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Title: Disapproval Rate for Congress at Record 82% After Debt Talks
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New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/05/us/politics/05poll.html
Published: Aug 4, 2011
Author: MICHAEL COOPER and MEGAN THEE-BRENAN
Post Date: 2011-08-05 10:19:13 by lucysmom
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The debate over raising the debt ceiling, which brought the nation to the brink of default, has sent disapproval of Congress to its highest level on record and left most Americans saying that creating jobs should now take priority over cutting spending, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll. A record 82 percent of Americans now disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job — the most since The Times first began asking the question in 1977, and even more than after another political stalemate led to a shutdown of the federal government in 1995. snip The Republicans compromised too little, a majority of those polled said. All told, 72 percent disapproved of the way Republicans in Congress handled the negotiations, while 66 percent disapproved of the way Democrats in Congress handled negotiations. The public was more evenly divided about how Mr. Obama handled the debt ceiling negotiations: 47 percent disapproved and 46 percent approved. Poster Comment: Democrats ain't doing so good - only Republicans are doing worse.
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#1. To: Badeye, A K A Stone, hondo68, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, Capitalist Eric, Mininggold (#0)
If the "will of the people" means anything, it looks like taxes are on the way up for the wealthy.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
The problem alway is that it's the other guy's representative who's a worthless POS, not mine. That's why these jerks have 95% re-election rate.
It doesn't. I've often heard democracy described as "two wolves and a sheep deciding on what's for dinner." That's why we have a representative republic, with the established boundaries set by the Constitution. People, by and large, are too easily led around by the nose- manipulated, if you will- by propaganda. The representative republic is the model implemented, to avoid 51% of the people creating tyranny for the other 49%. [Since 51% of Americans don't pay taxes, so they have NO problem with raising the taxes on the other 49%!] One need only look at you, to understand the wisdom of representative republic model. $250K a year is not "wealthy." Basically, oBOMBa is suckering the stupid, saying "we're gonna' tax anyone who makes more than YOU." And you're just dumb enough to believe it... Guess what- half of Americans don't work, so the productive class has to pay for them... So what it really means, is that the taxes are gonna' be raised on those that actually work, and given to those that do NOT work. More leftist bullshit, really... "rob Peter to pay Paul..." AFTER I get a cut. You leftist idiots deserve all the misery that's coming your way. I mean that. Sincerely.
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984: War is peace. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... THEIR God... is the STATE.
Do you mean don't pay INCOME taxes? How many of that % are children, elderly and disabled?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Ain't that the truth.
Chuckles...you've correctly predicted what's coming their way 1,098,843,562,909 of the last 0 times...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
The good news is that no one involved in the poll is running things. The bad news is that their elected D&R officials are. You can count on D's and R's to do the wrong thing. The sheeple love corrupt politicians who serve the interests of global corporations and banksters. Michelle hObama's plan to end obesity is winning! There are less fat people in third world banana republics, and we're almost there. An FDA SWAT team will be along soon to confiscate any health food you have left.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
DoD Gates, couple months ago: "Public Opinion doesn't matter." Next...8D
If the "will of the people" means anything, it looks like taxes are on the way up for the wealthy. We'll have Civil Class War first... O wait...we are... # Warren Buffett - Wikiquote en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett - Cached I don't have a problem with guilt about money. The way I see it is that my money .... Both my children and I won what I call the ovarian lottery. .... all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning. ... #
Mine's Mike Thompson and in my area if you aren't grape growers you don't exist.
It is when you consider that median income for dual income households in the US is $67,000. Of course, why should we consider what half of American households have to get by on, they're all losers according to you and your ilk.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
We love big spenders.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
O wait...we are... yep
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Me and my ilk, are the hosts that you and YOUR ilk (the parasite class) depend on, for survival. Never forget that.
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984: War is peace. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... THEIR God... is the STATE.
Never forget that. Aye, aye, mein führer.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
I've predicted what'S coming their way MANY times... and they're getting it RIGHT NOW. You leftists think that you're representative of the common people... Because YOU are quite common... And in this way, you're correct. The meaning of "common," is the key... Common, as in H.L. Mencken was referring to you, when he said "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." INDEED.
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984: War is peace. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... THEIR God... is the STATE.
Since 90% of the population do not control any resources in America this nation is an oligarchy rather than a republic.
With the economy still in the dumper -- maybe permanently? -- and full-time jobs becoming as scarce as rain during a drought, huge percentages of Americans have had their (misplaced) faith in the American dream shaken, the upper-middle-class consumerist lifestyle is exposed as a mirage for anybody who plays by the rules. Capitalism and the America that embraced it as a way of life is now and forever more a failure. It does me good to know that the generation that voted in Reagan and his ideology will see their America die from that ideology before their very own eyes and knowing they had a hand in its destruction.
Riiight, Eric. You're omnipotent...thanks to Viagara...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
I don't live in a democracy...I live in a republic.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
Poor Eric, even his attempts at illustrative homilies fall flat.
I think it's actually a much lower percentage than 90%.
Don't forget that, asshole. Your demonstrations of willful ignorance provide me with endless entertainment. Thanks for playing, loony.
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984: War is peace. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... THEIR God... is the STATE.
You have far too much anger in your for that to be true..
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...
a : falling below ordinary standards : second-rate or b : lacking refinement : coarse Common also means 4 a: widespread, general b: characterized by a lack of privilege or special status c: just satisfying accustomed criteria : elementary You do seem to lack common decency.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Thanks for playing, loony. Evidently you also are unable to express the words that backs up your expressed behavior. I hope your boss is paying attention.
This has nothing to do with this thread, but as I drive around California it worries me seeing how much agricultural land has been given over to grape growers. If we get any kind of grape parasite or fungus here this entire industry is going to be in the tank. Maybe I'm wrong since it hasn't happened yet, but when I see mile upon mile of grape vines with no other crop acting as a buffer zone it bothers me.
You complain, not because I fail to show "decency," but because I fail to show you the respect you seem to think you automatically deserve. I treat you with the contempt and scorn that you really deserve, and I don't hide it. You're a contemptible, odious little parasite. You seem to think that because the government has stolen your retirement money, you can steal my money. Oh, sure... you don't want to be a "burden" to your family... but you have absolutely NO qualms about being a burden to MY family, DO you? If it means that my kids have to starve, so you can sit on your fat ass, eating twinkies, that's perfectly alright with you. You are the ultimate parasite, and I treat you in the exact manner you TRULY deserve.
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984: War is peace. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... THEIR God... is the STATE.
That's called "projection." I have a steadfast resolve, to NOT be a slave to your socialist wet-dreams. There are a shitload of people out there, just like me, who will be quite happy to lay down your life, to make that fact clear. You and your ilk are on very, very thin ice.
It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984: War is peace. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... THEIR God... is the STATE.
A Contra indicator...;}
This is insane. And yet exactly what the Top 50 000 believe: "#14. To: lucysmom (#11) you and your ilk... Me and my ilk, are the hosts that you and YOUR ilk (the parasite class) depend on, for survival. Never forget that. It used to be the leftists that had bumper-stickers that said things like "Question Authority.' Today they follow slogans from 1984: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. They blindly LOVE Big Brother. They believe competition, pride & profiting from ones labor, are evil things to be banished. Stephen King observed, "The beauty of religion mania is that it has the power to explain everything... [so] logic can be happily tossed out the window. This describes socialists. They will ignore logic and "common sense." They will ignore REALITY. Because THEY are religious zealots... THEIR God... is the STATE. Capitalist Eric
I wish you wouldn't do this. I have Mad Eric bozoed for a reason, then you go and re-post his rants.
And then the Selection of 2000, still unsolved... 9/11, still unsolved...COG State of Emergency... renewed every year....superceding the Constitution... Anthrax, still unsolved... Invasion the Afghans/Iraq/ 4 other wars....not called wars.... Katrina...Shock Doctrine...never let a crisis go to waste... Lehman/AIG Insurance on Debt designed never to pay off... Depression 07.... FedRes explodes Balance Sheet by $16.1 Trillion...at least.... $7.75 Trillion going to Merrill, BofA, Citi, Morgan Stanley... 3 years of extend/pretend.... And now the POTUS will oversea a USA Debt Downgrade this PM, after setting up the SS/Medicare for gutting... So that the World's Largest Military can have the World's Largest Budget... Making the European Financial Stability Facility almost 6 times bigger (€440 billion to €2.5 trillion) than it isn't even yet, but is at least supposed to become, is a dead on arrival idea. Germany won't accept that, Holland won't, Finland won't. " Sunday PM...Think August 1914...1931...1937...1941....
Why is this a secret? GOP Tries To Shift Blame For S&P Downgrade Of US Creditworthiness TPMDC - 1 hour ago An ABC News report suggests US officials are prepping for the credit rating agency S&P to downgrade the country's AAA bond rating to either AA or AA+. ... 160 related articles Govt officials: US expecting S&P downgrade -- based on "serious ...46; - ABC News (blog) US Braces for Possible S&P Downgrade: Sources46; - CNBC.com
You didn't think that anything worse could come out of DC this week... Now Didja? Just exponentially worse than saying 'the SS checks won't go out Aug 2, and Congress is not going to lift the Debt Ceiling....
Read: They can't find the S&P guy that made that call. The FBI is in the S&P Building looking. Told the guy used to work at the Texas Book Depository but had gone to a movie....8D
It was a priceless 'Truman Defeated ' Rant. Won't happen again....8D
The FBI is in the S&P Building looking. Told the guy used to work at the Texas Book Depository but had gone to a movie....8D James, a sense of humor is a good thing; otherwise, we'd all be crying.
but I'm serious....not....;} (CBS/AP) Credit rating agency Standard & Poor's says it has downgraded the United States' credit rating for the first time in the history of the ratings. Debtors will find out Monday that they've got a 1/2 to Full Point added to their % rate.
Social Security income 2010 - $677.1 billion; paid out - $584.9 billion; net gain - $92.2 billion. Total assets - $2,429.0 trillion. If anyone has stolen money, it's YOU! Money has been borrowed from SS to keep your taxes artificially low, now you squeal like a stuck pig when it's time to pay back.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
You sound paranoid as well as angry.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Maybe mininggold can give us an accurate diagnosis.
Some people over-value their importance in the world while devaluing the contributions made by common men and women they despise. "Some animals are more equal than others" - Eric is of the more equal ilk.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
14% approval rating for Congress, 18% approval rating for the tea party. Obama is sitting pretty even with his poor approval rating, thanks to the clowns in the GOP.
Tagline for sale - inquire within
;} And the real laugh riot is that w/o debt their importance vaporizes. Which is why the pretzel logic for the past 4 years. The rich deserve the Bail outs. The poor never deserve theirs....;}
Ha! and bonuses for being clever enough to get the bailout, while the wage earner is a deadbeat when he defaults on his mortgage because he was laid off when the economy tanked due to the machinations of the guy who got the bonus.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Better than a tax increase for the wealthy is an interest rate hike on the common man.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
Better than a tax increase for the wealthy is an interest rate hike on the in debt man... A place to stay and no debt and you're one of the wealthy Amerikans now. Wonder what the Third World's like? Wonder no more....;}
Gonna be REAL hard for the Imperial City to explain how we need to keep sending $3 Billion a year to Israel....;}
And forget the Somali's. Start contributing to the Get the Troops Home fund...;}
Then cut the SS/Medicare/Unemnployment.... Like a baby throwing matches at a pool of gasoline surrounding a captured Iranian Arms Shipment in Cyprus....8D
The wealthy can't stand the idea that $2.4 trillion borrowed from Social Security needs to be paid back.
"...all of the equations in neoclassical economics are rubbish. The differential equations describe nothing. Economics is not about mathematics, it is about the human being." Sandeep Jaitly
And this: We 'got' our AAA in 1917. We entered WWI in 1917. We then 'lost' it. Don't know how yet. Bet it was the New Deal...;} Then we 'got' it back in 1941.... 1941. 1941. WTF happened in 1941... Ever thought you were being played? 8D US loses AAA rating for first time | Radio Netherlands Worldwide www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/us-loses-aaa-rating-first-time-0 3 hours ago – It was the first time the US had been downgraded since it received an AAA rating from Moody's in 1917; it has held the S&P rating since 1941 ...
Sixty-three percent of those polled said that they supported raising taxes on households that earn more than $250,000 a year, as Mr. Obama has sought to do — including majorities of Democrats (80 percent), independents (61 percent) and Republicans (52 percent).
#2. To: lucysmom (#0)
Democrats ain't doing so good - only Republicans are doing worse.
#3. To: lucysmom, Badeye, A K A Stone, hondo68, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, Mininggold (#1)
If the "will of the people" means anything...
...it looks like taxes are on the way up for the wealthy.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
#4. To: Capitalist Eric (#3)
Since 51% of Americans don't pay taxes
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#5. To: Capitalist Eric (#3)
People, by and large, are too easily led around by the nose- manipulated, if you will- by propaganda.
#6. To: Capitalist Eric (#3)
You leftist idiots deserve all the misery that's coming your way.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#7. To: lucysmom (#1)
those polled
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#8. To: Capitalist Eric (#3)
If the "will of the people" means anything...
#9. To: lucysmom (#1)
#10. To: Skip Intro (#2)
(Edited)
The problem alway is that it's the other guy's representative who's a worthless POS, not mine. That's why these jerks have 95% re-election rate.
#11. To: Capitalist Eric (#3)
$250K a year is not "wealthy."
#12. To: hondo68 (#7)
You can count on D's and R's to do the wrong thing. The sheeple love corrupt politicians who serve the interests of global corporations and banksters.
#13. To: mcgowanjm (#9)
We'll have Civil Class War first...
#14. To: lucysmom (#11)
you and your ilk...
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
#15. To: Capitalist Eric (#14)
Me and my ilk, are the hosts that you and YOUR ilk (the parasite class) depend on, for survival.
#16. To: war (#6)
Chuckles...you've correctly predicted what's coming their way 1,098,843,562,909 of the last 0 times...
a : falling below ordinary standards : second-rate or
b : lacking refinement : coarse
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
#17. To: Capitalist Eric, lucysmom, Badeye, A K A Stone, hondo68, Fred Mertz, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, Mininggold (#3)
(Edited)
That's why we have a representative republic, with the established boundaries set by the Constitution.
#18. To: Capitalist Eric (#16)
I've predicted what'S coming their way MANY times... and they're getting it RIGHT NOW.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#19. To: Capitalist Eric (#16)
H.L. Mencken was referring to you, when he said "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#20. To: war, Crapitalist Eric (#19)
I don't live in a democracy...I live in a republic.
#21. To: Godwinson (#17)
Since 90% of the population do not control any resources in America this nation is an oligarchy rather than a republic.
#22. To: mininggold (#20)
war: I don't live in a democracy...I live in a republic.
LucysIDIOTmom Ming: Poor Eric, even his attempts at illustrative homilies fall flat.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
#23. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)
Your demonstrations of willful ignorance provide me with endless entertainment.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#24. To: Capitalist Eric (#16)
You leftists think that you're representative of the common people... Because YOU are quite common... And in this way, you're correct. The meaning of "common," is the key... Common, as in
#25. To: Capitalist Eric (#22)
Your demonstrations of willful ignorance provide me with endless entertainment.
#26. To: mininggold (#10)
Mine's Mike Thompson and in my area if you aren't grape growers you don't exist.
#27. To: lucysmom (#24)
You do seem to lack common decency.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
#28. To: war (#23)
You have far too much anger in your for that to be true..
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
#29. To: war (#18)
#30. To: mininggold, war, Crapitalist Eric, lucysmom, All (#20)
#31. To: mcgowanjm (#30)
#32. To: Capitalist Eric (#3)
That's why we have a representative republic, with the established boundaries set by the Constitution.
#33. To: All (#32)
#34. To: All (#33)
CNN: S&P served notice it planned to downgrade U.S. AAA rating but is reconsidering, a senior administration official says.
#35. To: All (#34)
CNN: S&P served notice it planned to downgrade U.S. AAA rating but is reconsidering, a senior administration official says.
#36. To: Skip Intro (#31)
I wish you wouldn't do this. I have Mad Eric bozoed for a reason, then you go and re-post his rants.
#37. To: mcgowanjm (#35)
They can't find the S&P guy that made that call.
#38. To: Fred Mertz (#37)
James, a sense of humor is a good thing
#39. To: Capitalist Eric (#27)
You seem to think that because the government has stolen your retirement money, you can steal my money.
#40. To: Capitalist Eric (#28)
I have a steadfast resolve, to NOT be a slave to your socialist wet-dreams.
#41. To: lucysmom, mininggold (#40)
#42. To: mcgowanjm (#30)
This is insane. And yet exactly what the Top 50 000 believe:
#43. To: lucysmom, jwpegler, skip intro, brian s (#1)
#44. To: lucysmom (#42)
Some people over-value their importance in the world while devaluing the contributions made by common men and women they despise.
#45. To: mcgowanjm (#44)
The rich deserve the Bail outs. The poor never deserve theirs....;}
#46. To: mcgowanjm (#38)
Debtors will find out Monday that they've got a 1/2 to Full Point added to their % rate.
#47. To: lucysmom (#46)
Better than a tax increase for the wealthy is an interest rate hike on the common man.
#48. To: All (#47)
#49. To: All (#48)
#50. To: lucysmom (#45)
Ha! and bonuses for being clever enough to get the bailout, while the wage earner is a deadbeat when he defaults on his mortgage because he was laid off when the economy tanked due to the machinations of the guy who got the bonus.
#51. To: mcgowanjm (#50)
Then cut the SS/Medicare/Unemnployment....
#52. To: lucysmom (#51)
(Edited)
The wealthy can't stand the idea that $2.4 trillion borrowed from Social Security needs to be paid back.
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