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Title: Police: Oslo bomb, camp shootings domestic terror (Norway's McVeigh)
Source: AP
URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2011-07-22-18-52-59
Published: Jul 22, 2011
Author: AP
Post Date: 2011-07-22 20:43:03 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 18911
Comments: 46

OSLO, Norway (AP) -- A homegrown terrorist set off an explosion that ripped open buildings in the heart of Norway's government Friday, then went to a summer camp dressed as a police officer and gunned down youths as they ran and even swam for their lives, police said Friday.

The attacks killed at least 16 people in this peaceful nation's worst violence since World War II.

A police official said the 32-year-old ethnic Norwegian suspect arrested at the camp on Utoya island appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that "it seems like that this is not linked to any international terrorist organizations at all." The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway's police.

"It seems it's not Islamic-terror related," the official said. "This seems like a madman's work."

The official said the attack "is probably more Norway's Oklahoma City than it is Norway's World Trade Center." Domestic terrorists carried out the 1995 attack on a federal building in Oklahoma City, while foreign terrorists were responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

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#1. To: godwinson, fred mertz, cz82, no gnu taxes, jwpegler, skip intro, (#0)

The suspect is Anders Behring Breivik:

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views. He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and stock analysis as interests.

Tagline for sale - inquire within

go65  posted on  2011-07-22   20:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

"One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests."

Would make a great tagline for somebody...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2011-07-22   20:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#1)

On Freerepublic they were getting ready to launch a crusade against Islam over this - and it turns out the Norwegian version of a freeper did this......

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-07-22   21:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Godwinson (#3)

On Freerepublic they were getting ready to launch a crusade against Islam over this - and it turns out the Norwegian version of a freeper did this......

Don't worry. A little thing like being totally wrong has never stopped them before.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-22   22:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#0)


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-22   23:07:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#0)

A Bill Ayers hope & change kinda guy.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-22   23:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#6)

A Bill Ayers hope & change kinda guy.

more like a freeper, at least according to the freepers.

Tagline for sale - inquire within

go65  posted on  2011-07-23   6:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: go65 (#7)

More like a ... neocom - freeper reject --- hates neocons !

A childhood friend of Breivik informs Science that he should have been right- wing in the late 20s, and posted a series of controversial opinions on Facebook.

His profile was deaktiviert after a while. He later created a new profile where it mostly is posted links to music videos.

Just before midnight, police action against the apartment as the 32-year-old outlined on Oslo’s West side. Breivik is said to have lived there with his mother.

-I put in front of the TV at home and read newspapers. All of a sudden came the police at the door and we were asked to leave the apartment immediately. I do not meet them, but seen him when he visits her mother, “said neighbor Hemen Noaman (27), who lives in the same floor.

Breivik Geofram company created in 2009, and provided that the company would engage in cultivation of vegetables, root and knoll species. With the company within the industry, one can gain access to large amounts of fertilizers.

In June/July month shift he moved out of the apartment on the western edge and the rural Rena, Hedmark.

Critical of islam

In the debates Mark Anders Behring Breivik as well-read, with strong opinions about Norwegian politics. He promotes very conservative opinions, which he also calls the nationalist. He expressed himself strongly opposed multiculturalism – that cultural differences can live together in a community.

Breivik has had a lot of posts on the website Document, which is a islamkritisk site that publishes news and commentary.

In one of the posts he expresses that policy today no longer revolves around socialism against capitalism, but the fight is between nationalism and internationalism.

He expresses clear support for the nationalist mindset.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2752623/posts?q=1&;page=51

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-07-23   8:53:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Godwinson (#3)

The cuckoo's nest is still blaming Muslims too.

A movie about the losing VP candidate is called "The Undefeated"?

Bartcoprules  posted on  2011-07-23   9:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#7)

like a freeper, at least according to the freepers

Don't listen to freepers or your brain will turn into neo-lib mush.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-23   10:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Brian S (#2)

5th Gen Warfare definition...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   11:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Bartcoprules (#9)

And McVeigh wasn't alone either...;}

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/

As usual, the media drags the usual 'terrorism' 'experts' out from the rocks under which they usually hide to expound in learned detail, on the basis of absolutely no evidence whatever, what obscure CIA asset branch of 'al Qaeda' must be responsible. It is pure racism, and wouldn't be tolerated against any other identifiable group.

We're used to some fairly pathetic attacks, but this guy is a champ. Blows up a building, and then for an encore kills over 80 people. With a rifle? By himself? Hmm.

"Norway backs Palestine bid at UN; gets bombed 5 days later"

"Norway To Back Palestinian State":

"The all-too coincidential timing of this political event with Friday’s tragic bombing and shooting by a Christian Zionist has been mostly ignored by mainstream media."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   11:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#12) (Edited)

Norway backs Palestinian bid for UN recognition in September ... www.whatreallyhappened.or...cks-palestinian-bid-un-...

Jul 22, 2011 – Norway backs Palestinian bid for UN recognition in September. Norwegian FM says 'it is perfectly legitimate' for Palestinian president to ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   11:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mcgowanjm (#12) (Edited)

tragic bombing and shooting by a Christian Zionist

Christian Zionist no, Freemason yes.

http://www.infowars.com/norway-killer-anders-behring-breivik-was-a-freemason/


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-23   11:37:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: hondo68 (#14)

Christian Zionist no, Freemason yes.

They're not mutually exclusive.

I want the words

False Flag Terror

to come out of talking heads' Mouths as fast as

Al Qaeda.

" The false flag terror card is getting harder to play. Police have been exposed being provocateurs trying to demonize peaceful protesters. In every attack in government-sponsored terrorism, there is the same pattern of it just being a drill when it is found out later. How does the government benefit? The underwear bomber was allowed on the plane by orders from high-level government officials. The reason is so they can put the Full Body scanners in the major Airports. Also, to put Airline Passengers through an intrusive groping by the TSA as a condition to board a plane. The more false flag terror is exposed, the harder for the government to act when everyone is watching. The alternative media have been on this for a long time asking the questions that need to asked, finding the answers no one in the mainstream media will look at. The government is losing and just about to lose another card to play, that is false flag terror."

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   11:46:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: hondo68 (#14)

The Vatican, the Mafia & the P2 Masonic Lodge pt.4/5 ...

www.propheticalert.org/.../1811149-the-vatican-the-mafia-amp-the-... - Cached Jan 15, 2009 – At the centre of the bank's failure was its chairman, Roberto Calvi and his membership in the illegal masonic lodge Propaganda Due. Vatican ...

Norway Palestinian State is what I'm going with...

And 1 person killing over 80 plus wounded all by his lonesome is a tough act.

Count to 80...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   11:49:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mcgowanjm (#15)

The discussion of politics and religion is forbidden within a Masonic Lodge, in part so a Mason will not be placed in the situation of having to justify his personal interpretation.[29] Thus, reference to the Supreme Being can mean the Christian Trinity to a Christian Mason, Allah to a Muslim Mason, Para Brahman to a Hindu Mason, etc

Could have been a muslim mason terrorist, but more likely the facebook page was created in the white house basement by a chicom. It's not totally hObama's fault, since he's a holdover employee from the Bush administration.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-23   12:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: hondo68, mcgowanjm (#14) (Edited)

Christian Zionist no, Freemason yes.

It's already coming out from his own writings in various journals that he was an uber Zionist.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-23   12:20:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mcgowanjm (#16) (Edited)

Norway Palestinian State is what I'm going with...

See one of his rantings here.

www.brusselsjournal.com/node/439 2

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-23   12:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold (#19) (Edited)

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4392

Oh yeah, there's an unbiased source, NOT.

A really weak false flag propaganda effort. Only a few sheeple will be fooled.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-23   12:43:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#20)

Multiculturalism does not work anywhere. All the money in the world can be thrown at government intervention in this grand idea to seamlessly integrate various factions into a unified society but it has failed everywhere around the world.

The problems of government force mandating requirements to integrate others in a society alienates those already participating as law-abiding citizens. It always has and always will.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-07-23   12:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: hondo68 (#17) (Edited)

Could have been a muslim mason terrorist,

could've been an Alien from the Planetary Underground.

But Occam's Razor:

False Flag, Palestinian State, Patsy.

Count to 80. Plus 150 for wounded...

After you've blown up a State Building.

All by yourself....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   12:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: All (#22)

A posted on the Guardian blog noted the following incident occurred 'less than two minutes drive' from the premises of the dead whistleblower -

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-e...

Jul 17, 2010

"Three men flee scene of fatal crash in Hertfordshire".

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   13:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#23) (Edited)

"Who Was Behind the Anthrax Attacks?" (my emphasis in red):

"The harassment of Dr. Assaad ended in a lawsuit, and the members of the “Camel Club” – as they called themselves – voluntarily left Ft. Detrick after the case was settled out of court. Yet the harassment didn’t end, it only paused – until, years later, the Camel Club struck again, in the form of the Quantico letter, accusing Assaad of being the evil Arab mastermind behind the anthrax attacks.

That this letter reached Quantico after the anthrax letters had been mailed, but before their existence was public knowledge, is the kind of mistake which should have caught up with the real perpetrators long before now. The question is: why hasn’t it?

What’s scary is that the real perpetrators are still out there. Are they getting ready to strike again – and why is our own government standing in the way of re-opening the investigation? Just thinking about it sends a shiver down my spine"

It is always hilarious when the only group with a motive to promote a War For The Jews is protected from any serious criminal investigation.

xymphora

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   13:19:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: All (#24)

Tuesday, July 19, 2011 Another conspiracy day "DOJ casts serious doubt on its own claims about the anthrax attack" Ivans didn't have access to the equipment he would have needed to weaponize the anthrax, and couldn't have processed the volume required without being noticed. Ha!

"Rebekah Brooks' husband 'accidentally' has computer thrown out" "Police examine bag found in bin near Rebekah Brooks's home" Refreshingly amateurish. Of course, the Murdoch empire has never had to rely on finesse, when all that brute power, including blackmail, was available.

"News of the World phone-hacking whistleblower found dead" Police find nothing at all suspicious. The timing of this is a Murdoch warning to others, guaranteed.

And on and on and on.....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   13:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mcgowanjm (#25)

You need to work the Amy Winehouse death into your posts on this thread. I'm sure you can tie it all together.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-23   13:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: hondo68 (#20)

Oh yeah, there's an unbiased source, NOT.

A really weak false flag propaganda effort. Only a few sheeple will be fooled.

He's all over the internet, but why should that bother you?

The source you object to didn't report on the guy, it published his own rants.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-23   13:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: go65 (#1) (Edited)

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" i

"Right-wing" means what???

Libertarian -- NO government.

European Social Conservatives (same as the GOP) -- spineless wimps who have compromised with the left to grow government at home and abroad, only a little more slowly.

Fascist -- TOTAL government, just like the Communists.

Left wing means more government. It's very clear.

What does "right-wing" mean??? It means nothing. The so-called "right" is too complicated to fit into a single definition.


To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. — Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2011-07-23   19:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Skip Intro (#26)

I'm sure you can tie it all together.

Thanx for askin', Skip.

Amy Heroin Karzai Bro 2nd Largest the Afghans

US Invaded 9/11 2000 Selection

and....wait for it...

Murdochalypse...

For 30 years America has been told that Debt doesn't matter. That Wealth Disparity and 'Free Trade' would lift all boats...

LMFAO BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

How about that? skip...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   20:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: go65 (#0)

.

LOL!

You foul gibbering libTURD phuckwads are soiling yourselves trying to hang this on somebody with different politics than yourselves.

Just like you always do, you scream and yell, and run around like bunch of headless chickens.

Then, as the FACTS slowly come out, the FACTS will prove you stoopid gibbering libTURD assholes wrong again.

You phuckwads are so stoopid you couldn't pour piss out a boot even if the instructions were written on the sole.

What a bunch of vile stoooooooooooopid libTURD phuckwads.

You are good for giggles, I'll give you that.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-07-23   21:05:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: jwpegler (#28)

What does "right-wing" mean???

you....;}

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   21:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: All (#31)

Mc Veigh

OUT THE LIARS: Mike Loudenslager, Terrance Yeakey, Dr. Don Chumley ... outtheliars.blogspot.com/.../mike-loudenslager-terrance-yeakey-dr.h... - Cached Apr 2, 2006 – Among them were Oklahoma City police officers, Terrance Yeakey, ... Shortly after the bombing, Michael Loudenslager was actively helping in the rescue and recovery effort. A large number of those at the bomb-site either saw or talked ... This, mind you, after he'd already been seen alive and well by ...

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mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   21:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: All (#31)

Mc Veigh

OUT THE LIARS: Mike Loudenslager, Terrance Yeakey, Dr. Don Chumley ... outtheliars.blogspot.com/...er-terrance-yeakey-dr.h... - Cached Apr 2, 2006 – Among them were Oklahoma City police officers, Terrance Yeakey, ... Shortly after the bombing, Michael Loudenslager was actively helping in the rescue and recovery effort. A large number of those at the bomb-site either saw or talked ... This, mind you, after he'd already been seen alive and well by ...

BREAKING NEWS Norway killer mason spoke into headset and used ... www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1570440/pg1

29 posts - 4 authors - Last post: 18 hours ago Discussion about BREAKING NEWS Norway killer mason spoke into headset and used silencer killd 80 up at the GodlikeProductions Conspiracy ...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   21:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mcgowanjm, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#33)

Norway killer mason spoke into headset and used silencer killd 80 up at the GodlikeProductions Conspiracy ...

Also talk of a second shooter, on the grassy knoll, or somewhere. I bet Herbie Bush still remembers how to speed rack a Carcano, where was he yesterday?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-07-23   21:32:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: hondo68 (#34)

Yes.

" We are ready to recognize a Palestinian state. I await the actual resolution text Palestinians will promote the UN General Assembly in September, said the Minister.

In autumn it is expected that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas will bring the matter to the UN. He is expected to ask for UN membership and recognition of a Palestinian state within the borders before the 1967 war, with East Jerusalem as its capital.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   21:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: hondo68 (#34)

Norway killer mason spoke into headset and used silencer killd 80 up at the GodlikeProductions Conspiracy ...

Still checking the Head Set Link.

Breivik did not act alone.

And you believe that Oswald killed JFK, you're a fool...just sayin'...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   21:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: hondo68 (#34)

img]

JFK assassination: Secret Service Standdown

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8

And of course the Unedited Zapruder film.

but you keep 'em comin, Tex...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   22:05:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: hondo68, All (#34)

Norway killer mason spoke into headset and used silencer killd 80 up at the GodlikeProductions Conspiracy ...

Also talk of a second shooter, on the grassy knoll, or somewhere. I bet Herbie Bush still remembers how to speed rack a Carcano, where was he yesterday?

Standing at the center of the Warren Commission's conclusion that Oswald was the lone gunman is the so-called single bullet theory, a theory generally credited to commission member Arlen Specter, later a U.S. Senator. According to the commission, a single 6.5 mm Western Case Cartridge Company bullet, Warren Commission Exhibit 399, caused all of the nonfatal wounds both to Kennedy and, an instant later, to Connally. The single bullet theory was crucial to the commission's conclusion because it precluded the existence of another shooter. Oswald was using a bolt-action rifle, so it would have been impossible for him to fire two shots virtually simultaneously. Two bullets would have meant two gunmen.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   22:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mcgowanjm (#29)

How about that? skip...;}

See, I knew you could do it.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-07-23   22:15:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Skip Intro (#39)

How about that? skip...;}

See, I knew you could do it.

So easy, like reciting history...;}

" By Philip Weiss on July 23, 2011

Amazing. Neoconservative Washington Post blogger Jennifer Rubin blames the Norwegian horror on jihadists, and Jim Fallows nails her. Rubin:

We don’t know if al Qaeda was directly responsible for today’s events, but in all likelihood the attack was launched by part of the jihadist hydra.

She says we need to keep funding the war on terror and drags Gary Schmitt of American Enterprise Institute into it. He says: “But as the attack in Oslo reminds us, there are plenty of al-Qaeda allies still operating. No doubt cutting the head off a snake is important; the problem is, we’re dealing with global nest of snakes.”

Fallows:

Seven Seventeen hours after the Post item went up, six sixteen hours after its claims were shown to be false and hysterical, it’s still there, with no correction or apology.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   22:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: All (#40)

August 18, 2010 — MJ Rosenberg

I don’t know why I am at all surprised that the American Right — including the Republican Party — has decided that scapegoating Muslims is the ticket to success. After all, it’s nothing new.

I remember right after 9/11 when the columnist Charles Krauthammer, now one of the most vocal anti-Muslim demagogues, almost literally flipped out in my Chevy Chase, Maryland synagogue when the rabbi said something about the importance of not associating the terrorist attacks with Muslims in general.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-23   22:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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