yep, and don't forget Reagan challenging Jerry Ford in 1976.
Sure they are. Watch the Jay Walking segments on Leno or the similar street engagement segments on Stossel. People are this ignorant. What makes whinyold, loonymom, and gooberson unique is that they are ignorant of the facts and also too stupid / ideological to objectively evaluate whatever facts are presented to them.
While I cringe whenever Leno, or Hannity do that stunt, nobody hangs out in political chat rooms day after day and not know this stuff. I think its about waste the time of those they disagree with in a lot of these instances. Neverless every point you make is indisputable based on the available evidence in the database.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
I completely understand your point. You think that they are purposefully being malicious -- trying to waste our time. I think that they are just stupid. In either case, we shouldn't be arguing with them because it's a complete waste of time.
You actually think Reagan would have stepped out of the California governorship to run against Ford? You are still too naive to be taken seriously on these forums. Wannabet you put me back on bozo as soon as you did your hit and run? I'll win that one too.
I usually don't, and yep, you are correct.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
In your defense you rarely do argue a point... You usually just take a beating on it...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
He DID you idiot. It went to the 1976 RNC CONVENTION. The GOP pulled out all the stops to ensure Ford received the nomination on the first vote to STOP REAGAN, because they knew a second ballot would most likely result in Reagan unseating Ford as the nominee. Good Lord, JW is correct. You really are ignorant of poltical history.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
It went to the 1976 RNC CONVENTION. The GOP pulled out all the stops to ensure Ford received the nomination on the first vote to STOP REAGAN, because they knew a second ballot would most likely result in Reagan unseating Ford as the nominee. Good Lord, JW is correct. You really are ignorant of poltical history. It was Reagan as his theatrical best, and you bought it.
What, are they too right-wing for you?
To:Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro From: Capitalist Eric Message: You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD. Good Lord, JW is correct. You really are ignorant of poltical history. Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
What makes whinyold, loonymom, and gooberson unique is that they are ignorant of the facts and also too stupid / ideological to objectively evaluate whatever facts are presented to them. After many years in denial, I have come to believe people are just as ignorant as Republicons think they are.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Shit, you just described every leftist loser on this forum! *ATTENTION LEFTIST MORONS! *ATTENTION LEFTIST MORONS! *ATTENTION LEFTIST MORONS! Please pick up the white courtesy phone, pinging you to the reality of WHY you leftist morons are so dangerous!
To:Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro From: Capitalist Eric Message: You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD. JW is correct a lot. Like Rick Perry, I admit when I am wrong. :):):):):) Admitting when you are wrong is an asset in a transparent society.
Unfortunately, you don't often recognize when you're wrong.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
You want to scare Washington, vote Socialist party.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
Yep. Worth noting ming didn't, and appears can't.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
See 'irony' in the dictionary, goofy.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
I'd post the definition but Stone doesn't want any pics of you here...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
nobody hangs out in political chat rooms day after day and not know this stuff I completely understand your point. You think that they are purposefully being malicious -- trying to waste our time. I think that they are just stupid. In either case, we shouldn't be arguing with them because it's a complete waste of time. Seems to me that these gibbering libTURD SCUM are both malicious and stooooopid. You can't "discuss" anything with SCUM such as this. They don't even believe in "objective TRUTH". They LIE as easily as they breathe.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
ce; What, are they too right-wing for you? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPANG! Boner breaker! Right through the shoulders! No running from there! (Whine about it goober, it's Moose season here and we ALL have it on our minds!) LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Most of them lie because their ego's simply can't allow admissions as it relate to the truth about themselves in my experience. Hence the screen names. Its Walter Mitty on steroids.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
He was totally oblivious... LOL.
To:Skippy, toe-jam, old man Fred Alzheimers Mertz, _jim, loonymom/ming, e-type-jackoff, goober56, Wrek, calcon, dummy DwarF, continental op, Biff, gobsheit and meguro From: Capitalist Eric Message: You're SOCIALIST morons. ESAD. I must say that I do think you are correct about that. Alot of people live in bubbles which makes objective truth dangerous to their own delusions. Not just libTURDS. Of course MOST libTURDS do. I also believe that they are so insecure and fragile and lacking in individuality that they HAVE to be RIGHT ALL OF THE TIME! Because when all is said and done, in their wittle bird like "minds" at least, they are "superior" to you and me, because they are libTURDS and we aren't. Imo libTURDISM is a terminal mental disease. As it is applied and exists right now in the west and America, it's closer to a RELIGION than to a PHILOSOPHY. libTURDS are INSANE.
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
LOL! Well ......... ya know ........ bro ... "The TRUTH hurts!" (Lucky, in this case, that it only hurts HIM!) ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
All the spinning in the world can’t spin away the trend of Scott Brown, the Tea Party victory of November 2010, and now the Turner earthquake.
#2. To: Badeye (#1)
All the spinning in the world can’t spin away the trend of Scott Brown, the Tea Party victory of November 2010, and now the Turner earthquake.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#3. To: Badeye, Happy Quanzaa, war (#1)
(Edited)
#4. To: Godwinson (#3)
Turner won
#5. To: Badeye (#4)
Everything after this is irrelevant.
#6. To: Godwinson (#5)
#7. To: Badeye (#6)
I find it helpful you ignore the warning signs since Scott Brown.
#8. To: Godwinson (#7)
#9. To: Badeye (#8)
Rationalizing these historic losses just ticks off voters more with you Democrats.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#10. To: Badeye, war (#8)
Rationalizing these historic losses just ticks off voters more with you Democrats.
#11. To: Badeye (#8)
rotflmao. Rationalizing these historic losses just ticks off voters more with you Democrats.
#12. To: lucysmom (#11)
So what? Both parties are the same, right?
#13. To: lucysmom (#11)
So what? Both parties are the same, right?
ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!
#14. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)
Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy
#15. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#13)
...are you a pro-football fan?
#16. To: jwpegler (#14)
He won't have a serious challenger because if he did, the party would erupt into a civil war.
#17. To: jwpegler (#14)
If Obama wasn't black, he would have a serious challenger in the Democrat primary.
#18. To: lucysmom (#16)
He won't have a serious challenger because Democrats realize that would result in a GOP win.
#19. To: mininggold (#17)
Really? You need to to show us some recent evidence, say in the last fifty years, for this presidential incumbent 'serious challenger' stuff for either party.
ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!
#20. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#19)
(Edited)
Teddy Kennedy challenged Carter in 79-80. It certainly didn't help an already damaged Carter.
#21. To: mininggold (#20)
Ted would in no way ever have been a serious presidential contender.
ABC NEWS: [Ron Paul] added that the United States is in 130 countries and has 900 bases around the world, and added that “we’re broke.”. He was booed at a Tea-Party debate.
Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Statist and all ships at sea. Your demonization of the Tea Party has worked - you need no longer fear it! Carry on!!
#22. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#21)
The millions of GOP fundraising letters (that I used to get when I was still a 'pub) say otherwise . . .
#23. To: mininggold, nolan chan, capitalist eric, (#17)
(Edited)
You need to to show us some recent evidence, say in the last fifty years, for this presidential incumbent 'serious challenger' stuff for either party.
Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy
#24. To: All, Get Outta Dodge!, Badeye, nolu chan, CZ82 (#23)
Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy
#25. To: jwpegler (#23)
This is why I don't usually respond to you. A.) You are are ignorant of history. B.) You are too lazy to look things up for yourself. C.) You are a foolish ideologue that refuses to objectively evaluate facts.
#26. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#19)
Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy
#27. To: Badeye (#25)
nobody is this ignorant of politics
Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy
#28. To: jwpegler (#27)
What makes whinyold, loonymom, and gooberson unique is that they are ignorant of the facts and also too stupid / ideological to objectively evaluate whatever facts are presented to them.
#29. To: Badeye (#28)
nobody hangs out in political chat rooms day after day and not know this stuff
Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy
#30. To: jwpegler (#26)
(Edited)
Yep, and don't forget Reagan challenging Jerry Ford in 1976.
#31. To: jwpegler (#29)
In either case, we shouldn't be arguing with them because it's a complete waste of time.
#32. To: jwpegler (#29)
In either case, we shouldn't be arguing with them because it's a complete waste of time.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#33. To: mininggold (#30)
You actually think Reagan would have stepped out of the California governorship to run against Ford?
#34. To: Badeye (#33)
He DID you idiot.
#35. To: Godwinson (#5)
I am not a registered Democrat...
#36. To: mininggold (#34)
He DID you idiot. It went to the 1976 RNC CONVENTION. The GOP pulled out all the stops to ensure Ford received the nomination on the first vote to STOP REAGAN, because they knew a second ballot would most likely result in Reagan unseating Ford as the nominee.
#37. To: jwpegler (#27)
People are this ignorant.
#38. To: jwpegler, hondo68, rudgear, Happy Quanzaa, Badeye, Mad Dog, mininggold, nolu chan, war, lucysmom A K A Stone, godwinson, go65, (#23)
A.) You are are ignorant of history. B.) You are too lazy to look things up for yourself. C.) You are a foolish ideologue that refuses to objectively evaluate facts.
#39. To: Badeye (#33)
(Edited)
Good Lord, JW is correct. You really are ignorant of poltical history.
Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy
#40. To: Capitalist Eric (#38)
(Edited)
Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon Johnson were president? -- Jackie Kennedy
#41. To: jwpegler (#39)
Like Rick Perry, I admit when I am wrong. :):):):):)
#42. To: Capitalist Eric (#35)
What, are they too right-wing for you?
#43. To: jwpegler (#39)
Admitting when you are wrong is an asset in a transparent society.
#44. To: lucysmom (#41)
#45. To: Badeye (#44)
See 'irony' in the dictionary, goofy.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#46. To: jwpegler, Badeye (#29)
#47. To: Capitalist Eric, gooberloserton (#35)
gooberloserton; I am not a registered Democrat...
#48. To: Mad Dog (#46)
They LIE as easily as they breathe.
#49. To: Mad Dog (#47)
#50. To: Badeye (#48)
Most of them lie because their ego's simply can't allow admissions as it relate to the truth about themselves in my experience.
#51. To: Capitalist Eric (#49)
He IS totally oblivious ...
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