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Title: Bachmann Stands By Claims That ‘Founding Fathers’ Ended Slavery
Source: RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2 ... ounding-fathers-ended-slavery/
Published: Jun 28, 2011
Author: Kase Wickman
Post Date: 2011-06-28 11:29:07 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 58261
Comments: 108

Rep. Michele Bachmann, who officially announced yesterday in Iowa that she is running for president, appeared on “Good Morning America” Monday, where George Stephanopoulos attempted to clarify some of her previous statements.

Among them: Bachmann’s claim that “the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence worked tirelessly to end slavery.”

“Now with respect, Congresswoman, that’s just not true,” Stephanopoulos said. “Many of them including Jefferson and Washington were actually slave holders and slavery didn’t end until the Civil War.”

Bachmann dodged the question, answering, “Well, you know what’s marvelous is that in this country and under our Constitution, we have the ability when we recognize that something is wrong to change it. And that’s what we did in our country. We changed it. We no longer have slavery. That’s a good thing. And what our Constitution has done for our nation, is to give us the basis of freedom unparalleled in the rest of the world.”

She goes on to claim that John Quincy Adams, who was a small boy during the Revolutionary War and did indeed eventually work to abolish slavery, should be counted as a “Founding Father.”

Watch the visibly distraught Stephanopoulos’ interview with the tea party candidate, in which she discusses the minimum wage, Sarah Palin and her foster children.

Originally aired June 28, 2011. Embedded courtesy ABC.

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#68. To: Badeye (#62) (Edited)

The wee one's ego simply can't fathom ANYONE putting him on the filter and not responding.

Number of Full and/or Introductory members who have bozo'd you: 0

One of us is a liar....the other one of us is Boofer.

Love,
The Wee One...

[snicker]

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

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war  posted on  2011-06-28   20:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Badeye (#62)

The wee one's ego simply can't fathom ANYONE putting him on the filter and not responding.

No, but Dickie will hide behind the bozo, along with his finger puppets when the heat gets turned up. He's a gutless turd.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-28   20:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Brian S (#0)

In 500 years White people freed the slaves, explored the earth, went to the moon, and invented 99.997% of everything.

Because of White people slaves are freed. Because of White people everyone can live better than a King could 100 years ago. The Commies and Green pukes like your friends war and skivvy hate that fact. All they have to show for their efforts are mountains of skulls in Cambodia and over 100 million murdered in the name of egalitarianism.

The world is jealous of and hates the White minority that succeeded in 500 years where they failed for a hundred thousand years.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-28   20:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: war (#12)

And replace him with what Boof? Reps and Senators and a POTUS who believe that the reason that people are unemployed is because their own fault? Reps and Sens and a POTUS who will cut their benefits? Their access to heath care? Demand that they contribute more to pensions and health care while vetoing a modest tax increase on millionaires?

Do you really believe that the electorate, when all is said and done, is going to elect people who have been blaming them for their own problems and, as a reward for so voting, will gut any safety net that they may have?

well said, and that's why Obama continues to match up well against any potential GOP challenger.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-06-28   21:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: war (#67)

Now that I've given you the factual

"Factual" may be in your limited vocabulary, but it's certainly not something you concern yourself with, in any consistent way.

Palin was right. This is confirmed.

You're wrong. This, too, is confirmed (on a daily basis).

Now why don't you go home, kick the dog, and rue your wife leaving you.

Loser.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-28   23:46:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Capitalist Eric (#72)

Now why don't you go home, kick the dog, and rue your wife leaving you.

Loser.

Yet here you are again in California after vowing to never come back.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-28   23:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Rudgear (#70)

Because of White people everyone can live better than a King could 100 years ago.

Just this evening my servants prepared an excellent meal for my guests and I.

The world is jealous of and hates the White minority that succeeded in 500 years where they failed for a hundred thousand years.

The people of China and India would disagree with you. From the 1st to the 17th centuries, India had the world's largest economy.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-29   3:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: lucysmom (#74)

From the 1st to the 17th centuries, India had the world's largest economy.

What happened?

socalv8  posted on  2011-06-29   3:43:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Capitalist Eric (#72) (Edited)

Palin was right. This is confirmed.

Maybe if you had put it in bold, capitl letters and a "10" font, then I'd believe you.

[snicker]

Instead, I'll rely on the contemporary accounts of Prescott, Dawes, Larkin et al.

Here's more fodder for you...most people today know that the British were moving in on Concord to destroy an armory where they believed that the cannons that had protected Boston Harbor and the Charles River had been moved to. But on the night of 18 April 1775, the fear of the "Sons of Liberty" and associative "Committee[s] For Safety" feared that the British were after something else. That was the purpose of Revere's "ride".

What was that fear?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-29   7:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: socalv8 (#75) (Edited)

The "New World" became the "Third World" of its day and was easily exploited...and...to make it even better, the British and French populated the New World with consumers.

Prior to Capitalists, the "evil doers" of that day were the Mercantilists...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-29   7:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: CZ82 (#60)

I thought you were independently wealthy and didn't have a job?????

I still support the workers rising up and killing your masters.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-29   10:32:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: war (#76) (Edited)

I can Palin-esque up history as well as she can. For example, the "Sons of Liberty" were a terrorist organization that carried out a false flag operation dressed as Indians at Boston harbor.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-29   10:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Rudgear (#69)

Yep, and he apparently has a problem keeping a job, unlike those he's fixated on lol.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-29   10:34:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Rudgear, Badeye (#70)

In 500 years White people freed the slaves, explored the earth, went to the moon, and invented 99.997% of everything.

You mean the white people of the earth freed the slaves they themselves enslaved? And since Italians and Jews and Germans were not considered "white" by the Founding Fathers (Benjamin Franklin viewed Germans as "swarthy" compared to Anglos) you have to not count their inventions or the inventions of the Chinese on which other inventions are based on.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-29   10:38:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Badeye (#80)

Speaking of the impetuously fixated...who's worse...you or Rudy The Bozo?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-29   10:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Godwinson (#79) (Edited)

I find it absolutely incredible that people are not only apologizing for her but claiming that she was correct.

Then I see who is doing it and it becomes not so incredible...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-29   10:40:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: socalv8 (#75)

What happened?

Wars and colonialism.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-29   10:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: war (#83)

I find it absolutely incredible that people are not only apologizing for her but claiming that she was correct.

I saw the same thing with Bush fans (so called Bushbots) bending of reality to try and excuse Bush errors.

I don't get how a party that is supposed to be a collection of independent thinkers becomes a party of idol worshippers. It is like they look for a leader to fawn over.

And it is ideological over practical - what I mean is they will support an incompetent as long as the person spouts party dogma. In fact, they look at competency as a negative - because I imagine a fact based person would not accept their ideological dream world.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-29   11:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Godwinson (#81)

You mean the white people of the earth freed the slaves they themselves enslaved?

History isn't exactly your strong suit, is it Godwincing?

rotflmao.

The historical fact is those who did the 'enslaving' were also African, those who led the way in slave trading were Dutch.

Don't be afraid of history is lesson.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-29   11:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Godwinson (#85)

I saw the same thing with Bush fans (so called Bushbots) bending of reality to try and excuse Bush errors.

We see the same thing with Owe-bama fans (so called Messiah Worshipers) bending reality to try and excuse Owe-bama errors that occur daily in the 'here and now'.

And when called on it, they blame...wait for it...wait for it...BUSH.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-29   11:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: war (#83)

I find it absolutely incredible that people are not only apologizing for her but claiming that she was correct.

That's because you're a moron.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-29   11:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Badeye (#86)

... those who led the way in slave trading were Dutch.

The Dutch aren't white?

BTW, Semitic people had 0 problem selling each other into slavery...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-29   11:38:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Capitalist Eric (#88) (Edited)

That's because you're a moron.

Oh...no worries...as I said, I shall no longer find it incredible...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-29   11:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Godwinson (#85)

becomes a party of idol worshippers.

Hope/Change/Hypocrite

socalv8  posted on  2011-06-30   10:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: war, Rudgear (#89)

Rudgear = Because of White people slaves are freed.

Rudgear, you are arguing that the whites are racially superior for freeing slaves that were enslaved to the white man on the grounds of their racial inferiority.....

We just saw rud;s racism justified through whites "freeing slaves" who were enslaved for racist reasons in the first place.

I guess the Southern slave supporting Whites were the racially inferior whites of the white family tree.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-30   11:03:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Godwinson (#92)

I have Rudy on bozo...which means that I could give a shit what he's thinking...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   11:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Godwinson (#92) (Edited)

No, I'm arguing fact, Destro. Unpleasant to you and your kind of socialist, but fact nevertheless.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-30   11:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Rudgear (#94)

White racial superiority ended a slave system white racial superiority created. Classic.....

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-30   11:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Godwinson (#95)

Give me your alternative history, Destro. Who did?

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-30   11:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: war (#93)

I have Rudy on bozo...

I think he loves you.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-30   11:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Fred Mertz (#97)

He moved from the Bay Area to OK where they have only steers and queers...

Does he have horns?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   11:44:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Fred Mertz (#97)

No, I love heckling a coward too ill equipped to respond he has to hide to avoid people. Go and inform him of my comment.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-30   11:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Rudgear (#99)

No, I love heckling a coward too ill equipped to respond he has to hide to avoid people. Go and inform him of my comment.

Do you have horns?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-30   11:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Rudgear (#96)

Give me your alternative history, Destro. Who did?

The black slaves that rose up and hacked white slavers to death.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-30   11:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Capitalist Eric (#72) (Edited)

Here's more fodder for you...most people today know that the British were moving in on Concord to destroy an armory where they believed that the cannons that had protected Boston Harbor and the Charles River had been moved to. But on the night of 18 April 1775, the fear of the "Sons of Liberty" and associative "Committee[s] For Safety" feared that the British were after something else. That was the purpose of Revere's "ride".

What was that fear?

Since you obviously do not know. Massachusetts had set up a Provincial Congress in defiance of the Massachusetts Government Act [which was one of the so- called "intolerable Acts"]. The fear was that after having observed the movement of British patrols that they were looking to arrest the leaders of that Congress...Revere rode off to warn Hancock and Sam Adams, who were staying in the house of Jonas Clarke and along the way decided to alarm the houses along the trail.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   11:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Godwinson (#101)

No, Destro. As usual you are wrong. They did not end the institution of slavery. If you can't debate beyond bombast, there is no point in dealing with you.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-30   12:01:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Fred Mertz (#100)

Do you have horns?

Do you? You enjoy twisting truth and people's comments like him, though.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-30   12:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Rudgear (#103)

They did not end the institution of slavery.

They did on Haiti. Once that happened the Brits then ended the slave trade out of necessity.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-30   12:16:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Godwinson (#105)

He drove the French out. He didn't end the institution. Keep trying, Destro.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-30   12:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: war (#102)

Since you obviously do not know. Massachusetts had set

Oh, I didn't know you posted something of value, for me to respond to...

You're very easy to overlook, given your proclivity for pettifoggery.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   12:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Capitalist Eric (#107)

#18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   12:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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